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Old October 11th 04, 05:02 PM
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On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 11:18:26 -0400, (Twistedhed)
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Subject: Fwd: Doug, can you please stop ?
From:
(Lancer)
On Sat, 09 Oct 2004 18:26:57 GMT, "JASON WILLIAMS"
wrote:
I joined this ng because it said cb. all i have read is about illegal
this and illegal that. Its only illegal if or when u are caught. If hams
want to join in, why dont they help the so called uneducated, gain the
confidence to apply for a licence. But no all I read is a bunch of
boring so called know alls bleat on about how crap cb radio is.(CB -
Citizens Band) Get it!
_
Â*Â*If you profess to know all, how can you learn. Nuff said all
108YQ01 - Jason - Professional
_
Lancer wrote:
11m Pirate..... Get lost Jason. Take your


pirate bull**** elsewhere. "Lancer" wrote in message

.. .
Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Doug;
Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*There a quite a few users of this group that
want to discuss legal CB usage. Antenna istallations, which CB is the
best to buy etc.
Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*I know you are really trying to stop lillegal CB
mod's. Â* Â* Which I agree with, but please stop the posts that have
nothing
to do with Radio?
_
Sorry Jason;

Â*
Yet, you never tire of that state (being sorry).


Â*Â*
Â*Â*
Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Its illegal if you use it.



Not to discuss it.


I never said otherwise.


Not if you get


caught.



Still legal and perfectly accfeptable to discuss and exchange the
information.


I also never said otherwise. Quit trying to put words in other
peoples mouths and form your own thoughts.


If you ask a question about how to


mod your radio, or hook an amp up, your in


the wrong group.



No, he is in the right group, as many can answer the question and it is
not illegal to share information, it's merely folly to watch ignoramus'
like yourself jump up and down and hold their breath and claim "this
information will not be permitted"..

I'll be a quick as anyone else to share what I


have learned, but I won't advise you on mods


or amps.



All the better, as there are much more informed, educated, and
communicatively skilled ops in here compared to yourself. These ops are
able to comprehend the sharing and exchange of information is prefectly
acceptable and legal. Your posts are examples you are unable to
comprehend such simple facts of the world regarding the internet and the
FC and the United States and freedom to do so, which places you near the
bottom of the ranking percentile of intelligence that frequent this
group.


As you have proven about yourself, with your accusation that I was
Frank because I asked about sal****er fishing. One of your brighter
moments.

You on the other hand have totally demonstrated your knowledge of
electronics. (NOT)


You don't need them,


You don't get to decide for others. Your job is to get mad at yourself
for the lack of status you achieved in life and foster yourself upon
this group as decided by others..


Don't think so, your psyco-babble doesn't work on me. Almost everyone
in this group has control of you. They lead you around like you have
a ring in your nose.



get yourself a good antenna.



Get yourself a life and let go of the tail of others' and stop
illustrating your ignorance in the way of the law regarding the free
exchange of information.


Why don't stop illustrating your ignorance and total lack of
comprehensive capability.

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Old October 11th 04, 11:50 PM
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From: (Lancer)
On Mon, 11 Oct 2004 11:18:26 -0400,
(Twistedhed)
wrote:
Subject: Fwd: Doug, can you please stop ?
From:
(Lancer)
On Sat, 09 Oct 2004 18:26:57 GMT, "JASON WILLIAMS"
wrote:
I joined this ng because it said cb. all i have read is about illegal
this and illegal that. Its only illegal if or when u are caught. If hams
want to join in, why dont they help the so called uneducated, gain the
confidence to apply for a licence. But no all I read is a bunch of
boring so called know alls bleat on about how crap cb radio is.(CB -
Citizens Band) Get it!
_
=C2=A0=C2=A0If you profess to know all, how can you learn. Nuff said all
108YQ01 - Jason - Professional
_
Lancer wrote:
11m Pirate..... Get lost Jason. Take your


pirate bull**** elsewhere. "Lancer" wrote in message

...
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C 2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Do=
ug;
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Th ere a quite a few
users of this group that want to discuss legal CB usage. Antenna
istallations, which CB is the best to buy etc.
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0I know you are really trying to stop
lillegal CB
mod's. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Which I agree with, but please stop the posts that
have
nothing
to do with Radio?
_
Sorry Jason;


=C2=A0


Yet, you never tire of that state (being sorry).

=C2=A0=C2=A0


=C2=A0=C2=A0


=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Its illegal if you use it.



What's up with your incompetence and all the funky characters? Get a
grip.
_
Not to discuss it.

I never said otherwise.



It needed said. Your posts illustrate this an area of which you express
great difficulty.

Not if you get


caught.


Still legal and perfectly accfeptable to discuss and exchange the
information.

