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From: (Dave=A0Hall)
On Wed, 11 May 2005 11:29:58 -0400, (I AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote: From: (Dave=A0Hall) On Tue, 10 May 2005 18:43:50 -0400, (I AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote: Which won't likely happen if you are both monogamous. Being monogamous with your wife/husband/partner has nothing to do with your past. Never said that it did. =A0 You said one will not likely catch AIDS if one practices monogamy. This would only hold true if both were virgins when getting married..,not practical when applied to present reality, as the vast majority have a sexual past history. And the less promiscuous that past is, the less likely that one will catch AIDS. No one ever said differently. That statement still does nothing to support or validate your erred comment that now practicing monogamy will likely prevent one from catching AIDS, as it discounts your past. You are unable to distinguish between the differences. Besides, you imply that it's next to impossible or, at the very least, unrealistic for someone to wait until marriage to engage in sexual relations. Yes, it is extremely unrealistic to expect the majority will suddenly adhere to abstinence. There is nothing honorable or otherwise noteworthy about becoming sexually active in your teenaged years, No one said differently.Where do you get these things? despite the image that the major media outlets try to paint to those overly impressionable teenagers. Oh yea,,,,your tv watching,,...._ _ =A0There are instances where the HIV virus is semi-dormant for years and years (10 to 15 year spans are on record) and then it suddenly appears,,,the same can be said of AIDS..it's manageable in many cases until,...poof,,it morphs to full blown AIDS. Which means nothing if you've never been exposed to it. Please try and remain at least semi-relative to your comments. Monogamous doesn't mean act like a slut throughout your "formative" years and then decide to "stay with one person at age 30. That you consider a past sexual history equals "acting like a slut" reveals several interesting facts of your beliefs regarding this topic. Yes, it reveals that I don't believe that sex should be engaged as a casual activity. Again,, you are in left field positing yourself against comments only you make. There was no intention to make comprehending difficult for youslef, but you are doggedly determined. Sex is a part of an act of love, to be shared with someone who you have a much deeper emotional bond with. Not something for two people, who are barely friends, who are simply looking to kill a few hours. Man,,you have been losing more ground each day with your posts, Dave. I'm glad it's almost summer up there. Cabin fever and that winter depression sure took its toll this year on you. _ The ONLY "cure" is found in the prevention..in other words, abstaining from pre-marital sex then both parties getting a thorough CBC (complete blood count) prior to tying the knot. Now you are finally seeing the light. I've known this since 1980 when the disease was traced to a cave in Africa and suspected of being contracted from bat guano (the initial host.....believed by scholars) or a rhesus monkey. Google "The Hot Zone" and the parallels are there for the reading. Better yet, read the book. Now if only you could understand that monogamy today does not discount one's past, as the majority of people have a sexual past history prior to marriage and monogamy. That's part of the problem. =A0 =A0Your claim that monogamy decreases the chance of acquiring AIDS assumes incorrectly these people had no sexual past history. It's not an "all or nothing" proposition. You're losing yourself again. Onec again, your rattle has nothing to with my comment. Try again......-your- claim that monogamy decreases the chance of acquiring AIDS assumes incorrectly these people had no sexual past history. While total abstinence before marriage is a concept that's lost on this latest hedonistic generation, the simple truth is that the less partners you have had, the less your chances of catching AIDS. Again and over and over,, you are presenting an argument to which only yourself appears to be unconvinced. The type of partners you have had also affects your chances. Frequent patronage of prostitutes, for instance, greatly increases your chances of getting the disease. It would depend upon the act. For example, the chance of the transmission of AIDS while a man receives oral sex from a woman is lower than your chances of getting killed in an automobile accident. _ The "clean" mark was originally 5 years, then 10, then 15,,,it's now believed that 20 years is the "safe" mark regarding past sexual activity..in other words, if you have been monogamous for 20 years with your partner, and your partner has also been monogamous for that amount of time, the likelihood of contracting the virus decreases substantially, but is -still- not discounted totally. Better that than hooking up with someone who's rear end has seen more bedsheets than underwear. My wife and I recently celebrated our 20 year wedding anniversary. So I guess