Let's take back ham radio!
 

1: No more automatic renewals. Individuals must retest and
pass all elements required for their license class.


2: The passing score for written exams needs to be raised to 85%.


3: Code elements should be 13 wpm for General, and 20 wpm for Extra.


4: Make the no-code license one year non-renewable.

you mean let kill the ARS
 

Slow Code wrote:
1: No more automatic renewals. Individuals must retest and
pass all elements required for their license class.
might be a good idea but only if we go one class of license o make
deffernt test to renew


2: The passing score for written exams needs to be raised to 85%.
mayebe ok


3: Code elements should be 13 wpm for General, and 20 wpm for Extra.
killing the service off


4: Make the no-code license one year non-renewable.
and cuting numbers by 50percent insuring the end of the ars within 10
years

Let's take back ham radio!
 

You can't bring it back to life. It's dead. Shove code up your ASS!
Slow Code wrote:
1: No more automatic renewals. Individuals must retest and
pass all elements required for their license class.


2: The passing score for written exams needs to be raised to 85%.


3: Code elements should be 13 wpm for General, and 20 wpm for Extra.


4: Make the no-code license one year non-renewable.

Let's take back ham radio!
 

You can't bring it back to life. It's dead. Shove code up your ASS!
Slow Code wrote:
1: No more automatic renewals. Individuals must retest and
pass all elements required for their license class.


2: The passing score for written exams needs to be raised to 85%.


3: Code elements should be 13 wpm for General, and 20 wpm for Extra.


4: Make the no-code license one year non-renewable.

you mean lets kill the ARS
 

Douche Bag wrote:
You can't bring it back to life. It's dead. Shove code up your ASS!
nope it is not dead but slow code want to will it

Let's take back ham radio!
 

On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 23:15:42 GMT, Slow Code wrote:

1: No more automatic renewals. Individuals must retest and
pass all elements required for their license class.


2: The passing score for written exams needs to be raised to 85%.


3: Code elements should be 13 wpm for General, and 20 wpm for Extra.


4: Make the no-code license one year non-renewable.

5. No more "multiple guess" code test. One minute solid copy with
lots of numbers, punctuation, and intentional misspellings

6. No more VE sessions. Re-establish testing at FCC Field offices,
and train test administrators in the mold of Jules Finkelman.

7. No more pass the theory one day, the code another day. If you
expect to be a ham, you should know both the same day.

8. No more transceivers. Separate receivers and transmitters,
preferably with tubes, that you have to tune separately. For first
year of license, crystal transmit frequency control only.

9. Fill in the World Trade Center hole, re-establish the old grid of
streets, and re-establish radio row on Courtlandt Street.

Let's take back ham radio!
 

On 2006-08-22, X-rated Vermonter X-rated wrote:

5. No more......

Yeah!! And bring back beeswax candles!

nb

Let's take back ham radio!
 

X-rated Vermonter wrote in message
...
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 23:15:42 GMT, Slow Code wrote:

1: No more automatic renewals. Individuals must retest and
pass all elements required for their license class.


2: The passing score for written exams needs to be raised to 85%.


3: Code elements should be 13 wpm for General, and 20 wpm for Extra.


4: Make the no-code license one year non-renewable.

5. No more "multiple guess" code test. One minute solid copy with
lots of numbers, punctuation, and intentional misspellings


The council of VECs has already eliminated the multiple choice test. Now
it's fill in the blank or get solid copy.

Let's take back ham radio!
 

On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 19:47:36 -0400, X-rated Vermonter wrote:

and train test administrators in the mold of Jules Finkelman.

There go most potential hams. Finkleman's look could curdle stone.

9. Fill in the World Trade Center hole, re-establish the old grid of
streets, and re-establish radio row on Courtlandt Street.

Bring back Sy Denby and ARC5s.

Let's take back ham radio!
 

Al Klein wrote:
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 19:47:36 -0400, X-rated Vermonter wrote:

and train test administrators in the mold of Jules Finkelman.

There go most potential hams. Finkleman's look could curdle stone.
why bother after that

9. Fill in the World Trade Center hole, re-establish the old grid of
streets, and re-establish radio row on Courtlandt Street.

Bring back Sy Denby and ARC5s.
why you are all living in the past you can't do that it just not
possible

Let's take back ham radio!
 

If that were the case, YOU'D FLUNK !




