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Beware of hams planting dis-information...
Anyone know any of these guys? Is it just possible the hams are playing you
all for fools, planting rumors to titillate you? A dog chasing its own tail is a funny sight... Regards, John |
I think you are absolutly right, John I think the "hams" are jeolous
of us CB'ers and freebanders cause we are PROFESSIONAL dx'ers while they are just amateur dx'ers. What do you think? Regards from CB OUTLAW (beep as in roger) |
I think I have been both, freebander/ham, all I think I have seen is that
the freebanders have more fun. Also, I think the radio spectrum is for the use of all, there needs to be a good slice of radio spectrum set aside for freebanders, indeed, set aside for "We the People!" Unfortunately, the hams have just become a self-serving bunch holding much of the spectrum to their hobby... they like nice clear spaces of spectrum where they and a few buddies carry on conversations like old women around a bridge table. Unless one feels himself a child who needs a parent telling them what they CAN'T do--it is time for a change of thinking here... I think the FCC needs to support radio use amongst the citizens of this country, not a self-serving group who feel themselves more deserving and special... I think we all need a better form of radio spectrum use--one which conforms to the people, NOT makes the people conform to ridiculous rules... And, I think a whole lot more... but basically it all revolves around my seeing hams as self-serving/control-freaks who have a good thing going--and are getting away with it... Regards, John "CB outlaw" wrote in message oups.com... I think you are absolutly right, John I think the "hams" are jeolous of us CB'ers and freebanders cause we are PROFESSIONAL dx'ers while they are just amateur dx'ers. What do you think? Regards from CB OUTLAW (beep as in roger) |
Here is a fellow who says it straight-up, and rather eloquently!
http://www.hamsexy.com/archives1.html Regards, John "John Smith" wrote in message ... I think I have been both, freebander/ham, all I think I have seen is that the freebanders have more fun. Also, I think the radio spectrum is for the use of all, there needs to be a good slice of radio spectrum set aside for freebanders, indeed, set aside for "We the People!" Unfortunately, the hams have just become a self-serving bunch holding much of the spectrum to their hobby... they like nice clear spaces of spectrum where they and a few buddies carry on conversations like old women around a bridge table. Unless one feels himself a child who needs a parent telling them what they CAN'T do--it is time for a change of thinking here... I think the FCC needs to support radio use amongst the citizens of this country, not a self-serving group who feel themselves more deserving and special... I think we all need a better form of radio spectrum use--one which conforms to the people, NOT makes the people conform to ridiculous rules... And, I think a whole lot more... but basically it all revolves around my seeing hams as self-serving/control-freaks who have a good thing going--and are getting away with it... Regards, John "CB outlaw" wrote in message oups.com... I think you are absolutly right, John I think the "hams" are jeolous of us CB'ers and freebanders cause we are PROFESSIONAL dx'ers while they are just amateur dx'ers. What do you think? Regards from CB OUTLAW (beep as in roger) |
On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:03:40 -0700, "John Smith"
wrote: I think I have been both, freebander/ham, all I think I have seen is that the freebanders have more fun. Also, I think the radio spectrum is for the use of all, there needs to be a good slice of radio spectrum set aside for freebanders, indeed, set aside for "We the People!" Unfortunately, the hams have just become a self-serving bunch holding much of the spectrum to their hobby... they like nice clear spaces of spectrum where they and a few buddies carry on conversations like old women around a bridge table. Unless one feels himself a child who needs a parent telling them what they CAN'T do--it is time for a change of thinking here... I think the FCC needs to support radio use amongst the citizens of this country, not a self-serving group who feel themselves more deserving and special... I think we all need a better form of radio spectrum use--one which conforms to the people, NOT makes the people conform to ridiculous rules... And, I think a whole lot more... but basically it all revolves around my seeing hams as self-serving/control-freaks who have a good thing going--and are getting away with it... Regards, John I thought freeband was from 26.000 MHz up to channel 1, 26.965 MHz, and from above channel 40, 27.405 MHz, to the edge of the 10 Meter ham band, 28.000 MHz. What does that have to do with Ham radio spectrum use? Quit doing so much thinking, you're going to hurt yourself... |
