Can someone advise me if I have the correct freqcys on 2 meters for
VHF Packet. I was told 145.01 145.03 145.05 (are commonly used for
VHF Packet). While I have done all my Packet on MARS freqcys for
last 50 years or so, I recently resigned and have hardly ever
gotten on the Ham bands. I use A C128 computer and the German
packet software called "DIGICOM V5".
Is it legal to turn on your Beacon say with a setting of every 30
mins?
Joe/KH6JF


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* WW2 Vet since Sep 1940 to just After VJ day. US Signal Corps AACS *
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"Joseph Fenn" wrote in message
va.net...
Can someone advise me if I have the correct freqcys on 2 meters for
VHF Packet. I was told 145.01 145.03 145.05 (are commonly used for
VHF Packet). While I have done all my Packet on MARS freqcys for
last 50 years or so, I recently resigned and have hardly ever
gotten on the Ham bands. I use A C128 computer and the German
packet software called "DIGICOM V5".
Is it legal to turn on your Beacon say with a setting of every 30
mins?
Joe/KH6JF


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* Ham since 1937 HiSchool Sophomore ex W9ZUU, KP4EX, W4FAG, KH6ARG KH6JF *
* WW2 Vet since Sep 1940 to just After VJ day. US Signal Corps AACS *
************************************************** ************************
See ARRL URL:
http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/reg...ndplan.html#2m

Sez
Weak signal and FM simplex (145.01,03,05,07,09 are widely used for packet

This true in the San Diego area

CL

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On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 10:48:18 -1000, Joseph Fenn wrote:

Can someone advise me if I have the correct freqcys on 2 meters for
VHF Packet. I was told 145.01 145.03 145.05 (are commonly used for
VHF Packet).

145.01,03,05,07,09

Is it legal to turn on your Beacon say with a setting of every 30
mins?
Joe/KH6JF

Yes, even more frequently, the only strict requirement is an ID. Wise
use of beacons is always suggested, not regulated

http://www.choisser.com/packet/part13.html

In my area, packet is fairly dead Causing clutter would be hard.

gerry WA1WIG

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"Joseph Fenn" wrote in message
va.net...
Can someone advise me if I have the correct freqcys on 2 meters for
VHF Packet. I was told 145.01 145.03 145.05 (are commonly used for
VHF Packet). While I have done all my Packet on MARS freqcys for
last 50 years or so, I recently resigned and have hardly ever
gotten on the Ham bands. I use A C128 computer and the German
packet software called "DIGICOM V5".
Is it legal to turn on your Beacon say with a setting of every 30
mins?
Joe/KH6JF


To be strictly legal you can set it for beacon for as long as you are around
the shack . If you leave then you can not use the beacon mode. Beacons
must be kept in certain portions of the band.

§97.203 Beacon station.
(a) Any amateur station licensed to a holder of a Technician, Technician
Plus, General, Advanced or Amateur Extra Class operator license may be a
beacon. A holder of a Technician, Technician Plus, General, Advanced or
Amateur Extra Class operator license may be the control operator of a
beacon, subject to the privileges of the class of operator license held.

(b) A beacon must not concurrently transmit on more than 1 channel in the
same amateur service frequency band, from the same station location.

(c) The transmitter power of a beacon must not exceed 100 W.

(d) A beacon may be automatically controlled while it is transmitting on the
28.20-28.30 MHz, 50.06-50.08 MHz, 144.275-144.300 MHz, 222.05-222.06 MHz, or
432.300-432.400 MHz segments, or on the 33 cm and shorter wavelength bands.

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wrote:


"Joseph Fenn" wrote in message
ava.net...
Can someone advise me if I have the correct freqcys on 2 meters for
VHF Packet. I was told 145.01 145.03 145.05 (are commonly used for
VHF Packet). While I have done all my Packet on MARS freqcys for
last 50 years or so, I recently resigned and have hardly ever
gotten on the Ham bands. I use A C128 computer and the German
packet software called "DIGICOM V5".
Is it legal to turn on your Beacon say with a setting of every 30
mins?
Joe/KH6JF


To be strictly legal you can set it for beacon for as long as you are around
the shack . If you leave then you can not use the beacon mode. Beacons
must be kept in certain portions of the band.

I believe you are referencing propagation beacons, not "beacon" as used
in the sense of a TNC command.

Without a packet "beacon" how would even discover another station or
node exists? Usage of nodes is invaluable.

Gerry/WA1WIG

§97.203 Beacon station.


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On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 10:48:18 -1000, Joseph Fenn wrote:

C128 computer

Kewl!