"Slow Code" wrote in message
ink.net...
1: No more automatic renewals. Individuals must retest and
pass all elements required for their license class.


2: The passing score for written exams needs to be raised to 85%.


3: Code elements should be 13 wpm for General, and 20 wpm for Extra.


4: Make the no-code license one year non-renewable.

Let's take back ham radio!
 

Bring back the horse and buggy too. I should only take you about a month to
make it to Dayton!


"an Old friend" wrote in message
oups.com...

Al Klein wrote:
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 19:47:36 -0400, X-rated Vermonter wrote:

and train test administrators in the mold of Jules Finkelman.

There go most potential hams. Finkleman's look could curdle stone.
why bother after that

9. Fill in the World Trade Center hole, re-establish the old grid of
streets, and re-establish radio row on Courtlandt Street.

Bring back Sy Denby and ARC5s.
why you are all living in the past you can't do that it just not
possible

Let's take back ham radio!
 

Bring back the horse and buggy too. I should only take you about a month
to make it to Dayton!
"Steve" wrote in message
...

....Is there still enough room for chics in the back seats of those things?

Jack



Bring back the horse and buggy too. I should only take you about a month
to make it to Dayton!


"an Old friend" wrote in message
oups.com...

Al Klein wrote:
On Tue, 22 Aug 2006 19:47:36 -0400, X-rated Vermonter wrote:

and train test administrators in the mold of Jules Finkelman.

There go most potential hams. Finkleman's look could curdle stone.
why bother after that

9. Fill in the World Trade Center hole, re-establish the old grid of
streets, and re-establish radio row on Courtlandt Street.

Bring back Sy Denby and ARC5s.
why you are all living in the past you can't do that it just not
possible

you mean let kill the ARS
 

4: Make the no-code license one year non-renewable.
and cuting numbers by 50percent insuring the end of the ars within 10
years


ALL ARES and RACES members will have master 20 WPM CW or better

Let's take back ham radio!
 

Slow Code wrote:

1: No more automatic renewals. Individuals must retest and
pass all elements required for their license class.

Why? Is Amateur Radio a memory test? Make it a lifetime license and
reduce the FCC's workload.


2: The passing score for written exams needs to be raised to 85%.

Why not 100%? Are you saying it's ok to screw up 15% of your operating?


3: Code elements should be 13 wpm for General, and 20 wpm for Extra.

Why should anyone be tested for code proficiency if they don't plan to
use it? I can see testing for basic knowledge (dit dah = A), but why
any particular speed? Should people be tested for speed talking before
using voice modes?


4: Make the no-code license one year non-renewable.

All licenses should be no-code. Does the FCC test for speaking ability?

I don't think you have thought this through very well. Go take a nap
and come back after some extended cogitating.

Bill, W6WRT




--

Let's take back ham radio!
 

Slow Code wrote:
1: No more

Please don't feed the trolls.

Let's take back ham radio!
 

Yeah!! and my Bonnie.. bring back my Bonnie to me, to me!

Oh, and .75 cent gasoline too....
rb

"notbob" wrote in message
. ..
On 2006-08-22, X-rated Vermonter X-rated wrote:

5. No more......

Yeah!! And bring back beeswax candles!

nb

Let's take back ham radio!
 

On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 19:59:00 GMT, "Woody" wrote:

Oh, and .75 cent gasoline too....

25 cent gas. I guess I'm older than you.

Let's take back ham radio!
 

Al Klein wrote:
On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 19:59:00 GMT, "Woody" wrote:

Oh, and .75 cent gasoline too....

25 cent gas. I guess I'm older than you.
I don't recal 25 cent but I do remmber 35 cent gas

you point?

Let's take back ham radio!
 

The Kat wrote in
:

On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 15:38:39 -0400, "L." wrote:

If you "use" it enough

I WISH people would start remembering they're in a SCANNER newsgroup,
NOT a Ham newsgroup!



You would have a scanner if it weren't for hams. Ever tune 144-148 or
420-450? Good stuff Maynard.

SC

you mean lets kill the ARS
 

"an old freind" wrote in
ups.com:


Douche Bag wrote:
You can't bring it back to life. It's dead. Shove code up your ASS!
nope it is not dead but slow code want to will it




Why do you want ham radio to be like CB, Ain't one CB service enough for ya?