On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:47:55 -0700, "John Smith"
wrote in : You my friend, are an idiot!!! So I've been told on more than one occasion. But let's see what's in -your- post...... Most hams feel it takes a "musical ear" to be proficient with morse code-- Really? I've never heard that from -any- ham. I know Morse myself and I wouldn't say it takes a musical ear, but then I'm not a ham -or- a musician. So do you have any references to back up your statement that "most hams" feel this way? snip 50Mhz and above works best with bounce, with enough power Really? I've never heard that, either. So if I want to talk to someone across town on, say, 2m, I should forget the repeaters, crank up the amp and howl at the moon? (and there is something wrong with the ionosphere these days--holes yanno!) I suppose bounce at 27Mhz is a possibility--however, how many other cb'ers would have a ant pointed at the moon? The ozone hole(s) might make a difference on 11m if you happen to live in Nome, AK, but I doubt that the mainland US is going to see a big difference anytime soon. As long as skip continues to happen then the ionosphere is still in good shape, and you probably won't have too much luck with CB EME. But that didn't answer my question: Have you done moon bounce with CB? Expect no more answers from me--you are not on a level to be given this consideration. You are simply displaying the traits of a control freak, and attempting to use cheap shots to make others answerable to you--I have not the time--be interesting or be silent... Your cop-out came earlier than I expected, but it -was- expected. I can clearly see you have the petty traits most hams display--you may be a lost soul... get your license! By "petty traits" do you mean pointing out the absurdity of the arguments you use to defend your anti-hammie attitude? Guilty as charged. You are entitled to your opinions, if you think you will upset me with your rantings--think again... I really don't care if you get upset or not. Why did you even bring it up as a topic of discussion? I support free speech.... As do I. I even consider it a right. however, if you have no respect for logic and the obivious it will show and you will be known for such--proceed as you please... ......"logic and the obvious"? Like avoiding sat-comm because of possible alien influence? And working moon bounce on CB? Of course you realize that the moon is a natural satellite complete with alien mud puddles, don't you? Then there is your statement that only musicians can learn Morse code, your anti-government diatribe that came out of nowhere, and your suggestion that education is a bad thing because it will inevitably lead to Hitleresque facism in the US. "Logic and the obvious" indeed. John, you are a certifiable whacko. Welcome to RRCB! ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
I consider the upper freeband to be from 25Mhz to 30Mhz... at least, I have
heard freebanders all across that 5Mhz bandwidth... Regards, John "Lancer" wrote in message ... On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:03:40 -0700, "John Smith" wrote: I think I have been both, freebander/ham, all I think I have seen is that the freebanders have more fun. Also, I think the radio spectrum is for the use of all, there needs to be a good slice of radio spectrum set aside for freebanders, indeed, set aside for "We the People!" Unfortunately, the hams have just become a self-serving bunch holding much of the spectrum to their hobby... they like nice clear spaces of spectrum where they and a few buddies carry on conversations like old women around a bridge table. Unless one feels himself a child who needs a parent telling them what they CAN'T do--it is time for a change of thinking here... I think the FCC needs to support radio use amongst the citizens of this country, not a self-serving group who feel themselves more deserving and special... I think we all need a better form of radio spectrum use--one which conforms to the people, NOT makes the people conform to ridiculous rules... And, I think a whole lot more... but basically it all revolves around my seeing hams as self-serving/control-freaks who have a good thing going--and are getting away with it... Regards, John I thought freeband was from 26.000 MHz up to channel 1, 26.965 MHz, and from above channel 40, 27.405 MHz, to the edge of the 10 Meter ham band, 28.000 MHz. What does that have to do with Ham radio spectrum use? Quit doing so much thinking, you're going to hurt yourself... |
Well, 6Mhz bandwidth even...
