On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:44:42 -0700, "John Smith"
wrote in
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Err; I have been known to bounce around a bit...


You have done moon-bounce with a CB? Right.


I ain't no musician and don't like 'em much (but like the rock n' roll
music!) And, anyone who taps code and fancies himself a muscian needs a
three-day observation!


Where did that come from? I said nothing about musicians. CCW may be
an abbreviation for a band, but I was referring to Coherent CW which
is a slow type of Morse code used for weak-signal work.


I am leery of anything circling this planet (ya never know, may be aliens
whom crawled out of mud puddles!)


Then you should probably avoid cell-phones and long-distance carriers,
since most of them use satellites. And television is a no-no because
most of their feeds come the same route. Disregard weather forcasts
based on GEOS photos. In fact, just browsing the net can use a large
number of satellites in a short amount of time. But on the flip side,
those CIA spy satellites sure don't seem to work worth a damn.....
must be because of alien interference, huh?


I tend to shy away from pseudo-governmental organizations--and the boys who
like to wear the little uniforms, patches, badges and hats and play games...


Then you have a problem with the Shriners as well as most professional
sports organizations.


etc, etc,...



I still like the boy scouts, apple pie, Benjamin Franklin, the miltia--and
wish every town and city had one--complete with radios--etc...


......um, ok. So?


If you think gov't is the answer and it is going to save you--think again...
it will be the same way as when we began this country, there will be a
government which IS the problem... it will be "We the people..." who provide
the cure...


Oh great, another anarchist.


I have something people have forgotten about, faith in my neighbors and
countrymen, and a knowledge of how average men rise to meet great
challenges, undertakings and disasters--again, our nation is a firm lesson
in this--why does everyone keep thinking we are "the great civilization?"
The Romans thought that yanno?



A good lesson is Germany, it was the highly educated who helped Hitler the
most--the doctors, judges, lawyers, etc... carried out his plans... without
them, Hitler was nobody... they thought themselves "special" and
"entitled", thank God they were shown different... it is not my education
which makes me a valuable neighbor--it is my standing on the shoulders of my
forefathers...


Yet you spit on their graves by encouraging lawlessness.


If ever we face disaster, it will be more likely for some unheard of wino or
schmuck or just everyday-Joe to rise to meet the occasion than a gov't
entity...


Seems to me that we have had plenty of disasters over the years. And
if I recall, the government was able to handle each and every one of
them..... more or less. But what does that have to do with the topic?


but politicians will be there to take the credit, hide the real
heroes, and pick plastic heroes who will support their campaigns... no, it
never changes, it is a vicious circle...



Nothing has changed human nature... only some men have begun to dream in
fantasy colored pictures again, and once again we are in danger...


You have issues.







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You my friend, are an idiot!!!
Most hams feel it takes a "musical ear" to be proficient with morse code--I
think a simple mind is best, I struggle with a fast key--only use it for the
test--quickly drop it after!!!
50Mhz and above works best with bounce, with enough power (and there is
something wrong with the ionosphere these days--holes yanno!) I suppose
bounce at 27Mhz is a possibility--however, how many other cb'ers would have
a ant pointed at the moon?
Expect no more answers from me--you are not on a level to be given this
consideration. You are simply displaying the traits of a control freak, and
attempting to use cheap shots to make others answerable to you--I have not
the time--be interesting or be silent...
I can clearly see you have the petty traits most hams display--you may be a
lost soul... get your license!

You are entitled to your opinions, if you think you will upset me with your
rantings--think again... I support free speech.... however, if you have no
respect for logic and the obivious it will show and you will be known for
such--proceed as you please...

John

"Frank Gilliland" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:44:42 -0700, "John Smith"
wrote in
:

Err; I have been known to bounce around a bit...


You have done moon-bounce with a CB? Right.


I ain't no musician and don't like 'em much (but like the rock n' roll
music!) And, anyone who taps code and fancies himself a muscian needs a
three-day observation!


