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AA July 21st 03 02:42 PM

Fight the BPL
 
Most due to crappy power lines and insulators. Now add BPL with wideband
digital signals and you have a notion of how it will sound.
I have been working with Alabama power for almost 5 years now. Including the
ARRL and the FCC on their ass. And its still not fixed. Wait till BPL is
deployed. Dan/W4NTI

Exactly right. 4 mo ago....found an arcing connection on a powerpole 2 mi. from
the house...humid days, you could see the arc...called 4 times to the power
folks....still could pick up the arc S9+ on humid days even after they had
"repaired" it 3 weeks later. Finally, the failing insulator burned thru or
physically failed (I wasn't there that day) and they replaced the entire
assembly on that pole. Amazing what you can hear when the spark gap
transmitter (heh..."beacon?") shuts down! Now, if someone had been STEALING
electricity, they'd have been out 30 seconds later. Hmmmmm.......maybe that
is what I should say next time I've got an arcing line.

A





AA July 21st 03 02:42 PM

Most due to crappy power lines and insulators. Now add BPL with wideband
digital signals and you have a notion of how it will sound.
I have been working with Alabama power for almost 5 years now. Including the
ARRL and the FCC on their ass. And its still not fixed. Wait till BPL is
deployed. Dan/W4NTI

Exactly right. 4 mo ago....found an arcing connection on a powerpole 2 mi. from
the house...humid days, you could see the arc...called 4 times to the power
folks....still could pick up the arc S9+ on humid days even after they had
"repaired" it 3 weeks later. Finally, the failing insulator burned thru or
physically failed (I wasn't there that day) and they replaced the entire
assembly on that pole. Amazing what you can hear when the spark gap
transmitter (heh..."beacon?") shuts down! Now, if someone had been STEALING
electricity, they'd have been out 30 seconds later. Hmmmmm.......maybe that
is what I should say next time I've got an arcing line.

A





Mike July 31st 03 04:01 AM

I would have gave money 10 years ago if the ARRL had advocated dropping that
flippin' CW. Now that the ARRL is being pushed from the top down all they
want is money. Sounds like another government agency to me.

Zoran Brlecic wrote:

Even if you are not an ARRL member and/or disagree with its policy, you
should seriously consider contributing to this fund. If the BPL
technology ever gets implemented, this may very well be the end of ham
radio as we know it. Make no mistake about it - we're talking 60 dB
noise increase across the entire HF, not dropping the Morse requirement!
And for what? So that people in the rural areas of USA can have a faster
download from porn sites?

https://www.arrl.org/forms/development/donations/bpl/

A measly $25 - $100 can help prevent your $5000 equipment from becoming
an expensive coffee cup warmer.

73 .... WA7AA

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Mike July 31st 03 04:01 AM

I would have gave money 10 years ago if the ARRL had advocated dropping that
flippin' CW. Now that the ARRL is being pushed from the top down all they
want is money. Sounds like another government agency to me.

Zoran Brlecic wrote:

Even if you are not an ARRL member and/or disagree with its policy, you
should seriously consider contributing to this fund. If the BPL
technology ever gets implemented, this may very well be the end of ham
radio as we know it. Make no mistake about it - we're talking 60 dB
noise increase across the entire HF, not dropping the Morse requirement!
And for what? So that people in the rural areas of USA can have a faster
download from porn sites?

https://www.arrl.org/forms/development/donations/bpl/

A measly $25 - $100 can help prevent your $5000 equipment from becoming
an expensive coffee cup warmer.

73 .... WA7AA

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Keith July 31st 03 04:55 AM

On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 03:01:13 GMT, Mike wrote:

I would have gave money 10 years ago if the ARRL had advocated dropping that
flippin' CW. Now that the ARRL is being pushed from the top down all they
want is money. Sounds like another government agency to me.



Yes, this is too little to late. What are the ARRL boys going to do with the
extra money, buy some Senator a whore and put money in his campaign fund? No
thanks.



Zoran Brlecic wrote:

Even if you are not an ARRL member and/or disagree with its policy, you
should seriously consider contributing to this fund.


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Keith July 31st 03 04:55 AM

On Thu, 31 Jul 2003 03:01:13 GMT, Mike wrote:

I would have gave money 10 years ago if the ARRL had advocated dropping that
flippin' CW. Now that the ARRL is being pushed from the top down all they
want is money. Sounds like another government agency to me.