we're safe ;-) Only if you were both virgins when you married. _ Congratulations! I'd like to say the same regarding your beliefs of contracting this disease, but I think your moral beliefs are heavily biasing and preventing you from obtaining the facts regarding such. The facts are quite simple. The less sex you engage in, the lesser your chances of getting AIDS. Now try injecting reality into your equation. If it was as simple as you present, the AIDS epidemic would not exist. Those who contract the disease have only themselves, by virtue of their activities, to blame in most cases. The same can be said of your wife if she or your daughter contract lung cancer, asthma or pulmonary emboli related problems down the line because of her smoking while she was pregnant. If you are going to hold people to the flame for all their abhorrant behavior, you must begin in your own backyard, lest you have no right to confront others and your soap box is nothing more than a mirage. I am quite certain that my risk of contracting AIDS is less than my chances of getting hit by a meteor. Since no one can recall the last time one had been struck with a meteor, that's a hell of a scholarly and meritous claim. I am far more concerned with cancer and heart disease as these pose a much greater risk to the members of my family. Diseases that, in large part, can be blamed on your family members by virtue of their poor choices and actions..smoking. Dave "Sandbagger" n3cvj |
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From: (Dave=A0Hall)
On Fri, 13 May 2005 10:51:40 -0400, (I AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote: You said one will not likely catch AIDS if one practices monogamy. This would only hold true if both were virgins when getting married..,not practical when applied to present reality, as the vast majority have a sexual past history. And the less promiscuous that past is, the less likely that one will catch AIDS. No one ever said differently. That statement still does nothing to support or validate your erred comment that now practicing monogamy will likely prevent one from catching AIDS, as it discounts your past. You are unable to distinguish between the differences. So, you are of the theory that if you have a "sexual past" that it's not worth being more careful now? You reach your own incorrect conclusions concerning the majority of people of who you have disagreed. This is part of your flawed logic and communication deficit. I won't go in to detail (unless asked) as it has been shown throughout your posting history that you have one bitch of a time comprehending other's communications, indicating a severe deficit in one of your nodes. Your postings are littered with "So did you mean..."..."so what you really are saying...".."Just what did you mean?".... Sort of like the defeatist analogy, Exactly. You proved beyond a shadow of a doubt you are your own worst enemy. "Hell, I smoked for the last 10 years, so what's the point of stopping now?" Ask Kimberly. You fail to consider statistical probability. No,I counted it,,but you immediately discount it when applied to your self and posts. I said that the malicous sock puppets and your posts are the majority to accuse cbers of anarchy and use the term frequently. You asked "what of it"? I invoked your oft cried "statistical probability"...yet it ceased the postings. You also said there is no "george"..I invoked that leaves only you, as ONLY you and he have EVER posted about Amish country when I mentioned I visited there...statistical probability. It can not be selettively applied in corelation with your beliefs, David, as the word "statistical" connotates the opposite anddoes not take into account belief. The more partners you have, the more likely you will find one who has AIDS. Or green eyes. If you practice monogamy, There you go again,,invoking something that is not a reality. The fact is the majority of people have NOT practiced monogamy. even now, will greatly lower your overall chances of catching the disease. Besides, you imply that it's next to impossible or, at the very least, unrealistic for someone to wait until marriage to engage in sexual relations. Yes, it is extremely unrealistic to expect the majority will suddenly adhere to abstinence. Why? Sheeehs! Is the human race not capable of mastering its little urges? Apparently not, Dave, since you hold yourself above the rest. Let's put it another way, Abstinence is a great incentive to those who want to live, rather than risk contracting a deadly disease. Call it a matter of priority. No. Call it education. Education, as I have been telling you since your breakdown's appearance in this group, is the key to everything that plagues you. _ =A0There are instances where the HIV virus is semi-dormant for years and years (10 to 15 year spans are on record) and then it suddenly appears,,,the same can be said of AIDS..it's manageable in many cases until,...poof,,it morphs to full blown AIDS. Which means nothing if you've never been exposed to it. Please try and remain at least semi-relative to your comments. I'm sorry your comprehensive skills are so poor. And that is getting funnier and funnier with each mistaken word you misuse in your posts. Sex is a part of an act of love, to be shared with someone who you have a much deeper emotional bond with. Not something for two people, who are barely friends, who are simply looking to kill a few hours. Man,,you have been losing more ground each day with your posts, Dave. How? I'm sorry if your morally bankrupt viewpoint clashes with my solid moral foundation. What's the matter, Dave? Things going on outside the group we should know about g? . But there's always hope for you. It's not too late to change. =A0Your claim that monogamy decreases the chance of acquiring AIDS assumes incorrectly these people had no sexual past history. It's not an "all or nothing" proposition. But that's exactly what it is. Stay celibate, or screw at your own risk. _ You're losing yourself again. No, I'm evidently losing you, as you once again failed to comprehend my point. Only because your sentence structure and points are valid only to yourself, illustrated in part, by your never-comprehending anyone who tries teaching you those things you don't already know. For some unknown reason, you become defensive when instructed or informed of a subject of whcih you are not familiar. Your feelings and ego become so hurt, you defensively defend the reasons -why- you present an incorrect position...(roger beeps) and incorrectly fool (into a false soothing state) your narcisstic self with statements that those who instructed you, were making lucky guesses. You're a mess, David, and on a downward spiral. I never saw one who actually suffers pain when they are wrong, until I came across yourself. I'll explain it again at a level you should be able to understand. Are you going to "quantify" it, for another's benefit, also, Dave? Monogamy may not 100% eliminate the risk of AIDS for those with a sordid sexual past, but it will REDUCE the chances of catching AIDS, as the risk exposure is minimized to a great degree. Once again, your rattle has nothing to with my comment. Try again......-your- claim that monogamy decreases the chance of acquiring AIDS assumes incorrectly these people had no sexual past history. You seem hell bent on confusing the term "decreases" with "eliminates". You seem hell bent on believing monogamy somehow reduces the chance of your past history affecting you. While total abstinence before marriage is a concept that's lost on this latest hedonistic generation, the simple truth is that the less partners you have had, the less your chances of catching AIDS. Again and over and over,, you are presenting an argument to which only yourself appears to be unconvinced. I admit it's tough trying to get through to someone with your apparent learning comprehension disability. _ It would depend upon the act. For example, the chance of the transmission of AIDS while a man receives oral sex from a woman is lower than your chances of getting killed in an automobile accident. Which means what in the grand scheme of .things? Which means the chance of catching AIDS from receiving head from a prostitute is no more greater than you catching it from having intercourse in your past. The facts are quite simple. The less sex you engage in, the lesser your chances of getting AIDS. That's bull****..unless, of course, in your self-titled, self-invoked, unsolicited puritan and high moral world, sex is defined only by the act of intercourse. Now try injecting reality into your equation. If it was as simple as you present, the AIDS epidemic would not exist. It's not my fault that a great percentage of the population does not take the AIDS issue seriously enough to override their hedonistic desires, and they continue to engage in risky sexual practices. Exactly, It's your fault for not having the cognitive ability to distinguish between reality and your conjured daydream of utopia and how it "ought to be". .such practice has dogged you for some time.. I have no pity for them if they learn the lesson the hard way. Same can be said for those who smoke in your family. Those who contract the disease have only themselves, by virtue of their activities, to blame in most cases. The same can be said of your wife if she or your daughter contract lung cancer, asthma or pulmonary emboli related problems down the line because of her smoking while she was pregnant. Ah, another hypocritical statement from someone who once claimed to be unconcerned with the personal lives of others. No hypocritical staetement at all. In fact, if your disability permitted you to remember all you initiate, you would find you were told on more than one occasion to take your personal issues to email or to remain on subject. This was your inititated game of getting personal. You were warned you would receive back what you hurl, only ten fold....something at which I am quite adept. To make it even more laughable, I can add this to the growing list of things you have worked to find out about me, which are 100% wrong. Which is why you have the need to explain it away,,,because only one thing matters to you,,what others think. My wife smoked up until she became pregnant. Then something (God?) changed her chemistry such that the taste of a cigarette became physically sickening. She quit immediately and never went back, and she's almost 6 years now smoke free. Gee Dave,,,that's not the way she told it,,,,but hey....you go on explaining away my mistakes, So you can add this to the growing list of gaffes that you have made about my personal life (Which you claimed to not care about) including: Abuse at the hands of my grandfather. Entered after your self-qualifications to make a diagnosis reserved only for physicians, however, your own mental diminished capacitive state record lifted the veil on your preoccupation with those you admire. My wife's name being Kimberly T. Hall. It is. My wife being a teacher. She was. My wife and I being separated/divorced. That was incorrect. The rest are true. You were separated. My not being allowed to see my daughter, except under supervision. (shrug) Something led to the counseling. My home address being wrong on my FCC license. It is wrong. It doesn't match your license plate. Do I have your express and implied and explicit permission to publicly post such information here and let the masses have their input? I'm sure there's more, but I can't remember all of them. You make far too many "oopses" to count. See above. If you are going to hold people to the flame for all their abhorrant behavior, you must begin in your own backyard, lest you have no right to confront others and your soap box is nothing more than a mirage. So you espouse that no one has any right to criticize events, or behavior based on the likelihood that they also have "baggage" of their own? Not when it comes down to the initiating party becoming so frustrated, they resort to threats. Gee, it's a good thing that the major media, and politicians don't have to abide by this, or .we'd hear nothing but quiet every day. The media deals with threats on a regular basis, which is why yours was laughed at. I am quite certain that my risk of contracting AIDS is less than my chances of getting hit by a meteor. Since no one can recall the last time one had been struck with a meteor, that's a hell of a scholarly and meritous claim. Exactly. I am far more concerned with cancer and heart disease as these pose a much greater risk to the members of my family. Diseases that, in large part, can be blamed on your family members by virtue of their poor choices and actions..smoking. Despite research that links certain lifestyle choices to increases in cancer or heart disease risk, there are also certain genetic predispositions. That can be changed with proper diet AND exercise from early on. This has been proved. There are no genetic predispositions to catching AIDS. Welllllllllll, since YOU brought it up,,,you made the claim gays are more prone to catching AIDS,,,and since scientists and researchers have found homosexuality to be a genetic trait, your claims continue to be flubs. AIDS risk can be reduced to minuscule levels if people would take the proactive step in modifying their lifestyles. Dave "Sandbagger" N3CVJ But it was also -your- claim that one can not teach certain cultures anything..this was one of your arguments for bombing Afghanistan,,,,or was it Iraq? : ) |
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Dave Hall Jr. (N3CVJ) wrote:
When you get your head handed to you with regard to one topic Pot,,kettle,,black. I'm not sure what has you hopping around like the easter bunny who has to take a very bad ****, but I can guess. Was it the application of your invoked "statistical probability" factor to yourself after you made the comment "there is no George"? Was it your goof concerning your misuse and misapplication of the word "Quantify"? Was it your self-contradiction where you first claimed an "endorsement" of religion by the people, then turned around in the same post and claimed there was no endorsement of such? Perhaps it was because you were accusing me of being wrong in all my claims concerning you, but refused to give explicit permission to post such "wrong" information. Then again, it could have been your claim that sex, in regards to catching an STD, is not an all or nothing proposition, when that is most certainly what it is,,,,,stay celibate or screw at your own risk. Or the Bush failures you asked for, was provided, then you vanished. Maybe it was that old habit you have of denying the existence of everything you are not aware, such as your claim that there is no reference point in which to measure global warming. then again, it could have been the fact that your own party acknowledges such, and just like your chosen hobby, you have no clue concerning those who govern your world. Then again, it was probably the fact you were conned into admitting you were a criminal (your word) by breaking Pa traffic law. Yep. You sure handed me my head. I can't wait for you to do it again. In the meantime, enoy your rest, take a few deep breaths, regroup, refresh, douche, powder, whatever you have to do to cleanse your wickedness and become a proper contributing member to society instead of a law breaking criminal who is on the level of crackheads and vagrants (also your words). |
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