On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 23:33:10 GMT, Doug Smith W9WI
wrote:

|Peter Lemken wrote:
| Can someone enlighten me about the purpose of spotting a DX-station's
| 'precise' QSX?
|
|Unfortunately, in a day & age when half the pileup calls every time the
|DX stops transmitting* (regardless of whom, if anyone, the DX came back
|to), this may be the only way to get any idea of where the DX is
|listening....

I don't use spots (no packet and the computer isn't even in the shack)
but you can often tell where the last spot had the DX just by
listening to the pileup move around.

These guys miss out when the DX says, "Listening .210 to .250 [pause]
and 14.190." I work 'em on 14.190 [g].

DXers have always helped other DXers -- a "one-ringer" in the middle of the
night, stations announcing the the QSX over a 2M repeater, cluster spots,
etc. Some DXers prefer to do it alone; others are happy to have help.

Live and let live. Mind your own business. Stop whining about what others do
and work some DX....by whatever means you deem appropriate.

73,

Dave, AA6YQ



"Peter Lemken" wrote in message
...
Can someone enlighten me about the purpose of spotting a DX-station's
'precise' QSX?

DX de UA0BA: 14026.0 OJ0J QSX 14027.23
1047Z
DX de DM2CUG: 18073.1 OJ0J uufb up 1
1047Z
DX de UA0BA: 18073.1 OJ0J QSX 18074.40
1050Z
DX de EA5FID: 14026.0 OJ0J QSX 14027.26
1050Z
DX de W1RM: 14024.3 RW3DTB/0 QSX 14026.20
1050Z
DX de N8DJX: 18073.0 OJ0J UP 1
1050Z
DX de EA5FID: 18073.0 OJ0J QSX 18075.07
1053Z
DX de T96Q: 18073.0 OJ0J QSX 18075.1
1055Z

That's eight spots in eight minutes and six of them want to make us
believe
that the DX-operator has finetuned his RX to ignore anything 10 Hz up or
down the purported QSX.

And most of these spots are plain wrong because these days the concept of
zero-beat is less important than the last 2 digits of a transceiver's
readout.

I'd like my DXing without spoonfeeding, thank you.

Peter Lemken
DF5JT
Berlin

--
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely
in
a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside,
thoroughly
used up, totally worn out and loudly proclaiming, 'Wow, what a ride!'

DXers have always helped other DXers -- a "one-ringer" in the middle of the
night, stations announcing the the QSX over a 2M repeater, cluster spots,
etc. Some DXers prefer to do it alone; others are happy to have help.

Live and let live. Mind your own business. Stop whining about what others do
and work some DX....by whatever means you deem appropriate.

73,

Dave, AA6YQ



"Peter Lemken" wrote in message
...
Can someone enlighten me about the purpose of spotting a DX-station's
'precise' QSX?

DX de UA0BA: 14026.0 OJ0J QSX 14027.23
1047Z
DX de DM2CUG: 18073.1 OJ0J uufb up 1
1047Z
DX de UA0BA: 18073.1 OJ0J QSX 18074.40
1050Z
DX de EA5FID: 14026.0 OJ0J QSX 14027.26
1050Z
DX de W1RM: 14024.3 RW3DTB/0 QSX 14026.20
1050Z
DX de N8DJX: 18073.0 OJ0J UP 1
1050Z
DX de EA5FID: 18073.0 OJ0J QSX 18075.07
1053Z
DX de T96Q: 18073.0 OJ0J QSX 18075.1
1055Z

That's eight spots in eight minutes and six of them want to make us
believe
that the DX-operator has finetuned his RX to ignore anything 10 Hz up or
down the purported QSX.

And most of these spots are plain wrong because these days the concept of
zero-beat is less important than the last 2 digits of a transceiver's
readout.

I'd like my DXing without spoonfeeding, thank you.

Peter Lemken
DF5JT
Berlin

--
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely
in
a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside,
thoroughly
used up, totally worn out and loudly proclaiming, 'Wow, what a ride!'

"Dave, AA6YQ" wrote in message
news:3vQFc.21123$%_6.5202@attbi_s01...
DXers have always helped other DXers -- a "one-ringer" in the middle of
the
night, stations announcing the the QSX over a 2M repeater, cluster spots,
etc. Some DXers prefer to do it alone; others are happy to have help.

Live and let live. Mind your own business. Stop whining about what others
do
and work some DX....by whatever means you deem appropriate.

73,

Dave, AA6YQ


Yes!
There are far to many hair shirts on the internet, I'm afraid.



--
John Passaneau W3JXP
Penn State University Physics
213 Osmond lab

"Dave, AA6YQ" wrote in message
news:3vQFc.21123$%_6.5202@attbi_s01...
DXers have always helped other DXers -- a "one-ringer" in the middle of
the
night, stations announcing the the QSX over a 2M repeater, cluster spots,
etc. Some DXers prefer to do it alone; others are happy to have help.

Live and let live. Mind your own business. Stop whining about what others
do
and work some DX....by whatever means you deem appropriate.

73,

Dave, AA6YQ


Yes!
There are far to many hair shirts on the internet, I'm afraid.



--
John Passaneau W3JXP
Penn State University Physics
213 Osmond lab

Don't believe anyone was grousing about how folks work DX.
Agree with your comments below.

Just addressing the original poster who sed:
"I'd like my DXing without spoonfeeding, thank you."

If that be true -- why does he use the packet cluster to find his DX ??
A form of spoon feeding sez I
Wot say ye ??
--
Lamont Cranston

The Shadow Knows
"John Passaneau" wrote in message
...

"Dave, AA6YQ" wrote in message
news:3vQFc.21123$%_6.5202@attbi_s01...
DXers have always helped other DXers -- a "one-ringer" in the middle of
the
night, stations announcing the the QSX over a 2M repeater, cluster
spots,
etc. Some DXers prefer to do it alone; others are happy to have help.

Live and let live. Mind your own business. Stop whining about what
others
do
and work some DX....by whatever means you deem appropriate.

73,

Dave, AA6YQ


Yes!
There are far to many hair shirts on the internet, I'm afraid.



--
John Passaneau W3JXP
Penn State University Physics
213 Osmond lab

Don't believe anyone was grousing about how folks work DX.
Agree with your comments below.

Just addressing the original poster who sed:
"I'd like my DXing without spoonfeeding, thank you."

If that be true -- why does he use the packet cluster to find his DX ??
A form of spoon feeding sez I
Wot say ye ??
--
Lamont Cranston

The Shadow Knows
"John Passaneau" wrote in message
...

"Dave, AA6YQ" wrote in message
news:3vQFc.21123$%_6.5202@attbi_s01...
DXers have always helped other DXers -- a "one-ringer" in the middle of
the
night, stations announcing the the QSX over a 2M repeater, cluster
spots,
etc. Some DXers prefer to do it alone; others are happy to have help.

Live and let live. Mind your own business. Stop whining about what
others
do
and work some DX....by whatever means you deem appropriate.

73,

Dave, AA6YQ


Yes!
There are far to many hair shirts on the internet, I'm afraid.



--
John Passaneau W3JXP
Penn State University Physics
213 Osmond lab