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Stop posting! I am tired of responding!
John "Steveo" wrote in message ... "John Smith" wrote: Oh yeah! I'll get right on that! John "Steveo" wrote in message ... "John Smith" wrote: I came and I ain't in a hurry, I brought a lunch... Then please don't top post so much. Top poster/sig file test. -- Well it ain't the first close call I ever had as I'm sure you already know. I had some help from you Lord and the devil himself, but it's been strictly touch and go. Steve Earle |
Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 25 Apr 2005 23:29:59 GMT, Steveo wrote in Pass the bar rag, Frank. I have some clean up to do. Spontaneous vomiting? or did you just spill your milk? None of those. I'm pondering faking a trip with mapquest. Still sore about that, huh? Oh well. Not at all. I have trouble with fence straddlers tho. Steveo means either you're for "freebanding" or against it. And since he's a freebander, he's for it, and can't stand anyone talking against it (or he'll throw a tantrum) :-) |
On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:10:03 -0700, "John Smith"
wrote: Newbie, nah, if I haven't been around the block with this bunch, then it was another one which looked so much alike--might as well have been 'em... I claim what I am saying is truth--if it isn't then tell me how so, we can be debate, we can argue--in the end, all which matters is the truth--let the chips fall where they might... I came and I ain't in a hurry, I brought a lunch... Regards, John John; So what was the intent of your original post? The truth is most hams don't care about "freeband" I also brought lunch, plus a 12 pack... |
You my friend, are an idiot!!!
Most hams feel it takes a "musical ear" to be proficient with morse code--I think a simple mind is best, I struggle with a fast key--only use it for the test--quickly drop it after!!! 50Mhz and above works best with bounce, with enough power (and there is something wrong with the ionosphere these days--holes yanno!) I suppose bounce at 27Mhz is a possibility--however, how many other cb'ers would have a ant pointed at the moon? Expect no more answers from me--you are not on a level to be given this consideration. You are simply displaying the traits of a control freak, and attempting to use cheap shots to make others answerable to you--I have not the time--be interesting or be silent... I can clearly see you have the petty traits most hams display--you may be a lost soul... get your license! You are entitled to your opinions, if you think you will upset me with your rantings--think again... I support free speech.... however, if you have no respect for logic and the obivious it will show and you will be known for such--proceed as you please... John "Frank Gilliland" wrote in message ... On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:44:42 -0700, "John Smith" wrote in : Err; I have been known to bounce around a bit... You have done moon-bounce with a CB? Right. I ain't no musician and don't like 'em much (but like the rock n' roll music!) And, anyone who taps code and fancies himself a muscian needs a three-day observation! Where did that come from? I said nothing about musicians. CCW may be an abbreviation for a band, but I was referring to Coherent CW which is a slow type of Morse code used for weak-signal work. I am leery of anything circling this planet (ya never know, may be aliens whom crawled out of mud puddles!) Then you should probably avoid cell-phones and long-distance carriers, since most of them use satellites. And television is a no-no because most of their feeds come the same route. Disregard weather forcasts based on GEOS photos. In fact, just browsing the net can use a large number of satellites in a short amount of time. But on the flip side, those CIA spy satellites sure don't seem to work worth a damn..... must be because of alien interference, huh? I tend to shy away from pseudo-governmental organizations--and the boys who like to wear the little uniforms, patches, badges and hats and play games... Then you have a problem with the Shriners as well as most professional sports organizations. etc, etc,... I still like the boy scouts, apple