N8WWM continues to badger people on this forum for their subject choice,
telling them they are illegal. However, when his own hypocritical
behavior is illustrated, N8WWM lies, claiming he never committed any
violations. Well, here is the letter from the FCC not only claiming
Adair committed violations, but also have in their possession taped
recordings of Adair's multiple offenses and violations.
_

Dear Mr. Lagger:
Our records indicate that you are the trustee for the above repeater
system. Enclosed are recordings of violations on the repeater by N8WWM.
The
transmissions continued for a considerable time and there was no
evidence
of a control operator.
Since you are the trustee for the repeater, it is important for you to
understand that you are responsible for its proper operation. The
decision
to operate a repeater is a totally voluntarily one. Repeaters are a
convenience in the Amateur Radio Service, not a necessity. A repeater is
a
station just like any other station; and under Section 97.205 of the
Commission's rules, all stations must have a licensee and control
operator.
Under Sections 97.103(a) and 97.105, control operators must ensure the
immediate proper operation of a station, regardless of the type of
station
control. Furthermore, "automatic" control does not mean "unattended"
operation. Unattended operation is not authorized under the rules.
The repeater licensee/trustee is responsible for all recurring
violations
and violations that are not inadvertent, just as a licensee is
responsible
for a base station HF station operation in the licensee's home. You must
prevent recurring and deliberate violations on the repeater by locking
rule
violators out, using tones, warning users, limiting its operation, or
taking whatever steps necessary commensurate with your responsibility as
the licensee of the station. If you are unable to do so, then you must
shut
down your station.
If you are unwilling or unable to prevent violations on the W8RZM
repeater,
then your operator and station license will be subject to enforcement
action by the Commission. Such action may include monetary forfeiture,
operator license suspension or station license revocation.
--

"Twistedhed" wrote in message
...
N8WWM continues to badger people on this forum for their subject choice,
telling them they are illegal. However, when his own hypocritical
behavior is illustrated, N8WWM lies, claiming he never committed any
violations. Well, here is the letter from the FCC not only claiming
Adair committed violations, but also have in their possession taped
recordings of Adair's multiple offenses and violations.
_

Dear Mr. Lagger:
Our records indicate that you are the trustee for the above repeater
system. Enclosed are recordings of violations on the repeater by N8WWM.
The
transmissions continued for a considerable time and there was no
evidence
of a control operator.
Since you are the trustee for the repeater, it is important for you to
understand that you are responsible for its proper operation. The
decision
to operate a repeater is a totally voluntarily one. Repeaters are a
convenience in the Amateur Radio Service, not a necessity. A repeater is
a
station just like any other station; and under Section 97.205 of the
Commission's rules, all stations must have a licensee and control
operator.
Under Sections 97.103(a) and 97.105, control operators must ensure the
immediate proper operation of a station, regardless of the type of
station
control. Furthermore, "automatic" control does not mean "unattended"
operation. Unattended operation is not authorized under the rules.
The repeater licensee/trustee is responsible for all recurring
violations
and violations that are not inadvertent, just as a licensee is
responsible
for a base station HF station operation in the licensee's home. You must
prevent recurring and deliberate violations on the repeater by locking
rule
violators out, using tones, warning users, limiting its operation, or
taking whatever steps necessary commensurate with your responsibility as
the licensee of the station. If you are unable to do so, then you must
shut
down your station.
If you are unwilling or unable to prevent violations on the W8RZM
repeater,
then your operator and station license will be subject to enforcement
action by the Commission. Such action may include monetary forfeiture,
operator license suspension or station license revocation.

Twistedhed,

At the risk of incurring your wrath, may I offer comment without getting
into a battle of personal attacks and angry insults?

