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Jack Ricci August 29th 06 02:09 AM

Let's take back ham radio!
 
OK SHOVE IT UP MINE FIRST!!!!!!
"Roger Wiseman" wrote in message
...
OK SHOVE IT UP MINE FIRST!!!!!!


....I used to get more free radios that way...

Jack


"wîthhËld fØr rËåsØñs Øf ñåtîØñål SËÇürîty" wrote in
message ...
GO **** YOURSELF! AND TAKE YOUR HAM RADIO AND SHOVE IT UP YOUR ****EN ASS

X-rated Vermonter wrote:
On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 01:38:43 GMT, "Woody" wrote:


Well... I can remember my dad filling 'er up with Fire Chief Hi-Test
back in the day, at the Sunoco station.
I'm a summer of love baby so not too old yet, LOL.
rb

++++++++++
Fire Chief was the regular grade sold by Texaco. Their premium was
Sky Chief.

In the 1950s, Sunoco sold only one grade of gasoline, which was
supposed to be a "near premium". Its gimmick was that it was dyed
blue, whereas other gasolines were yellow to red. In the 1960s, its
super-premium was Sunoco 260 from the "custom blend" pump.


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JDB September 3rd 06 02:40 AM

Let's take back ham radio!
 
So who are you remaining five guys going to talk to?

BTW, I didn't know we lost ham radio and need to take it back.

Blow Code, think before you type will you? You spend entirely too much
time on the computers. Get on the radio and talk to all the old timers
on CW will you? They are lonely and need you there.

Slow Code wrote:
1: No more automatic renewals. Individuals must retest and
pass all elements required for their license class.


2: The passing score for written exams needs to be raised to 85%.


3: Code elements should be 13 wpm for General, and 20 wpm for Extra.


4: Make the no-code license one year non-renewable.


an old friend September 3rd 06 03:58 AM

Let's take back ham radio!
 

JDB wrote:
So who are you remaining five guys going to talk to?

not qutie that bad but Slow code does like llots of BW

BTW, I didn't know we lost ham radio and need to take it back.


his idealogy lostcotrol of Ham Radio completely about 20 years ago with
the introduction of the No Code license

he is going to whine for another 50 year or till he drops dead

Blow Code, think before you type will you? You spend entirely too much
time on the computers. Get on the radio and talk to all the old timers
on CW will you? They are lonely and need you there.

thinking? I realy don't thik he can do that he seems to be one of those
fellows for whom Narrow Band OOKed RF causes brain problems


[email protected] September 3rd 06 06:39 PM

Let's take back ham radio!
 
From: an old friend on Sat, Sep 2 2006 7:58 pm


JDB wrote:
So who are you remaining five guys going to talk to?


not qutie that bad but Slow code does like llots of BW


Correction, Mark, Blow Code likes lots of BS. :-)

He also wants lots of attention and might want to be the
successor to that military impostor Robeson.


BTW, I didn't know we lost ham radio and need to take it back.


his idealogy lostcotrol of Ham Radio completely about 20 years ago with
the introduction of the No Code license


Actually 16 years ago (1990) but the movement to end the
morse code testing for AMATEURS had begun much earlier than
that.

Prior to the opening of the Internet to the public in 1991
the ARRL could retain attornies in DC to promote Hiram
Percy's ideals of morsemanship. [paid for by ARRL
members] However, no-code-test advocates did manage to
get their Petition into the NPRM stage in 1990. That
passed into LAW in 1991 and the rabid morsemen have
been frothing at the mouth over it ever since.

Interestingly enough, the ARRL had to retain a lobbyist
organization after the Internet went public...in addition
to the law firm on retainer. [also paid for by ARRL
members] The competition for the FCC's ear had grown
now that amateurs could "talk" to the FCC directly instead
of being filtered through the ARRL. Rightly so since the
ARRL membership has never been more than a quarter of all
licensed US radio amateurs. Democratic principles in
action for this republic, not the monopolistic pseudo-
"representation" of a minority group organization.

he is going to whine for another 50 year or till he drops dead


Has Blow Code ever identified himself by callsign?

Blow Code is more likely just one of the 'others' under
a new pseudonym. Either that or the pro-code-testers are
just all parroting the ARRL dicta (or is that "papal
encyclical'?) from the Church of St. Hiram in Newington.

