"Dave, AA6YQ" said :

Have you tried DXLab, Peter?

I did try it out a few months back and I just didn't like the
interface. I didn't really put it through its paces - I just played
with it for a day or two. It certainly does sound fully-featured and
I like the integrated QSL/label feature and support for MMTTY, etc.
Frankly, though, I prefer menu-based apps.

I will likely stay with DX Base, though I may be able to recommend
DXLab if I really sit down and see what it can do.

Perhaps I'll DL the most recent version and have another go in the
next few days, since there sure as heck doesn't seem to be *any*
propagation in these parts lately. Personally, I think 3B9C used up
all the DX molecules in the ionosphere over the US northeast and we
have to wait for the next delivery. Hopefully that will happen before
T33C and ZS8 are over!



73 de Peter, W2IRT
(ex-AB2NZ, VE3THX)

Please reply to Double-you Two Eye Are Tee at Arrl.net

Re "Frankly, though, I prefer menu-based apps" - well, to each his own, but
menu-based apps require users to learn the menu system. Graphical user
interfaces do consume more screenspace, but they are far more intuitive --
especially when letting the mouse hover over any control produces a popup
that describe that control's usage.

73,

Dave, AA6YQ


"Peter Dougherty" wrote in message
...
"Dave, AA6YQ" said :

Have you tried DXLab, Peter?

I did try it out a few months back and I just didn't like the
interface. I didn't really put it through its paces - I just played
with it for a day or two. It certainly does sound fully-featured and
I like the integrated QSL/label feature and support for MMTTY, etc.
Frankly, though, I prefer menu-based apps.

I will likely stay with DX Base, though I may be able to recommend
DXLab if I really sit down and see what it can do.

Perhaps I'll DL the most recent version and have another go in the
next few days, since there sure as heck doesn't seem to be *any*
propagation in these parts lately. Personally, I think 3B9C used up
all the DX molecules in the ionosphere over the US northeast and we
have to wait for the next delivery. Hopefully that will happen before
T33C and ZS8 are over!



73 de Peter, W2IRT
(ex-AB2NZ, VE3THX)

Please reply to Double-you Two Eye Are Tee at Arrl.net

Re "Frankly, though, I prefer menu-based apps" - well, to each his own, but
menu-based apps require users to learn the menu system. Graphical user
interfaces do consume more screenspace, but they are far more intuitive --
especially when letting the mouse hover over any control produces a popup
that describe that control's usage.

73,

Dave, AA6YQ


"Peter Dougherty" wrote in message
...
"Dave, AA6YQ" said :

Have you tried DXLab, Peter?

I did try it out a few months back and I just didn't like the
interface. I didn't really put it through its paces - I just played
with it for a day or two. It certainly does sound fully-featured and
I like the integrated QSL/label feature and support for MMTTY, etc.
Frankly, though, I prefer menu-based apps.

I will likely stay with DX Base, though I may be able to recommend
DXLab if I really sit down and see what it can do.

Perhaps I'll DL the most recent version and have another go in the
next few days, since there sure as heck doesn't seem to be *any*
propagation in these parts lately. Personally, I think 3B9C used up
all the DX molecules in the ionosphere over the US northeast and we
have to wait for the next delivery. Hopefully that will happen before
T33C and ZS8 are over!



73 de Peter, W2IRT
(ex-AB2NZ, VE3THX)

Please reply to Double-you Two Eye Are Tee at Arrl.net

Dave, AA6YQ wrote:
Re "Frankly, though, I prefer menu-based apps" - well, to each his own, but
menu-based apps require users to learn the menu system. Graphical user
interfaces do consume more screenspace, but they are far more intuitive --
especially when letting the mouse hover over any control produces a popup
that describe that control's usage.

And in the end you have "Word"-like software. Granted, letters produced
by "Word" look like crap, but the UI is very intuitive.


Peter Lemken
DF5JT
Berlin

--
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in
a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly
used up, totally worn out and loudly proclaiming, 'Wow, what a ride!'

Dave, AA6YQ wrote:
Re "Frankly, though, I prefer menu-based apps" - well, to each his own, but
menu-based apps require users to learn the menu system. Graphical user
interfaces do consume more screenspace, but they are far more intuitive --
especially when letting the mouse hover over any control produces a popup
that describe that control's usage.

And in the end you have "Word"-like software. Granted, letters produced
by "Word" look like crap, but the UI is very intuitive.


Peter Lemken
DF5JT
Berlin

--
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in
a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly
used up, totally worn out and loudly proclaiming, 'Wow, what a ride!'

Thanks to all for spending so much time giving opinions and opposing
viewpoints. One other question. Is it feasible to use different programs
to access the same database? (Format question). That way, maybe I could try
a few different programs to see what works best for me without having to
fat-finger from one log to another. Maybe import/export options would be a
good way to do this.
I'm still using my old IC-730 and dipole, so, I don't have the need for
receiver control/rotor control. I probably will someday, though. Will most
programs let me import my log?
o_o_o_o
Best Regards, /| ,[_____],
Jim, WP3JQ |¯¯¯L --O|||||||O-
()_)¯()_) ¯¯¯¯¯ )_)
EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W
"Peter Lemken" wrote in message
...
Dave, AA6YQ wrote:
Re "Frankly, though, I prefer menu-based apps" - well, to each his own,
but
menu-based apps require users to learn the menu system. Graphical user
interfaces do consume more screenspace, but they are far more
intuitive --
especially when letting the mouse hover over any control produces a
popup
that describe that control's usage.

