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Slow Code wrote:
1: No more Amateur radio is in decline and you think putting Morse code back in as a requirement would help? Bwhahahahaha. ---------------- Statistics courtesy of George McCouch, K3UD. Total active individual licenses as of May 14, 2000: Novice - 49,329 Tech/+ - 334,254 General - 112,677 Advanced - 99,782 Extra - 78,750 Total all classes - 674,792 Total active individual licenses as of June 30, 2006: Novice - 24,877 (-49.57%) (-24,456) Tech/+ - 320,242 (-4.20%) (-14,012) General - 132,758 (+17.82%) (+20,081) Advanced - 71,753 (-28.13%) (-28,029) Extra - 108,184 (+37.38%) (+29,434) Total All Classes: 657,814 (-1,405 since the March 2006 reporting period) Total all classes (5/14/00) - 674,792 Total all Classes (4/21/03) - 687,860 Total all classes (9/6/04 ) - 674,788 Total all classes (6/30/06) - 657,814 Total loss of 16,978 since 5/14/2000 (Was 674,792) Total loss of 16,974 since 9/6/2004 (Was 674,788) Total Loss of 30,066 since 4/2003 (all time high of 687,860) We lost: 842 Novice 1,088 General 1,157 Advanced 3,087 Total We Gained: 1,258 Tech/+ 424 Extra 1,682 Total This is an overall 1,405 decline since the March reporting period and averages 467 per month for the quarter. For the months March April and May the new licenses issued break down as follows. 6,999 Tech/+ 89.3% ** 627 General 8.0% 217 Extra 2.7% Total new licenses issues during the period - 7,849 ** These numbers come from the very interesting and comprehensive website of Joe Speroni, AH0A http://www.ah0a.org Numbers of US population and the number of hams at the start of each decade from 1930. Year Population # Hams Growth Rate 1930 123,202,624 19,000 1940 132,164,569 56,000 194% 1950 151,325,798 87,000 55% 1960 179,323,175 230,000 164% 1970 203,211,926 263,918 15% 1980 226,545,805 393,353 49% 1990 248,709,873 502,677 28% 2000 281,421,906 682,240 36% 2006 657,814 -3.6 % The 2006 number was as of June 30, 2006. |
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Travis Jordan wrote:
Slow Code wrote: 1: No more Amateur radio is in decline and you think putting Morse code back in as a requirement would help? Bwhahahahaha. ---------------- Statistics courtesy of George McCouch, K3UD. Total active individual licenses as of May 14, 2000: Novice - 49,329 Tech/+ - 334,254 General - 112,677 Advanced - 99,782 Extra - 78,750 Total all classes - 674,792 Total active individual licenses as of June 30, 2006: Novice - 24,877 (-49.57%) (-24,456) Tech/+ - 320,242 (-4.20%) (-14,012) General - 132,758 (+17.82%) (+20,081) Advanced - 71,753 (-28.13%) (-28,029) Extra - 108,184 (+37.38%) (+29,434) Total All Classes: 657,814 (-1,405 since the March 2006 reporting period) Total all classes (5/14/00) - 674,792 Total all Classes (4/21/03) - 687,860 Total all classes (9/6/04 ) - 674,788 Total all classes (6/30/06) - 657,814 Total loss of 16,978 since 5/14/2000 (Was 674,792) Total loss of 16,974 since 9/6/2004 (Was 674,788) Total Loss of 30,066 since 4/2003 (all time high of 687,860) We lost: 842 Novice 1,088 General 1,157 Advanced 3,087 Total We Gained: 1,258 Tech/+ 424 Extra 1,682 Total This is an overall 1,405 decline since the March reporting period and averages 467 per month for the quarter. For the months March April and May the new licenses issued break down as follows. 6,999 Tech/+ 89.3% ** 627 General 8.0% 217 Extra 2.7% Total new licenses issues during the period - 7,849 ** These numbers come from the very interesting and comprehensive website of Joe Speroni, AH0A http://www.ah0a.org Numbers of US population and the number of hams at the start of each decade from 1930. Year Population # Hams Growth Rate 1930 123,202,624 19,000 1940 132,164,569 56,000 194% 1950 151,325,798 87,000 55% 1960 179,323,175 230,000 164% 1970 203,211,926 263,918 15% 1980 226,545,805 393,353 49% 1990 248,709,873 502,677 28% 2000 281,421,906 682,240 36% 2006 657,814 -3.6 % The 2006 number was as of June 30, 2006. I just read the latest QST. In "How's DX?" the author notes that ham radio "used to be" the prime communication from and to Haiti. But now, with cell phones, satellite, etc. it is no longer as important. This is the real world. Morse is NOT the issue. Relevance (is that the correct spelling?) is the issue. Ham radio really WANTS to help in emergencies. This is very commendable. I think, though, we've been sidelined. We're still there "when all else fails". Morale of those involved remains high, from what I hear / read. However, in a typical emergency, ham radio is not nearly as primary as it used to be. It's OK. We can still contribute. Communications