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Roger Beeps 100% ILLEGAL
Sorry, the FCC has already Type Accepted rigs that include ETS or "roger"
beeps. http://www.galaxyradios.com/cb/949.html http://www.galaxyradios.com/2547.html http://cbworldinformer.com/200107/dx...anel_clsup.htm -- Vy 73 de Bert WA2SI FISTS #9384 QRP ARCI #11782 "itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge" wrote in message ... Rule 13 - Illegal Communications {A} You must NOT use a CB station- [1] in connection with activity which is against federal, state or local law; [2] to transmit obscene, indecent or profane words, language or meaning; [3] to interfere intentionally with the communications of another CB station; [4] to transmit one-way communications, EXCEPT for emergency communications, traveler assistance, brief tests (radio checks) or voice paging; [5] to advertise or solicit the sale of any goods or services; [6] to transmit music, whistling, sound effects or any material to amuse or entertain; [7] to transmit any sound effect solely to attract attention; [8] to transmit the word "MAYDAY" or use any other international distress signal, EXCEPT when your station is located in a ship, aircraft or other vehicle which is threatened with GRAVE AND IMMINENT danger and you are requesting IMMEDIATE assistance. [9] to communicate with, or ATTEMPT to communicate with, any CB station more than 155.3 miles (250 kilometers) away [10] to advertise a political candidate or political campaign (You may use your CB radio for the business or organizational aspects of a campaign, if you follow all other applicable rules); [11] to communicate with stations in other countries, except stations in Canada (on General Radio Service). [12] to transmit a false or deceptive communication. {B} You must not use a CB station to transmit communications intended for live or delayed rebroadcast on radio or television. You may use your CB station to gather news items or to prepare programs. Rule 25 - Modifications to Transmitters {A} You must not make or have any one else make any internal modification to your CB transmitter. {B} Internal modification does NOT include: [1] Repair, or servicing of a CB station transmitter; or [2] Changing plug-in modules which were type-accepted as part of your CB transmitter {C} You must not operate a CB transmitter which has been modified by anyone in any way, including modification to operate on unauthorized frequencies or with illegal power. |
How would you like a country ass-whoopin', Boy?
Roger beeps are NOT 100% ILLEGAL! Quit changing this Newsgroup into obeying your lifestyle and take your trash somewhere ELSE! "itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge" wrote in message ... Rule 13 - Illegal Communications {A} You must NOT use a CB station- [1] in connection with activity which is against federal, state or local law; [2] to transmit obscene, indecent or profane words, language or meaning; [3] to interfere intentionally with the communications of another CB station; [4] to transmit one-way communications, EXCEPT for emergency communications, traveler assistance, brief tests (radio checks) or voice paging; [5] to advertise or solicit the sale of any goods or services; [6] to transmit music, whistling, sound effects or any material to amuse or entertain; [7] to transmit any sound effect solely to attract attention; [8] to transmit the word "MAYDAY" or use any other international distress signal, EXCEPT when your station is located in a ship, aircraft or other vehicle which is threatened with GRAVE AND IMMINENT danger and you are requesting IMMEDIATE assistance. [9] to communicate with, or ATTEMPT to communicate with, any CB station more than 155.3 miles (250 kilometers) away [10] to advertise a political candidate or political campaign (You may use your CB radio for the business or organizational aspects of a campaign, if you follow all other applicable rules); [11] to communicate with stations in other countries, except stations in Canada (on General Radio Service). [12] to transmit a false or deceptive communication. {B} You must not use a CB station to transmit communications intended for live or delayed rebroadcast on radio or television. You may use your CB station to gather news items or to prepare programs. Rule 25 - Modifications to Transmitters {A} You must not make or have any one else make any internal modification to your CB transmitter. {B} Internal modification does NOT include: [1] Repair, or servicing of a CB station transmitter; or [2] Changing plug-in modules which were type-accepted as part of your CB transmitter {C} You must not operate a CB transmitter which has been modified by anyone in any way, including modification to operate on unauthorized frequencies or with illegal power. |
itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge wrote:
Rule 13 - Illegal Communications {A} You must NOT use a CB station- [1] in connection with activity which is against federal, state or local law; [2] to transmit obscene, indecent or profane words, language or meaning; [3] to interfere intentionally with the communications of another CB station; [4] to transmit one-way communications, EXCEPT for emergency communications, traveler assistance, brief tests (radio checks) or voice paging; [5] to advertise or solicit the sale of any goods or services; [6] to transmit music, whistling, sound effects or any material to amuse or entertain; [7] to transmit any sound effect solely to attract attention; [8] to transmit the word "MAYDAY" or use any other international distress signal, EXCEPT when your station is located in a ship, aircraft or other vehicle which is threatened with GRAVE AND IMMINENT danger and you are requesting IMMEDIATE assistance. [9] to communicate with, or ATTEMPT to communicate with, any CB station more than 155.3 miles (250 kilometers) away [10] to advertise a political candidate or political campaign (You may use your CB radio for the business or organizational aspects of a campaign, if you follow all other applicable rules); [11] to communicate with stations in other countries, except stations in Canada (on General Radio Service). [12] to transmit a false or deceptive communication. {B} You must not use a CB station to transmit communications intended for live or delayed rebroadcast on radio or television. You may use your CB station to gather news items or to prepare programs. Rule 25 - Modifications to Transmitters {A} You must not make or have any one else make any internal modification to your CB transmitter. {B} Internal modification does NOT include: [1] Repair, or servicing of a CB station transmitter; or [2] Changing plug-in modules which were type-accepted as part of your CB transmitter {C} You must not operate a CB transmitter which has been modified by anyone in any way, including modification to operate on unauthorized frequencies or with illegal power. Not so sure they're 100% illegal: 1. It doesn't take internal modifications to transmit a roger beep on a CB radio. External electronics can accomplish this. Microphones do not have to be type accepted and can include this circuitry. 2. Roger beeps used for their intended purpose (that is, signaling the end of a transmission) are not used "simply to attract attention", are not intended to entertain, and do not violate any part of either of these sections. You might want to rethink some of your statements before you put them out here, not-not-Jorge. In this case, you're not 100% correct. -SSB |
