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From: (Dave*Hall)
On Thu, 27 May 2004 12:57:07 -0400,
(Tampa Bay Always Kicks Philthy Azz) wrote:
From: (Dave*Hall)
On Wed, 26 May 2004 13:20:02 -0400,
(Tampa Bay Always Kicks Philthy Azz) wrote: It has come to my attention
that all the manias you toss about as insult are the ones from which you
more than likely suffer. You typify theclassic projectionist and search
for more insults as you angrily post along,,,,,,,. It all makes sense
when taken into consideration all but the most supervised of visits were
taken from you involving your child.

Projecting?

Certainly.The angrier you get, the more insults you post as you go
along.

Who's angry?


If you;re not angry, then you have even more character flaws than you
have projected,,,insult for no reason is something that should be looked
into by a professional,


A professional journalist?
_
Other than you that is....... You project that
anger on me, and then accuse me of doing it.
*



LOL,,,,that's pretty good, but all the OT insults begin with yourself.
*YOU went off-topic and began ranting about mememememe as opposed to
the FCC rule you were unable to debate absent of insult and off-topics

You certainly are self absorbed aren't you?


Isn't about me, Davie, even though you stress at every failed attempt to
make all your posts about me.


You think this is all about you?


All your p[osts go off topic and become one of mememem.

What's the matter, didn't mommy give you the
attention you craved as a child, which you now
demand from this newsgroup instead?
_

He still demands his mommy's attention but she is too busy working to
support his unemployed ass.


Aww,Davie,,Kim hasn't been informed of your actions, yet?

,,,,lol,,you are the one with a deficit in communications,

The more you say it (And you're up to
practically every post now) the less it means
to anyone other than yourself.


YOU went off-topic and entered insults to this thread. I'm not the one
selectively editing the thread and posts to create an illusion of
righteousness for myself..*you are*..

At least it is easy to recognize as an illusion.

..I'm not the one with issues of
low self-worth and self-esteem, coupled with self-hatred and projection
of personal issues.....*you* are.

Who's the one obsessing now?


You are Davie,,,all your posts are off-topic and of a personal nature
because you laughingly failed to produce anything to back any of your
bul**** claims.


More projecting. Your defining characteristic is to pull a thread
off-topic in order to avoid proving your claims then blame someone
else for your inadequacies.


The fact that you ASSumed the FCC holds a roger beep
illegal is more professed ignorance. You apparently

Nothing is apparent in your world of obfuscations. Noises that are
intended to entertain and amuse are indeed illegal.

were corrected by
one who took pity on your ignorant rants, so instead of admitting you
were wrong, you do what you always do,,,run offtopic and attack the
person that illustrtated you are wrong and unable to produce anything
that bakcs your bul****.

More projection.


You have failed to become educated on how to debate a topic and attack
the topic as opposed to attacking the person,

A practice which you continue to prove yourself incompetent at, as
each time the attack on the topic is held firm you run for the hills.


,a deficit in
communications,

For you it's a deficit in attention. You can't stay focused on one
issue long enough to resolve it, especially when irrefutable proof is
provided by the other person.

no matter how much it pains you to be forced to see
yourself as the masses do.

Yep, I'm your
worst nightmare.....


Coupled with your assumed status and hallucinatory position of power
over cbers and otehr hammies by virtue of your ignorance, such a
statement is worth permmitting you to believe.
_
Which is why you snip the posts....you always distort truth,,,coupled
with outright lying and attempting to project a post out of context as a
manner in which it was not originally presented....you're a malicious
lowlife, Davie.

At least he doesn't misquote well-respected dead people.
_
Funny, I was just following your example of
posting style.



You;re lying, Davie, I don't selectively snip posts unless initiated.

True, and you initiated the practice yourself.


Trying to convince anyone otherwise is only telegraphing the strings to
which you are attached. Once again, blaming another for your behavior is
a character flaw.


Your character flaws are easily attributable to your parent's failure
to teach you basic standards of moral hygiene and civil behavior.
_
Don't like it when your own rules and tactics
are employed against you eh? As they say in
my parts, "What's good for the goose......"



Agreed,,,and doing such has you so far off-topic and beside yourself
that you are unable to foucs on anything but myself,
_
If such would aid in your supervised-only visits with your daughter and
assist in maintaining a civil relationship with her mother instead of
one of hostility with all you come in to contact, I say go for it.

So now who's the one projecting?
_
The answer is patently obvious even to the most casual observer. But
the participant is not a casual observer.


You are. *You* brought up your off-topic, obsession fancying yourself
somehow qualified to judge another merely by what they permit you in a
post.

Ok then, which are you? a liar or a mental
case?


Merely one that illustrates your communication problems, Davie. Your
personal problems are illustrated quite effectively by yourself.


Either you are what you project, in which case
it makes you a sociopath, or you faked the
whole "cartoon character" persona,
_
It's not a persona, it's his real personality. He's a real-life
cartoon character!

which
makes you an accomplished actor and a liar.
So which is it?
*

You stil are inable to grasp the larger picture here. What I am or do is
of no concern to you, but somehow, you made me your world.

Well, your ego is as big as a planet....

*Number one, such illustrates your need for status to the point of
creating it for yourself.

I've created nothing. You're trying to assign it
to me.



LOL,,,I do nothing of the sort,,,you have positioned yourself on many
occasion as an authorative with grandiose delusions somehow qualified to
judge others based on what they allow you. Blaming me has always been
your worse nightmare.
_
sign of a low self-esteem and one not
satsified with their personal life and
accomplishments,

Accomplishments such as being a professional journalist, beating your
dogs, stealing homes from little old ladies, espousing the virtues of
violating federal laws? Or being a burden on society by leeching off
the state welfare system and your poor old mother?
_
You speak as if you've had extensive
experience in those areas.

He has.

Five years of watching you come apart at the seams in usenet and blame
everything from society to cb to myslef for your personal woes.

_
this gives way
to your behavior that demands the need for insulting
others,,"projection".

Funny, the same thing neatly applies to you.


But davie,,you are the one continually going off topic and making each
and every post personl, not I, so no, it applies to you, not I.

You are merely the flip side of the same coin
that you accuse others of being.




Oh, I most certainly admitted that I give back what is received very
well. It most definitely is circular, but the fecal prouction always
originates with your posts.

Pluck the excrement from thine own eye.

_
**Number two, it illlustrates your self-hatred and dis-satisfaction
with your personal self and a bruised ego, as the need for insulting
another merely for their opinions and views is highly indicative of a
character flaw AND low self-esteem.

It would be if it were true.


LOL...you are the only one in this group incapable of seeing yourself as
others do. Denial that you begin hurling insults and running off topic
is but a small portion of your woes.

You should leave the diagnosis to me.
_
Or even better, leave it to the invisible shrink.


(snicker),,,,Oh, but I do permit you to elevate yourself every now and
then to an imagined position of status you need so very badly...it is
what reminds the rest of the world of radio all that is broken among bad
hammies and their callous behavior and need for something more in their
long list of non-accomplisments.