Blow Code, think before you type will you? You spend entirely too much
time on the computers. Get on the radio and talk to all the old timers
on CW will you? They are lonely and need you there.


thinking? I realy don't thik he can do that he seems to be one of those
fellows for whom Narrow Band OOKed RF causes brain problems


My take on that is the monotonic beeping did it. :-)

Rabid morsemen reject all communications outside of their
very tight little RF spectra and sing praises of their
very narrowband mental viewpoints. Maybe that's what
they think is "intellectualism." :-)

Or, it may be some undiscovered malady in their brain
which also keeps them from advancing beyond their mental
youth. They can't think "outside their box" but then few
morsemen can think inside the box containing their radio
circuitry. It seems that anything other than their
twitching fingers carressing their code keys is some
mysterious, alien "force" in those radio boxes, a deep
mystery to them. The signs pointing to that are their
inability to talk technical other than parroting (again)
the ARRL information spoon-fed them. That lack of self-
confidence or insecurity may lead to their defensive
"we are better than you!" shouting about their beloved
psycho-motor skill of morsemanship.

Gotta love their LACK of technical details, all the time
praising to the skies of their narrowband signals yet an
almost utter lack of understanding Shannon's Law, the
universal relationship of message rate, random noise,
information error, and bandwidth. Maybe they can't
THINK faster than 20 to 40 words per minute? :-)

US amateur radio appears to be quite alive and well today.
That despite the ARRL's insistence that all amateurs
should emulate the standards and practices of the 1930s.
Instead of trying to take a neutral, hands-off policy on
code testing, the ARRL ought to look at itself and the
reason they can't get membership from the three-quarters
of all amateur licensees in the USA. That majority IS
the future of US amateur radio, not the frozen-in-their-
youth delusions of some olde-tyme morsemen.




an old friend September 3rd 06 06:53 PM

Let's take back ham radio!
 

wrote:
From: an old friend on Sat, Sep 2 2006 7:58 pm


JDB wrote:
So who are you remaining five guys going to talk to?


not qutie that bad but Slow code does like llots of BW


Correction, Mark, Blow Code likes lots of BS. :-)

that two

He also wants lots of attention and might want to be the
successor to that military impostor Robeson.


indeed asuming he isn't Robeson using the net to hide some more


BTW, I didn't know we lost ham radio and need to take it back.


his idealogy lostcotrol of Ham Radio completely about 20 years ago with
the introduction of the No Code license


Actually 16 years ago (1990) but the movement to end the
morse code testing for AMATEURS had begun much earlier than
that.

Prior to the opening of the Internet to the public in 1991
the ARRL could retain attornies in DC to promote Hiram
Percy's ideals of morsemanship. [paid for by ARRL
members] However, no-code-test advocates did manage to
get their Petition into the NPRM stage in 1990. That
passed into LAW in 1991 and the rabid morsemen have
been frothing at the mouth over it ever since.

Interestingly enough, the ARRL had to retain a lobbyist
organization after the Internet went public...in addition
to the law firm on retainer. [also paid for by ARRL
members] The competition for the FCC's ear had grown
now that amateurs could "talk" to the FCC directly instead
of being filtered through the ARRL. Rightly so since the
ARRL membership has never been more than a quarter of all
licensed US radio amateurs. Democratic principles in
action for this republic, not the monopolistic pseudo-
"representation" of a minority group organization.

he is going to whine for another 50 year or till he drops dead


Has Blow Code ever identified himself by callsign?


nope and likely never will

Blow Code is more likely just one of the 'others' under
a new pseudonym. Either that or the pro-code-testers are
just all parroting the ARRL dicta (or is that "papal
encyclical'?) from the Church of St. Hiram in Newington.


the problem with makig an ID is that so many of of tem were stamped out
of the same warped mold

Blow Code, think before you type will you? You spend entirely too much
time on the computers. Get on the radio and talk to all the old timers
on CW will you? They are lonely and need you there.


thinking? I realy don't thik he can do that he seems to be one of those
fellows for whom Narrow Band OOKed RF causes brain problems


My take on that is the monotonic beeping did it. :-)

Rabid morsemen reject all communications outside of their
very tight little RF spectra and sing praises of their
very narrowband mental viewpoints. Maybe that's what
they think is "intellectualism." :-)

Or, it may be some undiscovered malady in their brain
which also keeps them from advancing beyond their mental
youth. They can't think "outside their box" but then few
morsemen can think inside the box containing their radio
circuitry. It seems that anything other than their
twitching fingers carressing their code keys is some
mysterious, alien "force" in those radio boxes, a deep
mystery to them. The signs pointing to that are their
inability to talk technical other than parroting (again)
the ARRL information spoon-fed them. That lack of self-
confidence or insecurity may lead to their defensive
"we are better than you!" shouting about their beloved
psycho-motor skill of morsemanship.

