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Old April 8th 04, 10:50 AM
Zlatko Feric
 
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made 2 contacts, first on April 6th, second on April 7th, but neither QSO
listed on T33 website online log???

73! 9A3MN


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Old April 8th 04, 11:32 AM
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"Zlatko Feric" wrote:

made 2 contacts, first on April 6th, second on April 7th, but neither QSO
listed on T33 website online log???

73! 9A3MN


It is like Texas weather. If you don't like what you see, just wait and
it will change.

The first time went to

http://www.df3cb.com/oqrs2/t33c/index.php

it only showed one SSB QSO and no RTTY so I assumed I was not in the log
and worked them again. Just checked back and I now have 9 QSOs showing -
most RTTY.

GL de Dick, AA5VU
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"Zlatko Feric" wrote:

made 2 contacts, first on April 6th, second on April 7th, but neither QSO
listed on T33 website online log???

73! 9A3MN


It is like Texas weather. If you don't like what you see, just wait and
it will change.

The first time went to

http://www.df3cb.com/oqrs2/t33c/index.php

it only showed one SSB QSO and no RTTY so I assumed I was not in the log
and worked them again. Just checked back and I now have 9 QSOs showing -
most RTTY.

GL de Dick, AA5VU
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Old April 8th 04, 10:42 PM
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I found that the log program doubled my contacts. Still, valuable to
know that one is somewhere in the log. Great idea.
Mac N8TT

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"Zlatko Feric" wrote in message
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made 2 contacts, first on April 6th, second on April 7th, but neither

QSO
listed on T33 website online log???

73! 9A3MN



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Old April 9th 04, 06:23 AM
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J. McLaughlin wrote:
I found that the log program doubled my contacts. Still, valuable to
know that one is somewhere in the log. Great idea.


Really? I find online logs the worst idea ever. It has not improved the
chances of finding and working the DX, it has merely made DXing into a
computerized checkbox game.

It has also made the DX-cluster unusable, because these days you will find
more URLs for online logs than actual DX-spots.


Peter Lemken
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used up, totally worn out and loudly proclaiming, 'Wow, what a ride!'


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Peter Lemken wrote:

I found that the log program doubled my contacts. Still, valuable to
know that one is somewhere in the log. Great idea.



Really? I find online logs the worst idea ever.


Must disagree, Peter. On-line logs should dramatically cut the number of
"insurance" QSOs, thus reducing the pile-ups and giving more people a
chance.

73 ... WA7AA


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Old April 9th 04, 07:58 PM
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Zoran Brlecic said :

Peter Lemken wrote:

I found that the log program doubled my contacts. Still, valuable to
know that one is somewhere in the log. Great idea.



Really? I find online logs the worst idea ever.


Must disagree, Peter. On-line logs should dramatically cut the number of
"insurance" QSOs, thus reducing the pile-ups and giving more people a
chance.


I will chime up with support for Zoran here. I popped 3B9C on 10 and
12 SSB last week and frankly, it was ESP at best. I waited to check
the logs to see whether or not my Q's were in fact in there, and I saw
that they were. I won't be wasting my time with insurance Qs on those
bands, nor will anybody need to step over my signal to get through on
10/12 again.


73 de Peter, W2IRT
(ex-AB2NZ, VE3THX)

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Old April 12th 04, 05:17 PM
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Peter Dougherty wrote:
Zoran Brlecic said :


Peter Lemken wrote:

I found that the log program doubled my contacts. Still, valuable to
know that one is somewhere in the log. Great idea.


Really? I find online logs the worst idea ever.


Must disagree, Peter. On-line logs should dramatically cut the number of
"insurance" QSOs, thus reducing the pile-ups and giving more people a
chance.


I will chime up with support for Zoran here.


And I still disagree. Let people make their insurance QSO, but they will
still have to fight their way through the pile up and use their operating
skills to do so. And if you don't know that you worked a station, well, you
didn't work it anyway, no matter what the online log says.

On the negative side (and I believe that one outweighs the possible positive
elements of online logs during an expedition) we have a vast number of
people yelling in a pile up and never listening, because they hope to be in
the log anyway. We see constant requests for URLs on the cluster, we have
people loudly complaining about incomplete logs and we have an attitude that
asks for online logs, no matter how remote the place is and how big the
expedition is.

Online logs are the last nails into the coffin of DXing by skill.

Peter Lemken
DF5JT
Berlin

--
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in
a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly
used up, totally worn out and loudly proclaiming, 'Wow, what a ride!'
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Peter Dougherty wrote:
Zoran Brlecic said :


Peter Lemken wrote:

I found that the log program doubled my contacts. Still, valuable to
know that one is somewhere in the log. Great idea.


Really? I find online logs the worst idea ever.


Must disagree, Peter. On-line logs should dramatically cut the number of
"insurance" QSOs, thus reducing the pile-ups and giving more people a
chance.


I will chime up with support for Zoran here.


And I still disagree. Let people make their insurance QSO, but they will
still have to fight their way through the pile up and use their operating
skills to do so. And if you don't know that you worked a station, well, you
didn't work it anyway, no matter what the online log says.

On the negative side (and I believe that one outweighs the possible positive
elements of online logs during an expedition) we have a vast number of
people yelling in a pile up and never listening, because they hope to be in
the log anyway. We see constant requests for URLs on the cluster, we have
people loudly complaining about incomplete logs and we have an attitude that
asks for online logs, no matter how remote the place is and how big the
expedition is.

Online logs are the last nails into the coffin of DXing by skill.

Peter Lemken
DF5JT
Berlin

--
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in
a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly
used up, totally worn out and loudly proclaiming, 'Wow, what a ride!'
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Zoran Brlecic said :

Peter Lemken wrote:

I found that the log program doubled my contacts. Still, valuable to
know that one is somewhere in the log. Great idea.



Really? I find online logs the worst idea ever.


Must disagree, Peter. On-line logs should dramatically cut the number of
"insurance" QSOs, thus reducing the pile-ups and giving more people a
chance.


I will chime up with support for Zoran here. I popped 3B9C on 10 and
12 SSB last week and frankly, it was ESP at best. I waited to check
the logs to see whether or not my Q's were in fact in there, and I saw
that they were. I won't be wasting my time with insurance Qs on those
bands, nor will anybody need to step over my signal to get through on
10/12 again.


73 de Peter, W2IRT
(ex-AB2NZ, VE3THX)

Please reply to Double-you Two Eye Are Tee at Arrl.net


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