You fall far short of the mark in that area.


**I must grin,,,,,, you attempted to give the impression you did not
inquire of such by selectively editing your inquiry in your orginal post
and leaving only my reply to your inquiry.


Unlike you, I am not self absorbed and
interested in reading my own words, high
fiving myself, and adding to the length of
posts. I comment on the relevant (And I use
the term loosely) points and discard the rest.



Your off-topic rants are not relevant. That you asked if I enjoy myself,
then when replied to, snipped your inquiry to give the impression you
never inquired of such, is not "relevant" but a deliberate, malicious
action, based on your latter comment concerning the reply...LOL....you
reduce yourself at my merest whim.


Perhaps that comes from the old days on
dial-up BBS'es when bandwidth cost money,
and we all leaned more toward brevity.
_
At least we could all focus on the issues of a topic instead of
obfuscating them into rants about communication deficits.

Davie,,it's what makes you
a lid and a detriment to hammie radio. You're part of what is strangling
the hobby.

Care to elaborate on just what is "strangling"
the ham radio hobby? A hobby you have thus
far rejected and claimed to have little to no
interest in?

Sure,,I could elaborate, but you have proved you cant follow a topic.

Pre-emptive excuse.

You can always attempt to redeem yourself,,,begin with quoting where the
FCC holds a roger beep as illegal and the passage where you claim they
hold a roger beep as a device of "amusement".

Because that's what it is usually considered to be.


Addressing your latter comment, I have never claimed I have no interest
in hammie radio,

That's why you whine about no-codes and presume anyone that criticizes
your trolling must be a hammie. Ok, sure, whatever.

but all can understand by now your incredible failed
attempts at attributing such lies to another.Yes, Davie,,you have world
of problems.


So now you want us to believe that you are
some sort of subject matter expert on the
dynamics of the ham radio hobby?


LOL,,that's almost as entertaining as you redundantly self-professing
status as some sort of expert on sociology qualified to "diagnose" based
only what you are permitted...hehehe.

More projecting.


You are a problem operator mostly for certain,

Now there's a perfect example of a failed attempt by someone with a
communication deficit to sound intelligent..."mostly for certain".


as it is a great
probability that most act on the air in the manner they conduct
themselves in this forum

http://tinyurl.com/ytcah
http://tinyurl.com/2yor7
_
If that is true, then you must be a real
wing-ding on the air.


I am. In fact, I have met many, many great friends through radio over
the years. I also have conducted myself as I do here, giving people
respect and the benefit of doubt until they prove themselves not worthy,
not unlike yourself and N8 and Lelnad and Frank.

So you claim, but every time we dive into that puddle you jump out
whining to your mommy about how the water is too cold and blaming me
for making you jump in.
_
Hopefully Frank is wrong and you're not really
a closet ham.
*
No, he's just a paranoid wannabe. He doesn't have the self-discipline
to study for a test or learn code.

Frank is always wrong,,,its' why you and he are two peas in a 3 way
pod,,,as another op said,,,..such misery sticks together.

Besides,
that leads to blindness.

You're out in left field again, Davie. Better unwrap that tinfoil hat
you need wear when posting and clear your failed attempts at making
yourself clear to the masses.

I think "the masses" caught the humor (at your
expense, of course) in that comment.


And therein lies the beauty of conversing with you, Davie...what you
"think" has never been in
line with the masses.


True, as the masses don't want to watch the electrolysis treatments on
the palms of your hands.
_
Tell Ray I said hi........


I most certainly will if you tell me who he is and I can reach him on my
radio.
Does Kim know that you are out here initiating off-topic personal posts
on usenet concerning internet strangers you blame for your personal
woes?


Dave
"Sandbagger"
N3CVJ
http://home.ptd.net/~n3cv


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http://tinyurl.com/2yor7

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have a problem with. You guys are wrong and you both know it and
are both too small to admit it."
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From: (Dave=A0Hall)
On Thu, 27 May 2004 12:57:07 -0400,
(Tampa Bay Always Kicks Philthy Azz) wrote:
From: (Dave=A0Hall)
On Wed, 26 May 2004 13:20:02 -0400,
(Tampa Bay Always Kicks Philthy Azz) wrote: It has come to my attention
that all the manias you toss about as insult are the ones from which you
more than likely suffer. You typify theclassic projectionist and search
for more insults as you angrily post along,,,,,,,. It all makes sense
when taken into consideration all but the most supervised of visits were
taken from you involving your child.

Projecting?

Certainly.The angrier you get, the more insults you post as you go
along.

Who's angry?



If your insult comes freely with no anger, the character flaw of which
you display is much worse than initial misonceptions of yourself.

Other than you that is....... You project that

anger on

me, and then accuse me of doing it.
=A0=A0YOU went off-topic and began ranting about mememememe as opposed
to the FCC rule you were unable to debate absent of insult and
off-topics

You certainly are self absorbed aren't you?


Actually,, it is you that is self-consumed,,with ME. You made the thread
from one of your many errors (claiming that roger beeps are illegal) to
one of myself being your subject matter. To blame myself for your acts
is a bonus.

You think this is all about you?


Not at all,,,,you do.I was speaking of your ignorcane holding a roger
beep as illegal on cb and you made your topic one of me,,,as usual.
You're obsessed.

What's the matter, didn't mommy give you the

attention you craved as a child, which you now
demand from this newsgroup instead?


,,,,lol,,you are the one with a deficit in communications, focusing your
attacks and insults on the person instead of a topic...you were never
taught any better so you darn sure never learned how to debate. That
goof about the roger beeps being illegal sure has you in a tizzy,,,,lol.

The more you say it (And you're up to

practically every post now) the less it means

to anyone other than yourself.

YOU went off-topic and entered insults to this thread. I'm not the one
selectively editing the thread and posts to create an illusion of
righteousness for myself..*you are*....I'm not the one with issues of
low self-worth and self-esteem, coupled with self-hatred and projection
of personal issues.....*you* are.

Who's the one obsessing now?


LOL...it has always been you. No matter how many times I redirect your
childlike mannerisms and attention deficit, you are unable to maintain
your original topic of erroneously claiming roger beeps are illegal on
cb. Such an obsession and disorder has you unable to focus on anything
but myself.

Yep, I'm your

worst nightmare.....

Which is why you snip the posts....you always distort truth,,,coupled
with outright lying and attempting to project a post out of context as a
manner in which it was not originally presented....you're a malicious
lowlife, Davie.

Funny, I was just following your example of

posting style. Don't like it when your own rules
and tactics are employed against you eh? As

they say in my parts, "What's good for the

goose......"




You initiated such snipping of posts. Your rules,Davie, but your need
for balming others for your actions has always been part of your
depression.


It's not too late to call a mentla health

professional


If such would aid in your supervised-only visits
with your daughter and assist in maintaining a civil relationship with
her mother instead of one of hostility with all you come in to contact,
I say go for it.

