Lancer wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 15:30:19 -0500 (EST),
(Twistedhed) wrote:

Lancer@web said:
No really, you would think since we are so

close to the coast that seafood would be

cheap here. The only thing that is cheap is

catfish, or tilapia (grass carp). I prefer crappies
or sunfish, or even bass if its done right.


No doubt. The grouper are being caught daily, and plenty of
them,,,inshore and out, but the damn restaurants are raping the
tourists, now that the season is in full swing. Plenty of charters
selling out and new blood taking their place....oldtimers are going out
once a day instead of twice and making more than they ever did,
by.......selling to the restaurants. Even the restaurants with their own
boats can't keep up with the demand right now.

Yeah, same thing going on in the stores around here. Demand for fresh
seafood is high around this area, so the stores pretty much charge
what they want. The only real good deals you get are if you meet the
shrimp boats when they come in and buy right off the boat.

Well you wouldn't want to buy fresh Walleye here then. It goes
for about $10/pound, here on the south shore of Erie.

Commercial fishing for Walleye is illegal in the USA. The fish
you might find at the market come out of Canada. Those assholes
rape the lake with friggin 4 inch gill nets. If you take a boat
ride from the south side of the lake to the north (Ohio to Canada),
it's
-real- easy to tell when you've arrived in Canadian waters.

Nets are everywhere between thaw and ice up. That and the Zebra
Mussel have made more than a few charter captains go out of
business in the last 5 or so years.

On 16 Jan 2004 13:26:15 GMT, Steveo
wrote:

Lancer wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 15:30:19 -0500 (EST),
(Twistedhed) wrote:

Lancer@web said:
No really, you would think since we are so

close to the coast that seafood would be

cheap here. The only thing that is cheap is

catfish, or tilapia (grass carp). I prefer crappies
or sunfish, or even bass if its done right.


No doubt. The grouper are being caught daily, and plenty of
them,,,inshore and out, but the damn restaurants are raping the
tourists, now that the season is in full swing. Plenty of charters
selling out and new blood taking their place....oldtimers are going out
once a day instead of twice and making more than they ever did,
by.......selling to the restaurants. Even the restaurants with their own
boats can't keep up with the demand right now.

Yeah, same thing going on in the stores around here. Demand for fresh
seafood is high around this area, so the stores pretty much charge
what they want. The only real good deals you get are if you meet the
shrimp boats when they come in and buy right off the boat.

Well you wouldn't want to buy fresh Walleye here then. It goes
for about $10/pound, here on the south shore of Erie.

Commercial fishing for Walleye is illegal in the USA. The fish
you might find at the market come out of Canada. Those assholes
rape the lake with friggin 4 inch gill nets. If you take a boat
ride from the south side of the lake to the north (Ohio to Canada),
it's
-real- easy to tell when you've arrived in Canadian waters.

Nets are everywhere between thaw and ice up. That and the Zebra
Mussel have made more than a few charter captains go out of
business in the last 5 or so years.

$10.00 for any decent fish is pretty much the norm here. They
want to import all their fish from New Zealand and Australia rather
than sell gulf fish. You can't find amber jack, snapper, but all
kinds of imported white roughy.

I didn't think that the U.S. allowed game fish to be imported. I
thought the Walleye and others that were sold were farm raised?

Lancer wrote:
On 16 Jan 2004 13:26:15 GMT, Steveo
wrote:

Lancer wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 15:30:19 -0500 (EST),
(Twistedhed) wrote:

Lancer@web said:
No really, you would think since we are so

close to the coast that seafood would be

cheap here. The only thing that is cheap is

catfish, or tilapia (grass carp). I prefer crappies
or sunfish, or even bass if its done right.


No doubt. The grouper are being caught daily, and plenty of
them,,,inshore and out, but the damn restaurants are raping the
tourists, now that the season is in full swing. Plenty of charters
selling out and new blood taking their place....oldtimers are going
out once a day instead of twice and making more than they ever did,
by.......selling to the restaurants. Even the restaurants with their
own boats can't keep up with the demand right now.

Yeah, same thing going on in the stores around here. Demand for fresh
seafood is high around this area, so the stores pretty much charge
what they want. The only real good deals you get are if you meet the
shrimp boats when they come in and buy right off the boat.

Well you wouldn't want to buy fresh Walleye here then. It goes
for about $10/pound, here on the south shore of Erie.

Commercial fishing for Walleye is illegal in the USA. The fish
you might find at the market come out of Canada. Those assholes
rape the lake with friggin 4 inch gill nets. If you take a boat
ride from the south side of the lake to the north (Ohio to Canada),
it's
-real- easy to tell when you've arrived in Canadian waters.

Nets are everywhere between thaw and ice up. That and the Zebra
Mussel have made more than a few charter captains go out of
business in the last 5 or so years.

$10.00 for any decent fish is pretty much the norm here. They
want to import all their fish from New Zealand and Australia rather
than sell gulf fish. You can't find amber jack, snapper, but all
kinds of imported white roughy.

I didn't think that the U.S. allowed game fish to be imported. I
thought the Walleye and others that were sold were farm raised?

That's catfish, retail Lake Erie Walleye come from Canada. It's
even illegal to sell Walleye that you catch on a line in the US.

I hope it stays that way too!

"Steveo" wrote in message
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Lancer wrote:
On 16 Jan 2004 13:26:15 GMT, Steveo moparholic@hotmail-
Lancer@web said:

I didn't think that the U.S. allowed game fish to be imported. I
thought the Walleye and others that were sold were farm raised?

That's catfish, retail Lake Erie Walleye come from Canada. It's
even illegal to sell Walleye that you catch on a line in the US.

I hope it stays that way too!

Man they farm raise all sorts fish
now a days.

