"Charles Brabham" writes:
I know what you mean... When the ARRL starts to mandate which digital mode
we must use, then rationality and the scientific method both go out the
window.

I don't have a problem with the idea of mandating in favor of some
digital modes at the expense of others. But the mandated modes should
be non-proprietary. Spectrum is not the property of any particular vendor.

"Paul Rubin" wrote in message
...
"Charles Brabham" writes:
I know what you mean... When the ARRL starts to mandate which digital
mode
we must use, then rationality and the scientific method both go out the
window.

I don't have a problem with the idea of mandating in favor of some
digital modes at the expense of others. But the mandated modes should
be non-proprietary. Spectrum is not the property of any particular
vendor.

I think you missed the point.

WinLink2K depends on connectivity to the internet to work.
For emergency communication it is totally useless.

If the internet were available, one would simple USE it
in the normal manner. If it is not available, WinLink2K
is of no help to you at all. The whole concept is a scam.

--

... Hank

http://home.earthlink.net/~horedson
http://home.earthlink.net/~w0rli

"Hank Oredson" writes:
I think you missed the point.

WinLink2K depends on connectivity to the internet to work. For
emergency communication it is totally useless.

I'm not sure what WinLink2K is or what its relation to emergency
communication is supposed to be. Is there a url about it?

I've been interested for a while in a packet mode that uses the
internet. An endpoint node wouldn't have to be on the net, but it
would connect to a remote node that also had internet connectivity.
So it would be fine for an emergency at the endpoint. If there was a
catastrophe that took out the whole internet, then it wouldn't work.

Gidday Paul

There has been for years

The NOS TCP/IP over AX25 system that was setup around the late 1980's
allows you to have gateways with various interfaces and tunnels. ie
connected radios, modems, ethernet etc. There use to be quite a few
wormholes where one use to pass packets without infringing amateur
licenses. Basically you can either run TCP/IP over radio and internet
links with any kind of routing/rerouting protocol you like. Each point
where there are dual interfaces can also be an intelligent gateway/server.

Apart from political and possibly legal reasons there is no technical
problem with setting up a RF (amateur) link to replace/failover internet
ones. Some care must obviously be exercised in bandwidth requirements.

There is a lot more available on this that is beyond the small scope of
my post.

Linux boxes for example can do this job nowadays. I believe there are
Windows equivalents but havent checked.

Cheers Bob VK2YQA

Paul Rubin wrote:


I'm not sure what WinLink2K is or what its relation to emergency
communication is supposed to be. Is there a url about it?

I've been interested for a while in a packet mode that uses the
internet. An endpoint node wouldn't have to be on the net, but it
would connect to a remote node that also had internet connectivity.
So it would be fine for an emergency at the endpoint. If there was a
catastrophe that took out the whole internet, then it wouldn't work.

Bob Bob writes:
The NOS TCP/IP over AX25 system that was setup around the late 1980's
allows you to have gateways with various interfaces and tunnels.

I'm familiar with NOS but I don't understand what it has to do with
WinLink2K. What specifically is WinLink2K? Thanks.

Sorry Paul I havent been taking any notice of it.. grin

Anything with "Win" in its name implies an OS I dont use! (or at least
very rarely)

Cheers Bob

Paul Rubin wrote:

I'm familiar with NOS but I don't understand what it has to do with
WinLink2K. What specifically is WinLink2K? Thanks.

Goggle WinLink, WL2K, AirMail.

--

... Hank

http://home.earthlink.net/~horedson
http://home.earthlink.net/~w0rli
"Paul Rubin" wrote in message
...
"Hank Oredson" writes:
I think you missed the point.

WinLink2K depends on connectivity to the internet to work. For
emergency communication it is totally useless.

I'm not sure what WinLink2K is or what its relation to emergency
communication is supposed to be. Is there a url about it?

I've been interested for a while in a packet mode that uses the
internet. An endpoint node wouldn't have to be on the net, but it
would connect to a remote node that also had internet connectivity.
So it would be fine for an emergency at the endpoint. If there was a
catastrophe that took out the whole internet, then it wouldn't work.