John "John Smith" wrote in message ... I consider the upper freeband to be from 25Mhz to 30Mhz... at least, I have heard freebanders all across that 5Mhz bandwidth... Regards, John "Lancer" wrote in message ... On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:03:40 -0700, "John Smith" wrote: I think I have been both, freebander/ham, all I think I have seen is that the freebanders have more fun. Also, I think the radio spectrum is for the use of all, there needs to be a good slice of radio spectrum set aside for freebanders, indeed, set aside for "We the People!" Unfortunately, the hams have just become a self-serving bunch holding much of the spectrum to their hobby... they like nice clear spaces of spectrum where they and a few buddies carry on conversations like old women around a bridge table. Unless one feels himself a child who needs a parent telling them what they CAN'T do--it is time for a change of thinking here... I think the FCC needs to support radio use amongst the citizens of this country, not a self-serving group who feel themselves more deserving and special... I think we all need a better form of radio spectrum use--one which conforms to the people, NOT makes the people conform to ridiculous rules... And, I think a whole lot more... but basically it all revolves around my seeing hams as self-serving/control-freaks who have a good thing going--and are getting away with it... Regards, John I thought freeband was from 26.000 MHz up to channel 1, 26.965 MHz, and from above channel 40, 27.405 MHz, to the edge of the 10 Meter ham band, 28.000 MHz. What does that have to do with Ham radio spectrum use? Quit doing so much thinking, you're going to hurt yourself... |
Thanks John for your comments and that link is excellent. I used to be
a "ham" to but I found it to be VERY boring (here anyway) about just a bunch of OLD MEN talking about their poor health issues,"ohhhhh I got a really bad back" "that's nothin' i got double hernia" "i gotcha both beat, I'm actually DEAD" (i wish) Anyway you get my point? I WAS a ham but thankfully not anymore. I find CB AND the freeband to be a MUCH MORE relaxed atmosphere AND MORE FUN. And your are right , WE need less hams to be "sarcastic"? That's not the word I'm looking for as I'm trying to be nice right know, but I think you can understand what I'm getting at. Thanks and 73's. I like to say 73's rather than just 73. 73 sounds TOOO hammie! CB OUTLAW 10-4 beep |
On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:51:39 -0700, "John Smith"
wrote: I consider the upper freeband to be from 25Mhz to 30Mhz... at least, I have heard freebanders all across that 5Mhz bandwidth... Regards, John I'd be willing to bet there are a lot of hams that don't even know what "freeband" is. If freebanders stay off 10 meters, most hams wouldn't even care.. |
Lancer:
I only wish you were correct. Hams are a tight-knit group which looks down on all other radio-users, with the possible exception of gov't. Get to know some hams in your area, I think you will find a common "control freak" nature amongst them. If even another ham suggests possible changes to their ancient methods they "black ball" him/her. Most of all their activities center around a "good ole boys rationale." You have to meet and participate with them to see just how deep this runs... Get your ham license!!! But, play along with them, make it a mission to study and learn about them... I think you will be back to freeband/"Chicken Band", but you will have a greater appreciation of radio on these bands! Regards, John "Lancer" wrote in message ... On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:51:39 -0700, "John Smith" wrote: I consider the upper freeband to be from 25Mhz to 30Mhz... at least, I have heard freebanders all across that 5Mhz bandwidth... Regards, John I'd be willing to bet there are a lot of hams that don't even know what "freeband" is. If freebanders stay off 10 meters, most hams wouldn't even care.. |
On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 12:41:53 -0700, "John Smith"
wrote in : I as I said, exercise your free speech as you choose... If you come up with anything intelligent/interesting--I'll be here... Assuming you could recognize "anything intelligent/interesting", why should I care if you are here or not? ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 13:48:23 -0700, "John Smith"