"SideBand" wrote in message om... itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge wrote: Rule 13 - Illegal Communications {A} You must NOT use a CB station- [1] in connection with activity which is against federal, state or local law; [2] to transmit obscene, indecent or profane words, language or meaning; [3] to interfere intentionally with the communications of another CB station; [4] to transmit one-way communications, EXCEPT for emergency communications, traveler assistance, brief tests (radio checks) or voice paging; [5] to advertise or solicit the sale of any goods or services; [6] to transmit music, whistling, sound effects or any material to amuse or entertain; [7] to transmit any sound effect solely to attract attention; [8] to transmit the word "MAYDAY" or use any other international distress signal, EXCEPT when your station is located in a ship, aircraft or other vehicle which is threatened with GRAVE AND IMMINENT danger and you are requesting IMMEDIATE assistance. [9] to communicate with, or ATTEMPT to communicate with, any CB station more than 155.3 miles (250 kilometers) away [10] to advertise a political candidate or political campaign (You may use your CB radio for the business or organizational aspects of a campaign, if you follow all other applicable rules); [11] to communicate with stations in other countries, except stations in Canada (on General Radio Service). [12] to transmit a false or deceptive communication. {B} You must not use a CB station to transmit communications intended for live or delayed rebroadcast on radio or television. You may use your CB station to gather news items or to prepare programs. Rule 25 - Modifications to Transmitters {A} You must not make or have any one else make any internal modification to your CB transmitter. {B} Internal modification does NOT include: [1] Repair, or servicing of a CB station transmitter; or [2] Changing plug-in modules which were type-accepted as part of your CB transmitter {C} You must not operate a CB transmitter which has been modified by anyone in any way, including modification to operate on unauthorized frequencies or with illegal power. Not so sure they're 100% illegal: 1. It doesn't take internal modifications to transmit a roger beep on a CB radio. External electronics can accomplish this. Microphones do not have to be type accepted and can include this circuitry. 2. Roger beeps used for their intended purpose (that is, signaling the end of a transmission) are not used "simply to attract attention", are not intended to entertain, and do not violate any part of either of these sections. You might want to rethink some of your statements before you put them out here, not-not-Jorge. In this case, you're not 100% correct. -SSB Please do not confuse him with facts. |
U Know Who wrote:
"SideBand" wrote in message om... Not so sure they're 100% illegal: 1. It doesn't take internal modifications to transmit a roger beep on a CB radio. External electronics can accomplish this. Microphones do not have to be type accepted and can include this circuitry. 2. Roger beeps used for their intended purpose (that is, signaling the end of a transmission) are not used "simply to attract attention", are not intended to entertain, and do not violate any part of either of these sections. You might want to rethink some of your statements before you put them out here, not-not-Jorge. In this case, you're not 100% correct. -SSB Please do not confuse him with facts. But if I don't confuse him with the facts, then what method should I use? Disseminating information is the easiest cure for ignorance. -SSB |
Hey triple one.....I thought I told you to get the **** out of here. Btw,
whats the name of the whore that spat you out? "Triple 1" wrote in message ... How would you like a country ass-whoopin', Boy? Roger beeps are NOT 100% ILLEGAL! Quit changing this Newsgroup into obeying your lifestyle and take your trash somewhere ELSE! "itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge" wrote in message ... Rule 13 - Illegal Communications {A} You must NOT use a CB station- [1] in connection with activity which is against federal, state or local law; [2] to transmit obscene, indecent or profane words, language or meaning; [3] to interfere intentionally with the communications of another CB station; [4] to transmit one-way communications, EXCEPT for emergency communications, traveler assistance, brief tests (radio checks) or voice paging; [5] to advertise or solicit the sale of any goods or services; [6] to transmit music, whistling, sound effects or any material to amuse or entertain; [7] to transmit any sound effect solely to attract attention; [8] to transmit the word "MAYDAY" or use any other international distress signal, EXCEPT when your station is located in a ship, aircraft or other vehicle which is threatened with GRAVE AND IMMINENT danger and you are requesting IMMEDIATE assistance. [9] to communicate with, or ATTEMPT to communicate with, any CB station more than 155.3 miles (250 kilometers) away [10] to advertise a political candidate or political campaign (You may use your CB radio for the business or organizational aspects of a campaign, if you follow all other applicable rules); [11] to communicate with stations in other countries, except stations in Canada (on General Radio Service). [12] to transmit a false or deceptive communication. {B} You must not use a CB station to transmit communications intended for live or delayed rebroadcast on radio or television. You may use your CB station to gather news items or to prepare programs. Rule 25 - Modifications to Transmitters {A} You must not make or have any one else make any internal modification to your CB transmitter. {B} Internal modification does NOT include: [1] Repair, or servicing of a CB station transmitter; or [2] Changing plug-in modules which were type-accepted as part of your CB transmitter {C} You must not operate a CB transmitter which has been modified by anyone in any way, including modification to operate on unauthorized frequencies or with illegal power. _________________________________________ Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server More than 120,000 groups Unlimited download http://www.usenetzone.com to open account |
You don't control me!