73 de Mike VE6HMG

On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 10:48:18 -1000, Joseph Fenn wrote:
Can someone advise me if I have the correct freqcys on 2 meters for
VHF Packet. I was told 145.01 145.03 145.05 (are commonly used for
VHF Packet). While I have done all my Packet on MARS freqcys for
last 50 years or so, I recently resigned and have hardly ever
gotten on the Ham bands. I use A C128 computer and the German
packet software called "DIGICOM V5".
Is it legal to turn on your Beacon say with a setting of every 30
mins?
Joe/KH6JF


Those were common VHF packet frequencies... 15 years ago. :-)

Since then, VHF packet has been dead for a decade in most areas
of the U.S. The once wide-spread packet networks fell apart pretty
quickly once the Internet became popular.

- Rich


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user wrote in
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On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 10:48:18 -1000, Joseph Fenn
wrote:
Can someone advise me if I have the correct freqcys on 2 meters for
VHF Packet. I was told 145.01 145.03 145.05 (are commonly used for
VHF Packet). While I have done all my Packet on MARS freqcys for
last 50 years or so, I recently resigned and have hardly ever
gotten on the Ham bands. I use A C128 computer and the German
packet software called "DIGICOM V5".
Is it legal to turn on your Beacon say with a setting of every 30
mins?
Joe/KH6JF


Those were common VHF packet frequencies... 15 years ago. :-)

Since then, VHF packet has been dead for a decade in most areas
of the U.S. The once wide-spread packet networks fell apart pretty
quickly once the Internet became popular.

Which is a shame, because, in a real emergency a lot of those Wifi ports
will close up due to lack of power, internet connectivity or both.

There's still an active set of Rose switches here in BC, covering a good
part of the southern part of the province and Vancouver Island. We're
also blessed with a couple of good full duplex digipeaters that give
wide-area coverage without a lot of hidden nodes. The one on 145.07
(input 145.67) is really quite good. You don't need to mention the
digipeater's call in your connection unless you're linking out to the UHF
side.

Hidden node collisions were ALWAYS the problem in VHF and UHF packet. If
the politics had been better, most of those could have been eliminated
through the use of full duplex digipeaters and full duplex exclusive two-
way backbones between nodes.


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ICQ 1800667

Ok Dave on your fillin. Yes we still have a dedicated TheNet packet vhf
system in the Isles. It is a node system however and uses TheNet
software which I know very little about. Its on 145.07 and has reptrs
on top of Mt Haleakala on MAUI island, also on MT Maunaloa on the big
island of Hawaii. I have figured out a few of the cmds and can connect
to MAUI (an alias for Maui), can also after connecting do a
c mloa (which then connects to the alias MLOA so that covers most
of the State except Kauai. I can use the TALK cmd and ragchew with
someone os actually send tfc via the talk cmd if a host is available.
Just talked to Civil Defense guy I have known for years, and he says
that system was setup for emgcy comms originally on 145.07 bit it mp
is no longer used for anything. I could still sent emgcy traffic
to the other islands tho in case of a real emergency. Just use
the C(onnect cmd then switch to talk or c to another alias and talk.
I run my beacon on 145.07 just to see if can scare up some interest.
So far nothing happening.
Joe/KH6JF

Joseph Fenn wrote in
va.net:

Ok Dave on your fillin. Yes we still have a dedicated TheNet packet
vhf
system in the Isles. It is a node system however and uses TheNet
software which I know very little about. Its on 145.07 and has reptrs
on top of Mt Haleakala on MAUI island, also on MT Maunaloa on the big
island of Hawaii. I have figured out a few of the cmds and can connect
to MAUI (an alias for Maui), can also after connecting do a
c mloa (which then connects to the alias MLOA so that covers most
of the State except Kauai. I can use the TALK cmd and ragchew with
someone os actually send tfc via the talk cmd if a host is available.
Just talked to Civil Defense guy I have known for years, and he says
that system was setup for emgcy comms originally on 145.07 bit it mp
is no longer used for anything. I could still sent emgcy traffic
to the other islands tho in case of a real emergency. Just use
the C(onnect cmd then switch to talk or c to another alias and talk.
I run my beacon on 145.07 just to see if can scare up some interest.
So far nothing happening.

You know, back around 1990 when I was sort of shifting gears from packet
BBS sysop to landline sysop, we had a packet node network in the east
(consisting mostly of NETROM and TheNET) that ran all the way up to
Ontario from Nova Scotia and all the way down to DC. In fact, using the
IPARN Ottawa-Calgary backbone, I was almost able (couldn't sustain the
connection) to reach Halifax from Spearfish, SD back in 1989. But the
Spearfish-to-Calgary link was rather primitive, if I recall--mostly KA-
Nodes.

Nowadays, here in the Fraser Valley, I'm confronted with several
disconnected pieces of packet technology that don't seem to have much
connectivity to anywhere except local puddles of activity. If I knew a
place where I could run up a 2m Jnos system, I'd probably poke it in the
middle of one of the local TheNet clusters and backbone it to a bunch of
nodes via the internet. But it would have to be somewhere away from here
because I value my 2m FM QSO's and a packet node without some cavities to
clean up the desensing would be just too much.

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Dave Oldridge+
ICQ 1800667