SC

you mean lets kill the ARS
 

Slow Code wrote:
"an old freind" wrote in
ups.com:


Douche Bag wrote:
You can't bring it back to life. It's dead. Shove code up your ASS!
nope it is not dead but slow code want to will it




Why do you want ham radio to be like CB,
Never said I did

SC

you mean let kill the ARS
 

"Steve Stone" wrote in message
...

4: Make the no-code license one year non-renewable.
and cuting numbers by 50percent insuring the end of the ars within 10
years


ALL ARES and RACES members will have master 20 WPM CW or better

and??

you mean let kill the ARS
 

ALL ARES and RACES members will have master 20 WPM CW or better

and??



kick anyone out who can't make the hurdle

you mean let kill the ARS
 

Steve Stone wrote:
ALL ARES and RACES members will have master 20 WPM CW or better

and??



kick anyone out who can't make the hurdle
and as the title sugests Kill the ars very productive exericse

you mean let kill the ARS
 

Thatll be the end of all those geeks...you guys are all nuts, glad I
found you again

Steve Stone wrote:
ALL ARES and RACES members will have master 20 WPM CW or better
and??



kick anyone out who can't make the hurdle

you mean let kill the ARS
 

"Steve Stone" wrote in message
...

ALL ARES and RACES members will have master 20 WPM CW or better

and??



kick anyone out who can't make the hurdle

Ok.... and lose 99% of the available operators when another Katrina
hits..... We needed *ANYBODY* that had a radio and a license for almost a
month after the storm. My town took the direct hit from Katrina..... even
though we are 60 miles north of the gulf, I still had 110mph sustained winds
at my house.

you mean let kill the ARS
 

Noon-Air wrote:
"Steve Stone" wrote in message
...

ALL ARES and RACES members will have master 20 WPM CW or better

and??



kick anyone out who can't make the hurdle

Ok.... and lose 99% of the available operators when another Katrina
hits..... We needed *ANYBODY* that had a radio and a license for almost a
month after the storm. My town took the direct hit from Katrina..... even
though we are 60 miles north of the gulf, I still had 110mph sustained winds
at my house.
indeed

what would be more usfull my wife and I or an old geezer with a key and
artirtic fingers or worse yet no one at all

you mean let kill the ARS
 

"Noon-Air" wrote in
:


"Steve Stone" wrote in message
...

ALL ARES and RACES members will have master 20 WPM CW or better

and??



kick anyone out who can't make the hurdle

Ok.... and lose 99% of the available operators when another Katrina
hits..... We needed *ANYBODY* that had a radio and a license for almost
a month after the storm. My town took the direct hit from Katrina.....
even though we are 60 miles north of the gulf, I still had 110mph
sustained winds at my house.



You'll lose some lazy ops, sure, but the operators that remain will be
better.

Sc

you mean let kill the ARS
 

Slow Code wrote:
"Noon-Air" wrote in
:


Ok.... and lose 99% of the available operators when another Katrina
hits..... We needed *ANYBODY* that had a radio and a license for almost
a month after the storm. My town took the direct hit from Katrina.....
even though we are 60 miles north of the gulf, I still had 110mph
sustained winds at my house.



You'll lose some lazy ops, sure, but the operators that remain will be
better.
you can't lose half the ops as you propose and survive as a funtional
gruop

it is just that simple

Sc

Let's take back ham radio!
 

Slow Code wrote:
1: No more

Amateur radio is in decline and you think putting Morse code back in as
a requirement would help?

Bwhahahahaha.
----------------
Statistics courtesy of George McCouch, K3UD.

Total active individual licenses as of May 14, 2000:
Novice - 49,329
Tech/+ - 334,254
General - 112,677
Advanced - 99,782
Extra - 78,750

Total all classes - 674,792

Total active individual licenses as of June 30, 2006:
Novice - 24,877 (-49.57%) (-24,456)
Tech/+ - 320,242 (-4.20%) (-14,012)
General - 132,758 (+17.82%) (+20,081)
Advanced - 71,753 (-28.13%) (-28,029)
Extra - 108,184 (+37.38%) (+29,434)

Total All Classes: 657,814 (-1,405 since the March 2006 reporting
period)

Total all classes (5/14/00) - 674,792
Total all Classes (4/21/03) - 687,860
Total all classes (9/6/04 ) - 674,788
Total all classes (6/30/06) - 657,814

Total loss of 16,978 since 5/14/2000 (Was 674,792)
Total loss of 16,974 since 9/6/2004 (Was 674,788)
Total Loss of 30,066 since 4/2003 (all time high of 687,860)

We lost:
842 Novice
1,088 General
1,157 Advanced
3,087 Total

We Gained:
1,258 Tech/+
424 Extra
1,682 Total

This is an overall 1,405 decline since the March reporting period
and averages 467 per month for the quarter.

