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Old September 27th 04, 09:48 PM
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Did I ever show you the pic of my Charger winning the burnout contest?
http://img8.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img8&image=mobmain.jpg
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How did all that white smoke come about with no pavement? Super cool
photo!

Hi Twist, the back tires are on a big ole steel plate that has been
watered down right before the burnout..there's no traction at all.

Speaking of pics, my buddy was here form West Palm (evacuee from Jeanne)
and when the damn storm came here (we are still without electric and I'm
on a generator so I probably won't be around again until the electric
gets turned on) he took some super pics of the palm trees on my property
during the eye-wall. When he gets back home and sends them to me, I'll
post them.

Cool, do you have a generator down there for when you lose power?
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Old September 28th 04, 05:43 PM
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Did I ever show you the pic of my Charger winning the burnout contest?
http://img8.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img8&image=mobmain.jpg
_
How did all that white smoke come about with no pavement? Super cool
photo!
_

(Hi Twist, the back tires are on a big ole steel plate that has been
watered down right before the burnout..there's no traction at all.)




Ha,,,,,betcha that smelled like, like,,,,,,big fun. Only thing missing
was the RF drag race on another launching pad.


_
Speaking of pics, my buddy was here form West Palm (evacuee from Jeanne)
and when the damn storm came here (we are still without electric and I'm
on a generator so I probably won't be around again until the electric
gets turned on) he took some super pics of the palm trees on my property
during the eye-wall. When he gets back home and sends them to me, I'll
post them.

_
(Cool, do you have a generator down there for when you lose power?
_
Absolutely. Using a Troy-Built now..only 3550 watts, 6.75 HP....but it's
plenty enough to run the fridge, clothes washer, big screen (wife can't
do without her 24 hour local news channel), box fan, cb/hammie radio and
the most important of all,,,,,the coffee maker in the morning.I'm going
to buy a quieter (and larger) Honda model in the future, maybe a prtable
A/C unit, too. This Troy-Bilt is way too loud. Kind of neat when a large
load is placed on it though, it never chugs, just "shifts gears" by
changing the pitch of the engine. It delivers excellent performance..too
bad it wasn't quieter. BTW, our power was restored late last night,,many
still without power.

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Old September 29th 04, 02:06 AM
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On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 23:16:11 GMT, "I am not george,
itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge are morons!"
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On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 11:43:37 -0400, (Twistedhed)
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.....I'm going
to buy a quieter (and larger) Honda model in the future, maybe a prtable
A/C unit, too. This Troy-Bilt is way too loud.



Just a suggestion: Shop around carefully for a generator. Most of the
'portables' and many of the commercial gensets on the market are junk.


Why is that Frank? Are they way overrated for continuous duty? Too much
heat? What? I've not maxed one out enough to have a failure, but was
wondering what to watch for.



Well, the worst I've seen are some of the Colemans with the plastic
end-bell, which is about as dumb as AMC's plastic valve cover, and
with more destructive results (got a B&S in the garage from a Coleman
with a shattered rod, bent crankshaft and the cam snapped in half).
Some brushless heads have problems due to less-than-robust rectifiers
in the rotors, which are a bitch to replace. Some seemingly high-end
generators are mated to motors that are not designed for such use.
Some have poor regulation, some have proprietary connectors, some have
limited voltage configurations, etc, etc, etc. What I'm saying is that
if you are going to buy a generator, do your homework first or you are
likely to have problems.







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Old September 29th 04, 02:10 AM
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itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge are morons!"
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"Frank Gilliland" wrote in message
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On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 11:43:37 -0400, (Twistedhed)
wrote in :

snip
.....I'm going
to buy a quieter (and larger) Honda model in the future, maybe a prtable
A/C unit, too. This Troy-Bilt is way too loud.


Just a suggestion: Shop around carefully for a generator. Most of the
'portables' and many of the commercial gensets on the market are junk.


Why is that Frank? Are they way overrated for continuous duty? Too much
heat? What? I've not maxed one out enough to have a failure, but was
wondering what to watch for.