pie, Benjamin Franklin, the miltia--and wish every town and city had one--complete with radios--etc... .....um, ok. So? If you think gov't is the answer and it is going to save you--think again... it will be the same way as when we began this country, there will be a government which IS the problem... it will be "We the people..." who provide the cure... Oh great, another anarchist. I have something people have forgotten about, faith in my neighbors and countrymen, and a knowledge of how average men rise to meet great challenges, undertakings and disasters--again, our nation is a firm lesson in this--why does everyone keep thinking we are "the great civilization?" The Romans thought that yanno? A good lesson is Germany, it was the highly educated who helped Hitler the most--the doctors, judges, lawyers, etc... carried out his plans... without them, Hitler was nobody... they thought themselves "special" and "entitled", thank God they were shown different... it is not my education which makes me a valuable neighbor--it is my standing on the shoulders of my forefathers... Yet you spit on their graves by encouraging lawlessness. If ever we face disaster, it will be more likely for some unheard of wino or schmuck or just everyday-Joe to rise to meet the occasion than a gov't entity... Seems to me that we have had plenty of disasters over the years. And if I recall, the government was able to handle each and every one of them..... more or less. But what does that have to do with the topic? but politicians will be there to take the credit, hide the real heroes, and pick plastic heroes who will support their campaigns... no, it never changes, it is a vicious circle... Nothing has changed human nature... only some men have begun to dream in fantasy colored pictures again, and once again we are in danger... You have issues. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
scroll down if your memory span is so short you have forgotten the
conversation... John "Lancer" wrote in message ... On 26 Apr 2005 03:30:18 GMT, Steveo wrote: "John Smith" wrote: I came and I ain't in a hurry, I brought a lunch... Then please don't top post so much. Why? Everyone knows that its normal to read from bottom to top.. |
If that is true, they CERTAINLY would not care about CB--they do!!!
Get real or chat with others who have no respect for reality... John "Lancer" wrote in message ... On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:10:03 -0700, "John Smith" wrote: Newbie, nah, if I haven't been around the block with this bunch, then it was another one which looked so much alike--might as well have been 'em... I claim what I am saying is truth--if it isn't then tell me how so, we can be debate, we can argue--in the end, all which matters is the truth--let the chips fall where they might... I came and I ain't in a hurry, I brought a lunch... Regards, John John; So what was the intent of your original post? The truth is most hams don't care about "freeband" I also brought lunch, plus a 12 pack... |
On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:51:28 -0700, "John Smith"
wrote: If that is true, they CERTAINLY would not care about CB--they do!!! Get real or chat with others who have no respect for reality... John Your own experience would prove otherwise. You asked a lot of questions about your freeband antenna in the amateur.antenna group. No one put you down or batted an eye over it. You could have ask the same questions about a "cb" antennas in that group and received the answers that you were looking for. Get Real? Whatever John, your just looking for an arguement... Have a nice day.. |
On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:49:10 -0700, "John Smith"
wrote: scroll down if your memory span is so short you have forgotten the conversation... John "Lancer" wrote in message ... On 26 Apr 2005 03:30:18 GMT, Steveo wrote: "John Smith" wrote: I came and I ain't in a hurry, I brought a lunch... Then please don't top post so much. Why? Everyone knows that its normal to read from bottom to top.. Huh? What conversation are you talking about? Are you mixing up posts now, answering one post in another? |
Oh my... you are forgetting the conversation...