Gotta love their LACK of technical details, all the time
praising to the skies of their narrowband signals yet an
almost utter lack of understanding Shannon's Law, the
universal relationship of message rate, random noise,
information error, and bandwidth. Maybe they can't
THINK faster than 20 to 40 words per minute? :-)

US amateur radio appears to be quite alive and well today.
That despite the ARRL's insistence that all amateurs
should emulate the standards and practices of the 1930s.
Instead of trying to take a neutral, hands-off policy on
code testing, the ARRL ought to look at itself and the
reason they can't get membership from the three-quarters
of all amateur licensees in the USA. That majority IS
the future of US amateur radio, not the frozen-in-their-
youth delusions of some olde-tyme morsemen.



indeed


[email protected] September 3rd 06 07:02 PM

Let's take back ham radio!
 

an old friend wrote:
wrote:
From: an old friend on Sat, Sep 2 2006 7:58 pm


JDB wrote:
So who are you remaining five guys going to talk to?


not qutie that bad but Slow code does like llots of BW


Correction, Mark, Blow Code likes lots of BS. :-)

that two

He also wants lots of attention and might want to be the
successor to that military impostor Robeson.


indeed asuming he isn't Robeson using the net to hide some more


I doubt it. Robesin has a peculiar format in his text and shouts
denigrations to others too much.

BTW, I didn't know we lost ham radio and need to take it back.

his idealogy lostcotrol of Ham Radio completely about 20 years ago with
the introduction of the No Code license


Actually 16 years ago (1990) but the movement to end the
morse code testing for AMATEURS had begun much earlier than
that.

Prior to the opening of the Internet to the public in 1991
the ARRL could retain attornies in DC to promote Hiram
Percy's ideals of morsemanship. [paid for by ARRL
members] However, no-code-test advocates did manage to
get their Petition into the NPRM stage in 1990. That
passed into LAW in 1991 and the rabid morsemen have
been frothing at the mouth over it ever since.

Interestingly enough, the ARRL had to retain a lobbyist
organization after the Internet went public...in addition
to the law firm on retainer. [also paid for by ARRL
members] The competition for the FCC's ear had grown
now that amateurs could "talk" to the FCC directly instead
of being filtered through the ARRL. Rightly so since the
ARRL membership has never been more than a quarter of all
licensed US radio amateurs. Democratic principles in
action for this republic, not the monopolistic pseudo-
"representation" of a minority group organization.

he is going to whine for another 50 year or till he drops dead


Has Blow Code ever identified himself by callsign?


nope and likely never will


"Well, there we have it" as Ed Hare liked to write in here... :-)


Blow Code is more likely just one of the 'others' under
a new pseudonym. Either that or the pro-code-testers are
just all parroting the ARRL dicta (or is that "papal
encyclical'?) from the Church of St. Hiram in Newington.


the problem with makig an ID is that so many of of tem were stamped out
of the same warped mold


That mold isn't so much warped as just OLD. It was fine in 1930
but 1930 is 76 years ago.


Blow Code, think before you type will you? You spend entirely too much
time on the computers. Get on the radio and talk to all the old timers
on CW will you? They are lonely and need you there.

thinking? I realy don't thik he can do that he seems to be one of those
fellows for whom Narrow Band OOKed RF causes brain problems


My take on that is the monotonic beeping did it. :-)

Rabid morsemen reject all communications outside of their
very tight little RF spectra and sing praises of their
very narrowband mental viewpoints. Maybe that's what
they think is "intellectualism." :-)

Or, it may be some undiscovered malady in their brain
which also keeps them from advancing beyond their mental
youth. They can't think "outside their box" but then few
morsemen can think inside the box containing their radio
circuitry. It seems that anything other than their
twitching fingers carressing their code keys is some
mysterious, alien "force" in those radio boxes, a deep
mystery to them. The signs pointing to that are their
inability to talk technical other than parroting (again)
the ARRL information spoon-fed them. That lack of self-
confidence or insecurity may lead to their defensive
"we are better than you!" shouting about their beloved
psycho-motor skill of morsemanship.

Gotta love their LACK of technical details, all the time
praising to the skies of their narrowband signals yet an
almost utter lack of understanding Shannon's Law, the
universal relationship of message rate, random noise,
information error, and bandwidth. Maybe they can't
THINK faster than 20 to 40 words per minute? :-)

US amateur radio appears to be quite alive and well today.
That despite the ARRL's insistence that all amateurs
should emulate the standards and practices of the 1930s.
Instead of trying to take a neutral, hands-off policy on
code testing, the ARRL ought to look at itself and the
reason they can't get membership from the three-quarters
of all amateur licensees in the USA. That majority IS
the future of US amateur radio, not the frozen-in-their-
youth delusions of some olde-tyme morsemen.



indeed


Thank you, T'ealc. :-) [let's send the morsemen through the
Stargate...one way...}


an old friend September 3rd 06 08:06 PM

Let's take back ham radio!
 