You better keep your unwelcome material out of rec.radio.cb because it doesn't relate to CB what-so-ever. "Steveo" wrote in message ... Hey triple one.....I thought I told you to get the **** out of here. Btw, whats the name of the whore that spat you out? "Triple 1" wrote in message ... How would you like a country ass-whoopin', Boy? Roger beeps are NOT 100% ILLEGAL! Quit changing this Newsgroup into obeying your lifestyle and take your trash somewhere ELSE! "itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge" wrote in message ... Rule 13 - Illegal Communications {A} You must NOT use a CB station- [1] in connection with activity which is against federal, state or local law; [2] to transmit obscene, indecent or profane words, language or meaning; [3] to interfere intentionally with the communications of another CB station; [4] to transmit one-way communications, EXCEPT for emergency communications, traveler assistance, brief tests (radio checks) or voice paging; [5] to advertise or solicit the sale of any goods or services; [6] to transmit music, whistling, sound effects or any material to amuse or entertain; [7] to transmit any sound effect solely to attract attention; [8] to transmit the word "MAYDAY" or use any other international distress signal, EXCEPT when your station is located in a ship, aircraft or other vehicle which is threatened with GRAVE AND IMMINENT danger and you are requesting IMMEDIATE assistance. [9] to communicate with, or ATTEMPT to communicate with, any CB station more than 155.3 miles (250 kilometers) away [10] to advertise a political candidate or political campaign (You may use your CB radio for the business or organizational aspects of a campaign, if you follow all other applicable rules); [11] to communicate with stations in other countries, except stations in Canada (on General Radio Service). [12] to transmit a false or deceptive communication. {B} You must not use a CB station to transmit communications intended for live or delayed rebroadcast on radio or television. You may use your CB station to gather news items or to prepare programs. Rule 25 - Modifications to Transmitters {A} You must not make or have any one else make any internal modification to your CB transmitter. {B} Internal modification does NOT include: [1] Repair, or servicing of a CB station transmitter; or [2] Changing plug-in modules which were type-accepted as part of your CB transmitter {C} You must not operate a CB transmitter which has been modified by anyone in any way, including modification to operate on unauthorized frequencies or with illegal power. _________________________________________ Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server More than 120,000 groups Unlimited download http://www.usenetzone.com to open account |
