On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:40:56 GMT, "Landshark"
wrote:


"Dave Hall" wrote in message
.. .
Yes, it's deliberately done with a bit of a shock value. It's to
counter the rampant mindset that someone isn't really doing anything
wrong simply because the FCC is too incompetent and understaffed to
catch them yet.

Dave

Well Dave, I'm not going to continue, it's fruitless. In
closing you can go on your crusade against the FCC
scofflaws, but their "crime" as you like to put it is
very minor. If they are using Freeband or amps, their
actions are much less of a consequence. Litterbugs
add tons of garbage that costs millions a year to clean.
Speeders cost millions a year to enforce against and kill
hundreds of people while causing accidents because of speeding.
I just find that there are more important things to
worry about than someone that's using power or talking
on the freeband. I worry about speeders maybe hitting my
kids, drunk driver hitting someone I care about, drugs in
my kids school etc etc, not about labeling someone a
criminal for using a linear or freeband. You can go around
and see sociopath and anarchist around every corner, I fore
one am going to worry about what directly will affect my
family, not what is illegal and not going to affect virtually
anyone such as freeband use and linear.


Mark,

Please don't get me wrong here. I'm not on any "crusade" I'm simply
pointing out a matter of fact with regard to what the people who break
the law by operating out of band technically are. Once you key the
mike on the freeband, you are breaking the law. A law which carried
criminal penalties if and when one is caught. But that is only a
formality.

If those who rabidly attack this truth would simply own up to their
complicity in this area, then we can move on. As long as people live
in denial, there will be no progress.

Personally, I don't care about freebanding or DX. Hell, some of my
best friends are freebanders. I used to do it myself. But I am not
trying to kid myself or other people by attempting to downplay what
this activity is in the eyes of the law.

Do what you want. I'm not turning people in. I'm only pointing out
what it is that they are guilty of.

Dave
"Sandbagger"

"Dave Hall" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 13:40:56 GMT, "Landshark"
wrote:


"Dave Hall" wrote in message
. ..
Yes, it's deliberately done with a bit of a shock value. It's to
counter the rampant mindset that someone isn't really doing anything
wrong simply because the FCC is too incompetent and understaffed to
catch them yet.

Dave

Well Dave, I'm not going to continue, it's fruitless. In
closing you can go on your crusade against the FCC
scofflaws, but their "crime" as you like to put it is
very minor. If they are using Freeband or amps, their
actions are much less of a consequence. Litterbugs
add tons of garbage that costs millions a year to clean.
Speeders cost millions a year to enforce against and kill
hundreds of people while causing accidents because of speeding.
I just find that there are more important things to
worry about than someone that's using power or talking
on the freeband. I worry about speeders maybe hitting my
kids, drunk driver hitting someone I care about, drugs in
my kids school etc etc, not about labeling someone a
criminal for using a linear or freeband. You can go around
and see sociopath and anarchist around every corner, I fore
one am going to worry about what directly will affect my
family, not what is illegal and not going to affect virtually
anyone such as freeband use and linear.


Mark,

Please don't get me wrong here. I'm not on any "crusade" I'm simply
pointing out a matter of fact with regard to what the people who break
the law by operating out of band technically are. Once you key the
mike on the freeband, you are breaking the law. A law which carried
criminal penalties if and when one is caught. But that is only a
formality.

Ok, fine. Understand Dave, you come across as an over-zealous
person on a crusade against "anyone" that does something illegal, not a
thing a normal person would do.


If those who rabidly attack this truth would simply own up to their
complicity in this area, then we can move on.

What? You mean turn themselves in? millions of people
in this country break laws everyday, are they all going to
walk down to the jail and say "I just broke this law,
arrest me". I'm sure they all sleep very soundly every night.

As long as people live
in denial, there will be no progress.

Personally, I don't care about freebanding or DX. Hell, some of my
best friends are freebanders. I used to do it myself. But I am not
trying to kid myself or other people by attempting to downplay what
this activity is in the eyes of the law.

It's illegal, as copying video tapes, DVD, CD, alcohol
across state lines, etc etc.


Do what you want. I'm not turning people in. I'm only pointing out
what it is that they are guilty of.

Dave

I never thought you were turning people in.
They are not guilty of anything, other than
their conscience.

From: (Dave=A0Hall)

Do what you want. I'm not turning people in.

Wouldn't mean **** if you did. You're nobody and your word is ****.

I'm only pointing out what it is that they are

guilty of.


No one is guilty of anything simply because you pronounce it. Get over
the deity complex you hold of others but thirst for yourself.

DaviD Hall Jr.

N3CVJ

"Sandbagger"