John "Lancer" wrote in message ... On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:49:10 -0700, "John Smith" wrote: scroll down if your memory span is so short you have forgotten the conversation... John "Lancer" wrote in message ... On 26 Apr 2005 03:30:18 GMT, Steveo wrote: "John Smith" wrote: I came and I ain't in a hurry, I brought a lunch... Then please don't top post so much. Why? Everyone knows that its normal to read from bottom to top.. Huh? What conversation are you talking about? Are you mixing up posts now, answering one post in another? |
On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:37:08 -0700, "John Smith"
wrote: Oh my... you are forgetting the conversation... John "Lancer" wrote in message ... On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:49:10 -0700, "John Smith" wrote: scroll down if your memory span is so short you have forgotten the conversation... John "Lancer" wrote in message ... On 26 Apr 2005 03:30:18 GMT, Steveo wrote: "John Smith" wrote: I came and I ain't in a hurry, I brought a lunch... Then please don't top post so much. Why? Everyone knows that its normal to read from bottom to top.. Huh? What conversation are you talking about? Are you mixing up posts now, answering one post in another? Oh My, you can't even a follow post... I mentioned that in another post.. Please try and keep up... |
Hmmm, actually, that "freeband antenna" is operating on under my ham license
on 10 meters... The bandwidth of that ant is too narrow for freeband work... I use a beacon on Mt. Diablo in the San Joaquin Valley as a signal source for ant testing... it operates 24/7 on Channel 14 on CB... sends the call "AOH" @ 7 WPM repetitively... You need to follow the conversations closer... perhaps you do need me to bottom post... Regards, John "Lancer" wrote in message ... On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:51:28 -0700, "John Smith" wrote: If that is true, they CERTAINLY would not care about CB--they do!!! Get real or chat with others who have no respect for reality... John Your own experience would prove otherwise. You asked a lot of questions about your freeband antenna in the amateur.antenna group. No one put you down or batted an eye over it. You could have ask the same questions about a "cb" antennas in that group and received the answers that you were looking for. Get Real? Whatever John, your just looking for an arguement... Have a nice day.. |
Lancer wrote:
On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:10:03 -0700, "John Smith" wrote: Newbie, nah, if I haven't been around the block with this bunch, then it was another one which looked so much alike--might as well have been 'em... I claim what I am saying is truth--if it isn't then tell me how so, we can be debate, we can argue--in the end, all which matters is the truth--let the chips fall where they might... I came and I ain't in a hurry, I brought a lunch... Regards, John John; So what was the intent of your original post? The truth is most hams don't care about "freeband" I also brought lunch, plus a 12 pack... Hand me one of those please, Lance...no not that, a sandwich! -- Well it ain't the first close call I ever had as I'm sure you already know. I had some help from you Lord and the devil himself, but it's been strictly touch and go. Steve Earle |
Lancer wrote:
On 26 Apr 2005 03:30:18 GMT, Steveo wrote: "John Smith" wrote: I came and I ain't in a hurry, I brought a lunch... Then please don't top post so much. Why? Everyone knows that its normal to read from bottom to top.. A. Cuz if ****s up the thread. Q. What's wrong with top posting? -- Well it ain't the first close call I ever had as I'm sure you already know. I had some help from you Lord and the devil himself, but it's been strictly touch and go. Steve Earle |
"John Smith" wrote:
If that is true, they CERTAINLY would not care about CB--they do!!! Get real or chat with others who have no respect for reality... John Stfu, top posting twit. "Lancer" wrote in message ... On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:10:03 -0700, "John Smith" wrote: Newbie, nah, if I haven't been around the block with this bunch, then it was another one which looked so much alike--might as well have been 'em... I claim what I am saying is truth--if it isn't then tell me how so, we can be debate, we can argue--in the end, all which matters is the truth--let the chips fall where they might... I came and I ain't in a hurry, I brought a lunch... Regards, John John; So what was the intent of your original post? The truth is most hams don't care about "freeband" I also brought lunch, plus a 12 pack... -- Well it ain't the first close call I ever had as I'm sure you already know. I had some help from you Lord and the devil himself, but it's been strictly touch and go. Steve Earle |
On 26 Apr 2005 16:19:56 GMT, Steveo wrote:
Lancer wrote: On 26 Apr 2005 03:30:18 GMT, Steveo wrote: "John Smith" wrote: I came and I ain't in a hurry, I brought a lunch... Then please don't top post so much. Why? Everyone knows that its normal to read from bottom to top.. A. Cuz if ****s up the thread. Q. What's wrong with top posting? LOL!! Good Example... |
On 26 Apr 2005 16:18:38 GMT, Steveo wrote:
