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Wes Stewart February 8th 06 02:52 PM

3Y0X
 
High line noise here but worked him fairly easily on 20 meters.

Doug Smith W9WI February 8th 06 04:17 PM

3Y0X
 
Wes Stewart wrote:
High line noise here but worked him fairly easily on 20 meters.


Congrats!

Likewise here (except no line noise!) on 17 CW.

Much to my surprise, the lids weren't out either. A brief burst of
someone asking three times whether the 3Y transmit frequency was in use
(and being answered "YES!!!" each time by half the planet) but that was
about it. Almost nobody calling out of turn. Pretty amazing.
Difference between this and the pile on the 6O last week? No idea.
Just because it was 17m? Doesn't seem likely but you never know...

Needed for alltime new one here. Will try to catch them for additional
band-countries (and hopefully on RTTY at some point) but won't be
beating my head against the wall to do it.

Signal seems MUCH, MUCH, MUCH better than the last Peter I expedition.
--
Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com

Ham stuff for sale:
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Ron February 8th 06 04:21 PM

3Y0X
 
Are you sure this wasn't a lid ? I didn't think they were going to get
set up for about another 3 days.

Wes Stewart wrote:

High line noise here but worked him fairly easily on 20 meters.


Doug Smith W9WI February 8th 06 05:17 PM

3Y0X
 
Ron wrote:
Are you sure this wasn't a lid ? I didn't think they were going to get
set up for about another 3 days.


On 17 they're peaking the right direction.

http://www.peterone.com/updates.htm says they're on the island and
expected to be on the air as of 0400 UTC today. (i.e. last night USA
time) There's no further news but I'm sure updating the website is
pretty low on their priority list right nowgrin!

On a very vaguely related subject...

I note in the last hour, three different 3Y calls have been spotted on
DX Summit... Either someone out there isn't paying attention, or there
are in fact a couple of "Slims" out there. To be honest I suspect the
former...
--
Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com

Ham stuff for sale:
http://www.w9wi.com/articles/4sale.htm


Wes Stewart February 8th 06 05:37 PM

3Y0X
 
On Wed, 08 Feb 2006 16:17:45 GMT, Doug Smith W9WI
wrote:

Wes Stewart wrote:
High line noise here but worked him fairly easily on 20 meters.


Congrats!


Likewise.


Likewise here (except no line noise!) on 17 CW.

Much to my surprise, the lids weren't out either. A brief burst of
someone asking three times whether the 3Y transmit frequency was in use
(and being answered "YES!!!" each time by half the planet) but that was
about it. Almost nobody calling out of turn. Pretty amazing.
Difference between this and the pile on the 6O last week? No idea.
Just because it was 17m? Doesn't seem likely but you never know...


I was having a tough time hearing him through the noise but things
seemed to be rather controlled on 20 also. The op seemed to take a
break (maybe he announced it but I didn't hear it) for a few minutes
and the calling stopped.

I waited and when he (or another op) returned, I got him on about the
fourth or fifth call. The noise had also dropped a bit which helped.

Needed for alltime new one here. Will try to catch them for additional
band-countries (and hopefully on RTTY at some point) but won't be
beating my head against the wall to do it.


Same here. Would like him on 80 mainly cuz I need some more countries
on 80, but the prop forecasts say it ain't going to happen.


Signal seems MUCH, MUCH, MUCH better than the last Peter I expedition.


Couldn't say, I wasn't on then, nor for any of the Heard expeditions
:(. May never get that one.


Doug Smith W9WI February 9th 06 02:45 PM

3Y0X
 
Spent a bit of time on them on 30 and 40 last night without success.
They seemed to be having some trouble pulling people out of the mess on
30 - it could be as much as 2 minutes between QSOs. (I suppose it could
be they were distracted by non-radio support activities at this point in
the expedition!)

On 40, unfortunately the lids were out in full force.

Ironically, the ones intentionally trying to interfere with the 3Y
operation were essentially ineffective. It was never difficult to know
what the 3Y was sending.

It was the lids who *didn't* have malicious intent who were causing the
most grief - the continuous callers who made it nearly impossible to
find the station the 3Y was working.

I did work FO/DL1AWI on 80. If they aren't in French Polynesia (haven't
looked 'em up yet) then they're a new one on that band. He'd been
working on 3506.5; he vanished, then popped back up calling CQ on 3508 -
I worked him on the first call out of the CQ. Sometimes you luck outgrin!

Couldn't say, I wasn't on then, nor for any of the Heard expeditions
:(. May never get that one.