**** YOU.
"Triple 1" wrote in message ... You don't control me! You better keep your unwelcome material out of rec.radio.cb because it doesn't relate to CB what-so-ever. "Steveo" wrote in message ... Hey triple one.....I thought I told you to get the **** out of here. Btw, whats the name of the whore that spat you out? "Triple 1" wrote in message ... How would you like a country ass-whoopin', Boy? Roger beeps are NOT 100% ILLEGAL! Quit changing this Newsgroup into obeying your lifestyle and take your trash somewhere ELSE! "itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge" wrote in message ... Rule 13 - Illegal Communications {A} You must NOT use a CB station- [1] in connection with activity which is against federal, state or local law; [2] to transmit obscene, indecent or profane words, language or meaning; [3] to interfere intentionally with the communications of another CB station; [4] to transmit one-way communications, EXCEPT for emergency communications, traveler assistance, brief tests (radio checks) or voice paging; [5] to advertise or solicit the sale of any goods or services; [6] to transmit music, whistling, sound effects or any material to amuse or entertain; [7] to transmit any sound effect solely to attract attention; [8] to transmit the word "MAYDAY" or use any other international distress signal, EXCEPT when your station is located in a ship, aircraft or other vehicle which is threatened with GRAVE AND IMMINENT danger and you are requesting IMMEDIATE assistance. [9] to communicate with, or ATTEMPT to communicate with, any CB station more than 155.3 miles (250 kilometers) away [10] to advertise a political candidate or political campaign (You may use your CB radio for the business or organizational aspects of a campaign, if you follow all other applicable rules); [11] to communicate with stations in other countries, except stations in Canada (on General Radio Service). [12] to transmit a false or deceptive communication. {B} You must not use a CB station to transmit communications intended for live or delayed rebroadcast on radio or television. You may use your CB station to gather news items or to prepare programs. Rule 25 - Modifications to Transmitters {A} You must not make or have any one else make any internal modification to your CB transmitter. {B} Internal modification does NOT include: [1] Repair, or servicing of a CB station transmitter; or [2] Changing plug-in modules which were type-accepted as part of your CB transmitter {C} You must not operate a CB transmitter which has been modified by anyone in any way, including modification to operate on unauthorized frequencies or with illegal power. _________________________________________ Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server More than 120,000 groups Unlimited download http://www.usenetzone.com to open account _________________________________________ Usenet Zone Free Binaries Usenet Server More than 120,000 groups Unlimited download http://www.usenetzone.com to open account |
Heads-up. If it isn't posted from Newsreader.com, it isn't me.
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"Bert Craig" wrote:
Sorry, the FCC has already Type Accepted rigs that include ETS or "roger" beeps. http://www.galaxyradios.com/cb/949.html http://www.galaxyradios.com/2547.html http://cbworldinformer.com/200107/dx...anel_clsup.htm -- Vy 73 de Bert WA2SI FISTS #9384 QRP ARCI #11782 Yhe voice of truth and reason. |
You too...yer already confused with crack...the snortable AND the
slurpable kind. |
You could confuse him by refusing mopey's advances at the Petro. That
would go against your whole creed. |
I dunno about triple 1...but I sure would like to know if it was ex-lax
or the cheap generic laxative that spit you out....Flip that wrist, moron boy. |
If you did you'd probably quit with the duct taped hamsters....
Flip that wrist. |
"Psychiatrist to keyclowns" wrote:
You could confuse him by refusing mopey's advances at the Petro. That would go against your whole creed. Ever refused a fat lip? lol |
replied to by the voice of frustrated gay sexual urges
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itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge
wrote: Steveo wrote in news:20050117220459.299 : "Bert Craig" wrote: Sorry, the FCC has already Type Accepted rigs that include ETS or "roger" beeps. http://www.galaxyradios.com/cb/949.html http://www.galaxyradios.com/2547.html http://cbworldinformer.com/200107/dx...anel_clsup.htm -- Vy 73 de Bert WA2SI FISTS #9384 QRP ARCI #11782 Yhe voice of truth and reason. No Steve the voice of obfuscation and BS the FCC clearly states what the requirments are in their laws, Galaxy are export radios they are not type certified cb's Well, I thought we were talking about those silly ass'd roger-beep things, and deere-lowered knows how much I hate those.. |
"Psychiatrist to keyclowns" wrote:
replied to by the voice of frustrated gay sexual urges Ever been face-fisted? |
Nope, but you have been anally fisted
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They don't care...they are wrist flipping keyclowns
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"Psychiatrist to keyclowns" wrote:
Nope, but you have been anally fisted You're doomed, twit. See ya soon. |
"itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge" wrote in message ... Steveo wrote in news:20050117220459.299 : "Bert Craig" wrote: Sorry, the FCC has already Type Accepted rigs that include ETS or "roger" beeps. http://www.galaxyradios.com/cb/949.html http://www.galaxyradios.com/2547.html http://cbworldinformer.com/200107/dx...anel_clsup.htm -- Vy 73 de Bert WA2SI FISTS #9384 QRP ARCI #11782 Yhe voice of truth and reason. No Steve the voice of obfuscation and BS the FCC clearly states what the requirments are in their laws, Galaxy are export radios they are not type certified cb's You are an idiot. Can you ****ing see and read? Not all Galaxies are export radios. Try this link, dimwit: http://cbworldinformer.com/200107/dx...anel_clsup.htm |
"itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge" wrote in message ... "U Know Who" wrote in : "SideBand" wrote in message om... itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge wrote: Rule 13 - Illegal Communications {A} You must NOT use a CB station- [1] in connection with activity which is against federal, state or local law; [2] to transmit obscene, indecent or profane words, language or meaning; [3] to interfere intentionally with the communications of another CB station; [4] to transmit one-way communications, EXCEPT for emergency communications, traveler assistance, brief tests (radio checks) or voice paging; [5] to advertise or solicit the sale of any goods or services; [6] to transmit music, whistling, sound effects or any material to amuse or entertain; [7] to transmit any sound effect solely to attract attention; [8] to transmit the word "MAYDAY" or use any other international distress signal, EXCEPT when your station is located in a ship, aircraft or other vehicle which is threatened with GRAVE AND IMMINENT danger and you are requesting IMMEDIATE assistance. [9] to communicate with, or ATTEMPT to communicate with, any CB station more than 155.3 miles (250 kilometers) away [10] to advertise a political candidate or political campaign (You may use your CB radio for the business or organizational aspects of a campaign, if you follow all other applicable rules); [11] to communicate with stations in other countries, except stations in Canada (on General Radio Service). [12] to transmit a false or deceptive communication. {B} You must not use a CB station to transmit communications intended for live or delayed rebroadcast on radio or television. You may use your CB station to gather news items or to prepare programs. Rule 25 - Modifications to Transmitters {A} You must not make or have any one else make any internal modification to your CB transmitter. {B} Internal modification does NOT include: [1] Repair, or servicing of a CB station transmitter; or [2] Changing plug-in modules which were type-accepted as part of your CB transmitter {C} You must not operate a CB transmitter which has been modified by anyone in any way, including modification to operate on unauthorized frequencies or with illegal power. Not so sure they're 100% illegal: 1. It doesn't take internal modifications to transmit a roger beep on a CB radio. External electronics can accomplish this. Microphones do not have to be type accepted and can include this circuitry. 2. Roger beeps used for their intended purpose (that is, signaling the end of a transmission) are not used "simply to attract attention", are not intended to entertain, and do not violate any part of either of these sections. You might want to rethink some of your statements before you put them out here, not-not-Jorge. In this case, you're not 100% correct. -SSB Please do not confuse him with facts. I just posted the facts Randy sorry you don't agree with them he posted his opinion. since when is opinion facts? snif sniff ... hey randy you stink.... Look in the middle of the picture of the back of the radio. See the FCC ID? http://cbworldinformer.com/200107/dx...anel_clsup.htm |
"Psychiatrist to keyclowns" wrote:
Nope, but you have been anally fisted You're doomed, twit. See ya soon. To Steveo: Har de HAR har. What could YOU do to anybody, flip-wrist? YOU are the one who will be pounded flat into the dirt. YOU are too scared to move an inch, sissyboy. Show your face at a ham's home and you WILL get PUMMELLED and that's a promise! |
"U Know Who" wrote:
"itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge" I just posted the facts Randy sorry you don't agree with them he posted his opinion. since when is opinion facts? snif sniff ... hey randy you stink.... Look in the middle of the picture of the back of the radio. See the FCC ID? http://cbworldinformer.com/200107/dx...anel_clsup.htm Yes. |
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"itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge" wrote in message ... "U Know Who" wrote in : "itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge" wrote in message ... Steveo wrote in news:20050117220459.299 : "Bert Craig" wrote: Sorry, the FCC has already Type Accepted rigs that include ETS or "roger" beeps. http://www.galaxyradios.com/cb/949.html http://www.galaxyradios.com/2547.html http://cbworldinformer.com/200107/dx...anel_clsup.htm -- Vy 73 de Bert WA2SI FISTS #9384 QRP ARCI #11782 Yhe voice of truth and reason. No Steve the voice of obfuscation and BS the FCC clearly states what the requirments are in their laws, Galaxy are export radios they are not type certified cb's You are an idiot. Can you ****ing see and read? Not all Galaxies are export radios. Try this link, dimwit: http://cbworldinformer.com/200107/dx...anel_clsup.htm Try this link dimwit, this is the one that counts. And I made it easy for you read the list below your 2547 is listed. http://www.fcc.gov/eb/FieldNotices/2...-253693A1.html It's a field notice with every radio from their site. The dumbass field agents assumed all Galaxies are illegal. Typical for government employees. They were even too lazy to type each one. They copied and pasted from the web site. |
itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge
wrote: "Psychiatrist to keyclowns" wrote in ps.com: Nope, but you have been anally fisted No but i am willing to try? Dogie has assy facey disease. |
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:32:48 -0500 Bert Craig wrote:
Sorry, the FCC has already Type Accepted rigs that include ETS or "roger" beeps. No they do not "type accept" these radios. You show a photo of one of the labels where it says they are type accepted. And I'll show you a forgery. The rule says, "No sound effects" are permitted. Taken literally, this may even include "talk back". |
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:03:11 GMT SideBand wrote:
Not so sure they're 100% illegal: 1. It doesn't take internal modifications to transmit a roger beep on a CB radio. External electronics can accomplish this. Microphones do not have to be type accepted and can include this circuitry. 2. Roger beeps used for their intended purpose (that is, signaling the end of a transmission) are not used "simply to attract attention", are not intended to entertain, and do not violate any part of either of these sections. You might want to rethink some of your statements before you put them out here, not-not-Jorge. In this case, you're not 100% correct. -SSB Yup. The rules clearly state INTERNAL modifications. It says nothing of external add ons. However, it does state, "NO SOUND EFFECTS". So after a 10 minute disertation, you end with, "This is a radio check. beep beep". |
"U Know Who" wrote in message ... "itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge" wrote in message ... "U Know Who" wrote in : "SideBand" wrote in message om... itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge wrote: Rule 13 - Illegal Communications {A} You must NOT use a CB station- [1] in connection with activity which is against federal, state or local law; [2] to transmit obscene, indecent or profane words, language or meaning; [3] to interfere intentionally with the communications of another CB station; [4] to transmit one-way communications, EXCEPT for emergency communications, traveler assistance, brief tests (radio checks) or voice paging; [5] to advertise or solicit the sale of any goods or services; [6] to transmit music, whistling, sound effects or any material to amuse or entertain; [7] to transmit any sound effect solely to attract attention; [8] to transmit the word "MAYDAY" or use any other international distress signal, EXCEPT when your station is located in a ship, aircraft or other vehicle which is threatened with GRAVE AND IMMINENT danger and you are requesting IMMEDIATE assistance. [9] to communicate with, or ATTEMPT to communicate with, any CB station more than 155.3 miles (250 kilometers) away [10] to advertise a political candidate or political campaign (You may use your CB radio for the business or organizational aspects of a campaign, if you follow all other applicable rules); [11] to communicate with stations in other countries, except stations in Canada (on General Radio Service). [12] to transmit a false or deceptive communication. {B} You must not use a CB station to transmit communications intended for live or delayed rebroadcast on radio or television. You may use your CB station to gather news items or to prepare programs. Rule 25 - Modifications to Transmitters {A} You must not make or have any one else make any internal modification to your CB transmitter. {B} Internal modification does NOT include: [1] Repair, or servicing of a CB station transmitter; or [2] Changing plug-in modules which were type-accepted as part of your CB transmitter {C} You must not operate a CB transmitter which has been modified by anyone in any way, including modification to operate on unauthorized frequencies or with illegal power. Not so sure they're 100% illegal: 1. It doesn't take internal modifications to transmit a roger beep on a CB radio. External electronics can accomplish this. Microphones do not have to be type accepted and can include this circuitry. 2. Roger beeps used for their intended purpose (that is, signaling the end of a transmission) are not used "simply to attract attention", are not intended to entertain, and do not violate any part of either of these sections. You might want to rethink some of your statements before you put them out here, not-not-Jorge. In this case, you're not 100% correct. -SSB Please do not confuse him with facts. I just posted the facts Randy sorry you don't agree with them he posted his opinion. since when is opinion facts? snif sniff ... hey randy you stink.... Look in the middle of the picture of the back of the radio. See the FCC ID? http://cbworldinformer.com/200107/dx...anel_clsup.htm OOPppps, that was too factual LOL!!!! Landshark Start you usual sexual innuendoes, vulgar language he -- Is it so frightening to have me at your shoulder? Thunder and lightning couldn't be bolder. I'll write on your tombstone, ``I thank you for dinner.'' This game that we animals play is a winner. |
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:03:11 GMT, SideBand wrote:
[6] to transmit music, whistling, sound effects or any material to amuse or entertain; [7] to transmit any sound effect solely to attract attention; Not so sure they're 100% illegal: 1. It doesn't take internal modifications to transmit a roger beep on a CB radio. True. External electronics can accomplish this. Microphones do not have to be type accepted and can include this circuitry. They can also add echo and other sound effects which are clearly an "amusement" device. The FCC knows that it cannot certify every conceivable accessory that might be connected to the mike jack. So they regulate what you transmit, not what gets connected to the radio. 2. Roger beeps used for their intended purpose (that is, signaling the end of a transmission) are not used "simply to attract attention", are not intended to entertain, and do not violate any part of either of these sections. This is where the controversy is. Your assessment is valid, and it would seem that since the FCC has allowed ETS signals on FRS radios, (which also fall under part 95) that it would also stand to reason that they would allow them on class "D" CB as well. The question is why have they not made their position clear in the form of a rule modification? A valid ETS signal should consist of no more than a single short beep. The multiple "K" beeps and those sequential musical tones clearly still fall within the "amusement" category. Many years ago the FCC stated that they considered ANY tone signal other than one used for selective calling as "unnecessary" and therefore illegal. They may have softened their position on it since. This was back in the days before roger beeps became popular, but little devices known as "birdies" were prevalent. But it's evidently not clear to most radio manufacturers since, with the exception of the Galaxy (Galaxy also has a reputation for pushing the limits of the law) radio, no other domestic type accepted/approved CB radio has an ETS as standard equipment. One has to wonder why that is, if they are clearly legal. In any case, the FCC does not seem to be overly interested in much concerning CB radio these days. Dave "Sandbagger" http://home.ptd.net/~n3cvj |