For the months March April and May the new licenses issued
break down as follows.

6,999 Tech/+ 89.3% **
627 General 8.0%
217 Extra 2.7%

Total new licenses issues during the period - 7,849

** These numbers come from the very interesting and comprehensive
website of Joe Speroni, AH0A http://www.ah0a.org

Numbers of US population and the number of hams at the start of each
decade from 1930.

Year Population # Hams Growth Rate
1930 123,202,624 19,000
1940 132,164,569 56,000 194%
1950 151,325,798 87,000 55%
1960 179,323,175 230,000 164%
1970 203,211,926 263,918 15%
1980 226,545,805 393,353 49%
1990 248,709,873 502,677 28%
2000 281,421,906 682,240 36%
2006 657,814 -3.6 %

The 2006 number was as of June 30, 2006.

Let's take back ham radio!
 

Travis Jordan wrote:
Slow Code wrote:

1: No more


Amateur radio is in decline and you think putting Morse code back in as
a requirement would help?

Bwhahahahaha.
----------------
Statistics courtesy of George McCouch, K3UD.

Total active individual licenses as of May 14, 2000:
Novice - 49,329
Tech/+ - 334,254
General - 112,677
Advanced - 99,782
Extra - 78,750

Total all classes - 674,792

Total active individual licenses as of June 30, 2006:
Novice - 24,877 (-49.57%) (-24,456)
Tech/+ - 320,242 (-4.20%) (-14,012)
General - 132,758 (+17.82%) (+20,081)
Advanced - 71,753 (-28.13%) (-28,029)
Extra - 108,184 (+37.38%) (+29,434)

Total All Classes: 657,814 (-1,405 since the March 2006 reporting
period)

Total all classes (5/14/00) - 674,792
Total all Classes (4/21/03) - 687,860
Total all classes (9/6/04 ) - 674,788
Total all classes (6/30/06) - 657,814

Total loss of 16,978 since 5/14/2000 (Was 674,792)
Total loss of 16,974 since 9/6/2004 (Was 674,788)
Total Loss of 30,066 since 4/2003 (all time high of 687,860)

We lost:
842 Novice
1,088 General
1,157 Advanced
3,087 Total

We Gained:
1,258 Tech/+
424 Extra
1,682 Total

This is an overall 1,405 decline since the March reporting period
and averages 467 per month for the quarter.

For the months March April and May the new licenses issued
break down as follows.

6,999 Tech/+ 89.3% **
627 General 8.0%
217 Extra 2.7%

Total new licenses issues during the period - 7,849

** These numbers come from the very interesting and comprehensive
website of Joe Speroni, AH0A http://www.ah0a.org

Numbers of US population and the number of hams at the start of each
decade from 1930.

Year Population # Hams Growth Rate
1930 123,202,624 19,000
1940 132,164,569 56,000 194%
1950 151,325,798 87,000 55%
1960 179,323,175 230,000 164%
1970 203,211,926 263,918 15%
1980 226,545,805 393,353 49%
1990 248,709,873 502,677 28%
2000 281,421,906 682,240 36%
2006 657,814 -3.6 %

The 2006 number was as of June 30, 2006.


I just read the latest QST. In "How's DX?" the author notes that ham
radio "used to be" the prime communication from and to Haiti. But now,
with cell phones, satellite, etc. it is no longer as important.

This is the real world. Morse is NOT the issue.

Relevance (is that the correct spelling?) is the issue.

Ham radio really WANTS to help in emergencies. This is very
commendable. I think, though, we've been sidelined.

We're still there "when all else fails". Morale of those involved
remains high, from what I hear / read.

However, in a typical emergency, ham radio is not nearly as primary as
it used to be. It's OK. We can still contribute.

Communications have been "universalized"...anyone can use a cell phone.
It's natural that communications-specialists see their need waning.

It's OK.

As a hobby, ham radio has a LOT to offer. When I mention to others that
I have re-entered ham radio, many people ask "Is that still around?"

