Lancer:

I only wish you were correct. Hams are a tight-knit group which looks down
on all other radio-users, with the possible exception of gov't.

Get to know some hams in your area, I think you will find a common "control
freak" nature amongst them. If even another ham suggests possible changes
to their ancient methods they "black ball" him/her.

Most of all their activities center around a "good ole boys rationale." You
have to meet and participate with them to see just how deep this runs...

Get your ham license!!! But, play along with them, make it a mission to
study and learn about them... I think you will be back to freeband/"Chicken
Band", but you will have a greater appreciation of radio on these bands!



Regards,
John

"Lancer" wrote in message
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On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 11:51:39 -0700, "John Smith"
wrote:

I consider the upper freeband to be from 25Mhz to 30Mhz... at least, I
have
heard freebanders all across that 5Mhz bandwidth...

Regards,
John


I'd be willing to bet there are a lot of hams that don't even know
what "freeband" is. If freebanders stay off 10 meters, most hams
wouldn't even care..

On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 13:48:23 -0700, "John Smith"
wrote in
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Lancer:

I only wish you were correct. Hams are a tight-knit group which looks down
on all other radio-users, with the possible exception of gov't.

Get to know some hams in your area, I think you will find a common "control
freak" nature amongst them. If even another ham suggests possible changes
to their ancient methods they "black ball" him/her.

Most of all their activities center around a "good ole boys rationale." You
have to meet and participate with them to see just how deep this runs...


Some hams are just as you described, and need to be reminded on
occasion that they are, by definition, amateurs. But some hams don't
have that holier-than-thou attitude and are quite content belonging to
the human race. Lance fits better into the "human" category.


Get your ham license!!! But, play along with them, make it a mission to
study and learn about them... I think you will be back to freeband/"Chicken
Band", but you will have a greater appreciation of radio on these bands!


Probably true, assuming the person's interest in radio is narrow
enough to fall within the limitations of the CB and/or the freeloader
band.






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Frank Gilliland wrote:
Probably true, assuming the person's interest in radio is narrow
enough to fall within the limitations of the CB and/or the freeloader
band.

Pass the bar rag, Frank. I have some clean up to do.

On 25 Apr 2005 23:22:15 GMT, Steveo wrote in
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Frank Gilliland wrote:
Probably true, assuming the person's interest in radio is narrow
enough to fall within the limitations of the CB and/or the freeloader
band.

Pass the bar rag, Frank. I have some clean up to do.


Spontaneous vomiting? or did you just spill your milk?





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Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 25 Apr 2005 23:22:15 GMT, Steveo wrote in
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Frank Gilliland wrote:
Probably true, assuming the person's interest in radio is narrow
enough to fall within the limitations of the CB and/or the freeloader
band.

Pass the bar rag, Frank. I have some clean up to do.

Spontaneous vomiting? or did you just spill your milk?

None of those. I'm pondering faking a trip with mapquest.

On 25 Apr 2005 23:29:59 GMT, Steveo wrote in
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Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 25 Apr 2005 23:22:15 GMT, Steveo wrote in
:

Frank Gilliland wrote:
Probably true, assuming the person's interest in radio is narrow
enough to fall within the limitations of the CB and/or the freeloader
band.

Pass the bar rag, Frank. I have some clean up to do.

Spontaneous vomiting? or did you just spill your milk?

None of those. I'm pondering faking a trip with mapquest.


Still sore about that, huh? Oh well.





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Frank Gilliland wrote:
On 25 Apr 2005 23:29:59 GMT, Steveo wrote in
Pass the bar rag, Frank. I have some clean up to do.

Spontaneous vomiting? or did you just spill your milk?

None of those. I'm pondering faking a trip with mapquest.

Still sore about that, huh? Oh well.

Not at all. I have trouble with fence straddlers tho.

Probably true, assuming the person's interest in radio is narrow
enough to fall within the limitations of the CB and/or the freeloader
band.

Hey! You aren't one of those hams which needs a three-day observation, are
ya?

What limitations do the freebanders suffer (other than danger of being
caught and prosecution?)



Or, are you claiming they can't read?



Stay coherent here!!!



Regards,
John

"Frank Gilliland" wrote in message
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On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 13:48:23 -0700, "John Smith"
wrote in
:

Lancer:

I only wish you were correct. Hams are a tight-knit group which looks
down
on all other radio-users, with the possible exception of gov't.

Get to know some hams in your area, I think you will find a common
"control
freak" nature amongst them. If even another ham suggests possible changes
to their ancient methods they "black ball" him/her.

Most of all their activities center around a "good ole boys rationale."
You
have to meet and participate with them to see just how deep this runs...


Some hams are just as you described, and need to be reminded on
occasion that they are, by definition, amateurs. But some hams don't
have that holier-than-thou attitude and are quite content belonging to
the human race. Lance fits better into the "human" category.


Get your ham license!!! But, play along with them, make it a mission to
study and learn about them... I think you will be back to
freeband/"Chicken
Band", but you will have a greater appreciation of radio on these bands!


Probably true, assuming the person's interest in radio is narrow
enough to fall within the limitations of the CB and/or the freeloader
band.






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On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:23:36 -0700, "John Smith"
wrote in
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Probably true, assuming the person's interest in radio is narrow
enough to fall within the limitations of the CB and/or the freeloader
band.

Hey! You aren't one of those hams which needs a three-day observation, are
ya?


I don't think so. I would have to get a license first, wouldn't I?


What limitations do the freebanders suffer (other than danger of being
caught and prosecution?)


Ever work EME on the CB/FB? Sat-comm? RACES?


Or, are you claiming they can't read?



Stay coherent here!!!


Speaking of coherent, ever work CCW on the CB/FB?








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Err; I have been known to bounce around a bit...

I ain't no musician and don't like 'em much (but like the rock n' roll
music!) And, anyone who taps code and fancies himself a muscian needs a
three-day observation!

I am leery of anything circling this planet (ya never know, may be aliens
whom crawled out of mud puddles!)

I tend to shy away from pseudo-governmental organizations--and the boys who
like to wear the little uniforms, patches, badges and hats and play games...



etc, etc,...



I still like the boy scouts, apple pie, Benjamin Franklin, the miltia--and
wish every town and city had one--complete with radios--etc...



If you think gov't is the answer and it is going to save you--think again...
it will be the same way as when we began this country, there will be a
government which IS the problem... it will be "We the people..." who provide
the cure...



I have something people have forgotten about, faith in my neighbors and
countrymen, and a knowledge of how average men rise to meet great
challenges, undertakings and disasters--again, our nation is a firm lesson
in this--why does everyone keep thinking we are "the great civilization?"
The Romans thought that yanno?



A good lesson is Germany, it was the highly educated who helped Hitler the
most--the doctors, judges, lawyers, etc... carried out his plans... without
them, Hitler was nobody... they thought themselves "special" and
"entitled", thank God they were shown different... it is not my education
which makes me a valuable neighbor--it is my standing on the shoulders of my
forefathers...



If ever we face disaster, it will be more likely for some unheard of wino or
schmuck or just everyday-Joe to rise to meet the occasion than a gov't
entity... but politicians will be there to take the credit, hide the real
heroes, and pick plastic heroes who will support their campaigns... no, it
never changes, it is a vicious circle...



Nothing has changed human nature... only some men have begun to dream in
fantasy colored pictures again, and once again we are in danger...



Regards,
John

"Frank Gilliland" wrote in message
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On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 16:23:36 -0700, "John Smith"
wrote in
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Probably true, assuming the person's interest in radio is narrow
enough to fall within the limitations of the CB and/or the freeloader
band.

Hey! You aren't one of those hams which needs a three-day observation,
are
ya?


I don't think so. I would have to get a license first, wouldn't I?


What limitations do the freebanders suffer (other than danger of being
caught and prosecution?)


Ever work EME on the CB/FB? Sat-comm? RACES?


Or, are you claiming they can't read?



Stay coherent here!!!


Speaking of coherent, ever work CCW on the CB/FB?








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