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Woody August 29th 06 01:11 AM

Let's take back ham radio!
 
Sweet Jesus!! Man, are you crazy??? Do you know how many hammies are gonna
see that and
what kind of search and rescue operation you've started....
Now lives will be lost and thousands of dollars wasted because of that
little trick.
I hope you're proud of yourself.
rb

"Jack Ricci" wrote in message
...
By replying only in CW, either text dit-dah, or periods and hyphens......

How many people actually read that, and what is your analysis of the
report?

"Woody" wrote in message
news:7WrIg.2666$nR2.321@trnddc03...
OK.... taking a poll....

By replying only in CW, either text dit-dah, or periods and hyphens......

How many people actually read that, and what is your analysis of the
report?


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Jack



I am running a script to see how long it takes you to click reply, enter
your response,
then click send. Your effective scaled-score code speed will be
calculated from those particular
clicks, along with the character count of the message. You will be made
fun of, according to your
CW speed. Anyone less than 24wpm will be required to take the new FCC
remedial code speed
Enzyte Exam for phallic phlops.

Gentlemen, gud luck.
rb




"Travis Jordan" wrote in message
. ..
Slow Code wrote:
1: No more

Amateur radio is in decline and you think putting Morse code back in as
a requirement would help?

Bwhahahahaha.
----------------
Statistics courtesy of George McCouch, K3UD.

Total active individual licenses as of May 14, 2000:
Novice - 49,329
Tech/+ - 334,254
General - 112,677
Advanced - 99,782
Extra - 78,750

Total all classes - 674,792

Total active individual licenses as of June 30, 2006:
Novice - 24,877 (-49.57%) (-24,456)
Tech/+ - 320,242 (-4.20%) (-14,012)
General - 132,758 (+17.82%) (+20,081)
Advanced - 71,753 (-28.13%) (-28,029)
Extra - 108,184 (+37.38%) (+29,434)

Total All Classes: 657,814 (-1,405 since the March 2006 reporting
period)

Total all classes (5/14/00) - 674,792
Total all Classes (4/21/03) - 687,860
Total all classes (9/6/04 ) - 674,788
Total all classes (6/30/06) - 657,814

Total loss of 16,978 since 5/14/2000 (Was 674,792)
Total loss of 16,974 since 9/6/2004 (Was 674,788)
Total Loss of 30,066 since 4/2003 (all time high of 687,860)

We lost:
842 Novice
1,088 General
1,157 Advanced
3,087 Total

We Gained:
1,258 Tech/+
424 Extra
1,682 Total

This is an overall 1,405 decline since the March reporting period
and averages 467 per month for the quarter.

For the months March April and May the new licenses issued
break down as follows.

6,999 Tech/+ 89.3% **
627 General 8.0%
217 Extra 2.7%

Total new licenses issues during the period - 7,849

** These numbers come from the very interesting and comprehensive
website of Joe Speroni, AH0A http://www.ah0a.org

Numbers of US population and the number of hams at the start of each
decade from 1930.

Year Population # Hams Growth Rate
1930 123,202,624 19,000
1940 132,164,569 56,000 194%
1950 151,325,798 87,000 55%
1960 179,323,175 230,000 164%
1970 203,211,926 263,918 15%
1980 226,545,805 393,353 49%
1990 248,709,873 502,677 28%
2000 281,421,906 682,240 36%
2006 657,814 -3.6 %

The 2006 number was as of June 30, 2006.









Woody August 29th 06 01:18 AM

Let's take back ham radio!
 
Yo homes... y'all needs tuh take a minizzle an scan roun foze a
dictionary.... fo shizzle....
Bess yet, aks bout wunna them boost mobile phonez.... den yous kin say it
widdout sayin' it wif boose caw tonez....
in an attachment, of course.
Savvy?
rb

Radio content:
A 40's vintage Collins military receiver, if dropped from about 25 feet,
will crush a human skull.

