On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 16:18:35 -0400, wrote in
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This is a line flattener.


....oh brother, more voodoo CB terminology.



http://www.rockwellcollins.com/ecat/gs/LF-2040.html


http://www.listserve.com/archives/co.../msg00270.html


http://www.listserve.com/archives/co.../msg00270.html


http://www.co.missoula.mt.us/acs/radios/HF-8040.htm


http://www.valcom.ca/Guelph/products...-30_photo.html


Yup. Sure looks like the term "Line Flattener" is "more voodoo CB
terminology"


Why don't you google "bird watts"? You'll get more hits than "line
flattener".

Probably because I'm not very concerned with
semantics.......


That much is obvious.


.......You need to check your facts before you start
posturing and posting. You end up looking like a fool when you're
corrected.


Where was I corrected? You posted links to devices that -are- line
flatteners; i.e, they convert signal impedance to the characteristic
impedance of the transmission line. But the topic of -this- discussion
is a cheap little box that does nothing more than tune a conjugate
match. The difference is that a line flattener eliminates standing
waves on the line. This matchbox does nothing of the sort. It just
tunes out any reactance in the signal so the radio doesn't notice the
standing waves. Any line-load mismatch still exists, as does the
reflected power on the line. By definition, it does -not- 'flatten'
the line. It is not a line flattener. In your own words, "you need to
check your facts before you start posturing and posting. You end up
looking like a fool when you're corrected."








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Frank:

I will put it in simple words for you:

"We don't give a damn what they call a "match box"/"line flattener."!

Just think of it as a device to keep you from cooking the finals!
They work well for that purpose!

John

"Frank Gilliland" wrote in message
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On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 16:18:35 -0400, wrote in
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This is a line flattener.


....oh brother, more voodoo CB terminology.



http://www.rockwellcollins.com/ecat/gs/LF-2040.html


http://www.listserve.com/archives/co.../msg00270.html


http://www.listserve.com/archives/co.../msg00270.html


http://www.co.missoula.mt.us/acs/radios/HF-8040.htm


http://www.valcom.ca/Guelph/products...-30_photo.html


Yup. Sure looks like the term "Line Flattener" is "more voodoo CB
terminology"


Why don't you google "bird watts"? You'll get more hits than "line
flattener".

Probably because I'm not very concerned with
semantics.......


That much is obvious.


.......You need to check your facts before you start
posturing and posting. You end up looking like a fool when you're
corrected.


Where was I corrected? You posted links to devices that -are- line
flatteners; i.e, they convert signal impedance to the characteristic
impedance of the transmission line. But the topic of -this- discussion
is a cheap little box that does nothing more than tune a conjugate
match. The difference is that a line flattener eliminates standing
waves on the line. This matchbox does nothing of the sort. It just
tunes out any reactance in the signal so the radio doesn't notice the
standing waves. Any line-load mismatch still exists, as does the
reflected power on the line. By definition, it does -not- 'flatten'
the line. It is not a line flattener. In your own words, "you need to
check your facts before you start posturing and posting. You end up
looking like a fool when you're corrected."








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Now you got Frank all upset...LOL

Professor
www.telstar-electronics.com

Professor:

Frank is an idiot, and rather like a piece of used gum you step on, on a hot
day--can't get it off yer shoe!

ROFLOL!!!!!!

John

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Now you got Frank all upset...LOL

Professor
www.telstar-electronics.com

On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 15:04:17 -0700, "John Smith"
wrote in
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Professor:

Frank is an idiot, and rather like a piece of used gum you step on, on a hot
day--can't get it off yer shoe!


Wow, that seminar on third-grade witticism is really paying off for
you, John. Just three more weeks and you'll get your certificate!


ROFLOL!!!!!!


I agree!






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Frank... I wish I was like you... never wrong... and never had to be
corrected.

Professor
www.telstar-electronics.com

On 31 Jul 2005 15:58:33 -0700, "Professor"
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Frank... I wish I was like you... never wrong... and never had to be
corrected.


Yes, I already knew that, Brian. I tried to turn you onto the right
path years ago when you were hacking basic Motorola AN circuits that
were intended to be starting designs for engineers, not finished
products to be built by CB ampheads. But you were just too impatient
to get your "product" sold and get your share of that illegal market.
After damage control backfired in your face (because of your lack of
education) you vanished. Now you pop back up to spam the group every
time you think you have an improvement. You haven't made very many
changes, but look at the ones you -did- make -- all were suggestions
that I made when I told you all the reasons your amp sucked. Maybe you
learned those things from me or maybe somewhere else, but I was right
and you know it.

But feel free if you want to make more smart-assed remarks about my
education and experience -- it's not like I expect you to be grateful
or something. After all, you're just in this for the money.







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On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 14:34:36 -0700, "John Smith"
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Frank:

I will put it in simple words for you:

"We don't give a damn what they call a "match box"/"line flattener."!


And that's why there is so much CB mythology -- terminology born of
ignorance -- floating around and confusing people that are new to the
hobby. It's great for voodoo techs who make gobs of money by selling
worthless gimmicks and trashing good radios with "swang" mods, but
what do you care? You don't give a damn.


Just think of it as a device to keep you from cooking the finals!
They work well for that purpose!


Hundreds of thousands (probably millions) of CB radios in circulation
that work just fine without a matchbox and have never "cooked" their
finals. I'm absolutely positive that many of them have been hooked up
to antennas that weren't exactly perfect, have been run with high SWR,
and generally well abused. Yet despite your assertion that this guy is
going to blow his final without a matchbox, all of those radios still
work.

This concept is so simple it can be understood by an autistic turnip.
So what's -your- excuse?


John


That's where your opinions belong.







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Frank:

OK, you didn't get it the last time I tried, let me be a bit more blunt:

If, at this time, any are left here which do not realize you are an idiot--they
are a BIGGER IDIOT THAN YOU!

John

"Frank Gilliland" wrote in message
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On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 14:34:36 -0700, "John Smith"
wrote in
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Frank:

I will put it in simple words for you:

"We don't give a damn what they call a "match box"/"line flattener."!


And that's why there is so much CB mythology -- terminology born of
ignorance -- floating around and confusing people that are new to the
hobby. It's great for voodoo techs who make gobs of money by selling
worthless gimmicks and trashing good radios with "swang" mods, but
what do you care? You don't give a damn.


Just think of it as a device to keep you from cooking the finals!
They work well for that purpose!


Hundreds of thousands (probably millions) of CB radios in circulation
that work just fine without a matchbox and have never "cooked" their
finals. I'm absolutely positive that many of them have been hooked up
to antennas that weren't exactly perfect, have been run with high SWR,
and generally well abused. Yet despite your assertion that this guy is
going to blow his final without a matchbox, all of those radios still
work.

This concept is so simple it can be understood by an autistic turnip.
So what's -your- excuse?


John


That's where your opinions belong.







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On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 15:08:26 -0700, "John Smith"
wrote in
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Frank:

OK, you didn't get it the last time I tried, let me be a bit more blunt:

If, at this time, any are left here which do not realize you are an idiot--they
are a BIGGER IDIOT THAN YOU!


As quoted almost directly from "How To Win a Schoolyard Argument" by
Pee Wee Herman.

Go crawl back under your rock.







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