Landshark


--
Real heroes are men who fall and fail
and are flawed, but win out in the end
because they've stayed true to their
ideals and beliefs and commitments.

On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 14:45:04 GMT, "Landshark"
wrote:


"Steveo" wrote in message
...
Lancer wrote:
On 16 Jan 2004 13:26:15 GMT, Steveo moparholic@hotmail-
Lancer@web said:

I didn't think that the U.S. allowed game fish to be imported. I
thought the Walleye and others that were sold were farm raised?

That's catfish, retail Lake Erie Walleye come from Canada. It's
even illegal to sell Walleye that you catch on a line in the US.

I hope it stays that way too!

Man they farm raise all sorts fish
now a days.

Landshark

Best one I have seen are the sea turtle farms in the Caymans. Ever
have a turtle burger?

Lancer wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 14:45:04 GMT, "Landshark"
wrote:


"Steveo" wrote in message
...
Lancer wrote:
On 16 Jan 2004 13:26:15 GMT, Steveo moparholic@hotmail-
Lancer@web said:

I didn't think that the U.S. allowed game fish to be imported.
I thought the Walleye and others that were sold were farm raised?

That's catfish, retail Lake Erie Walleye come from Canada. It's
even illegal to sell Walleye that you catch on a line in the US.

I hope it stays that way too!

Man they farm raise all sorts fish
now a days.

Landshark

Best one I have seen are the sea turtle farms in the Caymans. Ever
have a turtle burger?

My buddy puts on a turtle fry. Those hard shelled *******s
have 5 different tasting meats in them. His wife cooks most
of it like city chicken.

I don't like the 'cleansing' process. He puts them in a rubber
garbage can for a week with no water or food, claims it 'cleans
them out from the earthy taste.

I told him thats friggin cruel. I still eat it tho.

Lancer@webrock wrote:
Yeah, same thing going on in the stores

around here. Demand for fresh seafood is

high around this area, so the stores pretty

much charge what they want. The only real

good deals you get are if you meet the shrimp

boats when they come in and buy right off the

boat.





If boats are selling seafood without the proper licensing here and they
get popped, chances are high you won't be seeing the owner on that
vessel again. They really cracked down on this over the years. The real
money has been curtailed. Not only does a moratorium exist, but several
years waiting list to attain certain commercial licensing permits for
when they DO start reissuing such permits,,,such as Blue Crab. Some of
the oldtimers were grandfathered..: )

From: (Steveo)
Lancer wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 14:45:04 GMT, "Landshark"
wrote:
"Steveo" wrote in message
...
Lancer wrote:
On 16 Jan 2004 13:26:15 GMT, Steveo moparholic@hotmail-
Lancer@web said:
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0I didn't think that the U.S. allowed game
fish to be imported. I thought the Walleye and others that were sold
were farm raised?
_
That's catfish, retail Lake Erie Walleye come from Canada. It's even
illegal to sell Walleye that you catch on a line in the US.
I hope it stays that way too!


=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Ma n they farm raise all
sorts fish
now a days.
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0La ndshark
_
(Best one I have seen are the sea turtle farms in the Caymans. Ever have
a turtle burger?)

_
My buddy puts on a turtle fry. Those hard

shelled *******s have 5 different tasting

meats in them. His wife cooks most of it like

city chicken.

I don't like the 'cleansing' process. He puts

them in a rubber garbage can for a week with

no water or food, claims it 'cleans them out

from the earthy taste.

I told him thats friggin cruel. I still eat it tho.




Two things in this world that taste more like fish than fish..gator and
turtle. Reptilian dishes can be dashed a bit with some cajun
cookin'..but I'll stick with a good white fish and things that have
gills.

On 16 Jan 2004 15:32:58 GMT, Steveo
wrote:

Lancer wrote:
On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 14:45:04 GMT, "Landshark"
wrote:


"Steveo" wrote in message
...
Lancer wrote:
On 16 Jan 2004 13:26:15 GMT, Steveo moparholic@hotmail-
Lancer@web said:

I didn't think that the U.S. allowed game fish to be imported.
I thought the Walleye and others that were sold were farm raised?

That's catfish, retail Lake Erie Walleye come from Canada. It's
even illegal to sell Walleye that you catch on a line in the US.

I hope it stays that way too!

Man they farm raise all sorts fish
now a days.

Landshark

Best one I have seen are the sea turtle farms in the Caymans. Ever
have a turtle burger?

My buddy puts on a turtle fry. Those hard shelled *******s
have 5 different tasting meats in them. His wife cooks most
of it like city chicken.

I don't like the 'cleansing' process. He puts them in a rubber
garbage can for a week with no water or food, claims it 'cleans
them out from the earthy taste.

I told him thats friggin cruel. I still eat it tho.

Never heard of doing that, I know people that feed them corn meal to
help clean them out. They sure are good eating.

On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 10:57:54 -0500 (EST),
(Twistedhed) wrote:

Lancer@webrock wrote:
Yeah, same thing going on in the stores

around here. Demand for fresh seafood is

high around this area, so the stores pretty

much charge what they want. The only real

good deals you get are if you meet the shrimp

boats when they come in and buy right off the

boat.





If boats are selling seafood without the proper licensing here and they
get popped, chances are high you won't be seeing the owner on that
vessel again. They really cracked down on this over the years. The real
money has been curtailed. Not only does a moratorium exist, but several
years waiting list to attain certain commercial licensing permits for
when they DO start reissuing such permits,,,such as Blue Crab. Some of
the oldtimers were grandfathered..: )

I'm not sure what kind of permits they need, but if you walk along the
piers in Galveston there is a long line of boats selling fresh shrimp.
They even sell them from roadside vans, kind of like the ice cream
trucks that I remember as a kid.