"wîthhËld fØr rËåsØñs Øf ñåtîØñål SËÇürîty" wrote in
message ...
THIS IS ****EN SCANNER NEWSGROUP, NOT TALK ABOUT ISSUES ABOUT AMATEUR
RADIO. WHO **** CARES!.

IF YOU ****EN IDIOTS WANT TO TALK ABOUT AMATEUR RADIO THEN GO YOUR

LITTLE
****EN NEWSGROUP AND DISCUSS IT THEIR NOT HERE!


Jack Ricci wrote:

By replying only in CW, either text dit-dah, or periods and hyphens......

How many people actually read that, and what is your analysis of the
report?


"Woody" wrote in message
news:7WrIg.2666$nR2.321@trnddc03...

OK.... taking a poll....

By replying only in CW, either text dit-dah, or periods and hyphens......

How many people actually read that, and what is your analysis of the
report?



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Jack



I am running a script to see how long it takes you to click reply, enter
your response,
then click send. Your effective scaled-score code speed will be
calculated from those particular
clicks, along with the character count of the message. You will be made
fun of, according to your
CW speed. Anyone less than 24wpm will be required to take the new FCC
remedial code speed
Enzyte Exam for phallic phlops.

Gentlemen, gud luck.
rb




"Travis Jordan" wrote in message
om...

Slow Code wrote:

1: No more

Amateur radio is in decline and you think putting Morse code back in as
a requirement would help?

Bwhahahahaha.
----------------
Statistics courtesy of George McCouch, K3UD.

Total active individual licenses as of May 14, 2000:
Novice - 49,329
Tech/+ - 334,254
General - 112,677
Advanced - 99,782
Extra - 78,750

Total all classes - 674,792

Total active individual licenses as of June 30, 2006:
Novice - 24,877 (-49.57%) (-24,456)
Tech/+ - 320,242 (-4.20%) (-14,012)
General - 132,758 (+17.82%) (+20,081)
Advanced - 71,753 (-28.13%) (-28,029)
Extra - 108,184 (+37.38%) (+29,434)

Total All Classes: 657,814 (-1,405 since the March 2006 reporting
period)

Total all classes (5/14/00) - 674,792
Total all Classes (4/21/03) - 687,860
Total all classes (9/6/04 ) - 674,788
Total all classes (6/30/06) - 657,814

Total loss of 16,978 since 5/14/2000 (Was 674,792)
Total loss of 16,974 since 9/6/2004 (Was 674,788)
Total Loss of 30,066 since 4/2003 (all time high of 687,860)

We lost:
842 Novice
1,088 General
1,157 Advanced
3,087 Total

We Gained:
1,258 Tech/+
424 Extra
1,682 Total

This is an overall 1,405 decline since the March reporting period
and averages 467 per month for the quarter.

For the months March April and May the new licenses issued
break down as follows.

6,999 Tech/+ 89.3% **
627 General 8.0%
217 Extra 2.7%

Total new licenses issues during the period - 7,849

** These numbers come from the very interesting and comprehensive
website of Joe Speroni, AH0A http://www.ah0a.org

Numbers of US population and the number of hams at the start of each
decade from 1930.

Year Population # Hams Growth Rate
1930 123,202,624 19,000
1940 132,164,569 56,000 194%
1950 151,325,798 87,000 55%
1960 179,323,175 230,000 164%
1970 203,211,926 263,918 15%
1980 226,545,805 393,353 49%
1990 248,709,873 502,677 28%
2000 281,421,906 682,240 36%
2006 657,814 -3.6 %

The 2006 number was as of June 30, 2006.








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Woody August 29th 06 01:22 AM

Let's take back ham radio!
 
Actually, in all seriousness... my advice is to never put a d-cell maglight
in your front pocket on a 3am call.....
No good can come from it.
rb



Interesting name, Woody. Yet, it seems to fit.




Woody August 29th 06 01:23 AM

Let's take back ham radio!
 