So now who's the one projecting?

You did by mentioning a mental health professional, but such would
probably aid you in your dilemma in seeing nothing but the moral fabric
of society crashing in on your depression-filled life and world.


*You* brought up your off-topic, obsession
fancying yourself somehow qualified to judge
another merely by what they permit you in a
post.

Ok then, which are you? a liar or a mental

case? Either you are what you project,



I project nothing. Your interpretive skills are mildly retarded and you
"see" things that no one else does, such as roger beeps being illegal on
cb,,and socialism as the asnwer to our government, and privacy being a
means for someone to get away with a criminal act....LOL...again,,the
problem, as always, is within yourself. Blaming me, and society, and the
FCC is not healthy or logical.


in which case it makes you a sociopath, or you
faked the whole "cartoon character" persona,



Well, gee, davie,,not only have you sealed your reputation as an Extra
who doesn't have a clues at all about rules and regulations pertaining
to cb radio (based on your hysterical claim that roger beeps are
illegal), but entertaining thoughts to yourself that my usenet name may
somehow be a legal name and "real" to yourself to the point of wondering
aloud if the persona was "faked" or not, illustrates just exactly how
far over the edge you were pushed,,,,,,LOL.

which makes you an accomplished actor and

a liar. So which is it?
=A0


The accomplished liar is yourself,,,your posts affirm such going all the
way back into the archives,,you have lied about the Phelps, a cber being
busted,,,you claimed the FCC maintains the roger beep is a sound effect
device for amusement, but can not cite anything to back up any of your
claims. Yet, somehow,,,,this is the fault of either myself or
"society",,hyuk.
The list goes on and on
=A0Such illustrates your need for status to the point of creating it for
yourself.

I've created nothing.


In proper context of contributions to the world and the betterment of
society, such a statement is true, as you have been taught your rants
about society and myself as one are reactive and no proactive.
But in the context of that of what you present, it isn't anyone else on
this group that recognizes your self-professed qualifications of judging
others,,only you feel and claim yourself qualified to judge others by
standards you set,,,such as the length of time one has spent in radio.
This is called elitism and would be frowned upon if it weren't for the
fact that watching you claim self-elevation is but one of the small gems
that makes many of us feel so good about our lives. Whenever one of us
that know how to treat people without insult need a pick-me-up, we
merely tune in to one of your posts or one of Franks. On one of those
rare occasions where we have a bad day at work or play, we have only to
read what you have posted to remind us how screwed up others like
yourself really are, and immediately feel good about our lives,as we
thank God for our blessings and realize our problems in life our quite
mundane when compared to those that you share on a daily basis with the
world: blaming society, hating yourself, subconsciously chossing to see
nothing but the bad in society and feeling comletely helpless and
hapless about the diagnose,,,er,,,subject, and blaming others for your
self-created hell.

You're trying to assign it to me.



You've assigned yourself these things. Again, no one else has ever made
the mistake that you have and attributed such qualifications to
yourself. You are now suffering from delusions of grandeur.

Your bahavior is sign of a low self-esteem and one not
satsified with their personal life and accomplishments,

You speak as if you've had extensive

experience in those areas.


All the regs, Davie, have been exposed to your many years of angry posts
crying about society, seeing society as direct reflection of CB radio.

_
Such gives way
to your behavior that demands the need for insulting
others,,"projection".

Funny, the same thing neatly applies to you.

You are merely the flip side of the same coin

that you accuse others of being.
=A0


Not one person can come forward and claim I have wrongfully affronted
them. I attack issues, not people, until initiated. If defending a
position I present must encompass the attack of another by illustrating
their initial attacks, so be it. I don't mind getting down in the mud
once in awhile with swine not unlike yourself to illustrate what
malicious liars and scumbag hypocrites those who defended N8's behavior
(read: yourself) while attacking others for the "crime" of speaking
about freebanding, actually are.


_
=A0Number two, it illlustrates your self-hatred and dis-satisfaction
with your personal self and a bruised ego, as the need for insulting
another merely for their opinions and views is highly indicative of a
character flaw AND low self-esteem.

It would be if it were true. You should leave

the diagnosis to me.



Might as well, as no one else holds you as qualified except yourself.


You fall far short of the mark in that area.

_
enjoying yourself? I know I am

I always enjoy myself

No need to get THAT personal
=A0
Besides,

that leads to blindness.

You're out in left field again, Davie. Better unwrap that tinfoil hat
you need wear when posting and clear your failed attempts at making
yourself clear to the masses.

=A0I must grin,,,,,, you attempted to give the impression you did not
inquire of such by selectively editing your inquiry in your orginal post
and leaving only my reply to your inquiry.


I comment on the relevant (And I use the term

loosely) points and discard the rest.



You were the one that deemed "enjoying myself" as relevant. You're
breaking down and self-contradcting yourself, Davie, as you're posts are
so far removed from your assinine claim that the FCC had roger beeps as
illegal and the more you snip them the further you remive
yourself..but,,,that is the point, isn't it,,to remove yourlsef from
such foolish claims, as it is quite embarrassing to see an Extra have
his collective azz kicked in rules and regulations knowledge by a low
life cber that freebands...lMAO!

_
Such what makes you
a lid and a detriment to hammie radio. You're part of what is strangling
the hobby.

Care to elaborate on just what is "strangling"

the ham radio hobby?



You are. You are part of the problem, Elaborating will just cornfuse you
further, I prefer to continue to use you as the example here on usenet.
That you require detailed and further explanation is just another to add
to your list of ever-growing personal problems.

A hobby you have thus far rejected and

claimed to have little to no interest in?



I rejected no such thing at any time, but your desperation is much
appreciated.


So now you want us to believe that you are

some sort of subject matter expert on the

dynamics of the ham radio hobby?



No more than you desperately want "us" to believe and accept your
self-qualifications on the judging of others and what is good for them.
You are a problem operator mostly for certain, as it is a great
probability that most act on the air in the manner they conduct
themselves in this forum

If that is true, then you must be a real

wing-ding

on the air.



That you worry (putting it mildly) about all you can not control,
producing extreme and profound inner feelings of impotence that manifest
in your attacks on usenet as a means of venting your frustrations with
myself and "society as a whole", has nothing to do with myself,
actually. You build your world around me

Hopefully Frank is wrong


Frank has been wrong all 12 names he called me..even when he has
"definitely" called me by name.

and you're not really a closet ham.
=A0

A shining example. I can say, when referring to "us", that my views are
much more in line with the average cber than your own. You run, as
always, when posed a question you are unable to provide for, such as
"Who do YOU profess to speak for when utilizing the term "us"?
(chuckle). Take your time,,

Tell Ray I said hi........


Sure,,,tell me what channel he rides or what his handle is and I'll 10-5
anyhting you can't communicate effectively yourself.
But then, of course, you must do something in return,,,tell Kimberly the
penchant you have for inquiring into people's personal lives and making
it your off-topic on usenet. She needs to understand when the crow comes
home to roost that such rules were initiated by yourself.


Dave

N3CVJ

"Sandbagger"

http://home.ptd.net/~n3cv

(Tampa Bay Always Kicks Philthy Azz) wrote in message ...
From: nojunk (Dave Hall)
On Thu, 27 May 2004 12:57:07 -0400,
(Tampa Bay Always Kicks Philthy Azz) wrote:
From: nojunk (Dave Hall)
On Wed, 26 May 2004 13:20:02 -0400,
(Tampa Bay Always Kicks Philthy Azz) wrote: It has come to my attention
that all the manias you toss about as insult are the ones from which you
more than likely suffer. You typify theclassic projectionist and search
for more insults as you angrily

(snip)

Hey dave dont work to hard managing Twisty is like spinning a
basketball on the tip of your finger just a little tweak every so
often is all you need to keep it going

On 1 Jun 2004 16:28:24 -0700, (I Am Not
George) wrote:

(Tampa Bay Always Kicks Philthy Azz) wrote in message ...
From: nojunk (Dave Hall)
On Thu, 27 May 2004 12:57:07 -0400,
(Tampa Bay Always Kicks Philthy Azz) wrote:
From: nojunk (Dave Hall)
On Wed, 26 May 2004 13:20:02 -0400,
(Tampa Bay Always Kicks Philthy Azz) wrote: It has come to my attention
that all the manias you toss about as insult are the ones from which you
more than likely suffer. You typify theclassic projectionist and search
for more insults as you angrily

(snip)

Hey dave dont work to hard managing Twisty is like spinning a
basketball on the tip of your finger just a little tweak every so
often is all you need to keep it going


Heh, I can see that even after a long weekend (Of which most of it was
spent trying to come up with a clever comeback no doubt) he is still
seething in his meltdown. The longer, more verbose and scatterbrained
his posts become, the more obvious that this meltdown is occurring.

Dave
"Sandbagger"
http://home.ptd.net/~n3cvj

On Tue, 1 Jun 2004 14:21:11 -0400,
(Tampa Bay Always Kicks Philthy Azz) wrote:


YOU went off-topic and entered insults to this thread.

Where did I go off topic?


LOL...it has always been you. No matter how many times I redirect your
childlike mannerisms and attention deficit, you are unable to maintain
your original topic of erroneously claiming roger beeps are illegal on
cb. Such an obsession and disorder has you unable to focus on anything
but myself.

You are on those drugs again. Try adding to the topic instead of
trying to insult me and maybe you will learn something.



You did by mentioning a mental health professional, but such would
probably aid you in your dilemma in seeing nothing but the moral fabric
of society crashing in on your depression-filled life and world.


So you categorically deny that the moral compass of our society has
declined in the last few decades? Ask your buddy Jim in Rochester if
he feels that his neighborhood is as good as it was 25 years ago.


Ok then, which are you? a liar or a mental
case? Either you are what you project,
in which case it makes you a sociopath, or you
faked the whole "cartoon character" persona,


but entertaining thoughts to yourself that my usenet name may
somehow be a legal name and "real" to yourself to the point of wondering
aloud if the persona was "faked" or not, illustrates just exactly how
far over the edge you were pushed.

You're kidding right? Do you really take every word so literally?
Maybe that is the crux of your problem. Where did you get the idea
that I would be so ridiculous as to consider the name "Twistedhed" as
a legal name? No one said anything about that, only about the
personality which you project while using that pseudonym.

You've said time and time again that my diagnoses of your
psychological issues is based on what "you allow us to see". The
obvious conclusion one would draw from that statement is that you are
deliberately modifying your behavior on this newsgroup.

So I'll ask again, which are you a sociopath or a liar?





Well, gee, davie,,not only have you sealed your reputation as an Extra
who doesn't have a clues at all about rules and regulations pertaining
to cb radio (based on your hysterical claim that roger beeps are
illegal),

A roger beep was classified as an "amusement device" by the FCC over
20 years ago. Sorry but there was no google then, so no, I don't have
a "hard copy" to reference. If that has changed, that's news to me,
but I'm not above admitting if I am wrong. So prove me wrong and
provide me clarification that the FCC has re-thought its original
declaration.



The accomplished liar is yourself,,,your posts affirm such going all the
way back into the archives,,you have lied about the Phelps, a cber being
busted,

You have never proved that those statements are anything but the
truth. The fact that you accused me of lying about them does not prove
anything. The fact that you cannot find any information about the CBer
who got popped for disturbing the peace, merely reflects on your
inability to access information. That you refuse to accept my
explanation regarding an old repeater antenna is not proof either.



,,you claimed the FCC maintains the roger beep is a sound effect
device for amusement, but can not cite anything to back up any of your
claims.

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. The claim was made
over 20 years ago. I read it back then. I can't remember where
specifically. But because I can't bring it forth now, that makes me an
automatic liar in your book.

*


Not one person can come forward and claim I have wrongfully affronted
them.

What? You're kidding again right? You can't make a post without
attacking someone. I don't want to hear about "you're only giving it
back". Two wrongs don't make a right, and the fact that someone might
have been critical of your 5 years ago is not an excuse for you to
leave your civility at the front door every time you post something
now


I attack issues, not people

THAT is a crock. You can't separate the issues from the people. You
attack them, accuse them of having "communications deficits" (Among
other things), and then turn around and claim that you are only
defending yourself.

, until initiated. If defending a
position I present must encompass the attack of another by illustrating
their initial attacks, so be it.

Your definition of an "initial attack" is somewhat incredulous.


I don't mind getting down in the mud

Of course not, that's been your intention from day one. You need it to
feed your enormous appetite for attention.

while attacking others for the "crime" of speaking
about freebanding, actually are.

Freebanding IS a crime. A federal crime. And it remains so, despite
your 5 year attempt to deflect from that original topic. You are a
practicing criminal. You can't deal with the reality of that claim so
you deflect, obfuscate the truth, and go on the offensive by attacking
the harbingers of that truth in an attempt to tarnish the message by
knocking down the messengers. But, truth be told, even if you do
manage to silence the speakers of truth, you are STILL a practicing
criminal whether or not anyone else knows it or not.

, as the need for insulting
another merely for their opinions and views is highly indicative of a
character flaw AND low self-esteem.

I speak the truth. If the truth insults you, it's not my problem and
further reflective of your own psychological issues.

_
Such what makes you
a lid and a detriment to hammie radio. You're part of what is strangling
the hobby.

Care to elaborate on just what is "strangling"
the ham radio hobby?


You are. You are part of the problem, Elaborating will just cornfuse you
further,

Translation: "You have no clue, but it sounds good to make wild
claims".


If that is true, then you must be a real
wing-ding
on the air.



That you worry (putting it mildly) about all you can not control,
producing extreme and profound inner feelings of impotence that manifest
in your attacks on usenet as a means of venting your frustrations with
myself and "society as a whole", has nothing to do with myself,
actually.

That you felt this important enough to make yet a second response to
indicates the depth of your obsession.

A shining example. I can say, when referring to "us", that my views are
much more in line with the average cber than your own.

Once again, you cannot possible know what the "Average CBer's" views
are. You a just a simpleton living in a make believe world.

Dave
"Sandbagger"
http://home.ptd.net/~n3cvj

In , Dave Hall
wrote:

On Tue, 1 Jun 2004 14:21:11 -0400,
(Tampa Bay Always Kicks Philthy Azz) wrote:


YOU went off-topic and entered insults to this thread.

Where did I go off topic?
snip


He's playing you, Dave. And you have to admit that he's good at it.
But that should come as no suprise when you consider that he has no
job, no wife, no ambition, and no sense of responsibility to his
family, his community, his country or himself.

Before you start typing your next reply to one of his trolls, form an
image in your mind of how he -really- is -- a fat, greasy-haired,
pre-middle-aged couch-potato who clings to his mommy's apron-strings,
and who uses the internet as a social surrogate for when his mommy is
away working to support him because he's too lazy to support himself.
It's a scary image to be sure, but it's far more believable than his
claim of being a "professional journalist".....LOL!

BTW, I don't try to reason with the unreasonable twit anymore -- I
just keep him ranting to make sure that no unsuspecting bystander is
fooled by his psuedo-logic. Without people like us to publically
expose his sociopathic nature he would be busy trying to convince
honest, hard-working people into becoming freeloading criminals like
himself so he won't feel so alone in the world. And even though he is
a truly pathetic individual, don't forget that he still serves a
useful purpose by setting the ultimate example of a human failure!




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From: (Dave=A0Hall)
On Tue, 1 Jun 2004 14:21:11 -0400,
(Tampa Bay Always Kicks Philthy Azz) wrote:
YOU went off-topic and entered insults to this thread.

Where did I go off topic?


Where didn't you go offtopic is the question.

_
LOL...it has always been you. No matter how many times I redirect your
childlike mannerisms and attention deficit, you are unable to maintain
your original topic of erroneously claiming roger beeps are illegal on
cb. Such an obsession and disorder has you unable to focus on anything
but myself.

You are on those drugs again.


Don't do drugs, Davie, or smoke, or drink, but your repeat invocation of
such illustrtates the fondness you have for such foreign substances.

Try adding to the topic instead of trying to

insult me and maybe you will learn something.


I have learned you that your orignal calim of roger beeps being illegal
on cb is wrong, and it contributed to your breakdown.


Where did I go off-topic?

You did by mentioning a mental health professional, but such would
probably aid you in your dilemma in seeing nothing but the moral fabric
of society crashing in on your depression-filled life and world.

So you categorically deny that the moral

compass of our society has declined in the

last few decades?



My opinion on your off-topic subjects is not pertinent to your gaffes.
Try to remain on topic and stop running from your idiotic claim that
roger beeps are illegal on cb. Were you able to manage to locate any
passage among FCC rules that agrees with your clownish claim that the
FCC holds roger beeps as "amusement devices"? No, you weren't. Were you
able to find anything among the "old" FCC rules that illustrates they
"used" to view roger beeps as illegal as you claimed? Again, NO, you
were not. More bull****, more lies from N3CVJ. Pointing out your lies
and bull**** has you on one hell of an angry personal attack,,,,,as is
to be expected...such behavior shows a shining example of why your type
is the scourge of hammie radio..no communication skill and when a
salient point is made showing your claim is bull****, you can't handle
it and something inside your little bruised ego goes "pop" and you begin
to hurl insults and become personal. You're not an effective
communicator, Davie-son, and you most certainly do not set an example or
abide by the hammie creed.



Ask your buddy Jim in Rochester


He's not my buddy. I don't know anything about the man except that you
can learn proper communication skills from such a person.


if he feels that his neighborhood is as good as

it was 25 years ago.




There are exceptions to all rules, such as the single neighborhood you
selected as your example. To listen to the president, domestic crime has
actually decreased in the country. Assuming the president is telling the
truth, such flies in the face of your claim that society has
"declined". But let's keep with your goofy claim,,,,,since you reside in
such a foul area, you should remove yourself from the problem instead of
redundantly reacting all the time on usenet about your woes and blaming
everyone else (society) for your problems. Of course, if you had the
slightest clue about being "proactive" instead of reactive to your
problesm you wouldn't need look to Frank for support in many of your
childish threads.



Ok then, which are you? a liar or a mental

case? Either you are what you project,

in which case it makes you a sociopath, or you
faked the whole "cartoon character" persona,

Entertaining thoughts to yourself that my usenet name may somehow be a
legal name and "real" to yourself to the point of wondering aloud if the
persona was "faked" or not, illustrates just exactly how far over the
edge you were pushed.

You're kidding right? Do you really take every

word so literally?


I merely reply to the words you present. You must come to comprehend
that it is not my fault nor socities fault that the words you choose to
present are never adequate in retrospect in conveying properly just what
you meant. You have this entertaining need to say what you posted isn't
really what *you* meant,,,illustrating once again, have severe
disabilities in conveying yourself clearly and properly,,,a deficit in
communications.



Maybe that is the crux of your problem.


The problem, as has been satsifactory demonstrated time and time again,
is inside your head and with your poor communicative skills. Blaming me
or society for what ails you is a bonus.



Where did you get the idea that I would be so r
idiculous as to consider the name

"Twistedhed" as a legal name? No one said

anything about that, only about the personality
which you project while using that pseudonym.


Everything you interpret, including my persona, has been shown time
after time to be in the extreme minority.



You've said time and time again that my

diagnoses of your psychological issues is

based on what "you allow us to see".



Not at all,,,,what I have said, is your self-imposed status that somehow
has you suffering from delusions of qualification to judge others, is
based on what I allow *you*,,,,no one else..there is no "us" when any
other hammie speaks of you. There has never been a hammie that has
included you in the word "us" on this group, and for good reason.


The obvious conclusion one would draw from

that statement is that you are deliberately

modifying your behavior on this newsgroup.



You're sinking faster than your twisted psyche can follow.




So I'll ask again, which are you a sociopath or

a liar?


And I'll ask again,,,,please present the rules and regs showing the FCC
holds a roger beep as illegal or as a means of amusement. First things
first.
_
Well, gee, davie,,not only have you sealed your reputation as an Extra
who doesn't have a clues at all about rules and regulations pertaining
to cb radio (based on your hysterical claim that roger beeps are
illegal),

A roger beep was classified as an

"amusement device" by the FCC over 20

years ago.



No dice, An Extra should know the current lawas and regulations,
especially for a service he has used many times since the rules you
speak of were enacted. Nevertheless, that was never the issue,,,the
issue was that you maintain the FCC holds the device as a means of
amusement and that such is illegal on cb,,,,,,,,,,only it isn't
true,,its bull**** from an Extra that should know what he is talking
about prior to embarrassing himself with ignorance.