wrote in : Lancer: I only wish you were correct. Hams are a tight-knit group which looks down on all other radio-users, with the possible exception of gov't. Get to know some hams in your area, I think you will find a common "control freak" nature amongst them. If even another ham suggests possible changes to their ancient methods they "black ball" him/her. Most of all their activities center around a "good ole boys rationale." You have to meet and participate with them to see just how deep this runs... Some hams are just as you described, and need to be reminded on occasion that they are, by definition, amateurs. But some hams don't have that holier-than-thou attitude and are quite content belonging to the human race. Lance fits better into the "human" category. Get your ham license!!! But, play along with them, make it a mission to study and learn about them... I think you will be back to freeband/"Chicken Band", but you will have a greater appreciation of radio on these bands! Probably true, assuming the person's interest in radio is narrow enough to fall within the limitations of the CB and/or the freeloader band. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
Lancer wrote:
I thought freeband was from 26.000 MHz up to channel 1, 26.965 MHz, and from above channel 40, 27.405 MHz, to the edge of the 10 Meter ham band, 28.000 MHz. What does that have to do with Ham radio spectrum use? Quit doing so much thinking, you're going to hurt yourself... That's right, Lancer. Although I'd suggest a little caution going down the basement steps... 27.4 to 27.9 is worry free. |
Lancer wrote:
On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:51:39 -0700, "John Smith" wrote: I consider the upper freeband to be from 25Mhz to 30Mhz... at least, I have heard freebanders all across that 5Mhz bandwidth... Regards, John I'd be willing to bet there are a lot of hams that don't even know what "freeband" is. If freebanders stay off 10 meters, most hams wouldn't even care.. Amen and hallelujah! |
Frank Gilliland wrote:
Probably true, assuming the person's interest in radio is narrow enough to fall within the limitations of the CB and/or the freeloader band. Pass the bar rag, Frank. I have some clean up to do. |
Probably true, assuming the person's interest in radio is narrow
enough to fall within the limitations of the CB and/or the freeloader band. Hey! You aren't one of those hams which needs a three-day observation, are ya? What limitations do the freebanders suffer (other than danger of being caught and prosecution?) Or, are you claiming they can't read? Stay coherent here!!! Regards, John "Frank Gilliland" wrote in message ... On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 13:48:23 -0700, "John Smith" wrote in : Lancer: I only wish you were correct. Hams are a tight-knit group which looks down on all other radio-users, with the possible exception of gov't. Get to know some hams in your area, I think you will find a common "control freak" nature amongst them. If even another ham suggests possible changes to their ancient methods they "black ball" him/her. Most of all their activities center around a "good ole boys rationale." You have to meet and participate with them to see just how deep this runs... Some hams are just as you described, and need to be reminded on occasion that they are, by definition, amateurs. But some hams don't have that holier-than-thou attitude and are quite content belonging to the human race. Lance fits better into the "human" category. Get your ham license!!! But, play along with them, make it a mission to study and learn about them... I think you will be back to freeband/"Chicken Band", but you will have a greater appreciation of radio on these bands! Probably true, assuming the person's interest in radio is narrow enough to fall within the limitations of the CB and/or the freeloader band. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
On 25 Apr 2005 23:22:15 GMT, Steveo wrote in
: Frank Gilliland wrote: Probably true, assuming the person's interest in radio is narrow enough to fall within the limitations of the CB and/or the freeloader band. Pass the bar rag, Frank. I have some clean up to do. Spontaneous vomiting? or did you just spill your milk? ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 25 Apr 2005 23:22:15 GMT, Steveo wrote in : Frank Gilliland wrote: Probably true, assuming the person's interest in radio is narrow enough to fall within the limitations of the CB and/or the freeloader band. Pass the bar rag, Frank. I have some clean up to do. Spontaneous vomiting? or did you just spill your milk? None of those. I'm pondering faking a trip with mapquest. |
On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:23:36 -0700, "John Smith"
wrote in : Probably true, assuming the person's interest in radio is narrow enough to fall within the limitations of the CB and/or the freeloader band. Hey! You aren't one of those hams which needs a three-day observation, are ya? I don't think so. I would have to get a license first, wouldn't I? What limitations do the freebanders suffer (other than danger of being caught and prosecution?) Ever work EME on the CB/FB? Sat-comm? RACES? Or, are you claiming they can't read? Stay coherent here!!! Speaking of coherent, ever work CCW on the CB/FB? ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
On 25 Apr 2005 23:29:59 GMT, Steveo wrote in
