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Harry George August 15th 03 02:37 PM

what is a relay in a pileup?
 
Newbie question: This morning on 20m I was listening to a pileup for a
mobile in Minnesota who was 33 from my G5RV near Seattle. I could
hear some of the callers but not many. Suddenly a very strong signal
came on offering to relay for the mobile (I think). It was very rapid
fire for quite a while, and then the strong signal bowed out and
someone thanked him for the help.

It was all happening to fast for me to follow. What was I hearing?

KD7VEY

Steven R. Adell - KF2TI August 15th 03 04:32 PM

In article , says...
Newbie question: This morning on 20m I was listening to a pileup for a
mobile in Minnesota who was 33 from my G5RV near Seattle. I could
hear some of the callers but not many. Suddenly a very strong signal
came on offering to relay for the mobile (I think). It was very rapid
fire for quite a while, and then the strong signal bowed out and
someone thanked him for the help.

It was all happening to fast for me to follow. What was I hearing?

KD7VEY

Chances are, there were many stations trying to get through to the
mobile without success and this fella offered to act as net control
(let's not start this thread again..dead horse yada yada yada)for the
mobile station. SInce this other fella could probably hear the stations
trying to contact the mobile, he's offering to relay the callers call-
signs to the mobile, who then work the mobile and this fella offers up
the next callsign he hears

Different schools of thought on this topic/subject

HAve a nice week-end

Steven R. Adell - KF2TI August 15th 03 04:32 PM

In article , says...
Newbie question: This morning on 20m I was listening to a pileup for a
mobile in Minnesota who was 33 from my G5RV near Seattle. I could
hear some of the callers but not many. Suddenly a very strong signal
came on offering to relay for the mobile (I think). It was very rapid
fire for quite a while, and then the strong signal bowed out and
someone thanked him for the help.

It was all happening to fast for me to follow. What was I hearing?

KD7VEY

Chances are, there were many stations trying to get through to the
mobile without success and this fella offered to act as net control
(let's not start this thread again..dead horse yada yada yada)for the
mobile station. SInce this other fella could probably hear the stations
trying to contact the mobile, he's offering to relay the callers call-
signs to the mobile, who then work the mobile and this fella offers up
the next callsign he hears

Different schools of thought on this topic/subject

HAve a nice week-end

Harry George August 15th 03 07:37 PM

Steven R. Adell - KF2TI writes:

In article , says...
Newbie question: This morning on 20m I was listening to a pileup for a
mobile in Minnesota who was 33 from my G5RV near Seattle. I could
hear some of the callers but not many. Suddenly a very strong signal
came on offering to relay for the mobile (I think). It was very rapid
fire for quite a while, and then the strong signal bowed out and
someone thanked him for the help.

It was all happening to fast for me to follow. What was I hearing?

KD7VEY

Chances are, there were many stations trying to get through to the
mobile without success and this fella offered to act as net control
(let's not start this thread again..dead horse yada yada yada)for the
mobile station. SInce this other fella could probably hear the stations
trying to contact the mobile, he's offering to relay the callers call-
signs to the mobile, who then work the mobile and this fella offers up
the next callsign he hears

Different schools of thought on this topic/subject

HAve a nice week-end


An email response asked if it was 14.336 and said this was a "Mobile
Emergency and County Hunters Net." It was in fact that frequency, so
that's what I was hearing. That also explains why evryone was
mentioning counties.

BTW, after posting the question, I realized Seattle to Minnesota is a
long way but not officially DX. What would be the right group to ask
this question?







Harry George August 15th 03 07:37 PM

Steven R. Adell - KF2TI writes:

In article , says...
Newbie question: This morning on 20m I was listening to a pileup for a
mobile in Minnesota who was 33 from my G5RV near Seattle. I could
hear some of the callers but not many. Suddenly a very strong signal
came on offering to relay for the mobile (I think). It was very rapid
fire for quite a while, and then the strong signal bowed out and
someone thanked him for the help.

It was all happening to fast for me to follow. What was I hearing?

KD7VEY

Chances are, there were many stations trying to get through to the
mobile without success and this fella offered to act as net control
(let's not start this thread again..dead horse yada yada yada)for the
mobile station. SInce this other fella could probably hear the stations
trying to contact the mobile, he's offering to relay the callers call-
signs to the mobile, who then work the mobile and this fella offers up
the next callsign he hears

Different schools of thought on this topic/subject

HAve a nice week-end


An email response asked if it was 14.336 and said this was a "Mobile
Emergency and County Hunters Net." It was in fact that frequency, so
that's what I was hearing. That also explains why evryone was
mentioning counties.