Man, of COURSE, it's still around.

If you discuss ham radio with others, do you mention contacting the
Space Shuttle? ham radio satellites? weak signal work in VHF/UHF?
Sporadic E? Tropospheric Ducting? DX???

How about EME?

You don't have to be doing these things yourself, you just need to let
everyone know what the ENTIRE hobby is about.

Morse, data, SSB, FM all have a place.

Ham radio is NOT dying. Hams are. Share our hobby, in ALL its forms,
generously with those you know. The rest will take care of itself, for
better or worse.

John
AB8O

Let's take back ham radio!
 

On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 21:58:07 GMT, "Travis Jordan"
wrote:

Total All Classes: 657,814 (-1,405 since the March 2006 reporting
period)

Total all classes (5/14/00) - 674,792
Total all Classes (4/21/03) - 687,860
Total all classes (9/6/04 ) - 674,788
Total all classes (6/30/06) - 657,814

Change 5/14/00 to 4/2/03 - *+*13068
Change 4/2/03 to 9/6/04 - -13072
Change 9/6/04 to 6/30/06 - -16974

What a perfect example if ignoring evidence that doesn't back up your
argument. There was no change in Morse from 5/14/00 to 4/2/03, yet we
GAINED over 13,000 hams, so how is a Morse requirement decreasing the
number of hams?

Let's take back ham radio!
 

W H O T H E F U C K C A R E S ! ! ! !

THIS IS ****EN SCANNER NEWSGROUP, NOT TALK ABOUT ISSUES ABOUT AMATEUR
RADIO. WHO **** CARES!.

IF YOU ****EN IDIOTS WANT TO TALK ABOUT AMATEUR RADIO THEN GO YOUR
LITTLE ****EN NEWSGROUP AND DISCUSS IT THEIR NOT HERE!




jawod wrote:
Travis Jordan wrote:

Slow Code wrote:

1: No more



Amateur radio is in decline and you think putting Morse code back in as
a requirement would help?

Bwhahahahaha.
----------------
Statistics courtesy of George McCouch, K3UD.

Total active individual licenses as of May 14, 2000:
Novice - 49,329
Tech/+ - 334,254
General - 112,677
Advanced - 99,782
Extra - 78,750

Total all classes - 674,792

Total active individual licenses as of June 30, 2006:
Novice - 24,877 (-49.57%) (-24,456)
Tech/+ - 320,242 (-4.20%) (-14,012)
General - 132,758 (+17.82%) (+20,081)
Advanced - 71,753 (-28.13%) (-28,029)
Extra - 108,184 (+37.38%) (+29,434)

Total All Classes: 657,814 (-1,405 since the March 2006 reporting
period)

Total all classes (5/14/00) - 674,792
Total all Classes (4/21/03) - 687,860
Total all classes (9/6/04 ) - 674,788
Total all classes (6/30/06) - 657,814

Total loss of 16,978 since 5/14/2000 (Was 674,792)
Total loss of 16,974 since 9/6/2004 (Was 674,788)
Total Loss of 30,066 since 4/2003 (all time high of 687,860)

We lost:
842 Novice
1,088 General
1,157 Advanced
3,087 Total

We Gained:
1,258 Tech/+
424 Extra
1,682 Total

This is an overall 1,405 decline since the March reporting period
and averages 467 per month for the quarter.

For the months March April and May the new licenses issued
break down as follows.

6,999 Tech/+ 89.3% **
627 General 8.0%
217 Extra 2.7%

Total new licenses issues during the period - 7,849

** These numbers come from the very interesting and comprehensive
website of Joe Speroni, AH0A http://www.ah0a.org

Numbers of US population and the number of hams at the start of each
decade from 1930.

Year Population # Hams Growth Rate
1930 123,202,624 19,000
1940 132,164,569 56,000 194%
1950 151,325,798 87,000 55%
1960 179,323,175 230,000 164%
1970 203,211,926 263,918 15%
1980 226,545,805 393,353 49%
1990 248,709,873 502,677 28%
2000 281,421,906 682,240 36%
2006 657,814 -3.6 %

The 2006 number was as of June 30, 2006.


I just read the latest QST. In "How's DX?" the author notes that ham
radio "used to be" the prime communication from and to Haiti. But now,
with cell phones, satellite, etc. it is no longer as important.

This is the real world. Morse is NOT the issue.

