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"Dr.X" wrote in message
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"Jerry" wrote in message
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http://www.kb8ygc.com/Repeater.pdf

This comes from www.copper.com "forums". Apparently, there is a
"repeater"
for the chicken band on the air. The link at the very top has
pictures,
circuitry and everything! Is this not against the law? .

Jerry

I've made 11 meter repeaters before. If you stay low keyed, you can get
away
with it for a very long time. Personally I think it's much better than
running a bunch of heat to get out and you're not splattering the crap
out
of your neighbors if you're accessing it from your home. Worked great
with
a
HH too but I had to make the encoder inside a large mobile mic since I
couldn't fit it into the radio shack hh at the time.

-Dr.X



Do you also drive at 100 MPH because it's illegal to do so and you've done
it before? People who always break the rules are partially responsible for
yet more being imposed. Rules are made for a reason. And no, it isn't to
be
broken....

NS

If you're going to use that analogy, then make it a little more realistic.
Using a repeater on 11 meters is more like driving 5 MPH over the speed
limit. I guess you would rather have folks driving near hospitals with 1200
watt splatter boxes stopping hart monitors just so they can be heard.

-Dr.X

"Dr.X" wrote in message
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"NO SPAM" wrote in message
erio.net...

"Dr.X" wrote in message
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"Jerry" wrote in message
...
http://www.kb8ygc.com/Repeater.pdf

This comes from www.copper.com "forums". Apparently, there is a
"repeater"
for the chicken band on the air. The link at the very top has
pictures,
circuitry and everything! Is this not against the law? .

Jerry

I've made 11 meter repeaters before. If you stay low keyed, you can
get
away
with it for a very long time. Personally I think it's much better than
running a bunch of heat to get out and you're not splattering the crap
out
of your neighbors if you're accessing it from your home. Worked great
with
a
HH too but I had to make the encoder inside a large mobile mic since I
couldn't fit it into the radio shack hh at the time.

-Dr.X



Do you also drive at 100 MPH because it's illegal to do so and you've
done
it before? People who always break the rules are partially responsible
for
yet more being imposed. Rules are made for a reason. And no, it isn't to
be
broken....

NS

If you're going to use that analogy, then make it a little more realistic.
Using a repeater on 11 meters is more like driving 5 MPH over the speed
limit. I guess you would rather have folks driving near hospitals with
1200
watt splatter boxes stopping hart monitors just so they can be heard.

-Dr.X



The whole point WAS.... Do you do it because it is ILLEGAL? Driving faster
than the speed limit allows - regardless if 5 or 100, linear amps, etc...
ALL are illegal, so is that why you do it? ANY analogy could be used in this
case. IF it is illegal, it is illegal - regardless what the situation is
which is against the laws of the land. As for comparing the damage done in
going 100 mph as opposed to a CB repeater... Maybe there isn't any
comparison in that regard, BUT again BOTH are illegal. No, I wouldn't want
people driving past Hospitals with 1200W splatter boxes, silly statement -
they're not legal anyhow. SO that analogy sucks as bad as you think mine
did. Besides, they won't "stop" a heart monitor. Maybe interfere. A "heart
monitor" won't "stop" the heart, it merely reads the heart rhythm and allows
the staff to see how the patient is doing. RF in close proximity may
interfere with a Pacer, but I'm not so sure a 1200 watt radio going down the
road will do it. It is more like Microwave ovens up close, some other forms
of RF at high density, like Radar System. Cell phones are even thought to
do it - in some cases. I'm sure there are 1500 watt Ham stations within
proximity to some hospitals with no mention of problems. But no matter, if
you're into illegal operations, nothing anyone else says will sit well with
you. All I can say is - do it long enough, your turn will come.

NS

Well then you made no point. I think everyone here is mature enough to
already know it's illegal. I don't recall reading anything in the thread
that said/argued otherwise.

Typically, things are illegal for a reason. I'm still listening to why a
repeater should be illegal on a CB freq....and a car going 100 mph ain't
gonna cut it :-)

Don

"NO SPAM" wrote in message
rio.net...
"Dr.X" wrote in message
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"NO SPAM" wrote in message
erio.net...