Ouch.

I have worked Heard twice (sorryg) but there's never been much signal
there.

But the most interesting thing about DX in the new millenium is how
dynamic the Most Wanted lists have become. Who'd have thought: KP1 &
KP5 becoming nearly impossible, while you can work ZA and BY during any
contest?
--
Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com

Ham stuff for sale:
http://www.w9wi.com/articles/4sale.htm


Win February 9th 06 03:50 PM

3Y0X
 
It was sad to note that the Europeans have become as whiney and
outrageous an the North Americans. They may have even surpassed us
with their comments on the DX spots. The Russians were particularly
impatient.

Later in the evening the signals on 30 and 40 mts became quite good.
The operation on 30 meters went well, from this location. There were
a few UP Cops and the usual calls on frequency, but much less than I
expected.

Fourty meters was another story. Every lid and want-to-be came to the
show. It was interesting to note, though, that the signal got really
good about 0500 UTC, and much of the QRMing stopped. This leads me to
believe that most of the lids had to go to work the next day, or
passed out.

The heavy toned QRM on 40 meters last night is suspected to be from
some type of military operation in eastern Europe. I plotted all the
azimuths given on the spots last night, and it looks like this QRM was
coming from Nothern Russia. When it stopped around 0500 UTC, the 3YO
was as clear as a bell here.

The only other thing that I noted was that when the 3Y0 went to EU,
very few NA stations quit calling.

Win w0lz



Larry Gauthier \(K8UT\) February 10th 06 11:55 AM

3Y0X
 
I worked them on 15m SSB yesterday afternoon and the QSO does not show in
the on-line log. Wonder if I worked a slim?

Does anyone know their departure date?

--
-larry
K8UT
"Wes Stewart" wrote in message
...
High line noise here but worked him fairly easily on 20 meters.




J. Mc Laughlin February 10th 06 02:21 PM

3Y0X
 
The QRM on 40 CW was significant. A continuous carrier exactly on frequency
that was not too strong, but fatiguing. A very strong carrier that would
pop on at random. The latter caused me not to be sure of a contact at about
0200. I admit coming back two or three hours latter for a certain contact -
well, I never did hear the 3Y's call sign ...

I can not make sense out of the calling when 3Y was working. It could
be that many who do not work CW or do not have break-in called for a few
minutes and then listened to see if 3Y was waiting for them. Sure filled up
the band.

73 Mac N8TT

--
J. Mc Laughlin; Michigan U.S.A.
Home:
"Doug Smith W9WI" wrote in message
...
Ron wrote:
Are you sure this wasn't a lid ? I didn't think they were going to get
set up for about another 3 days.


On 17 they're peaking the right direction.

http://www.peterone.com/updates.htm says they're on the island and
expected to be on the air as of 0400 UTC today. (i.e. last night USA
time) There's no further news but I'm sure updating the website is
pretty low on their priority list right nowgrin!

On a very vaguely related subject...

I note in the last hour, three different 3Y calls have been spotted on
DX Summit... Either someone out there isn't paying attention, or there
are in fact a couple of "Slims" out there. To be honest I suspect the
former...
--
Doug Smith W9WI




Doug Smith W9WI February 10th 06 04:07 PM

3Y0X
 
J. Mc Laughlin wrote:
The QRM on 40 CW was significant. A continuous carrier exactly on frequency
that was not too strong, but fatiguing. A very strong carrier that would
pop on at random. The latter caused me not to be sure of a contact at about
0200. I admit coming back two or three hours latter for a certain contact -
well, I never did hear the 3Y's call sign ...

I can not make sense out of the calling when 3Y was working. It could
be that many who do not work CW or do not have break-in called for a few
minutes and then listened to see if 3Y was waiting for them. Sure filled up
the band.


I tried for a few minutes on 40 last night but because of the continuous
callers I couldn't figure out where he was listening - and with the
pileup at least 20KHz wide I sure didn't think blind calling was
worthwhile. (OTOH, it's pretty cold here this week & I could have used
the added heat from the ampgrin!) (yikes, you think maybe *THAT'S*
why people who can't copy the 3Y are calling him??g)

The intentional QRM was certainly a lot worse last night than it was
previously. I shudder to think what it sounds like on SSB.

The online log search is working this morning -- hopefully that means
the weather lifted & allowed the delivery of the rest of the supplies.
I suppose those on the island would consider the arrival of the rest of
their food to be the most important part of that news, but I suppose the
rest of us would consider the iminent arrival of the rest of their
simultaneous stations to be more importantgrin!

I've found in the past... that a major DXpedition is a good time to
find *other* good DX -- while all the big guns are busy with the 3Y,
some other stuff like FO/m goes begging...
--
Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com

Ham stuff for sale:
http://www.w9wi.com/articles/4sale.htm


J. Mc Laughlin February 11th 06 09:32 PM

3Y0X
 
Dear Doug: Interesting observations.

The intentional interference has been frequent and often effective - if that
is the right word. On various of their frequencies, the use of a continuous
carrier that is within 2 Hz of 3Y0X's frequency is heard. It appears not to
be from NA or SA. It would be interesting, though little more, to hear a
psychologist's analysis of what causes persons deliberately to cause
interference.

Miraculously, I heard 3Y0X on 8o meters CW last night and appear to have
worked them. I have gone over the propagation predictions again that
suggest the unlikelihood of such a contact. I will wait for the geophysical
parameters to be posed and look again. However, my guess is it was a
combination of about 100 Hz effective BW, exceptionally low noise at both
ends, a vertical reflecting off of salt water at their end, a tall antenna
at this end, and (most important of all) the use of CW. I also heard them
very weakly on 24900 about Noon.

The place with the worst propagation path from here is VU4.

Guys at Peter I have shown how to do it. Only criticism I have is that
they could profit from providing us with some idea of how long they will
work only (fill in the blank). To say EU for one hour and then Region 2
for an hour and then Region 3 for half an hour - or some such - would
benefit many.

73 Mac N8TT

--
J. Mc Laughlin; Michigan U.S.A.
Home:
"Doug Smith W9WI" wrote in message
...
J. Mc Laughlin wrote:
The QRM on 40 CW was significant. A continuous carrier exactly on

frequency
that was not too strong, but fatiguing. A very strong carrier that

would
pop on at random. The latter caused me not to be sure of a contact at

about
0200. I admit coming back two or three hours latter for a certain

contact -
well, I never did hear the 3Y's call sign ...

I can not make sense out of the calling when 3Y was working. It

could
be that many who do not work CW or do not have break-in called for a few
minutes and then listened to see if 3Y was waiting for them. Sure

filled up
the band.


I tried for a few minutes on 40 last night but because of the continuous
callers I couldn't figure out where he was listening - and with the
pileup at least 20KHz wide I sure didn't think blind calling was
worthwhile. (OTOH, it's pretty cold here this week & I could have used
the added heat from the ampgrin!) (yikes, you think maybe *THAT'S*
why people who can't copy the 3Y are calling him??g)

The intentional QRM was certainly a lot worse last night than it was
previously. I shudder to think what it sounds like on SSB.

The online log search is working this morning -- hopefully that means
the weather lifted & allowed the delivery of the rest of the supplies.
I suppose those on the island would consider the arrival of the rest of
their food to be the most important part of that news, but I suppose the
rest of us would consider the iminent arrival of the rest of their
simultaneous stations to be more importantgrin!

I've found in the past... that a major DXpedition is a good time to
find *other* good DX -- while all the big guns are busy with the 3Y,
some other stuff like FO/m goes begging...
--
Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com

Ham stuff for sale:
http://www.w9wi.com/articles/4sale.htm




Doug Smith W9WI February 11th 06 11:23 PM

3Y0X
 
J. Mc Laughlin wrote:
The intentional interference has been frequent and often effective - if that
is the right word. On various of their frequencies, the use of a continuous
carrier that is within 2 Hz of 3Y0X's frequency is heard. It appears not to
be from NA or SA. It would be interesting, though little more, to hear a
psychologist's analysis of what causes persons deliberately to cause
interference.


I landed another QSO on 15 CW this afternoon. Intentional QRM was
nearly non-existant and general behavior good but not perfect.

Miraculously, I heard 3Y0X on 8o meters CW last night and appear to have
worked them. I have gone over the propagation predictions again that
suggest the unlikelihood of such a contact. I will wait for the geophysical
parameters to be posed and look again. However, my guess is it was a
combination of about 100 Hz effective BW, exceptionally low noise at both
ends, a vertical reflecting off of salt water at their end, a tall antenna
at this end, and (most important of all) the use of CW. I also heard them
very weakly on 24900 about Noon.


I've learned not to put too horribly much credence in propagation
predictions on polar paths. Reality seems to have a way of trumping
theorygrin.

I also heard them weakly on 24900 about the same time - not strong
enough to work. It almost appeared they had better propagation to
California than they did to here. They were fair on 15 SSB at the same
time (and the pileup was surprisingly well-behaved) but they announced
an operator change before I could work them & the new op never showed
up. (unless he was the one who took them to CW!)

The place with the worst propagation path from here is VU4.


Agreed. (not sure where in 8-land you are but I'm probably not much
more than 1000km from your QTH) When the VU4 was on a bit over a year
ago, I heard them an entire once, and again not strong enough to work.
I hear there's going to be an Indian national amateur radio convention
on VU4 later this year & operations will be permitted. Hopefully
propagation will cooperate!

Guys at Peter I have shown how to do it. Only criticism I have is that
they could profit from providing us with some idea of how long they will
work only (fill in the blank). To say EU for one hour and then Region 2
for an hour and then Region 3 for half an hour - or some such - would
benefit many.


I might guess they figure that dynamically based on propagation & other
duties. But that's just a guess.
--
Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com

Ham stuff for sale:
http://www.w9wi.com/articles/4sale.htm


Dan/W4NTI February 12th 06 01:05 AM

3Y0X
 
Any chance you guys that have worked them or even heard them could put it on
here so the rest of the folks could stand a chance.

Seems every time I get on where there supposed to be the signals are poor to
say the least.

I am equiped with a TA-33SR on 20-10 with 500 W amp.

Can do 40 plus 30 and WARC with my Delta loop for 40 with L/L feed.

160 with a "U".

Dan/W4NTI



Shel February 12th 06 01:55 AM

3Y0X
 
Look at http://oh2aq.kolumbus.com/dxs/


[email protected] February 12th 06 02:22 AM

3Y0X
 
On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 01:05:20 GMT, "Dan/W4NTI"
wrote:

Any chance you guys that have worked them or even heard them could put it on
here so the rest of the folks could stand a chance.

Seems every time I get on where there supposed to be the signals are poor to
say the least.

I am equiped with a TA-33SR on 20-10 with 500 W amp.

Can do 40 plus 30 and WARC with my Delta loop for 40 with L/L feed.

160 with a "U".

Dan/W4NTI


ut I thought you wanted to workem the old fashioned way by listening
for them


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Dan/W4NTI February 12th 06 02:45 AM

3Y0X
 

"Shel" wrote in message
...
Look at http://oh2aq.kolumbus.com/dxs/


Thanks, will do.

And to all those guys calling CQNA on top of Peter II on 7023
tonight.....WHAT A BUNCH OF LIDS.

Have a good evening.

Dan/W4NTI



Win February 12th 06 02:50 PM

3Y0X
 
On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 01:05:20 GMT, "Dan/W4NTI"
wrote:

Any chance you guys that have worked them or even heard them could put it on
here so the rest of the folks could stand a chance.

Seems every time I get on where there supposed to be the signals are poor to
say the least.

I am equiped with a TA-33SR on 20-10 with 500 W amp.

Can do 40 plus 30 and WARC with my Delta loop for 40 with L/L feed.

160 with a "U".

Dan/W4NTI


You just about have to work a weak signal to work him. They are
running veticals on 30 and 40, wire on 80, and steppers on 10, 15, and
20. last night (Saturday) the pile was as wide as the band, for the
most part. But he was about 559 on 30, 40, and 80 cw for about 5
house each. With that many people calling him, it is pot luck anyway.

I managed to work him on 30 Mtrs at 0639 last night. That seemed to
be the best band because there was fewe lids and less QRM on his
frequency. Bu,t I really need him on 40 or 80 for five band.

I will be there again tonight.

Win

Doug Smith W9WI February 12th 06 04:16 PM

3Y0X
 
Dan/W4NTI wrote:
Any chance you guys that have worked them or even heard them could put it on
here so the rest of the folks could stand a chance.

Seems every time I get on where there supposed to be the signals are poor to
say the least.


They've been plenty loud on 30m (I forget where - 10103?) and 40m (7023)
fairly often. Just keep a watch on those frequencies. Unfortunately
the pileup behavior has also been worst on those frequencies.

They were a lot weaker (but still well within the capability of your
station) on 15 and 17m, where the piles were a lot better-behaved.
21023 may be worth staking out.

I heard them here on 12 meters but nowhere near well enough to work.
--
Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com

Ham stuff for sale:
http://www.w9wi.com/articles/4sale.htm


Doug Smith W9WI February 12th 06 08:51 PM

3Y0X
 
Win wrote:
Well, I have to say, Doug, that's hardly surprising when the
DXpedition is listening in a QSX band 25 kHz wide! In fact, their SSB
station was announcing that it was "listening 7205 to 7250". What
chance does that give to other band users?

73 de G3NYY



It's no different than when the contesters take over the bands, Walt.
And, it doesn't happen nearly as often. The 3y0 is one of the bigger
fish in DX circles. It's not every day that 2000,000 hams are on the
air.


'Course the contest activity also reflects the desires of the majority
of those who are on at the time...

Neither the contesters as a group, nor the DXers as a group, are guilty
of anything here. The guilt lies with those unable to behave decently
while participating in either pursuit.

(I would suggest that the wide spread of the QSX band would not be a
problem if the callers would actually *LISTEN* before picking a TX
frequency; indeed, a wider QSX band would *reduce* the chances someone
would feel the need to transmit near, or atop, an existing QSO.

It also increases the chances of a lower-powered station finding a hole
in the QSX band and actually being heard.)
--
Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com

Ham stuff for sale:
http://www.w9wi.com/articles/4sale.htm


Charlie February 12th 06 09:58 PM

3Y0X
 
Is ALL you do is ****, moan, bitch, cry, complain, bellyache and whine about
Ham Radio?

Have you considered stamp collecting? Geeez Louise.......
Give it a f__king rest - OK pal???
--

Charlie-


"Doug Smith W9WI" wrote in message
...
Win wrote:
Well, I have to say, Doug, that's hardly surprising when the
DXpedition is listening in a QSX band 25 kHz wide! In fact, their SSB
station was announcing that it was "listening 7205 to 7250". What
chance does that give to other band users?

73 de G3NYY



It's no different than when the contesters take over the bands, Walt.
And, it doesn't happen nearly as often. The 3y0 is one of the bigger
fish in DX circles. It's not every day that 2000,000 hams are on the
air.


'Course the contest activity also reflects the desires of the majority of
those who are on at the time...

Neither the contesters as a group, nor the DXers as a group, are guilty of
anything here. The guilt lies with those unable to behave decently while
participating in either pursuit.

(I would suggest that the wide spread of the QSX band would not be a
problem if the callers would actually *LISTEN* before picking a TX
frequency; indeed, a wider QSX band would *reduce* the chances someone
would feel the need to transmit near, or atop, an existing QSO.

It also increases the chances of a lower-powered station finding a hole in
the QSX band and actually being heard.)
--
Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com

Ham stuff for sale:
http://www.w9wi.com/articles/4sale.htm




Doug Smith W9WI February 12th 06 10:22 PM

3Y0X
 
FWIW, the count of different calls with which 3Y0X has been spotted on
DX Summit is now up to at least five, not counting 3Y0X...

Got 'em on 20CW about an hour ago.

Lucked out. Heard the op send not just "UP" but "UP 2" -- it so happens
my rig is set up such that if I hit SPLIT it automatically sets up a
2KHz split. Punched it once to clear the "wrong" split, again to get it
on +2, hit the paddles -- and worked 'em on the second call.

Sometimes you just get luckygrin!
--
Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com

Ham stuff for sale:
http://www.w9wi.com/articles/4sale.htm


J. Mc Laughlin February 12th 06 10:55 PM

3Y0X
 
Dear Doug: Something much like that happened to me. While trying to
contact them on 15 CW (where they were just weak) I punched in the 24 MHz
SSB frequency (where they were too weak to work in a pileup) only to hear an
announcement (by the operator) of the frequency where the operator was going
to listen. It would have been futile to have tried in a pile up. I gave
him a 34 (or some such) and he replied that I was a "true" 59. Hard to
explain.

73 Mac N8TT

--
J. Mc Laughlin; Michigan U.S.A.
Home:
"Doug Smith W9WI" wrote in message
...
FWIW, the count of different calls with which 3Y0X has been spotted on
DX Summit is now up to at least five, not counting 3Y0X...

Got 'em on 20CW about an hour ago.

Lucked out. Heard the op send not just "UP" but "UP 2" -- it so happens
my rig is set up such that if I hit SPLIT it automatically sets up a
2KHz split. Punched it once to clear the "wrong" split, again to get it
on +2, hit the paddles -- and worked 'em on the second call.

Sometimes you just get luckygrin!
--
Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com

Ham stuff for sale:
http://www.w9wi.com/articles/4sale.htm




J. Mc Laughlin February 12th 06 11:28 PM

3Y0X
 
Dear Doug: please see comment below...

--
J. Mc Laughlin; Michigan U.S.A.
Home:
"Doug Smith W9WI" wrote in message
...
J. Mc Laughlin wrote:



snip

The place with the worst propagation path from here is VU4.