Relevance (is that the correct spelling?) is the issue.

Ham radio really WANTS to help in emergencies. This is very
commendable. I think, though, we've been sidelined.

We're still there "when all else fails". Morale of those involved
remains high, from what I hear / read.

However, in a typical emergency, ham radio is not nearly as primary as
it used to be. It's OK. We can still contribute.

Communications have been "universalized"...anyone can use a cell phone.
It's natural that communications-specialists see their need waning.

It's OK.

As a hobby, ham radio has a LOT to offer. When I mention to others that
I have re-entered ham radio, many people ask "Is that still around?"

Man, of COURSE, it's still around.

If you discuss ham radio with others, do you mention contacting the
Space Shuttle? ham radio satellites? weak signal work in VHF/UHF?
Sporadic E? Tropospheric Ducting? DX???

How about EME?

You don't have to be doing these things yourself, you just need to let
everyone know what the ENTIRE hobby is about.

Morse, data, SSB, FM all have a place.

Ham radio is NOT dying. Hams are. Share our hobby, in ALL its forms,
generously with those you know. The rest will take care of itself, for
better or worse.

John
AB8O


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jawod wrote:
Travis Jordan wrote:
Slow Code wrote:



I just read the latest QST. In "How's DX?" the author notes that ham
radio "used to be" the prime communication from and to Haiti. But now,
with cell phones, satellite, etc. it is no longer as important.

This is the real world. Morse is NOT the issue.
it is till it is gone

Relevance (is that the correct spelling?) is the issue.

Ham radio really WANTS to help in emergencies. This is very
commendable. I think, though, we've been sidelined.

We're still there "when all else fails". Morale of those involved
remains high, from what I hear / read.

However, in a typical emergency, ham radio is not nearly as primary as
it used to be. It's OK. We can still contribute.
gee wonder if Robeson will flame for that statement
John
AB8O

Let's take back ham radio!
 

The Kat wrote:
On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 01:06:22 -0400, Al Klein wrote:



WHY in the **** are you continuing this thread
in a SCANNER newsgroup??




Lumber Cartel (tinlc) #2063. Spam this account at your own risk.

This sig censored by the Office of Home and Land Insecurity...

Remove XYZ to email me

Let's take back ham radio!
 

Why did you give your ham radio away fool?

No 6 meters for you, one year!

Let's take back ham radio!
 

Al Klein wrote:
On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 21:58:07 GMT, "Travis Jordan"
wrote:

Total All Classes: 657,814 (-1,405 since the March 2006 reporting
period)

Total all classes (5/14/00) - 674,792
Total all Classes (4/21/03) - 687,860
Total all classes (9/6/04 ) - 674,788
Total all classes (6/30/06) - 657,814

Change 5/14/00 to 4/2/03 - *+*13068
Change 4/2/03 to 9/6/04 - -13072
Change 9/6/04 to 6/30/06 - -16974

What a perfect example if ignoring evidence that doesn't back up your
argument. There was no change in Morse from 5/14/00 to 4/2/03, yet we
GAINED over 13,000 hams, so how is a Morse requirement decreasing the
number of hams?

Hi Al -

Although it may be true I'm not arguing that the current Morse
requirement decreases the number of hams. However, two elements of the
OP's proposal we

3: Code elements should be 13 wpm for General, and 20 wpm for Extra.
4: Make the no-code license one year non-renewable

My point was that increasing the code requirements beyond those in place
as of 2003 would likely reduce the already declining rate of enrollment
of new hams.

Let's take back ham radio!
 

Travis Jordan wrote:
Al Klein wrote:
On Sat, 26 Aug 2006 21:58:07 GMT, "Travis Jordan"

Hi Al -

Although it may be true I'm not arguing that the current Morse
requirement decreases the number of hams. However, two elements of the
OP's proposal we

3: Code elements should be 13 wpm for General, and 20 wpm for Extra.
4: Make the no-code license one year non-renewable

My point was that increasing the code requirements beyond those in place
as of 2003 would likely reduce the already declining rate of enrollment
of new hams.
in a time where numbers are declining but that does not maater to al
since the No Code techs are not hams anyway according to AL

Let's take back ham radio!
 

On 27 Aug 2006 13:37:53 -0700, a welfare ham wrote:

in a time where numbers are declining but that does not maater to al
since the No Code techs are not hams anyway according to AL

Indeed you're not.

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