Lancer wrote: On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:10:03 -0700, "John Smith" wrote: Newbie, nah, if I haven't been around the block with this bunch, then it was another one which looked so much alike--might as well have been 'em... I claim what I am saying is truth--if it isn't then tell me how so, we can be debate, we can argue--in the end, all which matters is the truth--let the chips fall where they might... I came and I ain't in a hurry, I brought a lunch... Regards, John John; So what was the intent of your original post? The truth is most hams don't care about "freeband" I also brought lunch, plus a 12 pack... Hand me one of those please, Lance...no not that, a sandwich! I thought beer was a liquid sandwich..? On that subject, do they sell Negro Modelo up in your neck of the woods? |
On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:42:36 -0700, "John Smith"
wrote: Hmmm, actually, that "freeband antenna" is operating on under my ham license on 10 meters... The bandwidth of that ant is too narrow for freeband work... I use a beacon on Mt. Diablo in the San Joaquin Valley as a signal source for ant testing... it operates 24/7 on Channel 14 on CB... sends the call "AOH" @ 7 WPM repetitively... You need to follow the conversations closer... perhaps you do need me to bottom post... Regards, John Your antenna is licensed? I plotted your antenna, it easily has a 1 meg bandwidth. Try bottom posting, you stand a better chance of understanding your own posts.. |
On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 17:59:04 GMT, JustÃ*n Käse
wrote: In posted on Tue, 26 Apr 2005 16:47:42 GMT, Lancer wrote: On 26 Apr 2005 16:19:56 GMT, Steveo wrote: Lancer wrote: On 26 Apr 2005 03:30:18 GMT, Steveo wrote: "John Smith" wrote: I came and I ain't in a hurry, I brought a lunch... Then please don't top post so much. Why? Everyone knows that its normal to read from bottom to top.. A. Cuz if ****s up the thread. Q. What's wrong with top posting? LOL!! Good Example... http://tinyurl.com/cta3q Too Funny... thanks... |
I as I said, exercise your free speech as you choose...
If you come up with anything intelligent/interesting--I'll be here... Regards, John "Frank Gilliland" wrote in message ... On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:47:55 -0700, "John Smith" wrote in : You my friend, are an idiot!!! So I've been told on more than one occasion. But let's see what's in -your- post...... Most hams feel it takes a "musical ear" to be proficient with morse code-- Really? I've never heard that from -any- ham. I know Morse myself and I wouldn't say it takes a musical ear, but then I'm not a ham -or- a musician. So do you have any references to back up your statement that "most hams" feel this way? snip 50Mhz and above works best with bounce, with enough power Really? I've never heard that, either. So if I want to talk to someone across town on, say, 2m, I should forget the repeaters, crank up the amp and howl at the moon? (and there is something wrong with the ionosphere these days--holes yanno!) I suppose bounce at 27Mhz is a possibility--however, how many other cb'ers would have a ant pointed at the moon? The ozone hole(s) might make a difference on 11m if you happen to live in Nome, AK, but I doubt that the mainland US is going to see a big difference anytime soon. As long as skip continues to happen then the ionosphere is still in good shape, and you probably won't have too much luck with CB EME. But that didn't answer my question: Have you done moon bounce with CB? Expect no more answers from me--you are not on a level to be given this consideration. You are simply displaying the traits of a control freak, and attempting to use cheap shots to make others answerable to you--I have not the time--be interesting or be silent... Your cop-out came earlier than I expected, but it -was- expected. I can clearly see you have the petty traits most hams display--you may be a lost soul... get your license! By "petty traits" do you mean pointing out the absurdity of the arguments you use to defend your anti-hammie attitude? Guilty as charged. You are entitled to your opinions, if you think you will upset me with your rantings--think again... I really don't care if you get upset or not. Why did you even bring it up as a topic of discussion? I support free speech.... As do I. I even consider it a right. however, if you have no respect for logic and the obivious it will show and you will be known for such--proceed as you please... ....."logic and the obvious"? Like avoiding sat-comm because of possible alien influence? And working moon bounce on CB? Of course you realize that the moon is a natural satellite complete with alien mud puddles, don't you? Then there is your statement that only musicians can learn Morse code, your anti-government diatribe that came out of nowhere, and your suggestion that education is a bad thing because it will inevitably lead to Hitleresque facism in the US. "Logic and the obvious" indeed. John, you are a certifiable whacko. Welcome to RRCB! ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
Create a msg rule and auto-delete my posts--it'll be easier on ya...
