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Dave Hall October 29th 04 04:26 PM

On 29 Oct 2004 07:25:32 -0700, (Stephen)
wrote:

No, I meant THE COLONEL, as being seperate from Uncle Charlie. From
what I heard back in those days, THE COLONEL operated some activity on
those basement channels, and when people started going there, it
caused some friction. Thus, the fears and rumors about the COLONEL,
who for some reason was bent on getting anyone who operated on -20 (20
below 1). Midwest. Under the supervision of one of my older CB
friends, who got me started in CB, we got clever and found that by
switching the transmit and receive crystals in our walkie talkies, we
got a quiet and more private channel. Only problem was, according to
his freq counter, we were 20 below 1.

Again, nothing for certain, but it was all the talk of our area back
then...and YES, I did hear activity on that frequency.



I'll bet it was channel 10 crystals that you swapped right?

When you reverse channel 10 walkie talkie crystals, you end up
transmitting on 26.620 Mhz, which used to be very active with the
civil air patrol.

"The Colonel" was probably a bona-fide military official or member of
the Civil Air Patrol........

Dave
"Sandbagger"
http://home.ptd.net/~n3cvj


Cry_Keyclowns_Cry October 29th 04 05:54 PM

"The Colonel" was probably a bona-fide
military official or member of the Civil Air Patrol.......


It is easy to create fear in keyclowns infantile minds hardeeharrhar


M-Tech October 29th 04 10:53 PM

Oh I don't doubt you heard activity on that "channel". But I've never heard
of "the colonel" and I've been in and out of CB since 75!!

It might have been a local trying to mess with people. You said you "heard
him". What did he say? Did he threaten people? Correct people? Or did he
act like an ass like some of the "half-baked-hams" we have on this ng that I
have to re-killfile every 15 minutes?

What message was this "colonel" giving?

Don

"Stephen" wrote in message
om...
No, I meant THE COLONEL, as being seperate from Uncle Charlie. From
what I heard back in those days, THE COLONEL operated some activity on
those basement channels, and when people started going there, it
caused some friction. Thus, the fears and rumors about the COLONEL,
who for some reason was bent on getting anyone who operated on -20 (20
below 1). Midwest. Under the supervision of one of my older CB
friends, who got me started in CB, we got clever and found that by
switching the transmit and receive crystals in our walkie talkies, we
got a quiet and more private channel. Only problem was, according to
his freq counter, we were 20 below 1.

Again, nothing for certain, but it was all the talk of our area back
then...and YES, I did hear activity on that frequency.

-Stephen




Jerry October 29th 04 11:20 PM

How about some up-to-date fears? ;)



** ENFORCEMENT: CB AMP SALE BRINGS $7000 FINE A North Jackson, Ohio
equipment retailer has been dinged with a heavy fine. This for allegedly
selling those illegal 11 meter amplifiers that the C-B crowd calls
footwarmers. The noted violations involve Paladen Communications sale of
external Citizens Band radio frequency power amplifiers. In it's October
21st Forfeiture Order the FCC alleges that Paladen, which does business as
the CB Shop, did willfully and repeatedly violate Section 302(b) of the
Communications Act of 1934 and Sections 2.815(b) and 2.815(c) of the
Commission's Rules by making these units available to the general public.
Paladen was issued the $7,000 fine back on May 27th. The FCC says the
company never responded to the notice. Its now been given 30 days to pay or
face collection proceedings. (FCC) ** ENFORCEMENT: CB OPERATOR FINED $10,000
FOR UNLICENSED OPERATION And using an illegal C-B amplifier will cost a
Washington state operator some really big bucks. This as the FCC fines
Robert A. Spiry of Tacoma 10,000 for what the FCC say was operating a radio
station without Commission authorization. Amateur Radio Newsline's Norm
Seeley, KI7UP, has the details: -- In its letter to Robert A. Spiry, the FCC
claims that it found the amplifier as part of a follow-up investigation.
This, after receiving numerous complaints from Spiry's neighbors. On March
13th, April 2nd, October 29th and November 5th of 2002, agents from the
Commission's Seattle, Washington Field Office concluded that the
interference resulted from 11 meter transmissions originating from Spiry's
residence and from his mobile station in his vehicle. During station
inspections conducted on April 2nd and November 5th, 2002, the Seattle
Office agents determined that Spiry was operating transmitters that were not
FCC certified and that he was operating with a linear amplifier attached to
his CB radio transmitter. Spiry was advised that his use of unauthorized and
non- certified equipment voided his blanket authority to operate his CB
station. Nevertheless, the FCC says that he continued to operate the
unauthorized equipment at the expense of his blanket authorization to
operate his CB radio station. On December 30th, 2002, the Seattle Office
issued a Notice of Apparent Liability for Monetary Forfeiture in the amount
of $10,000 to Spiry. In other words, a $10,000 fine. In his January 15, 2003
response Spiry did not dispute the facts that lead to the fine. Instead he
stated that he had ceased CB radio transmissions and had obtained an amateur
radio license. The FCC database lists him as holding a Technician class
license with the call sign KD7TRB. He also claimed to have removed his CB
radio antenna and asserted that he was unaware that the amount of the
forfeiture could be so high. He told the FCC that he was unable to pay that
amount. But in affirming the fine the FCC refers Spiry to Section 301 of the
Communications Act. It says that no person shall use or operate any
apparatus for the transmission of energy or communications or signals by
radio within the United States without a proper license. The FCC says that
Spiry's 2002 operation of his CB radio station with transmitters that were
not FCC certified and use of a linear amplifier constitutes repeated
violations. It also notes that his taking down the C-B antenna and getting a
ham radio ticket are not sufficient actions to negate the punishment for the
original offenses. The FCC says that Robert Spiry has not provided it with
adequate financial information from which to determine his ability to pay
the forfeiture. Based on this lack of information cancellation or reduction
of the $10,000 fine is not warranted and that it stands as is.



For the Amateur Radio Newsline, Norm Seeley, KI7UP, Scottsdale, Arizona. --
Spiry was given the usual 30 days to pay. If he fails to do so the FCC says
that the matter may be turned over to the Department of Justice for further
action. (FCC)

(Reckon he got his license hoping to avoid prosecution?)
NOT!!!


J



Steveo October 30th 04 12:11 AM

Isn't that special..Oxendine and Adair post the same article within minutes
of each other. Hey Jerry, taks Dougs dick out of your ass, loser.


"Jerry" wrote:
How about some up-to-date fears? ;)

** ENFORCEMENT: CB AMP SALE BRINGS $7000 FINE A North Jackson, Ohio
equipment retailer has been dinged with a heavy fine. This for allegedly
selling those illegal 11 meter amplifiers that the C-B crowd calls
footwarmers. The noted violations involve Paladen Communications sale of
external Citizens Band radio frequency power amplifiers. In it's October
21st Forfeiture Order the FCC alleges that Paladen, which does business
as the CB Shop, did willfully and repeatedly violate Section 302(b) of
the Communications Act of 1934 and Sections 2.815(b) and 2.815(c) of the
Commission's Rules by making these units available to the general public.
Paladen was issued the $7,000 fine back on May 27th. The FCC says the
company never responded to the notice. Its now been given 30 days to pay
or face collection proceedings. (FCC) ** ENFORCEMENT: CB OPERATOR FINED
$10,000 FOR UNLICENSED OPERATION And using an illegal C-B amplifier will
cost a Washington state operator some really big bucks. This as the FCC
fines Robert A. Spiry of Tacoma 10,000 for what the FCC say was operating
a radio station without Commission authorization. Amateur Radio
Newsline's Norm Seeley, KI7UP, has the details: -- In its letter to
Robert A. Spiry, the FCC claims that it found the amplifier as part of a
follow-up investigation. This, after receiving numerous complaints from
Spiry's neighbors. On March 13th, April 2nd, October 29th and November
5th of 2002, agents from the Commission's Seattle, Washington Field
Office concluded that the interference resulted from 11 meter
transmissions originating from Spiry's residence and from his mobile
station in his vehicle. During station inspections conducted on April 2nd
and November 5th, 2002, the Seattle Office agents determined that Spiry
was operating transmitters that were not FCC certified and that he was
operating with a linear amplifier attached to his CB radio transmitter.
Spiry was advised that his use of unauthorized and non- certified
equipment voided his blanket authority to operate his CB station.
Nevertheless, the FCC says that he continued to operate the unauthorized
equipment at the expense of his blanket authorization to operate his CB
radio station. On December 30th, 2002, the Seattle Office issued a Notice
of Apparent Liability for Monetary Forfeiture in the amount of $10,000 to
Spiry. In other words, a $10,000 fine. In his January 15, 2003 response
Spiry did not dispute the facts that lead to the fine. Instead he stated
that he had ceased CB radio transmissions and had obtained an amateur
radio license. The FCC database lists him as holding a Technician class
license with the call sign KD7TRB. He also claimed to have removed his CB
radio antenna and asserted that he was unaware that the amount of the
forfeiture could be so high. He told the FCC that he was unable to pay
that amount. But in affirming the fine the FCC refers Spiry to Section
301 of the Communications Act. It says that no person shall use or
operate any apparatus for the transmission of energy or communications or
signals by radio within the United States without a proper license. The
FCC says that Spiry's 2002 operation of his CB radio station with
transmitters that were not FCC certified and use of a linear amplifier
constitutes repeated violations. It also notes that his taking down the
C-B antenna and getting a ham radio ticket are not sufficient actions to
negate the punishment for the original offenses. The FCC says that Robert
Spiry has not provided it with adequate financial information from which
to determine his ability to pay the forfeiture. Based on this lack of
information cancellation or reduction of the $10,000 fine is not
warranted and that it stands as is.

For the Amateur Radio Newsline, Norm Seeley, KI7UP, Scottsdale, Arizona.
-- Spiry was given the usual 30 days to pay. If he fails to do so the FCC
says that the matter may be turned over to the Department of Justice for
further action. (FCC)

(Reckon he got his license hoping to avoid prosecution?)
NOT!!!