"Dr.X" wrote in message
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"Jerry" wrote in message
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http://www.kb8ygc.com/Repeater.pdf

This comes from www.copper.com "forums". Apparently, there is a
"repeater"
for the chicken band on the air. The link at the very top has
pictures,
circuitry and everything! Is this not against the law? .

Jerry

I've made 11 meter repeaters before. If you stay low keyed, you can
get
away
with it for a very long time. Personally I think it's much better
than
running a bunch of heat to get out and you're not splattering the
crap
out
of your neighbors if you're accessing it from your home. Worked great
with
a
HH too but I had to make the encoder inside a large mobile mic since
I
couldn't fit it into the radio shack hh at the time.

-Dr.X



Do you also drive at 100 MPH because it's illegal to do so and you've
done
it before? People who always break the rules are partially responsible
for
yet more being imposed. Rules are made for a reason. And no, it isn't
to
be
broken....

NS

If you're going to use that analogy, then make it a little more
realistic.
Using a repeater on 11 meters is more like driving 5 MPH over the speed
limit. I guess you would rather have folks driving near hospitals with
1200
watt splatter boxes stopping hart monitors just so they can be heard.

-Dr.X



The whole point WAS.... Do you do it because it is ILLEGAL? Driving faster
than the speed limit allows - regardless if 5 or 100, linear amps, etc...
ALL are illegal, so is that why you do it? ANY analogy could be used in
this
case. IF it is illegal, it is illegal - regardless what the situation is
which is against the laws of the land. As for comparing the damage done
in
going 100 mph as opposed to a CB repeater... Maybe there isn't any
comparison in that regard, BUT again BOTH are illegal. No, I wouldn't want
people driving past Hospitals with 1200W splatter boxes, silly statement -
they're not legal anyhow. SO that analogy sucks as bad as you think mine
did. Besides, they won't "stop" a heart monitor. Maybe interfere. A "heart
monitor" won't "stop" the heart, it merely reads the heart rhythm and
allows
the staff to see how the patient is doing. RF in close proximity may
interfere with a Pacer, but I'm not so sure a 1200 watt radio going down
the
road will do it. It is more like Microwave ovens up close, some other
forms
of RF at high density, like Radar System. Cell phones are even thought to
do it - in some cases. I'm sure there are 1500 watt Ham stations within
proximity to some hospitals with no mention of problems. But no matter,
if
you're into illegal operations, nothing anyone else says will sit well
with
you. All I can say is - do it long enough, your turn will come.

NS

"NO SPAM" wrote in message
rio.net...
"Dr.X" wrote in message
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"NO SPAM" wrote in message
erio.net...

"Dr.X" wrote in message
...
"Jerry" wrote in message
...
http://www.kb8ygc.com/Repeater.pdf

This comes from www.copper.com "forums". Apparently, there is a
"repeater"
for the chicken band on the air. The link at the very top has
pictures,
circuitry and everything! Is this not against the law? .

Jerry

I've made 11 meter repeaters before. If you stay low keyed, you can
get
away
with it for a very long time. Personally I think it's much better
than
running a bunch of heat to get out and you're not splattering the
crap
out
of your neighbors if you're accessing it from your home. Worked
great
with
a
HH too but I had to make the encoder inside a large mobile mic since
I
couldn't fit it into the radio shack hh at the time.

-Dr.X



Do you also drive at 100 MPH because it's illegal to do so and you've
done
it before? People who always break the rules are partially responsible
for
yet more being imposed. Rules are made for a reason. And no, it isn't
to
be
broken....

NS

If you're going to use that analogy, then make it a little more
realistic.
Using a repeater on 11 meters is more like driving 5 MPH over the speed
limit. I guess you would rather have folks driving near hospitals with
1200
watt splatter boxes stopping hart monitors just so they can be heard.

-Dr.X



The whole point WAS.... Do you do it because it is ILLEGAL?
The whole point WAS.... Do you do it because it is ILLEGAL?