The letter you offer in this case was not TO Mr. Adair, but to the trustee,
or owner, of the repeater. Now, I am not defending N8WWM, or promoting
anything he might be doing, but there is, in this letter, no "proof" that he
did
anything. The letter admonishes the trustee of his responsibilities as to
the ALLEGED violations of a station whose callsign was obviously used in the
commission of *some*, or certain, violations of FCC rules. The violator
could have been someone just pirating his callsign in attempt to get Mr
Adair in trouble, or just a random act of a pirate who heard Mr Adair's
callsign on the repeater. That has happened before. Thus, the letter was
sent to the trustee advising of the fact that he was, apparently, derelict
in HIS duty in not turning off the machine, etc, or taking other steps to
prevent the violation(s).


Respectfully,


--

"Jerry" wrote
Twistedhed,

At the risk of incurring your wrath, may I offer comment without
getting
into a battle of personal attacks and angry insults?

Respectfully

Jerry you are a superstar on the AKC side, you have busted more CB
outlaws than anyone you are a legend. thats why it makes me puke to see
a legitmate ham like you bow down and plead "may I" to anonymous pirate
bootlegger Twistedhed".

a man with a license who obeys the laws does not submit fearfuly or
show respect to an ignorant dishonest outlaw like Titwsy. besides
Twitsy is just trolling, he knows N8 didnt get any NAL he is trying to
get a rise out of you and you bit the hook.

wrote in message
oups.com...
"Jerry" wrote
Twistedhed,

At the risk of incurring your wrath, may I offer comment without
getting
into a battle of personal attacks and angry insults?

Respectfully

Jerry you are a superstar on the AKC side, you have busted more CB
outlaws than anyone you are a legend. thats why it makes me puke to see
a legitmate ham like you bow down and plead "may I" to anonymous pirate
bootlegger Twistedhed".

a man with a license who obeys the laws does not submit fearfuly or
show respect to an ignorant dishonest outlaw like Titwsy. besides
Twitsy is just trolling, he knows N8 didnt get any NAL he is trying to
get a rise out of you and you bit the hook.

Well, sir,

I am not bowing down to anyone by posting simple facts. I am not part of
this "AKC (American Kennel Club???) thing, either. If I want to post
something, I will. If I don't, then I will lurk.

There is no shame in the simple concept of agreeing to disagree without
resorting to insults, innuendo, and other
lowball tactics. I said what I meant. Period.


J

There is no shame in the simple concept of agreeing to disagree
without resorting to insults, innuendo, and other
lowball tactics.

talk about lowball tactics Twitsy knows the facts about the Ohio
repeater case. believe me he has searched the fcc records and found
nothing additional concerning doug no letter of warning no NAL zero zip
nada. If there was something more it would be posted here by him or his
followers. he is just playing games and you answering him with respect
just encourages more trolling by him jerry

wrote in message
oups.com...
There is no shame in the simple concept of agreeing to disagree
without resorting to insults, innuendo, and other
lowball tactics.

talk about lowball tactics Twitsy knows the facts about the Ohio
repeater case. believe me he has searched the fcc records and found
nothing additional concerning doug no letter of warning no NAL zero zip
nada. If there was something more it would be posted here by him or his
followers. he is just playing games and you answering him with respect
just encourages more trolling by him jerry


Good lord man, he already politely told you to STFU! Going on only makes you
look dense.

JO (K4KWH) wrote:
Twistedhed,

At the risk of incurring your wrath,

Jerry,,,,I have instructed you on many occasion,,I do not share your
anger. There is no "wrath" on my behalf.,,you are projecting.

may I offer comment without getting into a

battle of personal attacks and angry insults?

You may, but odds are you won't be able to control yourself, as you are
still hung up about me pointing out your playing up to obvious forges on
this group, illustrating the trouble, personal attacks, and angry
insults you intentionally cause. Such bizarre behavior is quite telling,
especially when you intentionally and falsely accuse others of your
behavior.
But sure,,,go ahead and try and explain away your actions without
personal insult, attacks, or anger.

"Twistedhed" wrote in message
...
JO (K4KWH) wrote:
Twistedhed,

At the risk of incurring your wrath,

Jerry,,,,I have instructed you on many occasion,,I do not share your
anger. There is no "wrath" on my behalf.,,you are projecting.

may I offer comment without getting into a

battle of personal attacks and angry insults?

You may, but odds are you won't be able to control yourself, as you are
still hung up about me pointing out your playing up to obvious forges on
this group, illustrating the trouble, personal attacks, and angry
insults you intentionally cause. Such bizarre behavior is quite telling,
especially when you intentionally and falsely accuse others of your
behavior.
But sure,,,go ahead and try and explain away your actions without
personal insult, attacks, or anger.


1. Forges. I neither care nor become upset about forges.
Who cares who "forges' whom?

2. Whatever 'actions' I am accused of, I have never had said 'actions'
explained as to their nature. As far as *whatever* it is I was accused of
doing, what I AM guilty of saying what I believe without reservation. I
posted several times that certain actions would take place WRT truck drivers
on the licensed bands. They are taking place on an almost daily basis. If
THAT caused people to get mad, then so be it. I stated that dealers would
feel the heat for selling "export" radios. HAHAHAHAHA! Attacks, laughter,
ridicule, etc ensued. There is now a big list of dealers that are under the
gun. Pilot Travel Centers is the most recent and most expensive one. If
that harelips anyone, that is fine. It is OTHERS that have the problem, and
the foul mouth to go with their attitude. No, I am not mad and WRT to the
thread about N8WWM, the guilt is just that; alleged. There is not now, nor
was any "guilt" assigned by the cut and pasted FCC article. He was never
"charged" with anything--unless there is evidence available of which I am
not aware.

J

"Jerry" wrote in message
t...

"Twistedhed" wrote in message
...
JO (K4KWH) wrote:
Twistedhed,

At the risk of incurring your wrath,

Jerry,,,,I have instructed you on many occasion,,I do not share your
anger. There is no "wrath" on my behalf.,,you are projecting.

may I offer comment without getting into a

battle of personal attacks and angry insults?

You may, but odds are you won't be able to control yourself, as you are
still hung up about me pointing out your playing up to obvious forges on
this group, illustrating the trouble, personal attacks, and angry
insults you intentionally cause. Such bizarre behavior is quite telling,
especially when you intentionally and falsely accuse others of your
behavior.
But sure,,,go ahead and try and explain away your actions without
personal insult, attacks, or anger.


1. Forges. I neither care nor become upset about forges.
Who cares who "forges' whom?

2. Whatever 'actions' I am accused of, I have never had said 'actions'
explained as to their nature. As far as *whatever* it is I was accused of
doing, what I AM guilty of saying what I believe without reservation. I
posted several times that certain actions would take place WRT truck
drivers on the licensed bands. They are taking place on an almost daily
basis. If THAT caused people to get mad, then so be it. I stated that
dealers would feel the heat for selling "export" radios. HAHAHAHAHA!
Attacks, laughter, ridicule, etc ensued. There is now a big list of
dealers that are under the gun. Pilot Travel Centers is the most recent
and most expensive one. If that harelips anyone, that is fine. It is
OTHERS that have the problem, and the foul mouth to go with their
attitude. No, I am not mad and WRT to the thread about N8WWM, the guilt
is just that; alleged. There is not now, nor was any "guilt" assigned by
the cut and pasted FCC article. He was never "charged" with
anything--unless there is evidence available of which I am not aware.