Sorry


Indeed, but beside the point.


but there was no google then, so no, I don't

have a "hard copy" to reference.



Of course you don't.

If that has changed, that's news to me, but I'm

not above admitting if I am wrong.



You have been dancing around the subject. Allow me to remind you that
when I told you such is NOT illegal, you made the statement that "only
those who have a clear understanding of the rules and do not suffer from
problems" know that a roger beep is illegal on cb. Indeed,your problems
have always been illustrated Davie, but thise time, you presented them
on a silver platter to the radio world.


So prove me wrong and provide me

clarification that the FCC has re-thought its

original declaration.




No need to prove you wrong, as EVERYONE except you is aware of the
rules. The burden of proof is always on the claimant, not the inquirer,
although, such is how you would prefer this country to be,,,it ranks
right there with your admitted socialism and anti-privacy stances,,,as
that isn't how things are done in this country.
Your absence of proof of all your claims is most definitely absence of
validity.

So I'll ask again, which are you a sociopath or

a liar?





The accomplished liar is yourself,,,your posts affirm such going all the
way back into the archives,,you have lied about the Phelps, a cber being
busted,

You have never proved that those statements

are anything but the truth. The fact that you

accused me of lying about them does not

prove anything.



But Davie,,,,the continual absence of you providing for proof in ANY of
your claims is all the proof one needs.



The fact that you cannot find any information

about the CBer who got popped for disturbing

the peace, merely reflects on your inability to

access information.




Sure, sure,,,lol,,,,,coupled with the fact that you beg to be taken at
face value with no proof at any time, merely reflects on your inability
to prove anything you have ever said regarding any of your claims,



That you refuse to accept my explanation

regarding an old repeater antenna is not proof

either.



Ahh,,but once again,most in radio, especially licensed hammies, have
ever owned a certain antenna, especially a base antenna, they would
remember it mostly all their lives. The fact that you claimed you had an
antenna, and told another that his antenna "doesn't hold a candle" to
your Phelps Staion master, then your mind goes blank and you reply "What
Phelps" when asked about your Phelps a few years later, is all the proof
one needs to realize you lie all the time. Begging to have your bull****
believed merely because you claim it true is not proof.



_
,,you claimed the FCC maintains the roger beep is a sound effect device
for amusement, but can not cite anything to back up any of your claims.

Absence of evidence is not evidence of

absence.


You keep saying that, but absence of evidence is most certainly the
standard by which an individual is judged in the United States but since
you take issue with so many of the
ways of which the US operates, you should move to a country that
operates under your system of belief, as you are in the radical minority
here and because society doesn't conform to your troubled beliefs, you
claim the country is going down hill. You have issues.
But then again, watching your socialistic mannerisms and elevating
yourself to the position of one qualified to judge others on what you
are given, is all the "evidence" one needs for a sound judgement of
yourself.



The claim was made over 20 years ago. I read
it back then. I can't remember where

specifically. But because I can't bring it forth

now, that makes me an automatic liar in your

book.



Not at all,,,,that you can't bring forth ALL your unsubstantiated claims
make you a liar in everyone's book. When one makes unfounded claims on a
regular basis and has not once provided for any of them when asked, that
person is viewed as a liar, a propagandist at best.




=A0
Not one person can come forward and claim I have wrongfully affronted
them.

What? You're kidding again right? You can't

make a post without attacking someone. I

don't want to hear about "you're only giving it

back". Two wrongs don't make a right, and the
fact that someone might have been critical of

your 5 years ago is not an excuse for you to

leave your civility at the front door every time

you post something now




You're looking in a mirror.




I attack issues, not people

THAT is a crock. You can't separate the

issues from the people. You attack them,

accuse them of having "communications

deficits" (Among other things), and then turn

around and claim that you are only defending

yourself.




Not at all. Many times have I admitted giving back ten times what is
received.

_
, until initiated. If defending a
position I present must encompass the attack of another by illustrating
their initial attacks, so be it.

Your definition of an "initial attack" is

somewhat incredulous.





And pales in comparison to your definition of self-interpretation, state
of society, absence of proof, rules of the FCC, and self-annointed
qualifications.


_
I don't mind getting down in the mud

Of course not, that's been your intention from

day one. You need it to feed your enormous

appetite for attention.



You are the one making all the posts personal and about myself as
opposed to an issue,,,it is what alerted the radio world to your
communications deficit,,,in addition to your flip-flopping and lying
about cbers and your position regarding such, depending on your mood for
the day.

_
You are the one defending N8's disgusitng felonious crimes while
attacking others for the "crime" of speaking about freebanding.

Freebanding IS a crime.


Talking about it isn't, something your defict has yet to overcome.


A federal crime.



If that were so, all who have received an NAL would have a criminal rap
sheet,,,lol,,but alas,,they don't. Care to elaborate,? Tell me genius,
is a federal crime the same thing as a felony? g


And it remains so, despite your 5 year attempt
to deflect from that original topic. You are a

practicing criminal. You can't deal with the

reality of that claim so you deflect, obfuscate

the truth, and go on the offensive by attacking

the harbingers of that truth in an attempt to

tarnish the message by knocking down the

messengers.




Message? LMAO,,,WHAT message?
Misinterpreting your reactive calling of names is a message is more of
waht ails you. That you choose to defend one who blatantly gets busted
by the FCC for jamming a repeater and who was convicted of child abuse (
a FELONY) while railing against one who chooses to speak of a topic you
can not only handle, but are unable to properly define, illustrates your
ignorance, hypocrisy, and skewered radical view that are shared by none
except yourself and N8WWM and KC8LDO.


But, truth be told, even if you do manage to

silence the speakers of truth, you are STILL a

practicing criminal whether or not anyone else

knows it or not.





On the contrary,,I'm not the one that has made countless accusations
based on nothing more than ignorance,,,you are.



I speak the truth. If the truth insults you, it's not
my problem and further reflective of your own

psychological issues.




If one speaks the truth, one has no problem providing for suc. You have
provided for nothing, except more lipservice.

_
Such what makes you
a lid and a detriment to hammie radio. You're part of what is strangling
the hobby.

Care to elaborate on just what is "strangling"

the ham radio hobby?

You are. You are part of the problem, Elaborating will just cornfuse you
further,


_




If that is true, then you must be a real

wing-ding

on the air.

That you worry (putting it mildly) about all you can not control,
producing extreme and profound inner feelings of impotence that manifest
in your attacks on usenet as a means of venting your frustrations with
myself and "society as a whole", has nothing to do with myself,
actually.

That you felt this important enough to make

yet a second response to indicates the depth

of your obsession.



It wasn't a second response, it was a first response to a thread you
have hacked.

_
A shining example. I can say, when referring to "us", that my views are
much more in line with the average cber than your own.