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 07:04:53 -0500, Dave Hall
wrote in : On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:03:11 GMT, SideBand wrote: [6] to transmit music, whistling, sound effects or any material to amuse or entertain; It's illegal because any form of free entertainment or amusement is a direct attack on the free-enterprise system by the liberals who want to weaken the corporate stronghold on the entertainment industry. So the US government (whose sole purpose is to "protect, facilitate and represent our interests in the world market") has disallowed any free entertainment and amusement in non-profit venues, including CB radio. How could you not see that, Dave? |
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 07:15:17 -0600, itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge
wrote in : snip Hey Frank, stfu you ****ing assclown, you are really starting to sound like a real jerkoff. "....starting"? Damn, I thought I had that 'jerkoff' routine pegged a couple years ago! |
"itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge" wrote in message ... "U Know Who" wrote in : "itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge" wrote in message ... "U Know Who" wrote in : "SideBand" wrote in message om... itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge wrote: Rule 13 - Illegal Communications {A} You must NOT use a CB station- [1] in connection with activity which is against federal, state or local law; [2] to transmit obscene, indecent or profane words, language or meaning; [3] to interfere intentionally with the communications of another CB station; [4] to transmit one-way communications, EXCEPT for emergency communications, traveler assistance, brief tests (radio checks) or voice paging; [5] to advertise or solicit the sale of any goods or services; [6] to transmit music, whistling, sound effects or any material to amuse or entertain; [7] to transmit any sound effect solely to attract attention; [8] to transmit the word "MAYDAY" or use any other international distress signal, EXCEPT when your station is located in a ship, aircraft or other vehicle which is threatened with GRAVE AND IMMINENT danger and you are requesting IMMEDIATE assistance. [9] to communicate with, or ATTEMPT to communicate with, any CB station more than 155.3 miles (250 kilometers) away [10] to advertise a political candidate or political campaign (You may use your CB radio for the business or organizational aspects of a campaign, if you follow all other applicable rules); [11] to communicate with stations in other countries, except stations in Canada (on General Radio Service). [12] to transmit a false or deceptive communication. {B} You must not use a CB station to transmit communications intended for live or delayed rebroadcast on radio or television. You may use your CB station to gather news items or to prepare programs. Rule 25 - Modifications to Transmitters {A} You must not make or have any one else make any internal modification to your CB transmitter. {B} Internal modification does NOT include: [1] Repair, or servicing of a CB station transmitter; or [2] Changing plug-in modules which were type-accepted as part of your CB transmitter {C} You must not operate a CB transmitter which has been modified by anyone in any way, including modification to operate on unauthorized frequencies or with illegal power. Not so sure they're 100% illegal: 1. It doesn't take internal modifications to transmit a roger beep on a CB radio. External electronics can accomplish this. Microphones do not have to be type accepted and can include this circuitry. 2. Roger beeps used for their intended purpose (that is, signaling the end of a transmission) are not used "simply to attract attention", are not intended to entertain, and do not violate any part of either of these sections. You might want to rethink some of your statements before you put them out here, not-not-Jorge. In this case, you're not 100% correct. -SSB Please do not confuse him with facts. I just posted the facts Randy sorry you don't agree with them he posted his opinion. since when is opinion facts? snif sniff ... hey randy you stink.... Look in the middle of the picture of the back of the radio. See the FCC ID? Look here randy, who knows what that fcc tag is but this is right from the horse's mouth(FCC) who do you prefer to believe???? If the FCC says it is not type certified they most certainly should know, why do you continue to argue your wrong and you can't stand the fact i once again gotcha. Now if they are So "Legal" there should be plenty of them on the market, you have all your hopes tied up in a loser. get over it I own you. So anyway, what tone do you like in illegal roger beeps? Personally, I prefer 103.5, not obtrusive, and if you use a really good woofer (15" or larger), you get that thump. 1k is way too tweety. |
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:37:29 GMT, "U Know Who"
wrote in : snip So anyway, what tone do you like in illegal roger beeps? Personally, I prefer 103.5, not obtrusive, and if you use a really good woofer (15" or larger), you get that thump. 1k is way too tweety. Someone around here is using the old EBS tones with a decay of about two seconds. Very unique. I've been thinking about building something like a 'CB caller-ID' box. Data could be sent at 1200 baud FSK at the beginning and end of each transmission. That data could include an email addy, callsign, or even just a handle. It would be really cool during a net to see the names pop up in a list on a display. |