J


Well Jerry, there is this one little thing:


LUCAS COUNTY COURT OF COMMON PLEASJ. BERNIE QUILTER, CLERK700 ADAMS
STREETTOLEDO, OHIO TIME: 11:06:34 AMDATE: 5/10/2004 CASE:
G -4801 -CR -199606161TITLE: S/O V DOUGLAS W ADAIRJUDGE: JAMES D.
JENSENFILING DATE: 6/12/1996 CASE TYPE: CR
CRIMINAL --------------------------------------------------------------------------------MONETARY
AMOUNT: DOCKET/PAGE:ORIGINAL COURT: TAX TYPE:PREVIOUS CASE NUMBER:
STATE OF OHIO
NUMBER: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Party Counsel ProsecutorDefendant 1: ADAIR DOUGLAS W5319 SECOR RD.TOLEDO
, OH 43623 MARY S. SWANSON4199365120411 N MICHIGANTOLEDO , OH
436241606 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------COUNT
PARTY DESCRIPTION ABBREV.1 (D -1)ADAIR DOUGLAS W NONSUPPORT OF
DEPENDENTS
F4 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------DATE
SEQ EVENT6/12/1996 1 Title : JCASE ACTIVATION IN FACTSPARTY
: -5/31/2000 1 Title : WAR:CAPIAS ORDERED PER LCAPD803-00499 issued by PJ
(CAPIAS REQUEST GRANTED)Pursuant to the request of probation a capias is
orderedissued. Bond is set at $5,000.00 no 10%.JUDGE JAMES D. JENSENPARTY :
D1 - ADAIR DOUGLAS W6/1/2000 1 Title : EVT:ORDER FILED & JOURNALIZEDCAPIAS
C-174-842PARTY : D1 - ADAIR DOUGLAS W6/1/2000 2 Title : EVT:ORDER FILED &
JOURNALIZEDCAPIAS C-174-843PARTY : D1 - ADAIR DOUGLAS W6/1/2000 3 Title :
WAR:CAPIAS ISSUED BY CLERKC01-02080 issued by 163 (8931) WAR:CAPIAS ISSUED
BY CLERKPARTY : D1 - ADAIR DOUGLAS W11/13/2000 1 Title : WAREFD'T ARREST
WARR/CAPIASPARTY : D1 - ADAIR DOUGLAS W11/13/2000 2 Title : WAR:CAPIAS
SERVED ON DEFENDANTPARTY : D1 - ADAIR DOUGLAS W11/13/2000 3 Title : HRG:PV
HEARING SETNovember 17, 2000 at 8:30 a.m.PARTY : D1 - ADAIR DOUGLAS
W11/13/2000 4 Title : WAR:CAPIAS RETURN FILEDSERVED ON 11/13/00PARTY :
D1 - ADAIR DOUGLAS W11/13/2000 5 Title : WAR:CAPIAS RETURN FILEDSERVED ON
11/12/00PARTY : D1 - ADAIR DOUGLAS W11/17/2000 1 Title : BND:SUPERVISED OR
BOND ISSUEDPARTY : D1 - ADAIR DOUGLAS W11/17/2000 2 Title : MIS:CASE CONT
AT DEF REQUEST772-28458 issued by JTS (GENERAL CONTINUANCE FOR CRIMINAL
CADated November 15, 2000. Court Reporter SANDRA CORPEordered. State of
Ohio: ANNE KIRKHOPE. Defendant, DOUGLASADAIR present in court. Indigency
Hearing held. MARY S.SWANSON appointed as counsel.Matter called for
Probation Violation Hearing. Pursuant tothe request of Defendant, matter
rescheduled for ProbationViolation Hearing on Friday, December 1, 2000 at
8:30 a.m.Bond is reset at Supervised Own Recognizance.JUDGE JAMES D.
JENSENPARTY : D1 - ADAIR DOUGLAS W11/22/2000 1 Title : ORD:ATTORNEY
APPOINTEDSue SwansonPARTY : D1 - ADAIR DOUGLAS W11/27/2000 1 Title :
EVT:ORD FILE/JOUR$ THRU9/23/03RESCHEDULED PV HEARING C-183-1483PARTY : D1 -
ADAIR DOUGLAS W11/29/2000 1 Title : MIS:REC'D PSI/PV/CCV REPORTPARTY :
D1 - ADAIR DOUGLAS W12/1/2000 1 Title : ORD: PV/PROBATION
CONTINUED671-01526 issued by JTS (PROBATION VIOL - PROBATION CONTINUEDated
December 1, 2000. Court Reporter SANDRA CORPEordered. State of Ohio: ANNE
KIRKHOPE. MARY S. SWANSONpresent on behalf of the defendant. Defendant,
DOUGLASADAIR present in court.Defendant having admitted to a probation
violation, andhaving waived oral hearing, defendant is found in violationof
probation.Defendant having been convicted of the offense of Nonsupportof
Dependents, in violation of Revised Code Section2919.21(A)(2), a felony of
the 4TH degree.Probation as ordered by this Court on April 11, 1997
isordered continued with the following added conditions: 1)Seek and maintain
gainful employment; 2) Defendant to seekmental health counseling; 3) Execute
wage withholdingagreement.Defendant ordered to pay the costs of prosecution
includingany fees associated with the appointment of counsel. It isfurther
ordered that the defendant pay any supervision feesassociated with being
granted probation. Payment offinancial obligations shall be prioritized as
restitution,supervision fees, court costs, fines, and assigned
counselfees.JUDGE JAMES D. JENSENPARTY : D1 - ADAIR DOUGLAS W12/5/2000 1
Title : EVT:JE FILE/JOUR $ THRU9/23/03SENTENCE C-184-502PARTY : D1 - ADAIR
DOUGLAS W3/15/2002 1 Title : COMMUNITY CONTROL TERMINATEDterminated
unsuccesfullyPARTY : D1 - ADAIR DOUGLAS W