: Frank Gilliland wrote: On 25 Apr 2005 23:22:15 GMT, Steveo wrote in : Frank Gilliland wrote: Probably true, assuming the person's interest in radio is narrow enough to fall within the limitations of the CB and/or the freeloader band. Pass the bar rag, Frank. I have some clean up to do. Spontaneous vomiting? or did you just spill your milk? None of those. I'm pondering faking a trip with mapquest. Still sore about that, huh? Oh well. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
Lancer wrote:
On 25 Apr 2005 23:01:39 GMT, Steveo wrote: Lancer wrote: I thought freeband was from 26.000 MHz up to channel 1, 26.965 MHz, and from above channel 40, 27.405 MHz, to the edge of the 10 Meter ham band, 28.000 MHz. What does that have to do with Ham radio spectrum use? Quit doing so much thinking, you're going to hurt yourself... That's right, Lancer. Although I'd suggest a little caution going down the basement steps... 27.4 to 27.9 is worry free. LOL! Right now I'm staying away from basement steps... ME too. The better half has a honey-do list on the chalk board that's next to my tombstone down there! (also next to the pool table) |
Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 25 Apr 2005 23:29:59 GMT, Steveo wrote in Pass the bar rag, Frank. I have some clean up to do. Spontaneous vomiting? or did you just spill your milk? None of those. I'm pondering faking a trip with mapquest. Still sore about that, huh? Oh well. Not at all. I have trouble with fence straddlers tho. |
On 25 Apr 2005 23:36:02 GMT, Steveo wrote in
: Frank Gilliland wrote: On 25 Apr 2005 23:29:59 GMT, Steveo wrote in Pass the bar rag, Frank. I have some clean up to do. Spontaneous vomiting? or did you just spill your milk? None of those. I'm pondering faking a trip with mapquest. Still sore about that, huh? Oh well. Not at all. I have trouble with fence straddlers tho. ........huh? ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 25 Apr 2005 23:36:02 GMT, Steveo wrote in : Frank Gilliland wrote: On 25 Apr 2005 23:29:59 GMT, Steveo wrote in Pass the bar rag, Frank. I have some clean up to do. Spontaneous vomiting? or did you just spill your milk? None of those. I'm pondering faking a trip with mapquest. Still sore about that, huh? Oh well. Not at all. I have trouble with fence straddlers tho. .......huh? Never mind it all, Frank. I have no problem with you. :) I amz' what I amz'. ($1-popeye) |
Now here is the matter in question, "Whether people should design the radio
to fit them--or, if the people should be designed to fit the radio?" If you look at ham radio it is just un-progressive. If you can't see that--get new glasses! The world is passing them by and they are becomming a road block to innovation... all for the sport of their hobby... You are correct, NOT all hams are like this, I personally know of two who are not--and I am one of them... (OK, there are a few more who don't think themselves "radio Gods" and seek to have all non-hams placed in restraints...) However, I am not here to worship innovative hams anymore than the others... but, the ("others") ones with self-serving nature, and control freak attitude are at need of repair and an attitude adjustment... Anyway, I think most will agree this needs to be brought out in the light of day and examined and discussed. People need to be aware that a lot of their radio spectrum is being used just to give a chosen few some hobby privilages... in fact, write your congressman about this and complain!!! And, you don't think there are "bootlegger hams?" Ones with LARGE-multi-kilowatt linears? Ones who chat with citizens of other countries on freqs not allowed by this country? THINK AGAIN! The hams are like the gays, a few loud voices are controlling laws which affect us all! This is simply un-called for and unnecessary... Warmest regards, John "Lancer" wrote in message ews.com... On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 13:48:23 -0700, "John Smith" wrote: Lancer: I only wish you were correct. Hams are a tight-knit group which looks down on all other radio-users, with the possible exception of gov't. Get to know some hams in your area, I think you will find a common "control freak" nature amongst them. If even another ham suggests possible changes to their ancient methods they "black ball" him/her. Most of all their activities center around a "good ole boys rationale." You have to meet and participate with them to see just how deep this runs... Get your ham license!!! But, play along with them, make it a mission to study and learn about them... I think you will be back to freeband/"Chicken Band", but you will have a greater appreciation of radio on these bands! Regards, John John, I think you are making to much of a generalization about hams. There are a lot iin this group, and so far no one has jumped on you about "freebanding" Some of the attitude real or not is from what a sewer CB has become. After all , look what you guys have done with the legal frequencies you were given. Why should you get any additional spectrum to trash up... You get the idea? Both groups have their trouble makers, I just don't see the vast majority as you describe.. |
