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May 6th 05, 05:34 PM

From: (Dave=A0Hall)
On Wed, 4 May 2005 11:20:49 -0400, (I
AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote:
Dave Hall (N3CVJ) wrote:
Quite contrary. Logic supports the existence of
a creator or, more generally, the concept of

intelligent design.

Science is based on logic. Nowhere does science support your position.

Well, one of two possibilities exist.

Why are you limiting yourself to two possibilities? There are a myriad
of possibilities and a certain amount of fact to support more than two
possibilities.

Either the

earth cooled, formed water, created primordial
amino acids which somehow morphed into

single celled life, which then somehow

determined the need to further specialize and

diversify, and all species evolved from there.

Somehow they knew that we'd need plants to

make oxygen, for the animals that need it.

Ummm,,,in all bio classes, we learn plant life was here before primates.

Some species would become food for others.

All of this raises many questions, the biggest

of which is what force drove these single

celled organisms to improve and specialize

themselves?

Natural selection,,,bio-evolvement.

What drives evolution? Can accidental

random mutation answer these questions

satisfactorily.

Science can. If a culture is underground for years and years, they will
take on a different appearance. Their skin would be fairer. Their eyes
would be slightly larger...and so on it goes.

The other possibility is that our existence was

carefully guided by an intelligent force.

Applying Occam's razor, which scenario is

easier to believe?

Depends if one places their core belief in faith or science.

Our whole ecosystem, the intricate

specialization of the various functions of our

bodies and other aspects of nature are far too

complex to have occurred and evolved at

random.

Now THAT is one hell of a subjective opinion.

Yes, but it based on probability.

So were the human sacrifices to the Gods, in their time. You can't
possibly believe we reached the pinnacle of all intellectualism and
physical traits. People continue to live longer, grow larger and
stronger, etc.
But keeping with that, who said it was
random? Natural evolution and selection
explains away any coincidental occurrences
that you may mistake for "random".

But what drives evolution? If random

mutations are the basis for evolution, then

what prevents "bad mutations" or several

different mutations from leading us down even
more diverse paths?

Nothing, There are plenty of "bad mutations" running around...screwed up
or damaged or incomplete chromosomes, sequences, and gray matter.
Mongoloids are but a single example..

Natural selection only answers some of those

questions.

There is simply not enough order in chaos for

this to happen.
=A0
=A0You are claiming this oxymoron (chaos in order) does not exist. I
agree.
Darwin's theory has yet to be proved because of a single missing link,
it is the most widely accepted scholarly and scientific (IE: logic,
logical) belief.

There is much scientific evidence to support

the theory of evolution. I am not trying to

discount it at all. Quite the opposite, I totally

endorse the concept of evolution. The

difference is that I believe that evolution was

"helped" along by an outside intelligence.

Christians do not believe cavemen existed as science depicts. Do you?

Dave

"Sandbagger"

n3cvj

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