John "Steveo" wrote in message ... Lancer wrote: On 26 Apr 2005 03:30:18 GMT, Steveo wrote: "John Smith" wrote: I came and I ain't in a hurry, I brought a lunch... Then please don't top post so much. Why? Everyone knows that its normal to read from bottom to top.. A. Cuz if ****s up the thread. Q. What's wrong with top posting? -- Well it ain't the first close call I ever had as I'm sure you already know. I had some help from you Lord and the devil himself, but it's been strictly touch and go. Steve Earle |
Besides giving proof of ignorant freebanders/cb'ers, your posts are
useless.... Regards, John "Lancer" wrote in message ... On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 08:42:36 -0700, "John Smith" wrote: Hmmm, actually, that "freeband antenna" is operating on under my ham license on 10 meters... The bandwidth of that ant is too narrow for freeband work... I use a beacon on Mt. Diablo in the San Joaquin Valley as a signal source for ant testing... it operates 24/7 on Channel 14 on CB... sends the call "AOH" @ 7 WPM repetitively... You need to follow the conversations closer... perhaps you do need me to bottom post... Regards, John Your antenna is licensed? I plotted your antenna, it easily has a 1 meg bandwidth. Try bottom posting, you stand a better chance of understanding your own posts.. |
Lancer wrote:
On 26 Apr 2005 16:18:38 GMT, Steveo wrote: I also brought lunch, plus a 12 pack... Hand me one of those please, Lance...no not that, a sandwich! I thought beer was a liquid sandwich..? On that subject, do they sell Negro Modelo up in your neck of the woods? I dunno about that **** water, we do have Rolling Rock tho.. -- Well it ain't the first close call I ever had as I'm sure you already know. I had some help from you Lord and the devil himself, but it's been strictly touch and go. Steve Earle |
Lancer wrote:
I thought beer was a liquid sandwich..? ^^^^ sig file material?^^^^ -- Well it ain't the first close call I ever had as I'm sure you already know. I had some help from you Lord and the devil himself, but it's been strictly touch and go. Steve Earle |
Justín Käse wrote:
Posting at the top because that's where the cursor happened to be is like ****ting in your pants because that's where your asshole happened to be. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Sig file material?^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ha -- Well it ain't the first close call I ever had as I'm sure you already know. I had some help from you Lord and the devil himself, but it's been strictly touch and go. Steve Earle |
Why do you think I would even consider doing things back-asswards?
I don't want to scroll though a bunch of chit I have already seen... if you want to, cut and paste the old text at the top! Regards, John "Lancer" wrote in message ews.com... On 26 Apr 2005 21:39:46 GMT, Steveo wrote: Justín Käse wrote: Posting at the top because that's where the cursor happened to be is like ****ting in your pants because that's where your asshole happened to be. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Sig file material?^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ha Now that would be a good one.. That response was to someone that was using outlook express and couldn't figure out how to move his cursor down to bottom post.. Now what does John Smith use, Hmmm that would be OE... |
Lancer wrote:
On 26 Apr 2005 21:36:03 GMT, Steveo wrote: Lancer wrote: On 26 Apr 2005 16:18:38 GMT, Steveo wrote: I also brought lunch, plus a 12 pack... Hand me one of those please, Lance...no not that, a sandwich! I thought beer was a liquid sandwich..? On that subject, do they sell Negro Modelo up in your neck of the woods? I dunno about that **** water, we do have Rolling Rock tho.. We have that here also, not as good as Grain Belt. **** water ehh? Its actually pretty good.. I wuz only kidding about the **** water. I'll have to try it. |
Lancer wrote:
On 26 Apr 2005 21:39:46 GMT, Steveo wrote: Justín Käse wrote: Posting at the top because that's where the cursor happened to be is like ****ting in your pants because that's where your asshole happened to be. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Sig file material?^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ha Now that would be a good one.. That response was to someone that was using outlook express and couldn't figure out how to move his cursor down to bottom post.. Now what does John Smith use, Hmmm that would be OE... He'z a lazy *******. That scrolling down is taxing. |
Here ya go, now you will not have all that text you are worried about...
