"N1KI" wrote in message
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N1KI wrote:
Does FT5XO have an online log?

Why would you need one?

Peter Lemken
DF5JT
Berlin



Once I know a dxpeditioin has my call sign entered in their log correctly,
I quit calling them. That way others who still need to work them have a
better chance of doing so. It is called courtesy, something you don't see
much on on major dxpedition frequencies, so I understand why you would
ask..

You mean you can't tell if you worked them, if you work them ???
I'm soooo confused ...

--

... Hank

http://home.earthlink.net/~horedson
http://home.earthlink.net/~w0rli

In article , "Hank Oredson" wrote:
"N1KI" wrote in message
...
In article ,
wrote:
N1KI wrote:
Does FT5XO have an online log?

Why would you need one?

Peter Lemken
DF5JT
Berlin



Once I know a dxpeditioin has my call sign entered in their log correctly,
I quit calling them. That way others who still need to work them have a
better chance of doing so. It is called courtesy, something you don't see
much on on major dxpedition frequencies, so I understand why you would
ask..

You mean you can't tell if you worked them, if you work them ???
I'm soooo confused ...


Then I will make it simple. The key words are "log" and "entered correctly".
Typo's and transpositions do occur. If you need more help with simple words
and concepts, please feel free to ask. I try to exercise patience as well as
courtesy. Unless, of course, you are wasting bandwith by trolling.

"N1KI" wrote in message
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In article , "Hank
Oredson" wrote:
"N1KI" wrote in message
...
In article ,
wrote:
N1KI wrote:
Does FT5XO have an online log?

Why would you need one?

Peter Lemken
DF5JT
Berlin



Once I know a dxpeditioin has my call sign entered in their log
correctly,
I quit calling them. That way others who still need to work them have a
better chance of doing so. It is called courtesy, something you don't
see
much on on major dxpedition frequencies, so I understand why you would
ask..

You mean you can't tell if you worked them, if you work them ???
I'm soooo confused ...


Then I will make it simple. The key words are "log" and "entered
correctly".
Typo's and transpositions do occur. If you need more help with simple
words
and concepts, please feel free to ask. I try to exercise patience as well
as
courtesy. Unless, of course, you are wasting bandwith by trolling.



I had one entirely miss logging my contact one time. There was no confusion
as to who they were talking to but it simply didn't get logged.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

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"N1KI" wrote in message
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In article , "Hank
Oredson" wrote:
"N1KI" wrote in message
...
In article ,
wrote:
N1KI wrote:
Does FT5XO have an online log?

Why would you need one?

Peter Lemken
DF5JT
Berlin



Once I know a dxpeditioin has my call sign entered in their log
correctly,
I quit calling them. That way others who still need to work them have a
better chance of doing so. It is called courtesy, something you don't
see
much on on major dxpedition frequencies, so I understand why you would
ask..

You mean you can't tell if you worked them, if you work them ???
I'm soooo confused ...


Then I will make it simple. The key words are "log" and "entered
correctly".
Typo's and transpositions do occur. If you need more help with simple
words
and concepts, please feel free to ask. I try to exercise patience as well
as
courtesy. Unless, of course, you are wasting bandwith by trolling.



I had one entirely miss logging my contact one time. There was no confusion
as to who they were talking to but it simply didn't get logged.

This isn't really all that unusual. My first Kure
Island QSO many years ago happened exactly like
that. It was toward the end of the DXpedition.
I know he copied everything, because we had something
of an actual QSO, rather than "59 QRZ?" Yet, he
still failed to put me in the log.

I was so upset! Being young and naive, I thought
I would never work Kure again! :-)

73,
Bob

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| Bob Schreibmaier K3PH | E-mail: |
| Kresgeville, PA 18333 | http://www.dxis.org |
+----------------------------------------------+

"N1KI" wrote in message
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In article , "Hank
Oredson" wrote:
"N1KI" wrote in message
...
In article ,
wrote:
N1KI wrote:
Does FT5XO have an online log?

Why would you need one?

Peter Lemken
DF5JT
Berlin



Once I know a dxpeditioin has my call sign entered in their log
correctly,
I quit calling them. That way others who still need to work them have a
better chance of doing so. It is called courtesy, something you don't
see
much on on major dxpedition frequencies, so I understand why you would
ask..

You mean you can't tell if you worked them, if you work them ???
I'm soooo confused ...


Then I will make it simple. The key words are "log" and "entered
correctly".
Typo's and transpositions do occur. If you need more help with simple
words
and concepts, please feel free to ask. I try to exercise patience as well
as
courtesy. Unless, of course, you are wasting bandwith by trolling.


Dunno ... I never seem to have those kinds of problems.
Work 'em, that's that. In the log.
That's why I'm confused.
Does it happen to you a lot?
Try to excercise a bit more patience and courtesy and explain.