Once again, you cannot possible know what

the "Average CBer's" views are.


Sure I can. The fact that I was a regular contributor for over a year to
a subscription-only monthly Sporadic Waves whose topic was cb,
illustrates just that. Publishers only print what is advantageous to
their bottom line, especially with a for-profit 'zine such as Sporadic.
If you need an education on how the business operates, that is no
surprise, but feel free to profess more ignorance on that of which you
do not know.



You a just a simpleton living in a make believe
world.

I'm not the one that sees the sky falling or society failing me, or
feels I am the lone voice in a society whose "moral fabric" is
degenerating and against me, or one who blames others and society for
all not comprehended ...*you* are.

Dave

"Sandbagger"

N3CVJ

http://home.ptd.net/~n3cvj

It is the citizen's job to enforce the law -Frank Gilliland
-

I work for an organization that is legally authorized to use the
freeband" - Frank Gilliland -
_
From: Frank Gilliland Group: =A0=A0
rec.radio.cb Subject: =A0=A0 OT: Berg video Date: =A0=A0 Sun, May
16, 2004, 9:17pm (EDT-3) Frank Gilliland
wrote: Somebody should inform Landshark that there is more than one
person in this world named Scott.
Scott A. Gilbert, aka Race Warrior, aka SAPguru, aka etc, etc, etc.
_
Frank Gilliland wrote: that's either Twisty
or Timmy. -----=3D
_
From: wrote in message:
Frank Gilliland
wrote:
Race Warrior aka twistedhed
-
From:
Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb
Frank Gilliland wrote: Twisted's name is Mike
from south Florida.
_
From:
Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb
Subject:
Frank wrote: "twisty is Richard Cranium"
_
Frank Gilliland wrote: His name is definitely
Dave McCampbell and he is an Extra.
_
From: (Frank Gilliland)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb
Subject: Week old, Spark? (sigh) Ok..
Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 05:33:18 GMT
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
Message-ID:
X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/16.235
X-Complaints-To:
Lines: 25
What's even funnier is that your headers show the same path as KC8JBO,
Mr. K, Foghorn, and twisties real ISP.
_
IIlegal cb use affects me in my work - Frank Gilliland

_

"I have admitted to lying in this newsgroup, and on several occasions" -
Frank Gilliland

On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 06:35:40 -0700, Frank Gilliland
wrote:

In , Dave Hall
wrote:

On Tue, 1 Jun 2004 14:21:11 -0400,
(Tampa Bay Always Kicks Philthy Azz) wrote:


YOU went off-topic and entered insults to this thread.

Where did I go off topic?
snip


He's playing you, Dave. And you have to admit that he's good at it.

He thinks he is, but I've had his number for quite awhile now. I only
let him play to the point where he reminds everyone just how absurd
his thinking is. Once that point is reached, then I just cut him off
and put him back in his box until the next time.

But that should come as no suprise when you consider that he has no
job, no wife, no ambition, and no sense of responsibility to his
family, his community, his country or himself.

I try to refrain from extrapolating things about his lifestyle which
are not readily apparent from his behavior here. I can fairly
accurately ascertain that he has psychological issues. But I don't
know what his real age is, or other things about his personal life.
Quite frankly (No pun intended) I'm not all that interested either.


Before you start typing your next reply to one of his trolls, form an
image in your mind of how he -really- is

I already know based on his reactions. He is starved for attention.
You have to walk a fine line between exposing him for what he is, and
feeding his enormous craving. That's why he has fits when people cut
the verbosity of his posts down. He likes reading his own words, and
it's blasphemous for someone else to "edit" them. Classic narcissism.


-- a fat, greasy-haired,
pre-middle-aged couch-potato who clings to his mommy's apron-strings,
and who uses the internet as a social surrogate for when his mommy is
away working to support him because he's too lazy to support himself.
It's a scary image to be sure, but it's far more believable than his
claim of being a "professional journalist".....LOL!

A "Professional Journalist" who's stuck with WebTV.........

BTW, I don't try to reason with the unreasonable twit anymore

No, that would be counterproductive. He's not interested in finding a
resolution to a dispute. He wants the dispute to continue, for no
other reason than it gives him more of that much sought after
attention.

-- I
just keep him ranting to make sure that no unsuspecting bystander is
fooled by his psuedo-logic.

I think a judicious google search would set any unsuspecting bystander
straight as to who they are dealing with.

Without people like us to publically
expose his sociopathic nature he would be busy trying to convince
honest, hard-working people into becoming freeloading criminals like
himself so he won't feel so alone in the world.

Deflection of responsibility is a classic sign of a sociopath.

And even though he is
a truly pathetic individual, don't forget that he still serves a
useful purpose by setting the ultimate example of a human failure!

He is the newsgroup punch-clown.....


Dave
"Sandbagger"
http://home.ptd.net/~n3cvj

On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 12:23:35 -0400,
(Tampa Bay Always Kicks Philthy Azz) wrote:


I have learned you that your orignal calim of roger beeps being illegal
on cb is wrong, and it contributed to your breakdown.

You have yet to provide a specific passage in FCC part 95 which
permits a roger beep.

Whether or not the FCC now considers a roger beep to be for amusement
or entertainment purposes is a matter for speculation until the FCC
rules specifically.

I'm telling you what I saw 20 years ago, when the FCC lumped together
a whole batch of birdies, echo's, "beeps", and other "toys" and
declared that their use was deemed to be "for entertainment purposes"
and as such were not allowed under part 95. Furthermore they also
added that the addition of such devices to existing radios would void
type acceptance.



So you categorically deny that the moral
compass of our society has declined in the
last few decades?



My opinion on your off-topic subjects is not pertinent to your gaffes.

In other words, you plead the 5th. A wise choice. For if you were to
disagree with me, it would prove beyond any doubt that you are truly
oblivious to life outside your little fantasy world. And of course
your ego would never allow you to agree with me, so you say nothing.


Ask your buddy Jim in Rochester

He's not my buddy.

I guess there aren't too many who are.....


if he feels that his neighborhood is as good as
it was 25 years ago.


There are exceptions to all rules, such as the single neighborhood you
selected as your example.

Look around. It's more the rule than the exception.


To listen to the president, domestic crime has
actually decreased in the country.

Crime is only one facet of the whole picture. Lessening of the crime
rate may also be indicative of better law enforcement activities.

Look into how many people no longer consider other people's rights or
who lack simply courtesy, and you'll see a bigger picture.


Entertaining thoughts to yourself that my usenet name may somehow be a
legal name and "real" to yourself to the point of wondering aloud if the
persona was "faked" or not, illustrates just exactly how far over the
edge you were pushed.

You're kidding right? Do you really take every
word so literally?


I merely reply to the words you present. You must come to comprehend
that it is not my fault nor socities fault that the words you choose to
present are never adequate in retrospect in conveying properly just what
you meant.