U Know Who wrote:
"Jerry" wrote in message
t...

"Twistedhed" wrote in message
...
JO (K4KWH) wrote:
Twistedhed,

At the risk of incurring your wrath,

Jerry,,,,I have instructed you on many occasion,,I do not share
your
anger. There is no "wrath" on my behalf.,,you are projecting.

may I offer comment without getting into a

battle of personal attacks and angry insults?

You may, but odds are you won't be able to control yourself, as
you are
still hung up about me pointing out your playing up to obvious
forges on
this group, illustrating the trouble, personal attacks, and angry
insults you intentionally cause. Such bizarre behavior is quite
telling,
especially when you intentionally and falsely accuse others of
your
behavior.
But sure,,,go ahead and try and explain away your actions without
personal insult, attacks, or anger.


1. Forges. I neither care nor become upset about forges.
Who cares who "forges' whom?

2. Whatever 'actions' I am accused of, I have never had said
'actions'
explained as to their nature. As far as *whatever* it is I was
accused of
doing, what I AM guilty of saying what I believe without
reservation. I
posted several times that certain actions would take place WRT
truck
drivers on the licensed bands. They are taking place on an almost
daily
basis. If THAT caused people to get mad, then so be it. I stated
that
dealers would feel the heat for selling "export" radios.
HAHAHAHAHA!
Attacks, laughter, ridicule, etc ensued. There is now a big list
of
dealers that are under the gun. Pilot Travel Centers is the most
recent
and most expensive one. If that harelips anyone, that is fine. It
is
OTHERS that have the problem, and the foul mouth to go with their
attitude. No, I am not mad and WRT to the thread about N8WWM, the
guilt
is just that; alleged. There is not now, nor was any "guilt"
assigned by
the cut and pasted FCC article. He was never "charged" with
anything--unless there is evidence available of which I am not
aware.

J


Well Jerry, there is this one little thing:


LUCAS COUNTY COURT OF COMMON PLEASJ. BERNIE QUILTER, CLERK700 ADAMS
STREETTOLEDO, OHIO TIME: 11:06:34 AMDATE: 5/10/2004 CASE:
G -4801 -CR -199606161TITLE: S/O V DOUGLAS W ADAIRJUDGE: JAMES
D.
JENSENFILING DATE: 6/12/1996 CASE TYPE: CR


jerry this guy is like a teenage girl following a rock star around dont
you think? i bet he has pics of N8 that he drools over every night LOL