have been "universalized"...anyone can use a cell phone. It's natural that communications-specialists see their need waning. It's OK. As a hobby, ham radio has a LOT to offer. When I mention to others that I have re-entered ham radio, many people ask "Is that still around?" Man, of COURSE, it's still around. If you discuss ham radio with others, do you mention contacting the Space Shuttle? ham radio satellites? weak signal work in VHF/UHF? Sporadic E? Tropospheric Ducting? DX??? How about EME? You don't have to be doing these things yourself, you just need to let everyone know what the ENTIRE hobby is about. Morse, data, SSB, FM all have a place. Ham radio is NOT dying. Hams are. Share our hobby, in ALL its forms, generously with those you know. The rest will take care of itself, for better or worse. John AB8O |
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On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 21:58:07 GMT, "Travis Jordan"
wrote: Total All Classes: 657,814 (-1,405 since the March 2006 reporting period) Total all classes (5/14/00) - 674,792 Total all Classes (4/21/03) - 687,860 Total all classes (9/6/04 ) - 674,788 Total all classes (6/30/06) - 657,814 Change 5/14/00 to 4/2/03 - *+*13068 Change 4/2/03 to 9/6/04 - -13072 Change 9/6/04 to 6/30/06 - -16974 What a perfect example if ignoring evidence that doesn't back up your argument. There was no change in Morse from 5/14/00 to 4/2/03, yet we GAINED over 13,000 hams, so how is a Morse requirement decreasing the number of hams? |
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W H O T H E F U C K C A R E S ! ! ! !
THIS IS ****EN SCANNER NEWSGROUP, NOT TALK ABOUT ISSUES ABOUT AMATEUR RADIO. WHO **** CARES!. IF YOU ****EN IDIOTS WANT TO TALK ABOUT AMATEUR RADIO THEN GO YOUR LITTLE ****EN NEWSGROUP AND DISCUSS IT THEIR NOT HERE! jawod wrote: Travis Jordan wrote: Slow Code wrote: 1: No more Amateur radio is in decline and you think putting Morse code back in as a requirement would help? Bwhahahahaha. ---------------- Statistics courtesy of George McCouch, K3UD. Total active individual licenses as of May 14, 2000: Novice - 49,329 Tech/+ - 334,254 General - 112,677 Advanced - 99,782 Extra - 78,750 Total all classes - 674,792 Total active individual licenses as of June 30, 2006: Novice - 24,877 (-49.57%) (-24,456) Tech/+ - 320,242 (-4.20%) (-14,012) General - 132,758 (+17.82%) (+20,081) Advanced - 71,753 (-28.13%) (-28,029) Extra - 108,184 (+37.38%) (+29,434) Total All Classes: 657,814 (-1,405 since the March 2006 reporting period) Total all classes (5/14/00) - 674,792 Total all Classes (4/21/03) - 687,860 Total all classes (9/6/04 ) - 674,788 Total all classes (6/30/06) - 657,814 Total loss of 16,978 since 5/14/2000 (Was 674,792) Total loss of 16,974 since 9/6/2004 (Was 674,788) Total Loss of 30,066 since 4/2003 (all time high of 687,860) We lost: 842 Novice 1,088 General 1,157 Advanced 3,087 Total We Gained: 1,258 Tech/+ 424 Extra 1,682 Total This is an overall 1,405 decline since the March reporting period and averages 467 per month for the quarter. For the months March April and May the new licenses issued break down as follows. 6,999 Tech/+ 89.3% ** 627 General 8.0% 217 Extra 2.7% Total new licenses issues during the period - 7,849 ** These numbers come from the very interesting and comprehensive website of Joe Speroni, AH0A http://www.ah0a.org Numbers of US population and the number of hams at the start of each decade from 1930. Year Population # Hams Growth Rate 1930 123,202,624 19,000 1940 132,164,569 56,000 194% 1950 151,325,798 87,000 55% 1960 179,323,175 230,000 164% 1970 203,211,926 263,918 15% 1980 226,545,805 393,353 49% 1990 248,709,873 502,677 28% 2000 281,421,906 682,240 36% 2006 657,814 -3.6 % The 2006 number was as of June 30, 2006. I just read the latest QST. In "How's DX?" the author notes that ham radio "used to be" the prime communication from and to Haiti. But now, with cell phones, satellite, etc. it is no longer as important. This is the real world. Morse is NOT the issue. Relevance (is that the correct spelling?) is the issue. Ham radio really WANTS to help in emergencies. This is very commendable. I think, though, we've been sidelined. We're still there "when all else fails". Morale of those involved remains high, from what I hear / read. However, in a typical emergency, ham radio is not nearly as primary as it used to be. It's OK. We can still contribute. Communications have been "universalized"...anyone can use a cell phone. It's natural that communications-specialists see their need waning. It's OK. As a hobby, ham radio has a LOT