I also never said otherwise. Quit trying to put


words in other peoples mouths and form your


own thoughts.




That was you failing at placing words in other's mouths when you
attempted to ASSume status as the group moderator by deluding yourself
that you somehow exert some sort of control over the group, IE, telling
someone what they may or may not discuss in regards to what you
ignorantly but laughlingly regard as radio legalities and B) telling
another this the "wrong" group to ask about amps or mods because you are
can't get past yourself.,,this more than likely stems from the world
realizing you a voodoo technician over the last year or so.


If you ask a question about how to


mod your radio, or hook an amp up, your in


the wrong group.


No, he is in the right group, as many can answer the question and it is
not illegal to share information, it's merely folly to watch ignoramus'
like yourself jump up and down and hold their breath and claim "this
information will not be permitted"..

I'll be a quick as anyone else to share what I


have learned, but I won't advise you on mods


or amps.


All the better, as there are much more informed, educated, and
communicatively skilled ops in here compared to yourself. These ops are
able to comprehend the sharing and exchange of information is prefectly
acceptable and legal. Your posts are examples you are unable to
comprehend such simple facts of the world regarding the internet, the
FCC, the free and unfettered exchange of information, the United States
and the freedom to do so, which places you near the bottom of the
ranking percentile of intelligence that frequent this group.

As you have proven about yourself,



Invoction of another as a means of obfuscating your incomptence has
failed for you so often, I am surprised to see you still failing with
it.


with your accusation that I was Frank because
I asked about sal****er fishing.



Check your retainment ability,..it's lacking and incorrect,,,,again.
Base it on your identity compulsion.

One of your brighter moments.




You on the other hand have totally


demonstrated your knowledge of electronics.


Only you seem to think so..,,yet, fret not, ,,you won't be called upon
to produce any post or anything that would actually provide for your
personal problems. You've been schooled.
Anyways, that's ok. My knowledge of radio law, proper communications
(something of which *you* have demonstrated *your* lack of skill) and
public address more than makes up for what I lack in electronics.



(NOT)



What a malady you suffer,,,,ongoing seer.


You don't need them,


You don't get to decide for others. Your job is to get mad at yourself
for the lack of status you achieved in life and foster yourself upon
this group as decided by others..

Don't think so,


your psyco-babble doesn't work on me.



The fact remains, you don't get to decide what is acceptable discussion.
Deal with it.

Almost everyone in this group has control of


you. They lead you around like you have a


ring in your nose.



You, and whoever this "they" is you appointed yourself spokesperson as,
can't even figure out who it is you're talking to.

get yourself a good antenna.


Get yourself a life and let go of the tail of others' and stop
illustrating your ignorance in the way of the law regarding the free
exchange of information.

Why don't stop illustrating your ignorance and


total lack of comprehensive capability.


I'm not the one self-deluding myself and fancying myself the group
moderator,,,you are, swee pea. Fact remains, you don't get to decide
what is acceptable topic. The sooner you can accept reality and stop
deluding yourself, the faster you can heal and stop hating yourself.

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Old October 9th 04, 11:22 PM
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On Sat, 09 Oct 2004 18:26:57 GMT, "JASON WILLIAMS"
wrote in
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I joined this ng because it said cb. all i have read is about illegal this
and illegal that. Its only illegal if or when u are caught.



That excuse has already been thoroughly discredited in this newsgroup.


If hams want to
join in, why dont they help the so called uneducated, gain the confidence to
apply for a licence.



Ham licenses are practically given away. All you need to do is take a
test, but the questions for the test come from a question pool that
the FCC makes public -- you already have the answers. And it costs
about as much as a happy meal. How much confidence does one need?


But no all I read is a bunch of boring so called know
alls bleat on about how crap cb radio is.(CB - Citizens Band) Get it!



Yes, I get it -- Citizen's Band -- not Criminal's Band, or Children's
Band, or I-want-to-be-a-ham-but-don't-have-the-confidence Band, or
It's-not-illegal-until-you-get-caught Band.


If you profess to know all, how can you learn.



Learn what? Many excuses for operating illegally have been presented
in this newsgroup, but none of them have held up under scrutiny. If
you have one that can, I'm perfectly willing to hear it.

And don't get me wrong -- I'm no goodie-two-shoes, and I have just as
much disdain for the FCC as anyone else here, maybe even more. But I
need a damn good reason if I'm going to violate federal laws and risk
a fine of several thousand dollars and/or time in federal prison.

So my mind is open to learn -- what do you have to teach me, Jason?







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Old October 10th 04, 04:28 PM
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Look, no offense, the only thing that's been "discredited" in this group in
the last 2 months (since I've been here anyway)is the fact that the hams (or
those professed to be so) are a bunch of whining azzholes. Some, including
yourself, add MUCH needed tech/help. But MOST hams are only here for ONE
purpose, to disrupt the group.....