Well, the worst I've seen are some of the Colemans with the plastic
end-bell, which is about as dumb as AMC's plastic valve cover, and
with more destructive results (got a B&S in the garage from a Coleman
with a shattered rod, bent crankshaft and the cam snapped in half).
Some brushless heads have problems due to less-than-robust rectifiers
in the rotors, which are a bitch to replace. Some seemingly high-end
generators are mated to motors that are not designed for such use.
Some have poor regulation, some have proprietary connectors, some have
limited voltage configurations, etc, etc, etc. What I'm saying is that
if you are going to buy a generator, do your homework first or you are
likely to have problems.




Suggestions on better models? I have a really old Pincor with almost no
regulation, and was thinking I may replace it with a better model so that I
can feel a bit more comfortable plugging electronics into it. I always check
this old thing with a voltmeter to make sure it's not overvolting.


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Old September 29th 04, 02:50 AM
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AKC Supreme Being wrote:

"Frank Gilliland" wrote in message
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On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 23:16:11 GMT, "I am not george,
itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge are morons!"
wrote in :


"Frank Gilliland" wrote in message
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On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 11:43:37 -0400, (Twistedhed)
wrote in :

snip

.....I'm going
to buy a quieter (and larger) Honda model in the future, maybe a prtable
A/C unit, too. This Troy-Bilt is way too loud.


Just a suggestion: Shop around carefully for a generator. Most of the
'portables' and many of the commercial gensets on the market are junk.

Why is that Frank? Are they way overrated for continuous duty? Too much
heat? What? I've not maxed one out enough to have a failure, but was
wondering what to watch for.



Well, the worst I've seen are some of the Colemans with the plastic
end-bell, which is about as dumb as AMC's plastic valve cover, and
with more destructive results (got a B&S in the garage from a Coleman
with a shattered rod, bent crankshaft and the cam snapped in half).
Some brushless heads have problems due to less-than-robust rectifiers
in the rotors, which are a bitch to replace. Some seemingly high-end
generators are mated to motors that are not designed for such use.
Some have poor regulation, some have proprietary connectors, some have
limited voltage configurations, etc, etc, etc. What I'm saying is that
if you are going to buy a generator, do your homework first or you are
likely to have problems.





Suggestions on better models? I have a really old Pincor with almost no
regulation, and was thinking I may replace it with a better model so that I
can feel a bit more comfortable plugging electronics into it. I always check
this old thing with a voltmeter to make sure it's not overvolting.


just saw consumer reports ratings for generators and their highest
rating for 3-4 kw rigs is a honda eu3000is. 4.5-7 kw is a generac.
the best buy in the latter is the troy built but it does mention the
noise problem. hth...
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Old September 29th 04, 05:02 AM
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"Frank Gilliland" wrote in message
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On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 23:16:11 GMT, "I am not george,
itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge are morons!"
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"Frank Gilliland" wrote in message
news On Tue, 28 Sep 2004 11:43:37 -0400, (Twistedhed)
wrote in :

snip
.....I'm going
to buy a quieter (and larger) Honda model in the future, maybe a prtable
A/C unit, too. This Troy-Bilt is way too loud.


Just a suggestion: Shop around carefully for a generator. Most of the
'portables' and many of the commercial gensets on the market are junk.

Why is that Frank? Are they way overrated for continuous duty? Too much
heat? What? I've not maxed one out enough to have a failure, but was
wondering what to watch for.



Well, the worst I've seen are some of the Colemans with the plastic
end-bell, which is about as dumb as AMC's plastic valve cover, and
with more destructive results (got a B&S in the garage from a Coleman
with a shattered rod, bent crankshaft and the cam snapped in half).
Some brushless heads have problems due to less-than-robust rectifiers
in the rotors, which are a bitch to replace. Some seemingly high-end
generators are mated to motors that are not designed for such use.
Some have poor regulation, some have proprietary connectors, some have
limited voltage configurations, etc, etc, etc. What I'm saying is that
if you are going to buy a generator, do your homework first or you are
likely to have problems.