"John Smith" wrote:
If you look at ham radio it is just un-progressive. If you can't see that--get new glasses! Newbie clue: don't be ripping hams here. Move on. |
On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:44:42 -0700, "John Smith"
wrote in : Err; I have been known to bounce around a bit... You have done moon-bounce with a CB? Right. I ain't no musician and don't like 'em much (but like the rock n' roll music!) And, anyone who taps code and fancies himself a muscian needs a three-day observation! Where did that come from? I said nothing about musicians. CCW may be an abbreviation for a band, but I was referring to Coherent CW which is a slow type of Morse code used for weak-signal work. I am leery of anything circling this planet (ya never know, may be aliens whom crawled out of mud puddles!) Then you should probably avoid cell-phones and long-distance carriers, since most of them use satellites. And television is a no-no because most of their feeds come the same route. Disregard weather forcasts based on GEOS photos. In fact, just browsing the net can use a large number of satellites in a short amount of time. But on the flip side, those CIA spy satellites sure don't seem to work worth a damn..... must be because of alien interference, huh? I tend to shy away from pseudo-governmental organizations--and the boys who like to wear the little uniforms, patches, badges and hats and play games... Then you have a problem with the Shriners as well as most professional sports organizations. etc, etc,... I still like the boy scouts, apple pie, Benjamin Franklin, the miltia--and wish every town and city had one--complete with radios--etc... ......um, ok. So? If you think gov't is the answer and it is going to save you--think again... it will be the same way as when we began this country, there will be a government which IS the problem... it will be "We the people..." who provide the cure... Oh great, another anarchist. I have something people have forgotten about, faith in my neighbors and countrymen, and a knowledge of how average men rise to meet great challenges, undertakings and disasters--again, our nation is a firm lesson in this--why does everyone keep thinking we are "the great civilization?" The Romans thought that yanno? A good lesson is Germany, it was the highly educated who helped Hitler the most--the doctors, judges, lawyers, etc... carried out his plans... without them, Hitler was nobody... they thought themselves "special" and "entitled", thank God they were shown different... it is not my education which makes me a valuable neighbor--it is my standing on the shoulders of my forefathers... Yet you spit on their graves by encouraging lawlessness. If ever we face disaster, it will be more likely for some unheard of wino or schmuck or just everyday-Joe to rise to meet the occasion than a gov't entity... Seems to me that we have had plenty of disasters over the years. And if I recall, the government was able to handle each and every one of them..... more or less. But what does that have to do with the topic? but politicians will be there to take the credit, hide the real heroes, and pick plastic heroes who will support their campaigns... no, it never changes, it is a vicious circle... Nothing has changed human nature... only some men have begun to dream in fantasy colored pictures again, and once again we are in danger... You have issues. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
Newbie, nah, if I haven't been around the block with this bunch, then it was
another one which looked so much alike--might as well have been 'em... I claim what I am saying is truth--if it isn't then tell me how so, we can be debate, we can argue--in the end, all which matters is the truth--let the chips fall where they might... I came and I ain't in a hurry, I brought a lunch... Regards, John "Steveo" wrote in message ... "John Smith" wrote: If you look at ham radio it is just un-progressive. If you can't see that--get new glasses! Newbie clue: don't be ripping hams here. Move on. |
On 26 Apr 2005 01:42:09 GMT, Steveo wrote:
"John Smith" wrote: If you look at ham radio it is just un-progressive. If you can't see that--get new glasses! Newbie clue: don't be ripping hams here. Move on. Hey Moped, I have to delay buying my ham gear. I took the dog to the vet because of ongoing skin allergies. The blood test was $375. That didn't include the steroid spray and office visit. Hopefully, they can determine what the hell he is allegeric to. I didn't have a choice. I have spent a ton of money on this problem already, and figured rather than relieving symtoms, I need to find out the cause and stop it. I am going to try and hang the Imax this weekend, weather permitting. Vinnie S. |
Err; I have been known to bounce around a bit...