--

... Hank

http://home.earthlink.net/~horedson
http://home.earthlink.net/~w0rli

Work 'em, that's that. In the log.
That's why I'm confused.

If I hear the op send A A 5 B crash 599, where "crash" is
QRN or some QRM, and there's no on-line log during the
expedition, what do you recommend that I do? I can hope
that AA5B-something-else was not in the pile-up, but there
are 26 of those (27 if you count Bruce AA5B himself).

If this has never happened to you, you lead a charmed life -
so far, anyway!

Derek
aa5bt or aa5-crash-t or something similar

"Derek Wills" wrote in message
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Work 'em, that's that. In the log.
That's why I'm confused.

If I hear the op send A A 5 B crash 599, where "crash" is
QRN or some QRM, and there's no on-line log during the
expedition, what do you recommend that I do? I can hope
that AA5B-something-else was not in the pile-up, but there
are 26 of those (27 if you count Bruce AA5B himself).

I suggest you ask for a repeat.
If you didn't copy your callsign, you didn't work him.

If this has never happened to you, you lead a charmed life -
so far, anyway!

That "so far" is a fairly long "so far" :-)

--

... Hank

http://home.earthlink.net/~horedson
http://home.earthlink.net/~w0rli

Derek Wills wrote:
Work 'em, that's that. In the log.
That's why I'm confused.

If I hear the op send A A 5 B crash 599, where "crash" is
QRN or some QRM, and there's no on-line log during the
expedition, what do you recommend that I do?

Don't give him a report.

I can hope
that AA5B-something-else was not in the pile-up, but there
are 26 of those (27 if you count Bruce AA5B himself).

If this has never happened to you, you lead a charmed life -
so far, anyway!

Derek
aa5bt or aa5-crash-t or something similar

Happened to me the other night on 40 with FT5XO. I simply did not give a
report but just repeated my call twice. He then came back right on time and
this time I heard my call back for sure. The QSO took about 10 seconds
longer than usual, so I guess that's an acceptable way of making sure the
contact was good.

Peter Lemken
DF5JT
Berlin

--
Was schlechten Geschmack so berauschend macht, ist die aristokratische
Wonne der Verärgerung.

-- Charles Baudelaire

On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 02:52:51 GMT, "Hank Oredson"
wrote:

[snip]

Then I will make it simple. The key words are "log" and "entered
correctly".
Typo's and transpositions do occur. If you need more help with simple
words
and concepts, please feel free to ask. I try to exercise patience as well
as
courtesy. Unless, of course, you are wasting bandwith by trolling.


Dunno ... I never seem to have those kinds of problems.
Work 'em, that's that. In the log.
That's why I'm confused.
Does it happen to you a lot?


I have before me a handwritten note from JR2KON received after I sent
a QSL for an 80 meter QSO with VP6DIA. I *know* that I worked them
but was not in the online log. I submitted a card anyway (worked 'em
on other bands) asked him to double check.

Quote:

Dear OM Wes

Check the log 12 Mar 2003 1318 UTC 3.8 MHz QSO is N7*U*S (emphasis
added) But N7US is total 6 QSOs (include 75m SSB) He is no request
now. de JR2KON Yuichi

So I email Jim, N7US, and he confirms that he didn't work them at that
time and date.

I will resubmit with a copy of the email (already forwarded to JR2KON)
and expect to get the promised QSL.

So yes, it does happen. And this isn't the only time for me.

In article et, "Hank Oredson" wrote:
"N1KI" wrote in message
...
In article , "Hank
Oredson" wrote:
"N1KI" wrote in message
...
In article ,
wrote:
N1KI wrote:
Does FT5XO have an online log?

Why would you need one?

Peter Lemken
DF5JT
Berlin



Once I know a dxpeditioin has my call sign entered in their log
correctly,
I quit calling them. That way others who still need to work them have a
better chance of doing so. It is called courtesy, something you don't
see
much on on major dxpedition frequencies, so I understand why you would
ask..

You mean you can't tell if you worked them, if you work them ???
I'm soooo confused ...


Then I will make it simple. The key words are "log" and "entered
correctly".
Typo's and transpositions do occur. If you need more help with simple
words
and concepts, please feel free to ask. I try to exercise patience as well
as
courtesy. Unless, of course, you are wasting bandwith by trolling.


Dunno ... I never seem to have those kinds of problems.
Work 'em, that's that. In the log.
That's why I'm confused.
Does it happen to you a lot?
Try to excercise a bit more patience and courtesy and explain.



Enough people have responded with their experiences to make it clear to a
reasonable person why on-line logs are helpful. Being patient is not the same
as and wasting time and bandwidth feeding the trolls. Enough said....