Nope, and I doubt you exceed the speed limit just because it's illegal too.
(and please don't say you've never exceeded the speed limit 'cuz I just
won't believe you).

Driving faster
than the speed limit allows - regardless if 5 or 100, linear amps, etc...
ALL are illegal, so is that why you do it?

Nope.

ANY analogy could be used in this
case.

You're right. I misread. My humble apologies on that.

IF it is illegal, it is illegal - regardless what the situation is
which is against the laws of the land.

So I've heard... *yawn*

As for comparing the damage done in
going 100 mph as opposed to a CB repeater... Maybe there isn't any
comparison in that regard, BUT again BOTH are illegal. No, I wouldn't want
people driving past Hospitals with 1200W splatter boxes,

Snip useless soapbox on your medical knowledge since you're not too stupid
to understand what was meant in the first place

Ok, to fix the 1200 watts into the hospital analogy, we'll forget that
situation and I'll give you one that you and I can both relate to better.

I live in an apartment complex. If you lived in the apartment next door to
me, would you rather put up with me kicking on a 1200 watt box on an indoor
dipole, or would it be better that I just use my 2 watt walkie talkie to
connect to a repeater so I can talk with my friends? I don't think I need to
explain what the hot box would do to your television reception (and possibly
reception on lots of other consumer level entertainment equipment).

And stop crying about "it's illegal!". If I want to get out, I'll get out
weather you like it or not. Personally, I think to choose to use the
repeater would be more responsible of me and respectful to you as my
neighbor.

But no matter, if
you're into illegal operations, nothing anyone else says will sit well wit
h
you. All I can say is - do it long enough, your turn will come.

I think I'll attract less of Uncle Charlie's attention if I use the repeater
and more if I use the 1200w amp, don't you?

-Dr.X

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"Dr.X" wrote in message
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erio.net...

"Dr.X" wrote in message
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"Jerry" wrote in message
...
http://www.kb8ygc.com/Repeater.pdf

This comes from www.copper.com "forums". Apparently, there is a
"repeater"
for the chicken band on the air. The link at the very top has
pictures,
circuitry and everything! Is this not against the law? .

Jerry

I've made 11 meter repeaters before. If you stay low keyed, you can
get
away
with it for a very long time. Personally I think it's much better than
running a bunch of heat to get out and you're not splattering the crap
out
of your neighbors if you're accessing it from your home. Worked great
with
a
HH too but I had to make the encoder inside a large mobile mic since I
couldn't fit it into the radio shack hh at the time.

-Dr.X



Do you also drive at 100 MPH because it's illegal to do so and you've
done
it before? People who always break the rules are partially responsible
for
yet more being imposed. Rules are made for a reason. And no, it isn't to
be
broken....

NS

If you're going to use that analogy, then make it a little more realistic.
Using a repeater on 11 meters is more like driving 5 MPH over the speed
limit. I guess you would rather have folks driving near hospitals with
1200
watt splatter boxes stopping hart monitors just so they can be heard.

-Dr.X



The whole point WAS.... Do you do it because it is ILLEGAL? Driving faster
than the speed limit allows - regardless if 5 or 100, linear amps, etc...
ALL are illegal, so is that why you do it? ANY analogy could be used in this
case. IF it is illegal, it is illegal - regardless what the situation is
which is against the laws of the land. As for comparing the damage done in
going 100 mph as opposed to a CB repeater... Maybe there isn't any
comparison in that regard, BUT again BOTH are illegal. No, I wouldn't want
people driving past Hospitals with 1200W splatter boxes, silly statement -
they're not legal anyhow. SO that analogy sucks as bad as you think mine
did. Besides, they won't "stop" a heart monitor. Maybe interfere. A "heart
monitor" won't "stop" the heart, it merely reads the heart rhythm and allows
the staff to see how the patient is doing. RF in close proximity may
interfere with a Pacer, but I'm not so sure a 1200 watt radio going down the
road will do it. It is more like Microwave ovens up close, some other forms
of RF at high density, like Radar System. Cell phones are even thought to
do it - in some cases. I'm sure there are 1500 watt Ham stations within
proximity to some hospitals with no mention of problems. But no matter, if
you're into illegal operations, nothing anyone else says will sit well with
you. All I can say is - do it long enough, your turn will come.

