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Old April 23rd 04, 12:18 AM
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This might be off topic for the group, but does anyone here know if
amateur-style packet can legally be used on FRS and/or GMRS? I am looking
to build a low-cost data system for family use (I never could get my kid
licensed) and possibly for a small business. Also, is encryption legal in
these bands? I know that encryption is not legal in the amateur bands, but
I also know that at least rudimentary encryption is used on some business
radios.

Any help or pointers appreciated.

Dave

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Old April 23rd 04, 12:28 AM
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Well, I guess I could have done a little searching first: it seems that
homebrew digital is not permitted in either service, any digital formats
must be type-accepted. Does anyone know if there is any business service
that allows non-standard digital transmissions?

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This might be off topic for the group, but does anyone here know if
amateur-style packet can legally be used on FRS and/or GMRS? I am looking
to build a low-cost data system for family use (I never could get my kid
licensed) and possibly for a small business. Also, is encryption legal in
these bands? I know that encryption is not legal in the amateur bands,

but
I also know that at least rudimentary encryption is used on some business
radios.

Any help or pointers appreciated.

Dave



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Old April 23rd 04, 12:28 AM
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Well, I guess I could have done a little searching first: it seems that
homebrew digital is not permitted in either service, any digital formats
must be type-accepted. Does anyone know if there is any business service
that allows non-standard digital transmissions?

"dave d" wrote in message
. com...

This might be off topic for the group, but does anyone here know if
amateur-style packet can legally be used on FRS and/or GMRS? I am looking
to build a low-cost data system for family use (I never could get my kid
licensed) and possibly for a small business. Also, is encryption legal in
these bands? I know that encryption is not legal in the amateur bands,

but
I also know that at least rudimentary encryption is used on some business
radios.

Any help or pointers appreciated.

Dave



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Old April 23rd 04, 02:48 PM
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Hi Dave,
If my memory serves, MURS 151.8?? allows data. Trouble is that you can only
use 2w pep I think.
http://www.provide.net/~prsg/murs_faq.htm
Dave Hubbell N2KTO




"dave d" wrote in message
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This might be off topic for the group, but does anyone here know if
amateur-style packet can legally be used on FRS and/or GMRS? I am looking
to build a low-cost data system for family use (I never could get my kid
licensed) and possibly for a small business. Also, is encryption legal in
these bands? I know that encryption is not legal in the amateur bands,

but
I also know that at least rudimentary encryption is used on some business
radios.

Any help or pointers appreciated.

Dave

Turing test: direct reply to no small round character used at end of a
sentence des &%$ sbcglobal point net




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Hi Dave,
If my memory serves, MURS 151.8?? allows data. Trouble is that you can only
use 2w pep I think.
http://www.provide.net/~prsg/murs_faq.htm
Dave Hubbell N2KTO




"dave d" wrote in message
. com...

This might be off topic for the group, but does anyone here know if
amateur-style packet can legally be used on FRS and/or GMRS? I am looking
to build a low-cost data system for family use (I never could get my kid
licensed) and possibly for a small business. Also, is encryption legal in
these bands? I know that encryption is not legal in the amateur bands,

but
I also know that at least rudimentary encryption is used on some business
radios.

Any help or pointers appreciated.

Dave

Turing test: direct reply to no small round character used at end of a
sentence des &%$ sbcglobal point net






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Old April 24th 04, 05:54 AM
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David Hubbell wrote:

Hi Dave,
If my memory serves, MURS 151.8?? allows data. Trouble is that you can only
use 2w pep I think.
http://www.provide.net/~prsg/murs_faq.htm



Yeah, where's MURS-Stu?

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David Hubbell wrote:

Hi Dave,
If my memory serves, MURS 151.8?? allows data. Trouble is that you can only
use 2w pep I think.
http://www.provide.net/~prsg/murs_faq.htm



Yeah, where's MURS-Stu?

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Yeah, sorry. Encryption's not legal on the FRS/GMRS. I'm pretty sure
that commercial comms aren't legal with 'em either. I know we see some
stores and shops using them from time to time but it ain't what it was
intended for. I couldn't venture a guess about commercial licensees.
They've got to be paying good money for the bandwidth and have a legitimate
need for privacy ($$$). Good luck.
o_o_o_o
Best Regards, /| ,[_____],
Jim, WP3JQ |¯¯¯L --O|||||||O-
()_)¯()_) ¯¯¯¯¯ )_)
EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W
"dave d" wrote in message
. com...

This might be off topic for the group, but does anyone here know if
amateur-style packet can legally be used on FRS and/or GMRS? I am looking
to build a low-cost data system for family use (I never could get my kid
licensed) and possibly for a small business. Also, is encryption legal in
these bands? I know that encryption is not legal in the amateur bands,

but
I also know that at least rudimentary encryption is used on some business
radios.

Any help or pointers appreciated.

Dave

Turing test: direct reply to no small round character used at end of a
sentence des &%$ sbcglobal point net




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Old April 30th 04, 04:04 AM
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Yeah, sorry. Encryption's not legal on the FRS/GMRS. I'm pretty sure
that commercial comms aren't legal with 'em either. I know we see some
stores and shops using them from time to time but it ain't what it was
intended for. I couldn't venture a guess about commercial licensees.
They've got to be paying good money for the bandwidth and have a legitimate
need for privacy ($$$). Good luck.
o_o_o_o
Best Regards, /| ,[_____],
Jim, WP3JQ |¯¯¯L --O|||||||O-
()_)¯()_) ¯¯¯¯¯ )_)
EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W
"dave d" wrote in message
. com...

This might be off topic for the group, but does anyone here know if
amateur-style packet can legally be used on FRS and/or GMRS? I am looking
to build a low-cost data system for family use (I never could get my kid
licensed) and possibly for a small business. Also, is encryption legal in
these bands? I know that encryption is not legal in the amateur bands,

but
I also know that at least rudimentary encryption is used on some business
radios.

Any help or pointers appreciated.

Dave

Turing test: direct reply to no small round character used at end of a
sentence des &%$ sbcglobal point net




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Dana Myers wrote in message news:4089f2d8$1@wobble...
David Hubbell wrote:

Hi Dave,
If my memory serves, MURS 151.8?? allows data. Trouble is that you can only
use 2w pep I think.
http://www.provide.net/~prsg/murs_faq.htm



Yeah, where's MURS-Stu?


Here I am...

The no-license MURS service allows 2W transmitter power, gain
antennas, and voice/data.

- Stewart
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/MURS-OPEN
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