J


Stephen October 30th 04 04:26 PM

Hi Don! Thanks for the reply. The "Colonel" used a varierty of
responses when we transmitted down there. Usually, he wanted to know
where we were, and used a tone of voice (very authoritive) that we
were not supposed to be operating on that frequency. We were in our
early teens, so we were worried.

True, he could have been anyone, with any agenda. Besides the local
gossip and chatter about the "Colonel", I did speak to a local HAM
down the street who said that this Colonel was some sort of gov
official, perhaps with the FCC, but as I soon found out, Hams didn't
like us CB-ers much, and of course scolded us when we said what
frequency we operated on.

As for the other reply, asking if we switched channel 10 crystals in
our walkie talkies to get -20, no...it was channel 11. Other brand
walkie talkies didn't give the same results as ours. We found that
out, and I know why that is.

Anyway, thanks everyone for the replies. The Colonel phenomenon was
fascinating, and just one of those early CB experiences that I've
always wondered about.

-Stephen

I Am Not George October 31st 04 06:38 PM

"Jerry" wrote in message t...
How about some up-to-date fears? ;)



** ENFORCEMENT: CB AMP SALE BRINGS $7000 FINE A North Jackson, Ohio
equipment retailer has been dinged with a heavy fine. This for allegedly
selling those illegal 11 meter amplifiers that the C-B crowd calls
footwarmers. The noted violations involve Paladen Communications sale of
external Citizens Band radio frequency power amplifiers. In it's October
21st Forfeiture Order the FCC alleges that Paladen, which does business as
the CB Shop, did willfully and repeatedly violate Section 302(b) of the
Communications Act of 1934 and Sections 2.815(b) and 2.815(c) of the
Commission's Rules by making these units available to the general public.
Paladen was issued the $7,000 fine back on May 27th. The FCC says the
company never responded to the notice. Its now been given 30 days to pay or
face collection proceedings. (FCC) ** ENFORCEMENT: CB OPERATOR FINED $10,000
FOR UNLICENSED OPERATION And using an illegal C-B amplifier will cost a
Washington state operator some really big bucks. This as the FCC fines
Robert A. Spiry of Tacoma 10,000 for what the FCC say was operating a radio
station without Commission authorization. Amateur Radio Newsline's Norm
Seeley, KI7UP, has the details: -- In its letter to Robert A. Spiry, the FCC
claims that it found the amplifier as part of a follow-up investigation.
This, after receiving numerous complaints from Spiry's neighbors. On March
13th, April 2nd, October 29th and November 5th of 2002, agents from the
Commission's Seattle, Washington Field Office concluded that the
interference resulted from 11 meter transmissions originating from Spiry's
residence and from his mobile station in his vehicle. During station
inspections conducted on April 2nd and November 5th, 2002, the Seattle
Office agents determined that Spiry was operating transmitters that were not
FCC certified and that he was operating with a linear amplifier attached to
his CB radio transmitter. Spiry was advised that his use of unauthorized and
non- certified equipment voided his blanket authority to operate his CB
station. Nevertheless, the FCC says that he continued to operate the
unauthorized equipment at the expense of his blanket authorization to
operate his CB radio station. On December 30th, 2002, the Seattle Office
issued a Notice of Apparent Liability for Monetary Forfeiture in the amount
of $10,000 to Spiry. In other words, a $10,000 fine. In his January 15, 2003
response Spiry did not dispute the facts that lead to the fine. Instead he
stated that he had ceased CB radio transmissions and had obtained an amateur
radio license. The FCC database lists him as holding a Technician class
license with the call sign KD7TRB. He also claimed to have removed his CB
radio antenna and asserted that he was unaware that the amount of the
forfeiture could be so high. He told the FCC that he was unable to pay that
amount. But in affirming the fine the FCC refers Spiry to Section 301 of the
Communications Act. It says that no person shall use or operate any
apparatus for the transmission of energy or communications or signals by
radio within the United States without a proper license. The FCC says that
Spiry's 2002 operation of his CB radio station with transmitters that were
not FCC certified and use of a linear amplifier constitutes repeated
violations. It also notes that his taking down the C-B antenna and getting a
ham radio ticket are not sufficient actions to negate the punishment for the
original offenses. The FCC says that Robert Spiry has not provided it with
adequate financial information from which to determine his ability to pay
the forfeiture. Based on this lack of information cancellation or reduction
of the $10,000 fine is not warranted and that it stands as is.



For the Amateur Radio Newsline, Norm Seeley, KI7UP, Scottsdale, Arizona. --
Spiry was given the usual 30 days to pay. If he fails to do so the FCC says
that the matter may be turned over to the Department of Justice for further
action. (FCC)

(Reckon he got his license hoping to avoid prosecution?)
NOT!!!


J



After they caught him keyclowning he got a ham license because he
thought it gave him immunity. It sounds like he was a follower of
Atty. Twistys legal advice ROTFLMAO


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