BTW, after posting the question, I realized Seattle to Minnesota is a
long way but not officially DX. What would be the right group to ask
this question?







Dave Shrader August 15th 03 08:31 PM

In addition to the other responses there is another possibility.

If you were listening to one of the nets; Intercon, Maritime Mobile,
etc. it was likely a station offering assistance to net control so that
the net control could recognize or honor the mobile station's request.

A Minnesota station would not be normal 'DX' but may have been operating
from an Island or Lighthouse or Museum Ship etc. In this situation I
would not honor an assisted QSO. [Note to the DX purists: I have worked
DX on the DX nets but never QSL'd an assisted contact].

Deacon Dave, W1MCE

Harry George wrote:
Newbie question: This morning on 20m I was listening to a pileup for a
mobile in Minnesota who was 33 from my G5RV near Seattle. I could
hear some of the callers but not many. Suddenly a very strong signal
came on offering to relay for the mobile (I think). It was very rapid
fire for quite a while, and then the strong signal bowed out and
someone thanked him for the help.

It was all happening to fast for me to follow. What was I hearing?

KD7VEY



Dave Shrader August 15th 03 08:31 PM

In addition to the other responses there is another possibility.

If you were listening to one of the nets; Intercon, Maritime Mobile,
etc. it was likely a station offering assistance to net control so that
the net control could recognize or honor the mobile station's request.

A Minnesota station would not be normal 'DX' but may have been operating
from an Island or Lighthouse or Museum Ship etc. In this situation I
would not honor an assisted QSO. [Note to the DX purists: I have worked
DX on the DX nets but never QSL'd an assisted contact].

Deacon Dave, W1MCE

Harry George wrote:
Newbie question: This morning on 20m I was listening to a pileup for a
mobile in Minnesota who was 33 from my G5RV near Seattle. I could
hear some of the callers but not many. Suddenly a very strong signal
came on offering to relay for the mobile (I think). It was very rapid
fire for quite a while, and then the strong signal bowed out and
someone thanked him for the help.

It was all happening to fast for me to follow. What was I hearing?

KD7VEY



John Passaneau August 15th 03 09:06 PM

I would work him and then feel soiled later. DX is DX no mater how you work
them.


--
John Passaneau W3JXP
State College, Pa



"Keyboard In The Wilderness" wrote in message
news:TW7%a.4062$S_.544@fed1read01...
This sort of thing happens when the DX station can not pick out the

mobiles,
QRP and weak stations on their own.
Or the DX station is not very good at working a pileup or does not speak
English very well.
So a well meaning strong station acts to relay callsigns to the DX.
Or more often takes a list and acts as net control.
Either way it is an assisted QSO and true blue DXers frown on this

practice
as well as any DX net.

Stated differently when you join the DX club, don't tell em you work the

DX
nets or lists.

However assisted QSOs, nets, lists, don't show up on QSL cards, so counts
for DXCC.

Back to the true blue DXers -- wonder if a P5 came on a DX Net or list,

how
true and blue would they be ???

On the other hand, it is your station, your DX style, so do what you want.




John Passaneau August 15th 03 09:06 PM

I would work him and then feel soiled later. DX is DX no mater how you work
them.


--
John Passaneau W3JXP
State College, Pa



"Keyboard In The Wilderness" wrote in message
news:TW7%a.4062$S_.544@fed1read01...
This sort of thing happens when the DX station can not pick out the

mobiles,
QRP and weak stations on their own.
Or the DX station is not very good at working a pileup or does not speak
English very well.
So a well meaning strong station acts to relay callsigns to the DX.
Or more often takes a list and acts as net control.
Either way it is an assisted QSO and true blue DXers frown on this

practice
as well as any DX net.

Stated differently when you join the DX club, don't tell em you work the

DX
nets or lists.

However assisted QSOs, nets, lists, don't show up on QSL cards, so counts
for DXCC.

Back to the true blue DXers -- wonder if a P5 came on a DX Net or list,

how
true and blue would they be ???

On the other hand, it is your station, your DX style, so do what you want.




Keyboard In The Wilderness August 15th 03 10:52 PM

This is a good place -- as many DXers work a variety of things, counties,
10-10, IOTA, WAS, lighthouses, etc.

I'm working on my WAS -- not states but Worked all Streets.

BTW, after posting the question, I realized Seattle to Minnesota is a
long way but not officially DX. What would be the right group to ask
this question?

Someone mentioned being "soiled" by working nets or a list.
Hey work what you want how you want. just mums the word at the DX club --
some get livid.





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