"U Know Who" wrote in message ... "itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge" wrote in message ... "U Know Who" wrote in : "itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge" wrote in message ... "U Know Who" wrote in : "SideBand" wrote in message om... itoldyouiamnotiamnotgeorge wrote: Rule 13 - Illegal Communications {A} You must NOT use a CB station- [1] in connection with activity which is against federal, state or local law; [2] to transmit obscene, indecent or profane words, language or meaning; [3] to interfere intentionally with the communications of another CB station; [4] to transmit one-way communications, EXCEPT for emergency communications, traveler assistance, brief tests (radio checks) or voice paging; [5] to advertise or solicit the sale of any goods or services; [6] to transmit music, whistling, sound effects or any material to amuse or entertain; [7] to transmit any sound effect solely to attract attention; [8] to transmit the word "MAYDAY" or use any other international distress signal, EXCEPT when your station is located in a ship, aircraft or other vehicle which is threatened with GRAVE AND IMMINENT danger and you are requesting IMMEDIATE assistance. [9] to communicate with, or ATTEMPT to communicate with, any CB station more than 155.3 miles (250 kilometers) away [10] to advertise a political candidate or political campaign (You may use your CB radio for the business or organizational aspects of a campaign, if you follow all other applicable rules); [11] to communicate with stations in other countries, except stations in Canada (on General Radio Service). [12] to transmit a false or deceptive communication. {B} You must not use a CB station to transmit communications intended for live or delayed rebroadcast on radio or television. You may use your CB station to gather news items or to prepare programs. Rule 25 - Modifications to Transmitters {A} You must not make or have any one else make any internal modification to your CB transmitter. {B} Internal modification does NOT include: [1] Repair, or servicing of a CB station transmitter; or [2] Changing plug-in modules which were type-accepted as part of your CB transmitter {C} You must not operate a CB transmitter which has been modified by anyone in any way, including modification to operate on unauthorized frequencies or with illegal power. Not so sure they're 100% illegal: 1. It doesn't take internal modifications to transmit a roger beep on a CB radio. External electronics can accomplish this. Microphones do not have to be type accepted and can include this circuitry. 2. Roger beeps used for their intended purpose (that is, signaling the end of a transmission) are not used "simply to attract attention", are not intended to entertain, and do not violate any part of either of these sections. You might want to rethink some of your statements before you put them out here, not-not-Jorge. In this case, you're not 100% correct. -SSB Please do not confuse him with facts. I just posted the facts Randy sorry you don't agree with them he posted his opinion. since when is opinion facts? snif sniff ... hey randy you stink.... Look in the middle of the picture of the back of the radio. See the FCC ID? Look here randy, who knows what that fcc tag is but this is right from the horse's mouth(FCC) who do you prefer to believe???? If the FCC says it is not type certified they most certainly should know, why do you continue to argue your wrong and you can't stand the fact i once again gotcha. Now if they are So "Legal" there should be plenty of them on the market, you have all your hopes tied up in a loser. get over it I own you. So anyway, what tone do you like in illegal roger beeps? Personally, I prefer 103.5, not obtrusive, and if you use a really good woofer (15" or larger), you get that thump. 1k is way too tweety. Too funny. Dave even has proved him wrong with the statement about FRS having it and they fall under part 95, same as CB. http://www.dragondistributing.com/co...talkradios.htm Everyone of the COBRA FRS radio's have a roger beep, again, FCC certified & falls under part 95 rules http://www.dragondistributing.com/co...talkradios.htm Wow! Midland's are FCC certified and have a roger beep Hey, MURS has roger beeps, FCC Certified and falls under part 95...................... LOL!!!! He'll continue to argue, just to argue. -- __ o /' ) /' ( , __/' ) .' `; o _.-~~~~' ``---..__ .' ; _.--' b) LANDSHARK ``--...____. .' ( _. )). `-._ `\|\|\|\|)-.....___.- `-. __...--'-.'. `---......____...---`.___.'----... .' `.; `-` ` |
Frank Gilliland wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 13:37:29 GMT, "U Know Who" wrote in : snip So anyway, what tone do you like in illegal roger beeps? Personally, I prefer 103.5, not obtrusive, and if you use a really good woofer (15" or larger), you get that thump. 1k is way too tweety. Someone around here is using the old EBS tones with a decay of about two seconds. Very unique. I've been thinking about building something like a 'CB caller-ID' box. Data could be sent at 1200 baud FSK at the beginning and end of each transmission. That data could include an email addy, callsign, or even just a handle. It would be really cool during a net to see the names pop up in a list on a display. That'd be neat, except that FSK isn't an authorized emission type on CB... Shame, that, too..It'd be neat to see FSK and PSK on the regular 40 channels. -SSB |
Richard wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 00:03:11 GMT SideBand wrote: Not so sure they're 100% illegal: 1. It doesn't take internal modifications to transmit a roger beep on a CB radio. External electronics can accomplish this. Microphones do not have to be type accepted and can include this circuitry. 2. Roger beeps used for their intended purpose (that is, signaling the end of a transmission) are not used "simply to attract attention", are not intended to entertain, and do not violate any part of either of these sections. You might want to rethink some of your statements before you put them out here, not-not-Jorge. In this case, you're not 100% correct. -SSB Yup. The rules clearly state INTERNAL modifications. It says nothing of external add ons. However, it does state, "NO SOUND EFFECTS". So after a 10 minute disertation, you end with, "This is a radio check. beep beep". It does say "no sound effects" in that you are correct. But if you read to the end of the sentence, it also says that said sound effects should not be to entertain, etc, etc, etc... I stand by my statement that a roger beep used for its intended purpose, which is to signify the end of a transmission, is not illegal. Annoying as hell in some cases, but not illegal. -SSB |
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