Suggestions on better models? I have a really old Pincor with almost no
regulation, and was thinking I may replace it with a better model so that I
can feel a bit more comfortable plugging electronics into it. I always check
this old thing with a voltmeter to make sure it's not overvolting.



There is a hard-drive full of generator FAQs on the net, as well as
thousands of posts telling of personal experiences with various makes
and models. So I won't even try to make a list. But there are a few
things I have learned over the years:


Electric start is nice, but make sure it has a backup starting method.

A 4-pole generator runs at 1800 rpm which effectivley quadruples the
engine life over 2-pole generators, which run at 3600 rpm.

If the rotor is a brush-type, make sure it uses 4 brushes. Many
generators only have 2 brushes which makes for lots of RFI.

Some generators (especially brushless generators) are regulated only
by the speed of the motor. That's fine if you only want to run power
tools and light bulbs.

Make sure the motor has a pressurized oil system w/filter. Otherwise
you will have to change the oil every 8-10 hours. It also increases
the life of the motor by at least 10 times.

This may not be easy, but try to find a generator head that has two
seperate 115VAC windings (4-wire) as opposed to a center-tapped single
230VAC winding (3-wires). Suppose the generator has two outputs for
20A @ 115VAC. If it's a 4-wire generator you can parallel the two
115VAC windings for a total of 40A from a single output. This is
important because it will provide more surge current for things like
electric motors in freezers, washing machines, etc, which need lots of
starting current or they will burn out from slow starts (leaving the
generator to run happily along as if it wasn't responsible). But if
it's a 3-wire generator, you're stuck with 20A and run the risk of
burning up your furnace blower motor (ask me how I know!).

Keep a stock of spare parts, especially the brushes, bearings, diodes,
capacitors and filters. That way you can fix it when you -need- to fix
it, not when the hardware store opens back up after power is restored.
If these parts aren't available when you buy the generator, don't buy
it.

One more thing: Run it once in a while! Too many people run their
generators once, put them in the garage for months or even years, then
pull them out to find that the battery has solidified into a beautiful
blue-green mass of crystals, or the motor is frozen, or the carb is
gummed up because they didn't drain the bowl.






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Any suggestions? What say you of the Honda's? I like the Troy-Bilt but
its way too loud.
Yea, I got it,,,,,as I said, I'm slammed right now, but I most certainly
am going to do some digging when I'm caught up,,,,probably another week
or two.

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Did I ever show you the pic of my Charger winning the burnout contest?
http://img8.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img8&image=mobmain.jpg
_
How did all that white smoke come about with no pavement? Super cool
photo!
_

(Hi Twist, the back tires are on a big ole steel plate that has been
watered down right before the burnout..there's no traction at all.)

Ha,,,,,betcha that smelled like, like,,,,,,big fun. Only thing missing
was the RF drag race on another launching pad.

_
Speaking of pics, my buddy was here form West Palm (evacuee from Jeanne)
and when the damn storm came here (we are still without electric and I'm
on a generator so I probably won't be around again until the electric
gets turned on) he took some super pics of the palm trees on my property
during the eye-wall. When he gets back home and sends them to me, I'll
post them.

_
(Cool, do you have a generator down there for when you lose power?
_
Absolutely. Using a Troy-Built now..only 3550 watts, 6.75 HP....but it's
plenty enough to run the fridge, clothes washer, big screen (wife can't
do without her 24 hour local news channel), box fan, cb/hammie radio and
the most important of all,,,,,the coffee maker in the morning.I'm going
to buy a quieter (and larger) Honda model in the future, maybe a prtable
A/C unit, too. This Troy-Bilt is way too loud. Kind of neat when a large
load is placed on it though, it never chugs, just "shifts gears" by
changing the pitch of the engine. It delivers excellent performance..too
bad it wasn't quieter. BTW, our power was restored late last night,,many
still without power.

Yea, I have a 5K that is really LOUD! It works fine but you can't be
near it because of the noise. My friend had a Honda at the Bristol
Nascar race that we ran 3 campers off of. You could sit right next
to that thing it was so quiet. Really a nice unit.

Glad you got your power back.


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