Where did that come from? I said nothing about musicians. CCW may be
an abbreviation for a band, but I was referring to Coherent CW which
is a slow type of Morse code used for weak-signal work.


I am leery of anything circling this planet (ya never know, may be aliens
whom crawled out of mud puddles!)


Then you should probably avoid cell-phones and long-distance carriers,
since most of them use satellites. And television is a no-no because
most of their feeds come the same route. Disregard weather forcasts
based on GEOS photos. In fact, just browsing the net can use a large
number of satellites in a short amount of time. But on the flip side,
those CIA spy satellites sure don't seem to work worth a damn.....
must be because of alien interference, huh?


I tend to shy away from pseudo-governmental organizations--and the boys
who
like to wear the little uniforms, patches, badges and hats and play
games...


Then you have a problem with the Shriners as well as most professional
sports organizations.


etc, etc,...



I still like the boy scouts, apple pie, Benjamin Franklin, the miltia--and
wish every town and city had one--complete with radios--etc...


.....um, ok. So?


If you think gov't is the answer and it is going to save you--think
again...
it will be the same way as when we began this country, there will be a
government which IS the problem... it will be "We the people..." who
provide
the cure...


Oh great, another anarchist.


I have something people have forgotten about, faith in my neighbors and
countrymen, and a knowledge of how average men rise to meet great
challenges, undertakings and disasters--again, our nation is a firm lesson
in this--why does everyone keep thinking we are "the great civilization?"
The Romans thought that yanno?



A good lesson is Germany, it was the highly educated who helped Hitler the
most--the doctors, judges, lawyers, etc... carried out his plans...
without
them, Hitler was nobody... they thought themselves "special" and
"entitled", thank God they were shown different... it is not my education
which makes me a valuable neighbor--it is my standing on the shoulders of
my
forefathers...


Yet you spit on their graves by encouraging lawlessness.


If ever we face disaster, it will be more likely for some unheard of wino
or
schmuck or just everyday-Joe to rise to meet the occasion than a gov't
entity...


Seems to me that we have had plenty of disasters over the years. And
if I recall, the government was able to handle each and every one of
them..... more or less. But what does that have to do with the topic?


but politicians will be there to take the credit, hide the real
heroes, and pick plastic heroes who will support their campaigns... no,
it
never changes, it is a vicious circle...



Nothing has changed human nature... only some men have begun to dream in
fantasy colored pictures again, and once again we are in danger...


You have issues.







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On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:47:55 -0700, "John Smith"
wrote in
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You my friend, are an idiot!!!


So I've been told on more than one occasion. But let's see what's in
-your- post......


Most hams feel it takes a "musical ear" to be proficient with morse code--


Really? I've never heard that from -any- ham. I know Morse myself and
I wouldn't say it takes a musical ear, but then I'm not a ham -or- a
musician. So do you have any references to back up your statement that
"most hams" feel this way?


snip
50Mhz and above works best with bounce, with enough power


Really? I've never heard that, either. So if I want to talk to someone
across town on, say, 2m, I should forget the repeaters, crank up the
amp and howl at the moon?


(and there is
something wrong with the ionosphere these days--holes yanno!) I suppose
bounce at 27Mhz is a possibility--however, how many other cb'ers would have
a ant pointed at the moon?


The ozone hole(s) might make a difference on 11m if you happen to live
in Nome, AK, but I doubt that the mainland US is going to see a big
difference anytime soon. As long as skip continues to happen then the
ionosphere is still in good shape, and you probably won't have too
much luck with CB EME.

But that didn't answer my question: Have you done moon bounce with CB?


Expect no more answers from me--you are not on a level to be given this
consideration. You are simply displaying the traits of a control freak, and
attempting to use cheap shots to make others answerable to you--I have not
the time--be interesting or be silent...


Your cop-out came earlier than I expected, but it -was- expected.


I can clearly see you have the petty traits most hams display--you may be a
lost soul... get your license!


By "petty traits" do you mean pointing out the absurdity of the
arguments you use to defend your anti-hammie attitude? Guilty as
charged.


You are entitled to your opinions, if you think you will upset me with your
rantings--think again...


I really don't care if you get upset or not. Why did you even bring it
up as a topic of discussion?


I support free speech....


As do I. I even consider it a right.


however, if you have no
respect for logic and the obivious it will show and you will be known for
such--proceed as you please...


......"logic and the obvious"? Like avoiding sat-comm because of
possible alien influence? And working moon bounce on CB? Of course you
realize that the moon is a natural satellite complete with alien mud
puddles, don't you? Then there is your statement that only musicians
can learn Morse code, your anti-government diatribe that came out of
nowhere, and your suggestion that education is a bad thing because it
will inevitably lead to Hitleresque facism in the US. "Logic and the
obvious" indeed.

John, you are a certifiable whacko. Welcome to RRCB!







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I as I said, exercise your free speech as you choose...
If you come up with anything intelligent/interesting--I'll be here...

Regards,
John

"Frank Gilliland" wrote in message
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On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:47:55 -0700, "John Smith"
wrote in
:

You my friend, are an idiot!!!


So I've been told on more than one occasion. But let's see what's in
-your- post......


Most hams feel it takes a "musical ear" to be proficient with morse code--


Really? I've never heard that from -any- ham. I know Morse myself and
I wouldn't say it takes a musical ear, but then I'm not a ham -or- a
musician. So do you have any references to back up your statement that
"most hams" feel this way?


snip
50Mhz and above works best with bounce, with enough power


Really? I've never heard that, either. So if I want to talk to someone
across town on, say, 2m, I should forget the repeaters, crank up the
amp and howl at the moon?


(and there is
something wrong with the ionosphere these days--holes yanno!) I suppose
bounce at 27Mhz is a possibility--however, how many other cb'ers would
have
a ant pointed at the moon?


The ozone hole(s) might make a difference on 11m if you happen to live
in Nome, AK, but I doubt that the mainland US is going to see a big
difference anytime soon. As long as skip continues to happen then the
ionosphere is still in good shape, and you probably won't have too
much luck with CB EME.

But that didn't answer my question: Have you done moon bounce with CB?


Expect no more answers from me--you are not on a level to be given this
consideration. You are simply displaying the traits of a control freak,
and
attempting to use cheap shots to make others answerable to you--I have not
the time--be interesting or be silent...


Your cop-out came earlier than I expected, but it -was- expected.


I can clearly see you have the petty traits most hams display--you may be
a
lost soul... get your license!


By "petty traits" do you mean pointing out the absurdity of the
arguments you use to defend your anti-hammie attitude? Guilty as
charged.


You are entitled to your opinions, if you think you will upset me with
your
rantings--think again...


I really don't care if you get upset or not. Why did you even bring it
up as a topic of discussion?


I support free speech....


As do I. I even consider it a right.


however, if you have no
respect for logic and the obivious it will show and you will be known for
such--proceed as you please...


....."logic and the obvious"? Like avoiding sat-comm because of
possible alien influence? And working moon bounce on CB? Of course you
realize that the moon is a natural satellite complete with alien mud
puddles, don't you? Then there is your statement that only musicians
can learn Morse code, your anti-government diatribe that came out of
nowhere, and your suggestion that education is a bad thing because it
will inevitably lead to Hitleresque facism in the US. "Logic and the
obvious" indeed.

John, you are a certifiable whacko. Welcome to RRCB!







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On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 12:41:53 -0700, "John Smith"
wrote in
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I as I said, exercise your free speech as you choose...
If you come up with anything intelligent/interesting--I'll be here...


Assuming you could recognize "anything intelligent/interesting", why
should I care if you are here or not?






