Charles Brabham wrote:

APRS was developed as a packet radio "killer application" by folks
associated with TAPR in the US.

The idea is to kill any interest in packet by eliminating its most
interesting and useful features, substituting a pointless
internet-dependent activity sure to put just about anyone to sleep....

I don't see why one person's dislike for a particular use of a couple
frequencies should be grounds for such an attack. Hams do lots of different
things, which is one of the attractions of the hobby. I have no real
interest in APRS, but if others find it amusing to hook three or more
different kinds of technology together to do something, why not? It is no
more pointless than DX or moonbounce or QRP or dozens of other ham
activities. If some people are having fun and learning a few things, more
power to them, except the QRP crowd, of of course. N5PVL needs to get
himself a hobby.

John, WA9FCH

On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 02:55:30 GMT, John McHarry wrote:
Charles Brabham wrote:

APRS was developed as a packet radio "killer application" by folks
associated with TAPR in the US.

The idea is to kill any interest in packet by eliminating its most
interesting and useful features, substituting a pointless
internet-dependent activity sure to put just about anyone to sleep....

I don't see why one person's dislike for a particular use of a couple
frequencies should be grounds for such an attack. Hams do lots of different
things, which is one of the attractions of the hobby. I have no real
interest in APRS, but if others find it amusing to hook three or more
different kinds of technology together to do something, why not? It is no
more pointless than DX or moonbounce or QRP or dozens of other ham
activities. If some people are having fun and learning a few things, more
power to them, except the QRP crowd, of of course. N5PVL needs to get
himself a hobby.

Just ignore Charles. Every now and then he'll get up and
start screeching about how this, that, and the other thing
has "killed packet", occasionally try to drive people to look
at his website ( When was that thing last updated? 1998? ),
and then sit back and try to abuse anyone who responds to him.

Almost makes me wonder what ever happened to Burt Fisher....

"Here to there" - a nameless, no-callsign troll -
wrote in message
...
Charles Brabham wrote:

APRS was developed as a packet radio "killer application" by folks
associated with TAPR in the US.

The idea is to kill any interest in packet by eliminating its most
interesting and useful features, substituting a pointless
internet-dependent activity sure to put just about anyone to sleep....


Just ignore Charles. Every now and then he'll get up and
start screeching about how this, that, and the other thing
has "killed packet", occasionally try to drive people to look
at his website ( When was that thing last updated? 1998? ),

The web site was created in 2002, Einstein, and last updated three days ago.
There was a major re-write six months or so ago.

You can check it out (obviously you need to) at: http://www.uspacket.org

and then sit back and try to abuse anyone who responds to him.

Just the morons and nameless no-callsign trolls, such as yourself.

I'm friendly with everybody else, and will not apologize for stepping on
toes that were made to be stepped on. - such as yours.

Almost makes me wonder what ever happened to Burt Fisher....

Is he the new president at TAPR? That would fit like a glove...
BWAHAHAHAHAWR!

Charles, N5PVL

"Here to there" - a nameless, no-callsign troll -
wrote in message
...
Charles Brabham wrote:

APRS was developed as a packet radio "killer application" by folks
associated with TAPR in the US.

The idea is to kill any interest in packet by eliminating its most
interesting and useful features, substituting a pointless
internet-dependent activity sure to put just about anyone to sleep....


Just ignore Charles. Every now and then he'll get up and
start screeching about how this, that, and the other thing
has "killed packet", occasionally try to drive people to look
at his website ( When was that thing last updated? 1998? ),

The web site was created in 2002, Einstein, and last updated three days ago.
There was a major re-write six months or so ago.

You can check it out (obviously you need to) at: http://www.uspacket.org

and then sit back and try to abuse anyone who responds to him.

Just the morons and nameless no-callsign trolls, such as yourself.

I'm friendly with everybody else, and will not apologize for stepping on
toes that were made to be stepped on. - such as yours.

Almost makes me wonder what ever happened to Burt Fisher....

Is he the new president at TAPR? That would fit like a glove...
BWAHAHAHAHAWR!

Charles, N5PVL

"John McHarry" wrote in message
ink.net...
Charles Brabham wrote:

APRS was developed as a packet radio "killer application" by folks
associated with TAPR in the US.

The idea is to kill any interest in packet by eliminating its most
interesting and useful features, substituting a pointless
internet-dependent activity sure to put just about anyone to sleep....

I don't see why one person's dislike for a particular use of a couple
frequencies should be grounds for such an attack.

I looked back at my post, and did not see any reference to "a particular use
of a couple frequencies ", or any attack of any kind.

Do you have any response to what I actually said? - Or will you just put
words in other people's mouths and then answer them, effectively debating
with yourself?

Hams do lots of different
things, which is one of the attractions of the hobby. I have no real
interest in APRS, but if others find it amusing to hook three or more
different kinds of technology together to do something, why not?

I don't know... Since you have brought up the question of somehow "not
allowing APRS", perhaps you can answer yourself. - Again.

It is no
more pointless than DX or moonbounce or QRP or dozens of other ham
activities. If some people are having fun and learning a few things, more
power to them, except the QRP crowd, of of course.

That's your opinion, and you are welcome to it. My opinion is that ARPS is
pointless, but that "DX or moonbounce or QRP or dozens of other ham
activities" are not. The "ham activities" you mention are legitimate
applications of amateur radio.

N5PVL needs to get himself a hobby.

I have a hobby.. It's called Amateur Radio, not Amateur Telephone. We
amateur radio operators are funny, in that we try to see what can be done
with radio.

Try it out sometime.

Charles, N5PVL

On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 02:55:30 GMT, John McHarry wrote:
Charles Brabham wrote:

APRS was developed as a packet radio "killer application" by folks
associated with TAPR in the US.

The idea is to kill any interest in packet by eliminating its most
interesting and useful features, substituting a pointless
internet-dependent activity sure to put just about anyone to sleep....

I don't see why one person's dislike for a particular use of a couple
frequencies should be grounds for such an attack. Hams do lots of different
things, which is one of the attractions of the hobby. I have no real
interest in APRS, but if others find it amusing to hook three or more
different kinds of technology together to do something, why not? It is no
more pointless than DX or moonbounce or QRP or dozens of other ham
activities. If some people are having fun and learning a few things, more
power to them, except the QRP crowd, of of course. N5PVL needs to get
himself a hobby.

Just ignore Charles. Every now and then he'll get up and
start screeching about how this, that, and the other thing
has "killed packet", occasionally try to drive people to look
at his website ( When was that thing last updated? 1998? ),
and then sit back and try to abuse anyone who responds to him.

Almost makes me wonder what ever happened to Burt Fisher....

"John McHarry" wrote in message
ink.net...
Charles Brabham wrote:

APRS was developed as a packet radio "killer application" by folks
associated with TAPR in the US.

The idea is to kill any interest in packet by eliminating its most
interesting and useful features, substituting a pointless
internet-dependent activity sure to put just about anyone to sleep....

I don't see why one person's dislike for a particular use of a couple
frequencies should be grounds for such an attack.

I looked back at my post, and did not see any reference to "a particular use
of a couple frequencies ", or any attack of any kind.

Do you have any response to what I actually said? - Or will you just put
words in other people's mouths and then answer them, effectively debating
with yourself?

Hams do lots of different
things, which is one of the attractions of the hobby. I have no real
interest in APRS, but if others find it amusing to hook three or more
different kinds of technology together to do something, why not?

I don't know... Since you have brought up the question of somehow "not
allowing APRS", perhaps you can answer yourself. - Again.

It is no
more pointless than DX or moonbounce or QRP or dozens of other ham
activities. If some people are having fun and learning a few things, more
power to them, except the QRP crowd, of of course.

That's your opinion, and you are welcome to it. My opinion is that ARPS is
pointless, but that "DX or moonbounce or QRP or dozens of other ham
activities" are not. The "ham activities" you mention are legitimate
applications of amateur radio.

N5PVL needs to get himself a hobby.

I have a hobby.. It's called Amateur Radio, not Amateur Telephone. We
amateur radio operators are funny, in that we try to see what can be done
with radio.

Try it out sometime.

Charles, N5PVL