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On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 03:48:46 GMT, "Landshark"
wrote: "Dave Hall" wrote in message .. . On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 05:19:54 GMT, "Landshark" wrote: "Dave Hall" wrote in message ... On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 10:57:27 -0500, (Twistedhed) wrote: From: (Dave Hall) wrote: The "DX" has nothing to do with the amount of splatter and the distortion a signal may have. The only effect that "DX" may have is heterodyning of co-channel signals. In any case, when my observations were made, the "DX" was not running heavy enough that a clean sample of any particular transmission could not be made. Ummm, no Dave. DX has everything to do with DX splatter. No, it doesn't. Dx is simply an enhancement of the atmosphere which allows a signal to propagate farther then normal line of sight. It does not add "splatter" to an otherwise clean signal. Ah, that explains everything. So when a normal channel has maybe 5 to 10 operators, add another 100 because of skip conditions, of course there will be some running clipped & mod radio's, you don't think that enhances the splatter? Not to any one single radio signal. You are confusing heterodyning with splatter. So therefore it can be assumed that a roger beep and (even more definite) an echo box could be considered "entertainment" or "amusement" devices and, as such, are specifically prohibited. You can make the point that the FCC doesn't care enough to make a case about these things, and I would probably agree with you. But the fact remains that they are prohibited by the rules. We've gone over this before Dave, your wrong. I have referenced two part 95 rules which address both the issue of permissible non-voice transmissions and also prohibited transmissions which include devices which are used for entertainment and amusement. Conversely there are no rules which specifically allow either a roger beep (and other noise makers) or echo boxes. Since neither are defined under permissible non-voice transmissions, it can reasonably be concluded that these devices would be considered amusement or entertainment devices, and as such prohibited. You tell me I'm wrong, then please prove it by providing the rules which allow these devices. If I showed you CB radio's being sold BRAND NEW with roger beeps, will that do? It will tell me that there are a few companies which are willing to play loose and fast with the rules, until they are spanked for it. Galaxy radios are notorious for catering to the illegal freeband market. It's no surprise that they push the limit. Knowing that the FCC is not all that interested in small CB rule issues, they take the gamble that they won't be judged. They're probably right.... There is still nothing in the rules which allow for devices that can be considered entertainment. Dave "Sandbagger" |
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"Dave Hall" wrote in message ... On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 03:48:46 GMT, "Landshark" wrote: "Dave Hall" wrote in message . .. On Sat, 08 Jan 2005 05:19:54 GMT, "Landshark" wrote: "Dave Hall" wrote in message m... On Fri, 7 Jan 2005 10:57:27 -0500, (Twistedhed) wrote: From: (Dave Hall) wrote: The "DX" has nothing to do with the amount of splatter and the distortion a signal may have. The only effect that "DX" may have is heterodyning of co-channel signals. In any case, when my observations were made, the "DX" was not running heavy enough that a clean sample of any particular transmission could not be made. Ummm, no Dave. DX has everything to do with DX splatter. No, it doesn't. Dx is simply an enhancement of the atmosphere which allows a signal to propagate farther then normal line of sight. It does not add "splatter" to an otherwise clean signal. Ah, that explains everything. So when a normal channel has maybe 5 to 10 operators, add another 100 because of skip conditions, of course there will be some running clipped & mod radio's, you don't think that enhances the splatter? Not to any one single radio signal. You are confusing heterodyning with splatter. So therefore it can be assumed that a roger beep and (even more definite) an echo box could be considered "entertainment" or "amusement" devices and, as such, are specifically prohibited. You can make the point that the FCC doesn't care enough to make a case about these things, and I would probably agree with you. But the fact remains that they are prohibited by the rules. We've gone over this before Dave, your wrong. I have referenced two part 95 rules which address both the issue of permissible non-voice transmissions and also prohibited transmissions which include devices which are used for entertainment and amusement. Conversely there are no rules which specifically allow either a roger beep (and other noise makers) or echo boxes. Since neither are defined under permissible non-voice transmissions, it can reasonably be concluded that these devices would be considered amusement or entertainment devices, and as such prohibited. You tell me I'm wrong, then please prove it by providing the rules which allow these devices. If I showed you CB radio's being sold BRAND NEW with roger beeps, will that do? It will tell me that there are a few companies which are willing to play loose and fast with the rules, until they are spanked for it. Galaxy radios are notorious for catering to the illegal freeband market. It's no surprise that they push the limit. Knowing that the FCC is not all that interested in small CB rule issues, they take the gamble that they won't be judged. They're probably right.... There is still nothing in the rules which allow for devices that can be considered entertainment. Why Dave, I get ton's of entertainment from my Cobra 146, but it's not illegal. Again, you are grasping for straws on the roger beep, it's legal. Now the echo crap, even if it was legal, it should be outlawed. Dave "Sandbagger" Landshark -- That does suck..sometimes you're the windshield..sometimes you're the bug. |
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