Legal or illegal makes no difference to me.....since the group *is*
rec.radio.cb. Not legal.cb/illegal.cb or HAM. It's also NOT up to the
group to determine what's legal/illegal imho. We already have a FCC to do
this. Geez, the population of the cb'er is so damn small I can't believe
hams actually waste their time bitching about it. Back in the 70's-80's,
that was a different story.

I'd rather read "illegal" cb crap than the disgusting remarks made by
alledged hams. I condone neither....but the latter has NOTHING to do with
"cb".

There is NO excuse for operating ANYTHING illegally...there's also NO excuse
for a ham to come to a "cb group" and state the obvious....other than the
fact that the ones who do, are bigger keyclowns than the ones they profess
to police. Just look at the damned posts???? Disgusting representation of
hams I'd say.

Don


"Frank Gilliland" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 09 Oct 2004 18:26:57 GMT, "JASON WILLIAMS"
wrote in
:

I joined this ng because it said cb. all i have read is about illegal this
and illegal that. Its only illegal if or when u are caught.



That excuse has already been thoroughly discredited in this newsgroup.


If hams want to
join in, why dont they help the so called uneducated, gain the confidence
to
apply for a licence.



Ham licenses are practically given away. All you need to do is take a
test, but the questions for the test come from a question pool that
the FCC makes public -- you already have the answers. And it costs
about as much as a happy meal. How much confidence does one need?


But no all I read is a bunch of boring so called know
alls bleat on about how crap cb radio is.(CB - Citizens Band) Get it!



Yes, I get it -- Citizen's Band -- not Criminal's Band, or Children's
Band, or I-want-to-be-a-ham-but-don't-have-the-confidence Band, or
It's-not-illegal-until-you-get-caught Band.


If you profess to know all, how can you learn.



Learn what? Many excuses for operating illegally have been presented
in this newsgroup, but none of them have held up under scrutiny. If
you have one that can, I'm perfectly willing to hear it.

And don't get me wrong -- I'm no goodie-two-shoes, and I have just as
much disdain for the FCC as anyone else here, maybe even more. But I
need a damn good reason if I'm going to violate federal laws and risk
a fine of several thousand dollars and/or time in federal prison.

So my mind is open to learn -- what do you have to teach me, Jason?







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"M-Tech" wrote in message
...
Look, no offense, the only thing that's been "discredited" in this group
in the last 2 months (since I've been here anyway)is the fact that the
hams (or those professed to be so) are a bunch of whining azzholes. Some,
including yourself, add MUCH needed tech/help. But MOST hams are only
here for ONE purpose, to disrupt the group.....

Legal or illegal makes no difference to me.....since the group *is*
rec.radio.cb. Not legal.cb/illegal.cb or HAM. It's also NOT up to the
group to determine what's legal/illegal imho. We already have a FCC to do
this. Geez, the population of the cb'er is so damn small I can't believe
hams actually waste their time bitching about it. Back in the 70's-80's,
that was a different story.

I'd rather read "illegal" cb crap than the disgusting remarks made by
alledged hams. I condone neither....but the latter has NOTHING to do with
"cb".

There is NO excuse for operating ANYTHING illegally...there's also NO
excuse for a ham to come to a "cb group" and state the obvious....other
than the fact that the ones who do, are bigger keyclowns than the ones
they profess to police. Just look at the damned posts???? Disgusting
representation of hams I'd say.

Don



Actually it has nothing at all to do with Ham vs CB'r, it's
just a plain out right troll problem.

Landshark


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Oh please. The TROLLS are hams...or alledged to be anyway. How can you say
it has nothing to do with CB vs HAM?? Every disgusting, filth-laced post
I've read is from a disgruntled ham and aimed at a cb'er. You think it's
cb'ers calling cb'ers "keyclowns"??? You think it's cb'ers who are bitching
about the 15% of the posts that deal with illegal cb stuff?

Ah screw it. It's not worth my time anyway....I'll just fire up the filters
and hopefully share idea's/solutions with people who have an interest in cb
other than running it down...or playing keyboard commando/federal agent.

Don

"Landshark" wrote in message
m...

"M-Tech" wrote in message
...
Look, no offense, the only thing that's been "discredited" in this group
in the last 2 months (since I've been here anyway)is the fact that the
hams (or those professed to be so) are a bunch of whining azzholes.
Some, including yourself, add MUCH needed tech/help. But MOST hams are
only here for ONE purpose, to disrupt the group.....