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On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 10:54:39 -0700, Frank Gilliland
wrote:

On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 07:47:55 -0700, "John Smith"
wrote in
:

You my friend, are an idiot!!!


So I've been told on more than one occasion. But let's see what's in
-your- post......


Most hams feel it takes a "musical ear" to be proficient with morse code--


Really? I've never heard that from -any- ham. I know Morse myself and
I wouldn't say it takes a musical ear, but then I'm not a ham -or- a
musician. So do you have any references to back up your statement that
"most hams" feel this way?


snip
50Mhz and above works best with bounce, with enough power


Really? I've never heard that, either. So if I want to talk to someone
across town on, say, 2m, I should forget the repeaters, crank up the
amp and howl at the moon?


(and there is
something wrong with the ionosphere these days--holes yanno!) I suppose
bounce at 27Mhz is a possibility--however, how many other cb'ers would have
a ant pointed at the moon?


The ozone hole(s) might make a difference on 11m if you happen to live
in Nome, AK, but I doubt that the mainland US is going to see a big
difference anytime soon. As long as skip continues to happen then the
ionosphere is still in good shape, and you probably won't have too
much luck with CB EME.

But that didn't answer my question: Have you done moon bounce with CB?


Expect no more answers from me--you are not on a level to be given this
consideration. You are simply displaying the traits of a control freak, and
attempting to use cheap shots to make others answerable to you--I have not
the time--be interesting or be silent...


Your cop-out came earlier than I expected, but it -was- expected.


I can clearly see you have the petty traits most hams display--you may be a
lost soul... get your license!


By "petty traits" do you mean pointing out the absurdity of the
arguments you use to defend your anti-hammie attitude? Guilty as
charged.


You are entitled to your opinions, if you think you will upset me with your
rantings--think again...


I really don't care if you get upset or not. Why did you even bring it
up as a topic of discussion?


I support free speech....


As do I. I even consider it a right.


however, if you have no
respect for logic and the obivious it will show and you will be known for
such--proceed as you please...


....."logic and the obvious"? Like avoiding sat-comm because of
possible alien influence? And working moon bounce on CB? Of course you
realize that the moon is a natural satellite complete with alien mud
puddles, don't you? Then there is your statement that only musicians
can learn Morse code, your anti-government diatribe that came out of
nowhere, and your suggestion that education is a bad thing because it
will inevitably lead to Hitleresque facism in the US. "Logic and the
obvious" indeed.

John, you are a certifiable whacko. Welcome to RRCB!


Hey Frank, who's your new friend?

Dave
"Sandbagger"
http://home.ptd.net/~n3cvj

John Smith wrote:
You my friend, are an idiot!!!

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From: (Frank=A0Gilliland)
On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:44:42 -0700, "John Smith"
wrote in
:

Oh great, another anarchist.

Ha,,,,this room is getting crowded.

On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 22:07:06 -0400, (I
AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote:

From: (Frank*Gilliland)
On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:44:42 -0700, "John Smith"
wrote in
:

Oh great, another anarchist.

Ha,,,,this room is getting crowded.

And you thought that I was the only one who used that term.....

Dave
"Sandbagger"

From: (Dave=A0Hall)
On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 22:07:06 -0400, (I
AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote:
From: (Frank=A0Gilliland)
On Mon, 25 Apr 2005 19:44:42 -0700, "John Smith"
wrote in
:
(Oh great, another anarchist.)

Ha,,,,this room is getting crowded.

And you thought that I was the only one who

used that term.....

Dave

"Sandbagger"

No,,what I said was to google the term "anarchy" in this group and the
results will illustrate that only you and malicious sock puppets use the
term on a regular basis. It was at this point I invoked a term you often
use and prefer to claim,,that "statistical probablility" is accepted
proof by your standards, and when this accepted proof you invoke is
applied to the posts, you are one guilty sucka for screwing with a vast
majority of posters.