Agreed. (not sure where in 8-land you are but I'm probably not much
more than 1000km from your QTH) When the VU4 was on a bit over a year
ago, I heard them an entire once, and again not strong enough to work.
I hear there's going to be an Indian national amateur radio convention
on VU4 later this year & operations will be permitted. Hopefully
propagation will cooperate!

I am located well out in the country in the Lower Peninsula of Michigan. (A
troll because I am below The Bridge.) The nearest large city is Flint.

I had the same experience with the last VU4 group (December 2004). I heard
them well enough to be almost certain of call signs about twice for a few
tens of seconds. I have a quiet location - well, most of the time, P-noise
can be a major problem - and one can take to the bank that they (VU4) were
weak.
I was invited to give a paper in April, but I am not in shape to do such
a thing in person. Several other members of my department are also radio
amateurs, but they too are not able to go. In this modern age, I will
present electronically. We all hope that those who attend with licenses and
antennas will be effective with the path our way right through the magnetic
pole. Have you heard of a group with a track-record that proposes to
attend?

73 Mac N8TT

snip
--
Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com




Amos Keag February 12th 06 11:51 PM

3Y0X
 
Doug Smith W9WI wrote:

Win wrote:

Well, I have to say, Doug, that's hardly surprising when the
DXpedition is listening in a QSX band 25 kHz wide! In fact, their SSB
station was announcing that it was "listening 7205 to 7250". What
chance does that give to other band users?

73 de G3NYY


Gee, 45 KHz to accomplish what could be done in 2 to 3 KHz on CW.


Doug Smith W9WI February 13th 06 01:10 AM

3Y0X
 
J. Mc Laughlin wrote:
I am located well out in the country in the Lower Peninsula of Michigan. (A
troll because I am below The Bridge.) The nearest large city is Flint.


OK, about as far away as you can be in 8-land without being a
Yoopergrin! I was invited to give a paper in April, but I am
not in shape to do such
a thing in person. Several other members of my department are also radio
amateurs, but they too are not able to go. In this modern age, I will
present electronically. We all hope that those who attend with

licenses and
antennas will be effective with the path our way right through the

magnetic


I had the same experience with the last VU4 group (December 2004). I heard
them well enough to be almost certain of call signs about twice for a few
tens of seconds. I have a quiet location - well, most of the time, P-noise
can be a major problem - and one can take to the bank that they (VU4) were
weak.


Yep. My QTH is also usually quite quiet, so a signal has to be awfully
weak to be weaker than the noisegrin!

pole. Have you heard of a group with a track-record that proposes to
attend?


I've not. It is, however, still early & there's time for things to change!

--
Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com

Ham stuff for sale:
http://www.w9wi.com/articles/4sale.htm


Barry February 13th 06 01:38 AM

3Y0X
 
On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 16:13:25 GMT, Doug Smith W9WI
wrote:


(and while it's scant consolation, note that the ops who CQ w/o
listening are NOT the ones who end up in the Top 10 box when it's all
over...)


Sorry to burst your bubble, Doug, but I did hear some top ten guys
CQing on or very close to the 3Y.
73,
Barry W2UP
--
Note - Remove the X from my e-mail address for direct replies

Hank Oredson February 13th 06 02:14 AM

3Y0X
 
"Doug Smith W9WI" wrote in message
...
Dan/W4NTI wrote:
Any chance you guys that have worked them or even heard them could put it
on here so the rest of the folks could stand a chance.

Seems every time I get on where there supposed to be the signals are poor
to say the least.


They've been plenty loud on 30m (I forget where - 10103?) and 40m (7023)
fairly often. Just keep a watch on those frequencies. Unfortunately the
pileup behavior has also been worst on those frequencies.

They were a lot weaker (but still well within the capability of your
station) on 15 and 17m, where the piles were a lot better-behaved. 21023
may be worth staking out.

I heard them here on 12 meters but nowhere near well enough to work.



17 has been the easy band from out here in the NW.

In fact, they were calling CQ on 18.143 a bit ago,
with no takers and a good signal

--

... Hank

http://home.earthlink.net/~horedson
http://home.earthlink.net/~w0rli



Peter Lemken February 13th 06 03:43 AM

3Y0X
 
Doug Smith W9WI wrote:
J. Mc Laughlin wrote:

pole. Have you heard of a group with a track-record that proposes to
attend?


I've not. It is, however, still early & there's time for things to change!


http://www.dl7df.com/


Peter Lemken
DF5JT
Berlin

--
Paul Lincke ist dem Zille sein Milhaud.

(Harry Rowohlt)

Charlie February 13th 06 06:16 AM

3Y0X
 
Has yours?

--

Charlie-AD5TH
www.deepsouthnet.net


"Walt Davidson" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 12 Feb 2006 15:58:38 -0600, "Charlie" wrote:

Is ALL you do is ****, moan, bitch, cry, complain, bellyache and whine
about
Ham Radio?

Have you considered stamp collecting? Geeez Louise.......
Give it a f__king rest - OK pal???


Has your tower fallen down yet, Charlie?
;-)

73 de G3NYY

--
Walt Davidson Email: g3nyy @despammed.com




J. Mc Laughlin February 14th 06 01:54 AM

3Y0X
 
Dear Peter and Doug:

Thanks for the notes.

I expect a few more people will go to VU4. All it takes is a group that
knows what it is doing and some propagation. With a group from Europe and
(so I have heard) a group from NA, each area should get a shot at a contact.
I hope that the duration of the licenses is greater than two or three days.

73 Mac N8TT

--
J. Mc Laughlin; Michigan U.S.A.
Home:
"Peter Lemken" wrote in message
...
Doug Smith W9WI wrote:
J. Mc Laughlin wrote:

pole. Have you heard of a group with a track-record that proposes to
attend?


I've not. It is, however, still early & there's time for things to

change!

http://www.dl7df.com/


Peter Lemken
DF5JT
Berlin




Win February 14th 06 08:46 PM

3Y0X
 
Thank God! The new log has all the lost contacts.

Happy days.

Win, w0lz



Derek Wills February 14th 06 09:39 PM

3Y0X
 
Thank God! The new log has all the lost contacts.

It's Iridium and the ops you need to thank.
I don't think God puts Peter I very high on
her list of priorities right now.

Derek
aa5bt

Doug Smith W9WI February 15th 06 02:01 PM

3Y0X
 
Last night was a good night.

Managed to land 'em on 80 & 40 CW, and then on 40 SSB for my first phone
QSO with the island.

The pileups were a lot better-behaved in all three places. (40CW had
been a madhouse most of the week) On 80 it was nearly perfect.
Apparently most of the lids:

- were asleep
- were jamming somewhere else (30m?)
- finally managed to burn out their finals (we can only hope)
- were too busy participating in the Disease Discussion Net
- thought the station calling CQ on 3523 was K3YO & not worth messing with

I see there's some RTTY activity showing up - maybe???

(a few folks reported 'em on 10 meters late yesterday morning but not
even a hint here.

ARRL.org reports the guy on the Space Station worked them - on 2 meters...)
--
Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com

Ham stuff for sale:
http://www.w9wi.com/articles/4sale.htm


Dan/W4NTI February 16th 06 01:21 AM

3Y0X
 

"Doug Smith W9WI" wrote in message
...
Last night was a good night.

Managed to land 'em on 80 & 40 CW, and then on 40 SSB for my first phone
QSO with the island.

The pileups were a lot better-behaved in all three places. (40CW had been
a madhouse most of the week) On 80 it was nearly perfect. Apparently most
of the lids:

- were asleep
- were jamming somewhere else (30m?)
- finally managed to burn out their finals (we can only hope)
- were too busy participating in the Disease Discussion Net
- thought the station calling CQ on 3523 was K3YO & not worth messing with

I see there's some RTTY activity showing up - maybe???

(a few folks reported 'em on 10 meters late yesterday morning but not even
a hint here.

ARRL.org reports the guy on the Space Station worked them - on 2
meters...)
--
Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com

Ham stuff for sale:
http://www.w9wi.com/articles/4sale.htm


Conditions are much better today to 3Y0 land. Just went to listen on 14.023
and there they were. Put in the second VFO and found who he was in QSO
with. Made exactly 1 call. He came right back. That's with 500w to Mosley
3 element.

Dan/W4NTI



Doug Smith W9WI February 16th 06 07:00 AM

3Y0X
 
Dan/W4NTI wrote:
Conditions are much better today to 3Y0 land. Just went to listen on 14.023
and there they were. Put in the second VFO and found who he was in QSO
with. Made exactly 1 call. He came right back. That's with 500w to Mosley
3 element.


Congrats!

I managed a RTTY QSO on 15 a few minutes after making that post; went
out for a bike ride, and when I got back caught 'em on 12m CW and SSB
and on 10m SSB. (they were spotted on 10 CW at the time as well, but
not even a hint here on CW.)
--
Doug Smith W9WI
Pleasant View (Nashville), TN EM66
http://www.w9wi.com

Ham stuff for sale:
http://www.w9wi.com/articles/4sale.htm


Wes Stewart February 16th 06 04:11 PM

3Y0X
 
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 01:21:09 GMT, "Dan/W4NTI"
wrote:

[snip]

Conditions are much better today to 3Y0 land. Just went to listen on 14.023
and there they were. Put in the second VFO and found who he was in QSO
with. Made exactly 1 call. He came right back. That's with 500w to Mosley
3 element.


Same here. One call.

Forty was an entirely different can of worms. What an embarrassment.
A pack of untrained chimpanzees would have been better operators;
although I'm damning chimpanzees with faint praise.

Peter Lemken February 16th 06 05:10 PM

3Y0X
 
Wes Stewart wrote:

Forty was an entirely different can of worms. What an embarrassment.
A pack of untrained chimpanzees would have been better operators;
although I'm damning chimpanzees with faint praise.


The embarassing thing about the operator on 40 is the fact that the team has
been made aware of the less than stellar performance on that band and
obviously decided not to do anything about it.

Peter Lemken
DF5JT
Berlin

--
Paul Lincke ist dem Zille sein Milhaud.

(Harry Rowohlt)

Win February 16th 06 05:26 PM

3Y0X
 
I thought the 40 Op did much better last night. His rate was up and
he stayed on frequency. And , realy, it's there show. We have no
right to tell them how to run it.

And we have no idea what the conditions are at his location. Many of
the artic ops tell me the QRN is extremely high on some bands. We
just don't know.

I finally did work him on 40 last night after three days of trying.

Win, w0lz


On 16 Feb 2006 17:10:43 GMT, (Peter Lemken)
wrote:

Wes Stewart wrote:

Forty was an entirely different can of worms. What an embarrassment.
A pack of untrained chimpanzees would have been better operators;
although I'm damning chimpanzees with faint praise.


The embarassing thing about the operator on 40 is the fact that the team has
been made aware of the less than stellar performance on that band and
obviously decided not to do anything about it.

Peter Lemken
DF5JT
Berlin



Wes Stewart February 16th 06 06:00 PM

3Y0X
 
On 16 Feb 2006 17:10:43 GMT, (Peter Lemken)
wrote:

Wes Stewart wrote:

Forty was an entirely different can of worms. What an embarrassment.
A pack of untrained chimpanzees would have been better operators;
although I'm damning chimpanzees with faint praise.


The embarassing thing about the operator on 40 is the fact that the team has
been made aware of the less than stellar performance on that band and
obviously decided not to do anything about it.


I wasn't commenting on the op at 3Y, I was talking about the idiots
calling him. Most of the time there were so many fools calling on his
TX freq that I couldn't tell what kind of op -he- was.

I think the DX should listen on their TX freq from time to time. If
they hear things like last night they should just QSY up 50 or so and
leave the idiots behind. The DXers who actually tune the band will
find and work him in the clear, until of course, one of them makes the
mistake of spotting him, then it's time to QSY again.


Win February 16th 06 06:50 PM

3Y0X
 
On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 11:00:47 -0700, Wes Stewart
wrote:

On 16 Feb 2006 17:10:43 GMT, (Peter Lemken)
wrote:

Wes Stewart wrote:

Forty was an entirely different can of worms. What an embarrassment.
A pack of untrained chimpanzees would have been better operators;
although I'm damning chimpanzees with faint praise.


The embarassing thing about the operator on 40 is the fact that the team has
been made aware of the less than stellar performance on that band and
obviously decided not to do anything about it.


I wasn't commenting on the op at 3Y, I was talking about the idiots
calling him. Most of the time there were so many fools calling on his
TX freq that I couldn't tell what kind of op -he- was.

I think the DX should listen on their TX freq from time to time. If
they hear things like last night they should just QSY up 50 or so and
leave the idiots behind. The DXers who actually tune the band will
find and work him in the clear, until of course, one of them makes the
mistake of spotting him, then it's time to QSY again.


I agree, Wes. I wasn't commenting on your post as much a Peter's.
But, I know where Peter is coming from, too.

Actually, last night, I could not hear most of the NA stations. IT
made it hard to find who he was working, but nice, as I could not hear
the lids.

All in all, I think it has been a great operation. I have not been to
bed before 3:00 AM yet. My fist is sore from calling, and I enjoy
every minute of it.

Win, w0lz.



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