NS

Exactly. This is the keyclown mentality. The self centeredness of
keyclowns is well documented, and they try any verbal trickery they
can think up in an effort to justify their keyclownism.

Personally, don't like em'. Ruins the fun of dx.....It's just like the
hammies getting all up on that internet repeater crap. What fun/challenge
is that?

Oh well, different strokes:-)

Don

"Dr.X" wrote in message
...
"Jerry" wrote in message
...
http://www.kb8ygc.com/Repeater.pdf

This comes from www.copper.com "forums". Apparently, there is a
"repeater"
for the chicken band on the air. The link at the very top has pictures,
circuitry and everything! Is this not against the law? .

Jerry

I've made 11 meter repeaters before. If you stay low keyed, you can get
away
with it for a very long time. Personally I think it's much better than
running a bunch of heat to get out and you're not splattering the crap out
of your neighbors if you're accessing it from your home. Worked great with
a
HH too but I had to make the encoder inside a large mobile mic since I
couldn't fit it into the radio shack hh at the time.

-Dr.X

"Dr.X" wrote in message
...
"Jerry" wrote in message
...
http://www.kb8ygc.com/Repeater.pdf

This comes from www.copper.com "forums". Apparently, there is a
"repeater"
for the chicken band on the air. The link at the very top has pictures,
circuitry and everything! Is this not against the law? .

Jerry

I've made 11 meter repeaters before. If you stay low keyed, you can get
away
with it for a very long time. Personally I think it's much better than
running a bunch of heat to get out and you're not splattering the crap
out
of your neighbors if you're accessing it from your home. Worked great
with
a
HH too but I had to make the encoder inside a large mobile mic since I
couldn't fit it into the radio shack hh at the time.

-Dr.X


"M-Tech" wrote in message
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Personally, don't like em'. Ruins the fun of dx.....It's just like the
hammies getting all up on that internet repeater crap. What fun/challenge
is that?

Oh well, different strokes:-)

Don

Well, I've never tried using one for dx. I'd rather do that without any
help. The repeater was just for getting mobiles and hand healds on an equal
playing field with base stations around town. For that, it works great. When
the skip starts rolling, your freind across town isn't going to hear you
while your on a trc-216 even if you have it's antena fully extended.
(unless you connect it to an external antenna and maybe run up some heat).

-Dr.X

Ah...good point.

Don



Well, I've never tried using one for dx. I'd rather do that without any
help. The repeater was just for getting mobiles and hand healds on an
equal
playing field with base stations around town. For that, it works great.
When
the skip starts rolling, your freind across town isn't going to hear you
while your on a trc-216 even if you have it's antena fully extended.
(unless you connect it to an external antenna and maybe run up some heat).

-Dr.X

"Jerry" wrote in message
...
http://www.kb8ygc.com/Repeater.pdf

This comes from www.copper.com "forums". Apparently, there is a
"repeater"
for the chicken band on the air. The link at the very top has pictures,
circuitry and everything! Is this not against the law? .

Jerry

Oh geeze...I just now took a min. to look at this project. I should have
kept quiet. That's no repeater. Store and rebroadcast? I guess it still
qualifies as a repeater since it literally repeats everything, but it sucks.
Who would want that peace of junk? I thought you were talking about relaying
in real time like a normal repeater. In this case, I wouldn't even bother
with such a device.

-Dr.X (hmph!)

"Jerry" wrote:
http://www.kb8ygc.com/Repeater.pdf

This comes from www.copper.com "forums". Apparently, there is a
"repeater" for the chicken band on the air. The link at the very top has
pictures, circuitry and everything! Is this not against the law? .

Jerry

Who cares? They suck used cock anyway. click-click