Legal or illegal makes no difference to me.....since the group *is*
rec.radio.cb. Not legal.cb/illegal.cb or HAM. It's also NOT up to the
group to determine what's legal/illegal imho. We already have a FCC to
do this. Geez, the population of the cb'er is so damn small I can't
believe hams actually waste their time bitching about it. Back in the
70's-80's, that was a different story.

I'd rather read "illegal" cb crap than the disgusting remarks made by
alledged hams. I condone neither....but the latter has NOTHING to do
with "cb".

There is NO excuse for operating ANYTHING illegally...there's also NO
excuse for a ham to come to a "cb group" and state the obvious....other
than the fact that the ones who do, are bigger keyclowns than the ones
they profess to police. Just look at the damned posts???? Disgusting
representation of hams I'd say.

Don



Actually it has nothing at all to do with Ham vs CB'r, it's
just a plain out right troll problem.

Landshark


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On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 11:28:36 -0400, "M-Tech"
wrote in :

Look, no offense, the only thing that's been "discredited" in this group in
the last 2 months (since I've been here anyway)is the fact that the hams (or
those professed to be so) are a bunch of whining azzholes. Some, including
yourself, add MUCH needed tech/help. But MOST hams are only here for ONE
purpose, to disrupt the group.....



Let's get a few things straight: First, I'm not a ham. Second, there
are plenty of hams in this newsgroup that are illegal operators.
Third, trolling doesn't require a ham license, nor does it require a
position on the legal/illegal issues. Fourth, CB radio doesn't exclude
hams, and many hams are also CB radio operators.

Trolls are trolls, hams are hams, and CBers are CBers. This is true
regardless of which group they claim to represent, regardless of their
stance on illegal operation, and regardless of the fact that there
will always be a few malcontents that will try to make everyone else's
life as miserable as their own. If you can't make these distinctions
then you might as well start trolling now because that's what you will
end up doing later on.






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"Frank Gilliland" wrote in message
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On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 11:28:36 -0400, "M-Tech"
wrote in :

Look, no offense, the only thing that's been "discredited" in this group
in
the last 2 months (since I've been here anyway)is the fact that the hams
(or
those professed to be so) are a bunch of whining azzholes. Some,
including
yourself, add MUCH needed tech/help. But MOST hams are only here for ONE
purpose, to disrupt the group.....



Let's get a few things straight: First, I'm not a ham.


Thought I read you were..np.

Second, there
are plenty of hams in this newsgroup that are illegal operators.


Don't care, didn't comment...none of my business(which is part of my point)

Third, trolling doesn't require a ham license, nor does it require a
position on the legal/illegal issues.


Didn't say it did required a license. I said the alledged HAMS in this ng
are the ones MAKING the problems. FACT.

Fourth, CB radio doesn't exclude
hams, and many hams are also CB radio operators.


Didn't say it did/didn't. Made no comment.

Trolls are trolls, hams are hams, and CBers are CBers. This is true
regardless of which group they claim to represent, regardless of their
stance on illegal operation, and regardless of the fact that there
will always be a few malcontents that will try to make everyone else's
life as miserable as their own. If you can't make these distinctions
then you might as well start trolling now because that's what you will
end up doing later on.


Blah, blah, look, maybe you missed my point or I wasn't clear. I'm damn
positive that cb'ers are cb'ers and hams are hams!! I'm also positive that
trolls are trolls....but thanks for pointing out the obvious. MY POINT was
that so far, the trolls seem to be hams that are doing NOTHING but shaking a
hornets nest in regards to what's legal/illegal, name-calling and just
general disruption of rec.radio.CB. And I CAN AND DID make the friggin'
distinction!! I'm the one saying the disgruntled hams are causing the
trouble!! How could I possibly make that point MORE distinct?

And I won't "end up trolling", Dr Crane....but I appreciate the online
psychological exam all the same. I'm just glad I didn't pay for it:-).

Don









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is that the best you can do monketyboy?

"Lancer" wrote in message
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Doug;
There a quite a few users of this group that want to discuss legal
CB usage. Antenna istallations, which CB is the best to buy etc.
I know you are really trying to stop lillegal CB mod's.
Which I agree with, but please stop the posts that have nothing
to do with Radio?



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Lancer wrote in message . ..
Doug;
There a quite a few users of this group that want to discuss legal
CB usage. Antenna istallations, which CB is the best to buy etc.


The posts you are referring to, antenna, legal CB, etc. are non
keyclown posts. AKC respects this as a no-fly zone unless it is being
used by keyclowns for the purpose of attack.

I know you are really trying to stop lillegal CB mod's.
Which I agree with,
but please stop the posts that have nothing
to do with Radio?


Why do you only ask Doug to stop?

What about the people posting Crisco Cathy porn, WA3MOJ gay forges, N8
court records, etc. ..........or are these OK with you?


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