to offer. When I mention to others that I have re-entered ham radio, many people ask "Is that still around?" Man, of COURSE, it's still around. If you discuss ham radio with others, do you mention contacting the Space Shuttle? ham radio satellites? weak signal work in VHF/UHF? Sporadic E? Tropospheric Ducting? DX??? How about EME? You don't have to be doing these things yourself, you just need to let everyone know what the ENTIRE hobby is about. Morse, data, SSB, FM all have a place. Ham radio is NOT dying. Hams are. Share our hobby, in ALL its forms, generously with those you know. The rest will take care of itself, for better or worse. John AB8O --- avast! Antivirus: Inbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0634-2, 08/24/2006 Tested on: 8/27/2006 3:06:02 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2006 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0634-2, 08/24/2006 Tested on: 8/27/2006 3:10:56 AM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2006 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com |
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jawod wrote: Travis Jordan wrote: Slow Code wrote: I just read the latest QST. In "How's DX?" the author notes that ham radio "used to be" the prime communication from and to Haiti. But now, with cell phones, satellite, etc. it is no longer as important. This is the real world. Morse is NOT the issue. it is till it is gone Relevance (is that the correct spelling?) is the issue. Ham radio really WANTS to help in emergencies. This is very commendable. I think, though, we've been sidelined. We're still there "when all else fails". Morale of those involved remains high, from what I hear / read. However, in a typical emergency, ham radio is not nearly as primary as it used to be. It's OK. We can still contribute. gee wonder if Robeson will flame for that statement John AB8O |
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The Kat wrote: On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 01:06:22 -0400, Al Klein wrote: WHY in the **** are you continuing this thread in a SCANNER newsgroup?? Lumber Cartel (tinlc) #2063. Spam this account at your own risk. This sig censored by the Office of Home and Land Insecurity... Remove XYZ to email me |
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Al Klein wrote:
On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 21:58:07 GMT, "Travis Jordan" wrote: Total All Classes: 657,814 (-1,405 since the March 2006 reporting period) Total all classes (5/14/00) - 674,792 Total all Classes (4/21/03) - 687,860 Total all classes (9/6/04 ) - 674,788 Total all classes (6/30/06) - 657,814 Change 5/14/00 to 4/2/03 - *+*13068 Change 4/2/03 to 9/6/04 - -13072 Change 9/6/04 to 6/30/06 - -16974 What a perfect example if ignoring evidence that doesn't back up your argument. There was no change in Morse from 5/14/00 to 4/2/03, yet we GAINED over 13,000 hams, so how is a Morse requirement decreasing the number of hams? Hi Al - Although it may be true I'm not arguing that the current Morse requirement decreases the number of hams. However, two elements of the OP's proposal we 3: Code elements should be 13 wpm for General, and 20 wpm for Extra. 4: Make the no-code license one year non-renewable My point was that increasing the code requirements beyond those in place as of 2003 would likely reduce the already declining rate of enrollment of new hams. |
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Travis Jordan wrote: Al Klein wrote: On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 21:58:07 GMT, "Travis Jordan" Hi Al - Although it may be true I'm not arguing that the current Morse requirement decreases the number of hams. However, two elements of the OP's proposal we 3: Code elements should be 13 wpm for General, and 20 wpm for Extra. 4: Make the no-code license one year non-renewable My point was that increasing the code requirements beyond those in place as of 2003 would likely reduce the already declining rate of enrollment of new hams. in a time where numbers are declining but that does not maater to al since the No Code techs are not hams anyway according to AL |
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On 27 Aug 2006 13:37:53 -0700, a welfare ham wrote:
in a time where numbers are declining but that does not maater to al since the No Code techs are not hams anyway according to AL Indeed you're not. ---- In message .com, makes a death threat when he writes "the mostly ooccasion [sic] where where you might it will be seconds before you die." |
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