Yo.... DJ Scratch N'Sniff...
bump the turn-table will ya?
rb

"wîthhËld fØr rËåsØñs Øf ñåtîØñål SËÇürîty" wrote in
message ...
THIS IS ****EN SCANNER NEWSGROUP, NOT TALK ABOUT ISSUES ABOUT AMATEUR
RADIO. WHO **** CARES!.

IF YOU ****EN IDIOTS WANT TO TALK ABOUT AMATEUR RADIO THEN GO YOUR

LITTLE
****EN NEWSGROUP AND DISCUSS IT THEIR NOT HERE!


jawod wrote:

Woody wrote:

Man, of COURSE, it's still around.

If you discuss ham radio with others, do you mention contacting the
Space Shuttle? ham radio satellites? weak signal work in VHF/UHF?
Sporadic E? Tropospheric Ducting? DX???

How about EME?

You don't have to be doing these things yourself, you just need to let
everyone know what the ENTIRE hobby is about.



Huh? You mean there is something besides CW?? Man, don't you know CW
saves lives?!?!?

Listen, Weak signals are for CW work on HF while boats are burning.
Contacting the space shuttle is just pointless unless you're correcting
their keplerian elements for the return flight path or asking if they
really drink Tang, Sporadic E [aka EMF bombing] is really ****ing off
the Condensation Entities that periodically enter the atmosphere to scan
for intelligent life, and tropospheric ducting is a lie. I happen to
have the control codes to several am-sats and I randomly change the
freqs all the time, and you suckers fall for it without fail....
And DX? Hello....? Internet....?
:-)
rb


Interesting name, Woody. Yet, it seems to fit.


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Woody August 29th 06 01:25 AM

Let's take back ham radio!
 
Huh?
rb

"wîthhËld fØr rËåsØñs Øf ñåtîØñål SËÇürîty" wrote in
message ...
THIS IS ****EN SCANNER NEWSGROUP, NOT TALK ABOUT ISSUES ABOUT AMATEUR
RADIO. WHO **** CARES!.

IF YOU ****EN IDIOTS WANT TO TALK ABOUT AMATEUR RADIO THEN GO YOUR

LITTLE
****EN NEWSGROUP AND DISCUSS IT THEIR NOT HERE!


Woody wrote:

To keep you informed of your need to learn CW, so you can save lives too?
rb



"The Kat" wrote in message
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On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 01:06:22 -0400, Al Klein wrote:



WHY in the **** are you continuing this thread
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Woody August 29th 06 01:25 AM

Let's take back ham radio!
 
What?
rb

"wîthhËld fØr rËåsØñs Øf ñåtîØñål SËÇürîty" wrote in
message ...
THIS IS ****EN SCANNER NEWSGROUP, NOT TALK ABOUT ISSUES ABOUT AMATEUR
RADIO. WHO **** CARES!.

IF YOU ****EN IDIOTS WANT TO TALK ABOUT AMATEUR RADIO THEN GO YOUR

LITTLE
****EN NEWSGROUP AND DISCUSS IT THEIR NOT HERE!


Woody wrote:

To keep you informed of your need to learn CW, so you can save lives too?
rb



"The Kat" wrote in message
...

On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 01:06:22 -0400, Al Klein wrote:



WHY in the **** are you continuing this thread
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Woody August 29th 06 01:25 AM

Let's take back ham radio!
 
Hey, are you Sprechen Si English?
rb

"wîthhËld fØr rËåsØñs Øf ñåtîØñål SËÇürîty" wrote in
message ...
THIS IS ****EN SCANNER NEWSGROUP, NOT TALK ABOUT ISSUES ABOUT AMATEUR
RADIO. WHO **** CARES!.

IF YOU ****EN IDIOTS WANT TO TALK ABOUT AMATEUR RADIO THEN GO YOUR

LITTLE
****EN NEWSGROUP AND DISCUSS IT THEIR NOT HERE!


Woody wrote:

To keep you informed of your need to learn CW, so you can save lives too?
rb



"The Kat" wrote in message
...