John |
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From: (Frank=A0Gilliland)
On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:44:42 -0700, "John Smith" wrote in : Oh great, another anarchist. Ha,,,,this room is getting crowded. |
That is EXCACTLY the point I was making a long time ago (in a galaxy
radio far far away) The truckers on 28.085 is channel 19 on most export radios on Band f or g or d or c or....... you get my point, hams!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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On 26 Apr 2005 20:17:23 -0700, "CB outlaw"
wrote: That is EXCACTLY the point I was making a long time ago (in a galaxy radio far far away) The truckers on 28.085 is channel 19 on most export radios on Band f or g or d or c or....... you get my point, hams!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What point was that? Dave "Sandbagger" |
On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:54:39 -0700, Frank Gilliland
wrote: On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:47:55 -0700, "John Smith" wrote in : You my friend, are an idiot!!! So I've been told on more than one occasion. But let's see what's in -your- post...... Most hams feel it takes a "musical ear" to be proficient with morse code-- Really? I've never heard that from -any- ham. I know Morse myself and I wouldn't say it takes a musical ear, but then I'm not a ham -or- a musician. So do you have any references to back up your statement that "most hams" feel this way? snip 50Mhz and above works best with bounce, with enough power Really? I've never heard that, either. So if I want to talk to someone across town on, say, 2m, I should forget the repeaters, crank up the amp and howl at the moon? (and there is something wrong with the ionosphere these days--holes yanno!) I suppose bounce at 27Mhz is a possibility--however, how many other cb'ers would have a ant pointed at the moon? The ozone hole(s) might make a difference on 11m if you happen to live in Nome, AK, but I doubt that the mainland US is going to see a big difference anytime soon. As long as skip continues to happen then the ionosphere is still in good shape, and you probably won't have too much luck with CB EME. But that didn't answer my question: Have you done moon bounce with CB? Expect no more answers from me--you are not on a level to be given this consideration. You are simply displaying the traits of a control freak, and attempting to use cheap shots to make others answerable to you--I have not the time--be interesting or be silent... Your cop-out came earlier than I expected, but it -was- expected. I can clearly see you have the petty traits most hams display--you may be a lost soul... get your license! By "petty traits" do you mean pointing out the absurdity of the arguments you use to defend your anti-hammie attitude? Guilty as charged. You are entitled to your opinions, if you think you will upset me with your rantings--think again... I really don't care if you get upset or not. Why did you even bring it up as a topic of discussion? I support free speech.... As do I. I even consider it a right. however, if you have no respect for logic and the obivious it will show and you will be known for such--proceed as you please... ....."logic and the obvious"? Like avoiding sat-comm because of possible alien influence? And working moon bounce on CB? Of course you realize that the moon is a natural satellite complete with alien mud puddles, don't you? Then there is your statement that only musicians can learn Morse code, your anti-government diatribe that came out of nowhere, and your suggestion that education is a bad thing because it will inevitably lead to Hitleresque facism in the US. "Logic and the obvious" indeed. John, you are a certifiable whacko. Welcome to RRCB! Hey Frank, who's your new friend? Dave "Sandbagger" http://home.ptd.net/~n3cvj |
On 25 Apr 2005 07:16:18 -0700, "CB outlaw"
wrote: I think you are absolutly right, John I think the "hams" are jeolous of us CB'ers and freebanders cause we are PROFESSIONAL dx'ers while they are just amateur dx'ers. What do you think? Regards from CB OUTLAW (beep as in roger) I think you should stay away from those magic mushrooms..... Dave "Sandbagger" http://home.ptd.net/~n3cvj |
On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:03:40 -0700, "John Smith"