I'm sure there was nobody else who is reading this thread who didn't
understand what I was implying (And they are more than welcome to
chime in if I'm wrong). That you again, are the lone standout
underscores your inability to comprehend simple language.



Everything you interpret, including my persona, has been shown time
after time to be in the extreme minority.

Shown by whom? There has yet to be a case where anyone has spoken up
and supported you. You claim to speak for the "majority", but we have
only your word as evidence.


The obvious conclusion one would draw from
that statement is that you are deliberately
modifying your behavior on this newsgroup.

You're sinking faster than your twisted psyche can follow.

I'll take that as an admission of guilt. A little longer and you might
be able to confront your problems. As they say, admitting you have a
problem is the first step toward resolution.


So I'll ask again, which are you a sociopath or
a liar?



A roger beep was classified as an

"amusement device" by the FCC over 20

years ago.



No dice, An Extra should know the current lawas and regulations,

Of the amateur radio service. This is CB remember........

the FCC holds the device as a means of
amusement and that such is illegal on cb,,,,,,,,,,only it isn't
true,,its bull**** from an Extra that should know what he is talking
about prior to embarrassing himself with ignorance.

Prove it.


So prove me wrong and provide me
clarification that the FCC has re-thought its
original declaration.




No need to prove you wrong, as EVERYONE except you is aware of the
rules.

Nowhere in the rules does it say that roger beeps are legal. The fact
that they are not included on the vast majority of legitimate radios
further supports that notion.


Specifically, 95.413 subpart a6 specifically addresses devices used
for amusement or entertainment. A roger beep could be classified as
such, since it is not addressed anywhere else.

95.412 subpart b also defines permissible tones, and defines them as
"only when the signal is used to make contact or to continue
communications". They further clarify the intent by mentioning
selective call units.

If there was a passage in the rules which read something like:" A
single tone, signalling the end of transmission is permissible", then
it would be a different story. But there isn't such a passage. So you
have nothing to stand on when you make the claim that roger beeps are
legal.


The burden of proof is always on the claimant, not the inquirer

And you claim that R.B.'s are legal without any evidence to back it
up, so I'm waiting for you to prove it.

it ranks
right there with your admitted socialism

Provide me the quote where I've admitted to being a socialist. You are
so far off the mark on that one, that it's laughable, even for you.

and anti-privacy stances,

If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear........


So I'll ask again, which are you a sociopath or

a liar?


The accomplished liar is yourself

Says you. You who have failed to prove any of your claims. And as you
are ripe to say, the poof is on the claimant. You claim I'm a liar,
but cannot prove it. What does that make you?


You have never proved that those statements
are anything but the truth. The fact that you
accused me of lying about them does not
prove anything.

But Davie,,,,the continual absence of you providing for proof in ANY of
your claims is all the proof one needs.

I don't have to prove anything. You are the one who claims I am lying.
Provide the evidence that I am lying. Because you simply refuse to
believe it is not "proof" of a lie.


The fact that you cannot find any information
about the CBer who got popped for disturbing
the peace, merely reflects on your inability to
access information.




Sure, sure,,,lol,,,,,coupled with the fact that you beg to be taken at
face value with no proof at any time.

Why not? You do it all the time. You have yet to substantiate any
claim that you've made.


Ahh,,but once again,most in radio, especially licensed hammies, have
ever owned a certain antenna, especially a base antenna, they would
remember it mostly all their lives.

That is your assumption. A flawed one though. You base your proof on a
flawed assumption. No wonder you'd never become a scientist.

,,you claimed the FCC maintains the roger beep is a sound effect device
for amusement, but can not cite anything to back up any of your claims.

Absence of evidence is not evidence of
absence.


You keep saying that, but absence of evidence is most certainly the
standard by which an individual is judged in the United States

This is not a criminal trial. Although you should be sitting at the
defendant's bench.

Not at all,,,,that you can't bring forth ALL your unsubstantiated claims
make you a liar in everyone's book. When one makes unfounded claims on a
regular basis and has not once provided for any of them when asked, that
person is viewed as a liar, a propagandist at best.

Then by your own definition, you are a liar, since you have thus far
failed to back up most of the claims that you have made in the past.
Like the military group that you ran from when Frank called your
bluff.


Not at all. Many times have I admitted giving back ten times what is
received.

More signs of sociopathic behavior.


And pales in comparison to your definition of self-interpretation, state
of society, absence of proof, rules of the FCC, and self-annointed
qualifications.

Careful, you might blow a fuse.


I don't mind getting down in the mud

Of course not, that's been your intention from
day one. You need it to feed your enormous
appetite for attention.



You are the one making all the posts personal and about myself as
opposed to an issue,

You started that. A long time ago.



You are the one defending N8's disgusitng felonious crimes while
attacking others for the "crime" of speaking about freebanding.

When have I defended Doug's "criminal" activities?


Freebanding IS a crime.

Talking about it isn't,

Why talk about something you aren't allowed to engage in? That's
nothing more than doubletalk.

A federal crime.



If that were so, all who have received an NAL would have a criminal rap
sheet,,,lol,,but alas,,they don't.

They will once convicted. The rest are simply playing Russian Roulette
with the time clock.


. That you choose to defend one who blatantly gets busted
by the FCC for jamming a repeater and who was convicted of child abuse (
a FELONY)

When?

while railing against one who chooses to speak of a topic you
can not only handle, but are unable to properly define, illustrates your
ignorance, hypocrisy, and skewered radical view that are shared by none
except yourself and N8WWM and KC8LDO.

Why should the crimes of one, excuse the crimes of another?


On the contrary,,I'm not the one that has made countless accusations
based on nothing more than ignorance.

You mean like those countless claims that I'm a liar?


I speak the truth. If the truth insults you, it's not
my problem and further reflective of your own
psychological issues.

If one speaks the truth, one has no problem providing for suc. You have
provided for nothing, except more lipservice.

Much like you. You expect everyone here to take your word at face
value, while demanding irrefutable proof from anyone else? There's a
word for that......... Yea, that's it! Hypocrite


That you felt this important enough to make
yet a second response to indicates the depth
of your obsession.

It wasn't a second response, it was a first response to a thread you
have hacked.

That's funny coming from a WebTV used who hasn't even mastered the
simplest of quoting techniques.


Once again, you cannot possible know what

the "Average CBer's" views are.


Sure I can. The fact that I was a regular contributor for over a year to
a subscription-only monthly Sporadic Waves whose topic was cb,
illustrates just that.

What, that you appeal to other bootlegger criminals? Is that supposed
to legitimize your activities and your anti-social mindset?

Publishers only print what is advantageous to
their bottom line, especially with a for-profit 'zine such as Sporadic.

Guy's who publish porn say the same thing. But is it something
reflective of wholesome societal behavior?

It's time to put you back in your box. I've fed your attention for far
longer than you've deserved. I'm sure you'll want the last word, your
ego demands it, but that's it from me.



Dave
"Sandbagger"
http://home.ptd.net/~n3cvj