In article ,
Dave Hall wrote:

| Quite a few according to many of the more recent FCC enforcement
| actions. It would seem that the FCC is more likely to pop a licensed
| ham for operating out of their assigned bands, than they are in
| popping an unlicensed radio pirate.

It's probably because it's a lot easier to track down -- after all, if
the licensed ham is properly IDing himself, it's trivial for anybody
who listens to look up that call sign and find that his ham class
doesn't let him transmit there.

| If you are going to freeband, having a ham license may actually be
| detrimental.

Freebanders don't generally ID themselves at all. To actually track
one down would be a lot harder.

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On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 20:41:06 GMT, (Doug McLaren)
wrote:

In article ,
Dave Hall wrote:

| Quite a few according to many of the more recent FCC enforcement
| actions. It would seem that the FCC is more likely to pop a licensed
| ham for operating out of their assigned bands, than they are in
| popping an unlicensed radio pirate.

It's probably because it's a lot easier to track down -- after all, if
the licensed ham is properly IDing himself, it's trivial for anybody
who listens to look up that call sign and find that his ham class
doesn't let him transmit there.

| If you are going to freeband, having a ham license may actually be
| detrimental.

Freebanders don't generally ID themselves at all. To actually track
one down would be a lot harder.

But having a ham license gives freebanders access to equipment that
normally would not be available to unlicensed individuals. Some
retailers will not sell gear to unlicensed persons, nor will some
hamfests award prizes to those who hold no license, offering an
equivalent cash value instead.

On Wed, 16 Feb 2005 20:41:06 GMT, (Doug McLaren)
wrote:

In article ,
Dave Hall wrote:

| Quite a few according to many of the more recent FCC enforcement
| actions. It would seem that the FCC is more likely to pop a licensed
| ham for operating out of their assigned bands, than they are in
| popping an unlicensed radio pirate.

It's probably because it's a lot easier to track down -- after all, if
the licensed ham is properly IDing himself, it's trivial for anybody
who listens to look up that call sign and find that his ham class
doesn't let him transmit there.

I doubt if the hams who freeband are dumb enough to use their calls
there (but you never know). But I wouldn't be surprised to learn that
they are "recognized" there by other people who turn them in.


| If you are going to freeband, having a ham license may actually be
| detrimental.

Freebanders don't generally ID themselves at all. To actually track
one down would be a lot harder.

Yes, I agree. It just seems funny that the latest freeband bust seem
to be hams running out of band over unlicensed operation.

It would seem that Riley H. is much more concerned with keeping
"honest" hams honest, rather than eradicating the freeband.

Dave
"Sandbagger"

I doubt if the hams who freeband are dumb enough to use their calls
there (but you never know). But I wouldn't be surprised to learn that
they are "recognized" there by other people who turn them in.

Some might ID by mistake out of habit before they realize that
they are out of band.....

WOuld it be illegal to use my callsign as my "cb handle" on
CB using legal CB equipment? Or would I be using my ham
license out of band? Not that anyone would really care, but....



| If you are going to freeband, having a ham license may actually be
| detrimental.

Freebanders don't generally ID themselves at all. To actually track
one down would be a lot harder.


Yes, I agree. It just seems funny that the latest freeband bust seem
to be hams running out of band over unlicensed operation.


I've heard second hand of hams, bored of regular ham bands,
doing "freeband" for a change of pace.

robert casey wrote:
-snip-
WOuld it be illegal to use my callsign as my "cb handle" on
CB using legal CB equipment? pace.

Nope.

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On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 20:46:47 GMT, robert casey
wrote:



I doubt if the hams who freeband are dumb enough to use their calls
there (but you never know). But I wouldn't be surprised to learn that
they are "recognized" there by other people who turn them in.

Some might ID by mistake out of habit before they realize that
they are out of band.....

That could happen. I've caught myself almost doing it a few times.


WOuld it be illegal to use my callsign as my "cb handle" on
CB using legal CB equipment? Or would I be using my ham
license out of band? Not that anyone would really care, but....

If you are running legal CB gear on legal CB channels, you certainly
can use a ham call as a "handle". Why someone would is another
question.





| If you are going to freeband, having a ham license may actually be
| detrimental.

Freebanders don't generally ID themselves at all. To actually track
one down would be a lot harder.


Yes, I agree. It just seems funny that the latest freeband bust seem
to be hams running out of band over unlicensed operation.


I've heard second hand of hams, bored of regular ham bands,
doing "freeband" for a change of pace.


Many hams used to be CB'ers/Freebanders, and like to "return to the
roost" once in a while.

Dave
"Sandbagger"
http://home.ptd.net/~n3cvj

Many hams used to be CB'ers/Freebanders, and like to "return to the
roost" once in a while.


I got my start in radio with a legal CB radio back in 1976.
Then got a ham license and never went back. If I wanted
to "freeband" I can legally use the 10 meter band as a ham
for the same operations. But with the sunspots out, I
can use 20 or lower just as legally.

On Fri, 18 Feb 2005 19:42:08 GMT, robert casey
wrote:





Many hams used to be CB'ers/Freebanders, and like to "return to the
roost" once in a while.


I got my start in radio with a legal CB radio back in 1976.
Then got a ham license and never went back. If I wanted
to "freeband" I can legally use the 10 meter band as a ham
for the same operations. But with the sunspots out, I
can use 20 or lower just as legally.

Certainly. I agree. But some people do things differently. When 10/11
meters opens up, there is often only a handful of hams on 10, but
there are hundreds (or more) people on 11 meters. The DX potential is
better.

I don't condone it, but I do understand it.

Dave
"Sandbagger"