Yes, this is too little to late. What are the ARRL boys going to do with the
extra money, buy some Senator a whore and put money in his campaign fund? No
thanks.



Zoran Brlecic wrote:

Even if you are not an ARRL member and/or disagree with its policy, you
should seriously consider contributing to this fund.


--
The Radio Page Ham, Police Scanner, Shortwave and more.
http://www.kilowatt-radio.org/

Gary July 31st 03 08:27 PM

You'll be missed.

"JC" wrote in message
.com...
I will not contriube crap the the arrl. NOT A CENT. The have there OWN
agenda and not the general ham public. I was a member for 6 years and just
quit them. I will never go back.
"Mike" wrote in message
...
I would have gave money 10 years ago if the ARRL had advocated dropping

that
flippin' CW. Now that the ARRL is being pushed from the top down all

they
want is money. Sounds like another government agency to me.

Zoran Brlecic wrote:

Even if you are not an ARRL member and/or disagree with its policy,

you
should seriously consider contributing to this fund. If the BPL
technology ever gets implemented, this may very well be the end of ham
radio as we know it. Make no mistake about it - we're talking 60 dB
noise increase across the entire HF, not dropping the Morse

requirement!
And for what? So that people in the rural areas of USA can have a

faster
download from porn sites?

https://www.arrl.org/forms/development/donations/bpl/

A measly $25 - $100 can help prevent your $5000 equipment from

becoming
an expensive coffee cup warmer.

73 .... WA7AA

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Gary July 31st 03 08:27 PM

You'll be missed.

"JC" wrote in message
.com...
I will not contriube crap the the arrl. NOT A CENT. The have there OWN
agenda and not the general ham public. I was a member for 6 years and just
quit them. I will never go back.
"Mike" wrote in message
...
I would have gave money 10 years ago if the ARRL had advocated dropping

that
flippin' CW. Now that the ARRL is being pushed from the top down all

they
want is money. Sounds like another government agency to me.

Zoran Brlecic wrote:

Even if you are not an ARRL member and/or disagree with its policy,

you
should seriously consider contributing to this fund. If the BPL
technology ever gets implemented, this may very well be the end of ham
radio as we know it. Make no mistake about it - we're talking 60 dB
noise increase across the entire HF, not dropping the Morse

requirement!
And for what? So that people in the rural areas of USA can have a

faster
download from porn sites?

https://www.arrl.org/forms/development/donations/bpl/

A measly $25 - $100 can help prevent your $5000 equipment from

becoming
an expensive coffee cup warmer.

73 .... WA7AA

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reply:

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Brian Kelly August 1st 03 10:10 PM

wrote in message ...
In rec.radio.amateur.equipment JC wrote:
I will not contriube crap the the arrl. NOT A CENT. The have there OWN
agenda and not the general ham public. I was a member for 6 years and just
quit them. I will never go back.


Sorry you feel that way. We owe our ham radio to the ARRL -
they're all we have, all we ever have had, or will have.
Do you think the local CB club is going to look out for our
interests?

The ARRL has to cater to a lot of concerns, whether your operation
is with PSK31 or CW and link coupling.

A little OT, but I worry because we're losing the young interests
to the internet. If you're old enough to recall hearing the novice
bands come alive after 3PM when school let out, you'll know what I mean.


They weren't there, they'll never in this world get it.


73 Don K6LTS


w3rv

Brian Kelly August 1st 03 10:10 PM

wrote in message ...
In rec.radio.amateur.equipment JC wrote:
I will not contriube crap the the arrl. NOT A CENT. The have there OWN
agenda and not the general ham public. I was a member for 6 years and just
quit them. I will never go back.


Sorry you feel that way. We owe our ham radio to the ARRL -
they're all we have, all we ever have had, or will have.
Do you think the local CB club is going to look out for our
interests?

The ARRL has to cater to a lot of concerns, whether your operation
is with PSK31 or CW and link coupling.

A little OT, but I worry because we're losing the young interests
to the internet. If you're old enough to recall hearing the novice
bands come alive after 3PM when school let out, you'll know what I mean.


They weren't there, they'll never in this world get it.


73 Don K6LTS


w3rv


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