Dave Hall wrote:
BTW, how was Dayton?

Nerd festival. :P

On 07 Jun 2005 11:02:58 GMT, Steveo wrote:

Dave Hall wrote:
BTW, how was Dayton?

Nerd festival. :P

That's a shame. It used to be interesting, from an electronic flotsam
perspective. Some hams have a er... ah... problem with personal
hygiene though......

Dave
"Sandbagger"

Dave Hall wrote:
On 07 Jun 2005 11:02:58 GMT, Steveo wrote:

Dave Hall wrote:
BTW, how was Dayton?

Nerd festival. :P

That's a shame. It used to be interesting, from an electronic flotsam
perspective. Some hams have a er... ah... problem with personal
hygiene though......

True. It was ok but the used gear there wasn't any cheaper, or better than
what is on ebay really.

I'll try Findlay next. Ever been there?

On 07 Jun 2005 21:27:02 GMT, Steveo wrote:

Dave Hall wrote:
On 07 Jun 2005 11:02:58 GMT, Steveo wrote:

Dave Hall wrote:
BTW, how was Dayton?

Nerd festival. :P

That's a shame. It used to be interesting, from an electronic flotsam
perspective. Some hams have a er... ah... problem with personal
hygiene though......

True. It was ok but the used gear there wasn't any cheaper, or better than
what is on ebay really.

E-Bay will be the death of Hamfests. A shame, but an interesting part
of ham culture is about to become extinct.


I'll try Findlay next. Ever been there?

No, I can't say that I have. I usually don't travel that far from home
to attend hamfests. Dayton was the lone exception. And were it not for
the fact that my company paid to send me there (And hotel for the
weekend), I probably wouldn't have gone. It took me 9 hours to drive
there.

Dave
"Sandbagger"

From: (Dave=A0Hall)
E-Bay will be the death of Hamfests.

FEEbay may play a part, but they are losing business more and more each
day to the now free of fees Yahoo Auctions,,,,a much better auction and
they don't give a damn about amps. In fact, amps are one again becoming
very popular on cb. It feels like 2000 all over again.

A shame, but an interesting part of ham

culture is about to become extinct.

From what is written among these pages, Dayton hasn't been interesting,
productive, or juicy, er...I mean satisfying for years.
There is no shame when cheap sobs who want more money for electronic
garbage and cell phones than the junk is worth are forced to compete
with more widespread and saner prices.

(I AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote:
From: (Dave=A0Hall)
E-Bay will be the death of Hamfests.

FEEbay may play a part, but they are losing business more and more each
day to the now free of fees Yahoo Auctions

-snip-

Really? I seem to find ten times more stuff on ebay.

From: (Steveo)
wrote:
E-Bay will be the death of Hamfests.

FEEbay may play a part, but they are losing business more and more each
day to the now free of fees Yahoo Auctions
=A0=A0
Really? I seem to find ten times more stuff on

ebay.


Oh yea, no doubt about it, Ebay is still king of the hill, but that may
change with yahoo dropping all their fees. I've noticed dual auctions
running on each at the same time for the same product. I'm sure you also
probably noticed a surge in Ebay auctions that do not complete. A very
convenient way out for sellers on Ebay lately has simply been a decision
to end their auction early, Ebay requiring no explanation or reason from
the seller.

On Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:54:47 -0400, (I
AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote:

From: (Dave*Hall)
E-Bay will be the death of Hamfests.

FEEbay may play a part, but they are losing business more and more each
day to the now free of fees Yahoo Auctions,,,,a much better auction and
they don't give a damn about amps. In fact, amps are one again becoming
very popular on cb. It feels like 2000 all over again.

I'm sure both will play a part in the evolution of ham radio to its
inevitable conclusion.


A shame, but an interesting part of ham
culture is about to become extinct.

From what is written among these pages, Dayton hasn't been interesting,
productive, or juicy, er...I mean satisfying for years.

That's pretty much the impression I take away from what I've read as
well.

There is no shame when cheap sobs who want more money for electronic
garbage and cell phones than the junk is worth are forced to compete
with more widespread and saner prices.

It never fails to amaze me the audacity that some hams have when
trying to sell something. Some people clearly have no concept of the
term "depreciation". I saw a guy once trying to sell a 25 year old
crystal controlled 2 meter rig for $20 less than what it sold for new.
It was not a collectors item either. But he felt that since he was the
original owner, it was in good condition, and he still had the
original box for it, that he could get that price. I was not surprised
to see, at the end of the day, that the radio was still on his table.


Dave
"Sandbagger"

From: (Dave=A0Hall)
On Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:54:47 -0400, (I
AmnotGeorgeBush) wrote:
From: (Dave=A0Hall)
E-Bay will be the death of Hamfests.

FEEbay may play a part, but they are losing business more and more each
day to the now free of fees Yahoo Auctions,,,,a much better auction and
they don't give a damn about amps. In fact, amps are once again becoming
very popular on cb. It feels like 2000 all over again.


I'm sure both will play a part in the evolution of
ham radio to its inevitable conclusion.
=A0=A0
A shame, but an interesting part of ham

culture is about to become extinct.

From what is written among these pages, Dayton hasn't been interesting
for years.

That's pretty much the impression I take away

from what I've read as well.

There is no shame when cheap sobs who want more money for electronic
garbage and cell phones than the junk is worth are forced to compete
with more widespread and saner prices.

It never fails to amaze me the audacity that

some hams have when trying to sell

something. Some people clearly have no

concept of the term "depreciation". I saw a guy
once trying to sell a 25 year old crystal

controlled 2 meter rig for $20 less than what it

sold for new. It was not a collectors item

either. But he felt that since he was the

original owner, it was in good condition, and

he still had the original box for it, that he could

get that price. I was not surprised to see, at

the end of the day, that the radio was still on

his table.

Dave

"Sandbagger"


Ah yea, the emotional value.
Heck, its been years since AES closed their showroom here in the bay
area. Since they closed their shop here, the number of local active
hammies has steadily declined.

Dave Hall wrote:
On 07 Jun 2005 21:27:02 GMT, Steveo wrote:

Dave Hall wrote:
On 07 Jun 2005 11:02:58 GMT, Steveo wrote:

Dave Hall wrote:
BTW, how was Dayton?

Nerd festival. :P

That's a shame. It used to be interesting, from an electronic flotsam
perspective. Some hams have a er... ah... problem with personal
hygiene though......

True. It was ok but the used gear there wasn't any cheaper, or better
than what is on ebay really.

E-Bay will be the death of Hamfests. A shame, but an interesting part
of ham culture is about to become extinct.

I believe your right. I kinda hate to see the boat anchors fade away but
it's inevitable. The new wave of technology is going to leave a big part of
the HF radio hobby in the dust.

I'll try Findlay next. Ever been there?

No, I can't say that I have. I usually don't travel that far from home
to attend hamfests. Dayton was the lone exception. And were it not for
the fact that my company paid to send me there (And hotel for the
weekend), I probably wouldn't have gone. It took me 9 hours to drive
there.

Yea, that's a cruise. It takes that or a little more to haul my travel
trailer to Bristol for the Nascar race in the spring. I -sure- wouldn't do
it for what I saw at Dayton, more than once.