I ain't no musician and don't like 'em much (but like the rock n' roll music!) And, anyone who taps code and fancies himself a muscian needs a three-day observation! I am leery of anything circling this planet (ya never know, may be aliens whom crawled out of mud puddles!) I tend to shy away from pseudo-governmental organizations--and the boys who like to wear the little uniforms, patches, badges and hats and play games... etc, etc,... I still like the boy scouts, apple pie, Benjamin Franklin, the miltia--and wish every town and city had one--complete with radios--etc... If you think gov't is the answer and it is going to save you--think again... it will be the same way as when we began this country, there will be a government which IS the problem... it will be "We the people..." who provide the cure... I have something people have forgotten about, faith in my neighbors and countrymen, and a knowledge of how average men rise to meet great challenges, undertakings and disasters--again, our nation is a firm lesson in this--why does everyone keep thinking we are "the great civilization?" The Romans thought that yanno? A good lesson is Germany, it was the highly educated who helped Hitler the most--the doctors, judges, lawyers, etc... carried out his plans... without them, Hitler was nobody... they thought themselves "special" and "entitled", thank God they were shown different... it is not my education which makes me a valuable neighbor--it is my standing on the shoulders of my forefathers... If ever we face disaster, it will be more likely for some unheard of wino or schmuck or just everyday-Joe to rise to meet the occasion than a gov't entity... but politicians will be there to take the credit, hide the real heroes, and pick plastic heroes who will support their campaigns... no, it never changes, it is a vicious circle... Nothing has changed human nature... only some men have begun to dream in fantasy colored pictures again, and once again we are in danger... Regards, John "Frank Gilliland" wrote in message ... On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:23:36 -0700, "John Smith" wrote in : Probably true, assuming the person's interest in radio is narrow enough to fall within the limitations of the CB and/or the freeloader band. Hey! You aren't one of those hams which needs a three-day observation, are ya? I don't think so. I would have to get a license first, wouldn't I? What limitations do the freebanders suffer (other than danger of being caught and prosecution?) Ever work EME on the CB/FB? Sat-comm? RACES? Or, are you claiming they can't read? Stay coherent here!!! Speaking of coherent, ever work CCW on the CB/FB? ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
Vinnie S. wrote:
On 26 Apr 2005 01:42:09 GMT, Steveo wrote: "John Smith" wrote: If you look at ham radio it is just un-progressive. If you can't see that--get new glasses! Newbie clue: don't be ripping hams here. Move on. Hey Moped, I have to delay buying my ham gear. I took the dog to the vet because of ongoing skin allergies. The blood test was $375. That didn't include the steroid spray and office visit. Hopefully, they can determine what the hell he is allegeric to. I didn't have a choice. I have spent a ton of money on this problem already, and figured rather than relieving symtoms, I need to find out the cause and stop it. I am going to try and hang the Imax this weekend, weather permitting. Vinnie S. I can cure it for $.30 but you can't have the dog back. j/k I know how that is, Vin, them moochers come before radio toys. I spent something like $400 in surgery on my last hound, only to have the vet tell me there was nothing he could do but put the dog down...so go in there and say goobye...tears still come to my eyes while I'm typing this.. |
On 26 Apr 2005 02:47:08 GMT, Steveo wrote:
