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Old March 30th 04, 10:32 PM
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With the antenna shortened all the way, my SWR is 2.5 on channel 12 which is
the channel I will be using the most. I'm not sure if I should just leave it
alone, or if there is something else I can do to get a better reading. I
suppose I could replace the Radio Shack feedline I used.

I'm sure my power and grounds are good as I have no engine noise. I've heard
a lot of people with Jeep Wranglers have engine noise issues.

Any other comments or advice would be greatly appreciated.

Rob Kulp


"Rob" wrote in message
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I hate to admit it, but the meter was hooked up backwards.
Thank you for the help.

On another note, on channel 1 my SWR is 2 and on channel 40 it's 3. The
antenna is a 48" Fiberglass whip from Radio Shack and is adjustable. I'm
guessing that I need to shorten the antenna?

Thanks again,

Rob Kulp

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
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On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 01:07:55 GMT, "Rob" wrote:

I installed a CB in my Jeep Rubicon for use when my buddies and I go

trail
riding. I mounted a *ahem* 48" Radio Shack fiberglass whip on a right

angle
antenna mount directly to the rear bumper. I ran a 20' Radio Shack 50

ohm
cable from the antenna to the transmitter mounted under the seat (Cobra

75
WX ST).
Power is supplied by a 4 ga. wire directly from the battery. I scraped

off
paint under one of the seat mounting brackets and bolted the wire to

that
to
get a good ground.

The problem I'm having is calibrating the SWR meter. When key and hold

down
the mic, I turn the meter's calibration knob all the way to the right

and
the needle is still short of the calibration mark.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


If an SWR meter will not calibrate, there are 3 common reasons for
this (and a whole list of uncommon ones).
The first is an obvious lack of transmitter power. If your radio isn't
putting out at least a watt or 2, chances are you won't be able to
calibrate the meter.

The second is a radical fault in the antenna/feedline system. If the
cable or antenna mount is shorted, it can prevent the meter from
calibrating. One way to check this is to switch to the SWR position.
If the meter stays at the same point, you have a short.

The third common reason is a simple one. Is the meter hooked up
backwards? If you reverse the input and output connections, the meter
will not work properly, and you are actually trying to calibrate on
the reflected power (Which should be low). Again, a check for this
would be to switch to the SWR position. If the meter now pegs hard,
chances are you have it backwards.

Oh, and I just thought of a 4th reason. Are you sure you're on the
calibrate position?

Dave
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Old March 30th 04, 11:12 PM
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Not 2.5, but 3.5.

Rob

"Rob" wrote in message
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With the antenna shortened all the way, my SWR is 2.5 on channel 12 which

is
the channel I will be using the most. I'm not sure if I should just leave

it
alone, or if there is something else I can do to get a better reading. I
suppose I could replace the Radio Shack feedline I used.

I'm sure my power and grounds are good as I have no engine noise. I've

heard
a lot of people with Jeep Wranglers have engine noise issues.

Any other comments or advice would be greatly appreciated.

Rob Kulp


"Rob" wrote in message
news
I hate to admit it, but the meter was hooked up backwards.
Thank you for the help.

On another note, on channel 1 my SWR is 2 and on channel 40 it's 3. The
antenna is a 48" Fiberglass whip from Radio Shack and is adjustable. I'm
guessing that I need to shorten the antenna?

Thanks again,

Rob Kulp

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 30 Mar 2004 01:07:55 GMT, "Rob" wrote:

I installed a CB in my Jeep Rubicon for use when my buddies and I go

trail
riding. I mounted a *ahem* 48" Radio Shack fiberglass whip on a right

angle
antenna mount directly to the rear bumper. I ran a 20' Radio Shack 50

ohm
cable from the antenna to the transmitter mounted under the seat

(Cobra
75
WX ST).
Power is supplied by a 4 ga. wire directly from the battery. I

scraped
off
paint under one of the seat mounting brackets and bolted the wire to

that
to
get a good ground.

The problem I'm having is calibrating the SWR meter. When key and

hold
down
the mic, I turn the meter's calibration knob all the way to the right

and
the needle is still short of the calibration mark.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

If an SWR meter will not calibrate, there are 3 common reasons for
this (and a whole list of uncommon ones).
The first is an obvious lack of transmitter power. If your radio isn't
putting out at least a watt or 2, chances are you won't be able to
calibrate the meter.

The second is a radical fault in the antenna/feedline system. If the
cable or antenna mount is shorted, it can prevent the meter from
calibrating. One way to check this is to switch to the SWR position.
If the meter stays at the same point, you have a short.

The third common reason is a simple one. Is the meter hooked up
backwards? If you reverse the input and output connections, the meter
will not work properly, and you are actually trying to calibrate on
the reflected power (Which should be low). Again, a check for this
would be to switch to the SWR position. If the meter now pegs hard,
chances are you have it backwards.

Oh, and I just thought of a 4th reason. Are you sure you're on the
calibrate position?

Dave
"Sandbagger"
http://home.ptd.net/~n3cvj










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Old March 30th 04, 11:51 PM
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Try ignoring the cal function on the meter for a minute and just flip
through all your channels 1-40. At some point in the middle, you should hit
a low. If it's lowest point is on channel 1, your antenna is tuned to a
channel lower than 1. You need to shorten it. Many people will argue how low
it has to be but 1.5:1 or lower should be fine. There is one thing to keep
in mind. You said the antenna is bumper mounted. This can create problems
because alot of the vehicle (the antenna's ground plane) is beside the
antenna instead of under it. This is not to say that you can't get decent
performance with a 4 ft. bumper mounted but it depends on the vehicle and
the antenna. You may want to try a 6 ft. whip later.

Chris



I installed a CB in my Jeep Rubicon for use when my buddies and I go trail
riding. I mounted a *ahem* 48" Radio Shack fiberglass whip on a right

angle
antenna mount directly to the rear bumper. I ran a 20' Radio Shack 50 ohm
cable from the antenna to the transmitter mounted under the seat (Cobra 75
WX ST).
Power is supplied by a 4 ga. wire directly from the battery. I scraped off
paint under one of the seat mounting brackets and bolted the wire to that

to
get a good ground.

The problem I'm having is calibrating the SWR meter. When key and hold

down
the mic, I turn the meter's calibration knob all the way to the right and
the needle is still short of the calibration mark.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Rob Kulp




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Old March 31st 04, 12:49 AM
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"Rob" wrote:
With the antenna shortened all the way, my SWR is 2.5 on channel 12 which
is the channel I will be using the most.

What was your swr on channel 40?
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Old March 31st 04, 04:38 AM
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Has anyone trimmed the whip on it? Is it a new cb antenna?

"Rob" wrote:
Thanks.

I'll see what I can do to improve those 2 things. I'll make it longer and
I'm going to go ahead and change to a better quality coax.

Robert Kulp

"Steveo" wrote in message
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Your antenna is too short, or something is shorted in it,
or the coax.



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Old March 31st 04, 05:32 AM
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Steveo wrote:
Your antenna is too short, or something is shorted in it,
or the coax.


Sun spots.

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Old March 31st 04, 05:44 AM
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"Steveo" wrote in message
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Damn, I always get that backwards.

"Chris" wrote:
No, it's too long.


Duh!!!!!!


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Old March 31st 04, 06:19 AM
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"Landshark" wrote in message
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"Steveo" wrote in message
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Damn, I always get that backwards.

"Chris" wrote:
No, it's too long.


Duh!!!!!!


Landshark


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OOPppps, meant Doah!!!! Not Duh!

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Old March 31st 04, 12:31 PM
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It's a new adjustable 48" fiberglass antenna from Radio Shack.

Rob

"Steveo" wrote in message
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Has anyone trimmed the whip on it? Is it a new cb antenna?

"Rob" wrote:
Thanks.

I'll see what I can do to improve those 2 things. I'll make it longer

and
I'm going to go ahead and change to a better quality coax.

Robert Kulp

"Steveo" wrote in message
...
Your antenna is too short, or something is shorted in it,
or the coax.




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Old March 31st 04, 12:46 PM
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On 31 Mar 2004 03:29:50 GMT, Steveo
wrote:

Your antenna is too short, or something is shorted in it,
or the coax.

"Rob" wrote:
That is after it is hooked up properly.

I have no problem calibrating now. The SWR readings are 2.5 on channel 1
and about 3.8 on channel 40.

Channel 12 was 3.5, not the 2.5 I had previously posted.



If the SWR is HIGHER on channel 40 than it is on channel 1, then the
antenna is TOO LONG.

Placement of the antenna is important too. I've seen guys with Jeep
setups who mount the whip to one of the "bumpers" within inches of the
vehicle body. This is not the smartest thing to do, and it will likely
affect the SWR.

Adjusting a fiberglass whip is a tricky operation. You can't
practically lengthen it, and if you cut it, and it doesn't help,
you've ruined an antenna.

Dave
"Sandbagger"
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