wrote:
an old friend wrote:
wrote:
From: an old friend on Sat, Sep 2 2006 7:58 pm


indeed asuming he isn't Robeson using the net to hide some more


I doubt it. Robesin has a peculiar format in his text and shouts
denigrations to others too much.

so do I although he has his moment

BTW, I didn't know we lost ham radio and need to take it back.

r identified himself by callsign?

nope and likely never will


"Well, there we have it" as Ed Hare liked to write in here... :-)


Blow Code is more likely just one of the 'others' under
a new pseudonym. Either that or the pro-code-testers are
just all parroting the ARRL dicta (or is that "papal
encyclical'?) from the Church of St. Hiram in Newington.


the problem with makig an ID is that so many of of tem were stamped out
of the same warped mold


That mold isn't so much warped as just OLD. It was fine in 1930
but 1930 is 76 years ago.

it is warped if nothing else from doing that muchstamping even if it
fit all though years ago

indeed I supect it bent abit some 30 years when it tried to put it
stamp on ME


indeed


Thank you, T'ealc. :-) [let's send the morsemen through the
Stargate...one way...}

do they have to get through at all can' t we leave them in limbo
somehow Id hate to polute some other world


[email protected] September 3rd 06 09:07 PM

Let's take back ham radio!
 

an old friend wrote:
wrote:
an old friend wrote:
wrote:
From: an old friend on Sat, Sep 2 2006 7:58 pm


indeed asuming he isn't Robeson using the net to hide some more


I doubt it. Robesin has a peculiar format in his text and shouts
denigrations to others too much.


so do I although he has his moment

BTW, I didn't know we lost ham radio and need to take it back.

r identified himself by callsign?

nope and likely never will


"Well, there we have it" as Ed Hare liked to write in here... :-)


Blow Code is more likely just one of the 'others' under
a new pseudonym. Either that or the pro-code-testers are
just all parroting the ARRL dicta (or is that "papal
encyclical'?) from the Church of St. Hiram in Newington.

the problem with makig an ID is that so many of of tem were stamped out
of the same warped mold


That mold isn't so much warped as just OLD. It was fine in 1930
but 1930 is 76 years ago.


it is warped if nothing else from doing that muchstamping even if it
fit all though years ago

indeed I supect it bent abit some 30 years when it tried to put it
stamp on ME

indeed


Thank you, T'ealc. :-) [let's send the morsemen through the
Stargate...one way...}


do they have to get through at all can' t we leave them in limbo
somehow Id hate to polute some other world


...just the one where the Ori hang out. :-)


[one who has talked with J. Michael S. on a Writer's BBS and
still can't remember how he correctly spells his surname...:-) ]


an old friend September 3rd 06 11:00 PM

Let's take back ham radio!
 

wrote:
an old friend wrote:
wrote:
an old friend wrote:
wrote:
From: an old friend on Sat, Sep 2 2006 7:58 pm


indeed asuming he isn't Robeson using the net to hide some more

I doubt it. Robesin has a peculiar format in his text and shouts
denigrations to others too much.


so do I although he has his moment

BTW, I didn't know we lost ham radio and need to take it back.

r identified himself by callsign?

nope and likely never will

"Well, there we have it" as Ed Hare liked to write in here... :-)


Blow Code is more likely just one of the 'others' under
a new pseudonym. Either that or the pro-code-testers are
just all parroting the ARRL dicta (or is that "papal
encyclical'?) from the Church of St. Hiram in Newington.

the problem with makig an ID is that so many of of tem were stamped out
of the same warped mold

That mold isn't so much warped as just OLD. It was fine in 1930
but 1930 is 76 years ago.


it is warped if nothing else from doing that muchstamping even if it
fit all though years ago

indeed I supect it bent abit some 30 years when it tried to put it
stamp on ME

indeed

Thank you, T'ealc. :-) [let's send the morsemen through the
Stargate...one way...}


do they have to get through at all can' t we leave them in limbo
somehow Id hate to polute some other world


...just the one where the Ori hang out. :-)


[one who has talked with J. Michael S. on a Writer's BBS and
still can't remember how he correctly spells his surname...:-) ]

I just leave it JMS much easier that way


Slow Code September 4th 06 03:27 AM

Let's take back ham radio!
 
JDB wrote in
:

So who are you remaining five guys going to talk to?

BTW, I didn't know we lost ham radio and need to take it back.

Blow Code, think before you type will you? You spend entirely too much
time on the computers. Get on the radio and talk to all the old timers
on CW will you? They are lonely and need you there.



JDB, You're back.

Did you get tired of playing with your model Cho-Cho trains? You could
try stamp collecting for something else to do, but you might not be smart
enough to figure out what side of a stamp to lick.


Sc


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