And in the end you have "Word"-like software. Granted, letters produced
by "Word" look like crap, but the UI is very intuitive.


Peter Lemken
DF5JT
Berlin

Thanks to all for spending so much time giving opinions and opposing
viewpoints. One other question. Is it feasible to use different programs
to access the same database? (Format question). That way, maybe I could try
a few different programs to see what works best for me without having to
fat-finger from one log to another. Maybe import/export options would be a
good way to do this.
I'm still using my old IC-730 and dipole, so, I don't have the need for
receiver control/rotor control. I probably will someday, though. Will most
programs let me import my log?
o_o_o_o
Best Regards, /| ,[_____],
Jim, WP3JQ |¯¯¯L --O|||||||O-
()_)¯()_) ¯¯¯¯¯ )_)
EM60qk 30.447439N 086.628959W
"Peter Lemken" wrote in message
...
Dave, AA6YQ wrote:
Re "Frankly, though, I prefer menu-based apps" - well, to each his own,
but
menu-based apps require users to learn the menu system. Graphical user
interfaces do consume more screenspace, but they are far more
intuitive --
especially when letting the mouse hover over any control produces a
popup
that describe that control's usage.

And in the end you have "Word"-like software. Granted, letters produced
by "Word" look like crap, but the UI is very intuitive.


Peter Lemken
DF5JT
Berlin

"Drink" wrote in message
...
Thanks to all for spending so much time giving opinions and opposing
viewpoints. One other question. Is it feasible to use different programs
to access the same database? (Format question). That way, maybe I could
try
a few different programs to see what works best for me without having to
fat-finger from one log to another. Maybe import/export options would be
a
good way to do this.
I'm still using my old IC-730 and dipole, so, I don't have the need for
receiver control/rotor control. I probably will someday, though. Will
most
programs let me import my log?

Well most programs use different ways of storing the data so they cannot
directly read each other's datafiles. However so long as they support ADIF
export and import you can move data from program to program. Hopefully your
current software will let you export in ADIF.

I would recommend downloading the programs and playing with them for a while
with dummy data. After picking the one you like, then move your data.

My personal favorites a

General logging: N3FJP's ACLog - I like the user interface better than any
I have seen and it does a good job of allowing you to track information for
awards.

Contest logging:
N3FJP for those contests he has programmed. For the state QSO parties, I
really like the maps that show the counties worked besides the standard type
list.
N1MM for contests I can't find in the N3FJP group.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

"Drink" wrote in message
...
Thanks to all for spending so much time giving opinions and opposing
viewpoints. One other question. Is it feasible to use different programs
to access the same database? (Format question). That way, maybe I could
try
a few different programs to see what works best for me without having to
fat-finger from one log to another. Maybe import/export options would be
a
good way to do this.
I'm still using my old IC-730 and dipole, so, I don't have the need for
receiver control/rotor control. I probably will someday, though. Will
most
programs let me import my log?

Well most programs use different ways of storing the data so they cannot
directly read each other's datafiles. However so long as they support ADIF
export and import you can move data from program to program. Hopefully your
current software will let you export in ADIF.

I would recommend downloading the programs and playing with them for a while
with dummy data. After picking the one you like, then move your data.

My personal favorites a

General logging: N3FJP's ACLog - I like the user interface better than any
I have seen and it does a good job of allowing you to track information for
awards.

Contest logging:
N3FJP for those contests he has programmed. For the state QSO parties, I
really like the maps that show the counties worked besides the standard type
list.
N1MM for contests I can't find in the N3FJP group.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

ADIF export and import "mostly" work. ADIF says nothing about field lengths,
so you might experience truncation. Also, some logging applications claim to
comply with ADIF, but take liberties -- like storing Names in the QTH field,
or exporting frequencies that contain two decimal points.

DXKeeper uses the Microsoft Jet data base engine, which means that you can
open and manipulate its log files with either Excel or Access. This doesn't
help with moving log data from one application to another, but does make
your log data completely accessible should you wish to manipulate it in ways
that the application doesn't support.

73,

Dave, AA6YQ

"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message
...

"Drink" wrote in message
...
Thanks to all for spending so much time giving opinions and opposing
viewpoints. One other question. Is it feasible to use different
programs
to access the same database? (Format question). That way, maybe I could
try
a few different programs to see what works best for me without having to
fat-finger from one log to another. Maybe import/export options would
be
a
good way to do this.
I'm still using my old IC-730 and dipole, so, I don't have the need
for
receiver control/rotor control. I probably will someday, though. Will
most
programs let me import my log?

Well most programs use different ways of storing the data so they cannot
directly read each other's datafiles. However so long as they support
ADIF
export and import you can move data from program to program. Hopefully
your
current software will let you export in ADIF.

I would recommend downloading the programs and playing with them for a
while
with dummy data. After picking the one you like, then move your data.

My personal favorites a

General logging: N3FJP's ACLog - I like the user interface better than
any
I have seen and it does a good job of allowing you to track information
for
awards.

Contest logging:
N3FJP for those contests he has programmed. For the state QSO parties, I
really like the maps that show the counties worked besides the standard
type
list.
N1MM for contests I can't find in the N3FJP group.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE