On Thu, 19 May 2005 06:50:17 -0400, Dave Hall
wrote in :

On Wed, 18 May 2005 09:54:03 -0400, (I
AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote:

Dave Hall, N3CVJ wrote:
Now, let's take a closer look at this, and

expose just why these answers that you gave

are highly unlikely. You once claimed that you

were in the military in the mid 80's, then

worked for a while. Then you went back to

school (presumably because you had trouble

finding a decent job). Now a BS program

requires a 4 year course study at a minimum.



Frank was in the military (can earn you college credits) and it doesn't
take 4 years minimum to get a BS degree. It is often done in 3 or less.

For engineering? We're not talking about liberal arts here.

In fact, there are many who do it in less time. Many major universities
and schools have BS programs that take less than 4 years.

Name them.


EWU, UW, WSU, OSU, USC..... pretty much most of them.


And also list what the student has to do in order to cram 4
years worth of work and study into "less than" 4 years.


Work hard.


A B.S. degree requires a certain amount of credits and certain
required courses. So either you have to take more classes in less
time, or you are somehow "getting around" certain required classes.


Or simply don't waste your time partying, buckle down and study.


That starts to bring up Frank's earlier analogy of the "new" 2 year
Bachelor's degree,


That was -your- analogy, Dave. And it's irrelevant to this discussion
since the concept of a "2 year degree" was to offer a BS after
completing only half the current academic requirements. This topic
deals with completing the current academic requirements in different
amounts of time.


and how the "old" 4 year degree would be worth more
by virtue of more time spend in the classroom.


Not "time", Dave -- the amount that is learned. If you really need an
analogy, just look at the requirements for an Extra-class ham license.
The code test is down to 5 wpm, which more than a few hams feel has
"diminished the value" of their license. You used the "2 year degree"
analogy as an argument against gay marriage when you -should- be using
it as an argument against dropping the code requirement. But I don't
hear you screaming about that at all.

Regardless, if a person can complete a 4 year BS program in 2 years,
more power to him. But that's not the same as cutting the cirriculum
in half in order to reduce a 4 year program to only 2 years. That's
the same as dumbing down the course..... in fact, it's not just the
-same- as dumbing down the course, it -IS- dumbing down the course.





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