Hey Moped, I have to delay buying my ham gear. I took the dog to the vet because of ongoing skin allergies. The blood test was $375. That didn't include the steroid spray and office visit. Hopefully, they can determine what the hell he is allegeric to. I didn't have a choice. I have spent a ton of money on this problem already, and figured rather than relieving symtoms, I need to find out the cause and stop it. I am going to try and hang the Imax this weekend, weather permitting. Vinnie S. I can cure it for $.30 but you can't have the dog back. j/k I know how that is, Vin, them moochers come before radio toys. I spent something like $400 in surgery on my last hound, only to have the vet tell me there was nothing he could do but put the dog down...so go in there and say goobye...tears still come to my eyes while I'm typing this.. That's about right. I have no kids yet, so this dog and cat are my kids. Luckily, it's just skin allergies. This total bill came to $431. But I have spent money on this before. I just hope they nail the allergy. I read on the net, that they can be allergic to one of 1,000 things. I think this tests tests for 100 things. Vinnie S. |
Vinnie S. wrote:
On 26 Apr 2005 02:47:08 GMT, Steveo wrote: I think this tests tests for 100 things. Switch the mut to Ivory soap. |
"John Smith" wrote:
I came and I ain't in a hurry, I brought a lunch... Then please don't top post so much. |
"Steveo" wrote in message ... Frank Gilliland wrote: On 25 Apr 2005 23:36:02 GMT, Steveo wrote in : Frank Gilliland wrote: On 25 Apr 2005 23:29:59 GMT, Steveo wrote in Pass the bar rag, Frank. I have some clean up to do. Spontaneous vomiting? or did you just spill your milk? None of those. I'm pondering faking a trip with mapquest. Still sore about that, huh? Oh well. Not at all. I have trouble with fence straddlers tho. .......huh? Never mind it all, Frank. I have no problem with you. :) I amz' what I amz'. ($1-popeye) Give him a spinach shot Frank ;) Landshark -- __ o /' ) /' ( , __/' ) .' `; o _.-~~~~' ``---..__ .' ; _.--' b) LANDSHARK ``--...____. .' ( _. )). `-._ `\|\|\|\|)-.....___.- `-. __...--'-.'. `---......____...---`.___.'----... .' `.; `-` ` |
"Steveo" wrote in message ... Vinnie S. wrote: On 26 Apr 2005 01:42:09 GMT, Steveo wrote: "John Smith" wrote: If you look at ham radio it is just un-progressive. If you can't see that--get new glasses! Newbie clue: don't be ripping hams here. Move on. Hey Moped, I have to delay buying my ham gear. I took the dog to the vet because of ongoing skin allergies. The blood test was $375. That didn't include the steroid spray and office visit. Hopefully, they can determine what the hell he is allegeric to. I didn't have a choice. I have spent a ton of money on this problem already, and figured rather than relieving symtoms, I need to find out the cause and stop it. I am going to try and hang the Imax this weekend, weather permitting. Vinnie S. I can cure it for $.30 but you can't have the dog back. j/k I know how that is, Vin, them moochers come before radio toys. I spent something like $400 in surgery on my last hound, only to have the vet tell me there was nothing he could do but put the dog down...so go in there and say goobye...tears still come to my eyes while I'm typing this.. That's what I was going to say, when is a Dog worth to much to save? I have always figured on the age of the dog, severity of the problem, cost on whether or not put the dog down. Landshark -- The world is good-natured to people who are good natured. |
"Landshark" wrote:
Give him a spinach shot Frank ;) __ o /' ) /' ( , __/' ) .' `; o _.-~~~~' ``---..__ .' ; _.--' b) LANDSHARK ``--...____. .' ( _. )). `-._ `\|\|\|\|)-.....___.- `-. __...--'-.'. `---......____...---`.___.'----... .' `.; `-` ` Drown it in Olive oil! |
Oh yeah! I'll get right on that!
John "Steveo" wrote in message ... "John Smith" wrote: I came and I ain't in a hurry, I brought a lunch... Then please don't top post so much. |
"John Smith" wrote:
Oh yeah! I'll get right on that! John "Steveo" wrote in message ... "John Smith" wrote: I came and I ain't in a hurry, I brought a lunch... Then please don't top post so much. Top poster/sig file test. -- Well it ain't the first close call I ever had as I'm sure you already know. I had some help from you Lord and the devil himself, but it's been strictly touch and go. Steve Earle |
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