wrote: I think I have been both, freebander/ham, all I think I have seen is that the freebanders have more fun. That depends on your definition of "fun". Also, I think the radio spectrum is for the use of all, there needs to be a good slice of radio spectrum set aside for freebanders, indeed, set aside for "We the People!" There is. 40 channels worth. There's also FRS and MURS too. Unfortunately, the hams have just become a self-serving bunch holding much of the spectrum to their hobby... they like nice clear spaces of spectrum where they and a few buddies carry on conversations like old women around a bridge table. Are you a ham? If not, then where do you get your stereotypical information? Unless one feels himself a child who needs a parent telling them what they CAN'T do--it is time for a change of thinking here... Ah, another one who can't live under the rules of society. I think the FCC needs to support radio use amongst the citizens of this country, not a self-serving group who feel themselves more deserving and special... What do "the citizens" do to deserve such treatment? I think we all need a better form of radio spectrum use--one which conforms to the people, NOT makes the people conform to ridiculous rules... Making subjective value judgments is a flaw in your logic. Those "ridiculous" rules are there for a reason. They're not there to ruin your fun, they are there to ensure that all radio users have a fair chance and equal access. And, I think a whole lot more... but basically it all revolves around my seeing hams as self-serving/control-freaks who have a good thing going--and are getting away with it... Well, lets see, hams do have to pass a test to prove some level of technical proficiency. That is worth a lot more than simply doing - Nothing! Hams earned the right to that "good thing". And it's not an exclusive club either! You are welcome to earn the privilege and join the ranks. The problem is that you want what they have, but don't want to work to earn it. It's no different than a welfare slacker complaining that their hard working neighbor owns a nice house and a BMW, and laments that "they have a good thing and are getting away with it". Yet he somehow feels that he deserves the same considerations while doing nothing to earn it. You probably feel that the rich don't deserve what they have either. When you work for and earn a privilege (as opposed to crying and whining for it) you tend to respect what it stands for. That is why most hams are more aware of, and tend to follow more closely, the rules of the radio service. Like your first car. If you earned the money to buy your first car by years of paper routes and cutting lawns, you will be more likely to take care of it, than if Dad just gave the car to you. The problem is that you want the privileges of ham radio, but do not want to work for it. The test is not that difficult. Here is where guys like you then claim that they could easily pass the test, but they don't "want to", and then cite all sorts of "issues" about the politics of ham radio that they find repulsive. Yea, hams don't use roger beeps, noise toys, echo boxes, and they don't normally cuss every other word. It's the difference between a broadway play and WWE smackdown. Not that there's anything wrong with WWE smackdown. But you don't expect those who want to watch a broadway play to have to put up with the antics of the WWE. That's what choice is about. So now, you want the privileges of ham radio, without earning them, and without the presence of some people who may think and act a little differently than you do. So you want the FCC to kick hams off the ham bands and then turn the service over to a bunch of unlicensed, lawless individuals to turn into the RF equivalent of the wild, wild west? Does that about sum it up for you? Forgetting about the technical issues that would certainly crop up, do you think this is a good plan? Even if, hypothetically, the FCC were to create a "legal" freeband service from say, 26-28 Mhz, there would still be those who would venture outside of those limits. For those people, it's not about having fun on a radio service, but about the thrill of breaking the law, in much the same way that a 17 year old drinks. There's a certain psychological thrill that comes with "getting away" with breaking the law, or "sticking it to the man". For those who look at societal rules as a personal affront, I can only tell you that you have a long, hard, and uphill battle before you. Happiness will not be easy to find either. Dave "Sandbagger" http://home.ptd.net/~n3cvj |
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"John Smith" wrote in message ... Here ya go, now you will not have all that text you are worried about... John What text would that be? Landshark -- Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak; courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen. |
I think too much text probably confuses old steveo, we should just keep our
thext to "yes" and "no" for him... Regards, John |
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