On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 01:06:22 -0400, Al Klein wrote:



WHY in the **** are you continuing this thread
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Woody August 29th 06 01:26 AM

Let's take back ham radio!
 
That's a nasty mouth you got there... do you kiss your momma with that
mouth??

Well... in retrospect... please don't answer that...
rb

"wîthhËld fØr rËåsØñs Øf ñåtîØñål SËÇürîty" wrote in
message ...
THIS IS ****EN SCANNER NEWSGROUP, NOT TALK ABOUT ISSUES ABOUT AMATEUR
RADIO. WHO **** CARES!.

IF YOU ****EN IDIOTS WANT TO TALK ABOUT AMATEUR RADIO THEN GO YOUR

LITTLE
****EN NEWSGROUP AND DISCUSS IT THEIR NOT HERE!


Woody wrote:

To keep you informed of your need to learn CW, so you can save lives too?
rb



"The Kat" wrote in message
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On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 01:06:22 -0400, Al Klein wrote:



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Woody August 29th 06 01:27 AM

Let's take back ham radio!
 
HAHA.... do it again....
rb

"wîthhËld fØr rËåsØñs Øf ñåtîØñål SËÇürîty" wrote in
message ...
THIS IS ****EN SCANNER NEWSGROUP, NOT TALK ABOUT ISSUES ABOUT AMATEUR
RADIO. WHO **** CARES!.

IF YOU ****EN IDIOTS WANT TO TALK ABOUT AMATEUR RADIO THEN GO YOUR

LITTLE
****EN NEWSGROUP AND DISCUSS IT THEIR NOT HERE!


Woody wrote:

Yeah, you sure told yourself off but good, too.
I wouldn't take that kinda trash from an inbred skinhead if I were you!
rb

"Drake nazi" wrote in message
oups.com...

Why did you give your ham radio away fool?

No 6 meters for you, one year!






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Woody August 29th 06 01:28 AM

Let's take back ham radio!
 
LMAO! Kewl... do it again...
rb

"wîthhËld fØr rËåsØñs Øf ñåtîØñål SËÇürîty" wrote in
message ...
THIS IS ****EN SCANNER NEWSGROUP, NOT TALK ABOUT ISSUES ABOUT AMATEUR
RADIO. WHO **** CARES!.

IF YOU ****EN IDIOTS WANT TO TALK ABOUT AMATEUR RADIO THEN GO YOUR

LITTLE
****EN NEWSGROUP AND DISCUSS IT THEIR NOT HERE!


Woody wrote:

Yeah, you sure told yourself off but good, too.
I wouldn't take that kinda trash from an inbred skinhead if I were you!
rb

"Drake nazi" wrote in message
oups.com...

Why did you give your ham radio away fool?

No 6 meters for you, one year!






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Jack Ricci August 29th 06 02:09 AM

Let's take back ham radio!
 
OK SHOVE IT UP MINE FIRST!!!!!!
"Roger Wiseman" wrote in message
...
OK SHOVE IT UP MINE FIRST!!!!!!


....I used to get more free radios that way...

Jack


"wîthhËld fØr rËåsØñs Øf ñåtîØñål SËÇürîty" wrote in
message ...
GO **** YOURSELF! AND TAKE YOUR HAM RADIO AND SHOVE IT UP YOUR ****EN ASS

X-rated Vermonter wrote:
On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 01:38:43 GMT, "Woody" wrote:


Well... I can remember my dad filling 'er up with Fire Chief Hi-Test
back in the day, at the Sunoco station.
I'm a summer of love baby so not too old yet, LOL.
rb

++++++++++
Fire Chief was the regular grade sold by Texaco. Their premium was
Sky Chief.

In the 1950s, Sunoco sold only one grade of gasoline, which was
supposed to be a "near premium". Its gimmick was that it was dyed
blue, whereas other gasolines were yellow to red. In the 1960s, its
super-premium was Sunoco 260 from the "custom blend" pump.


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JDB September 3rd 06 02:40 AM

Let's take back ham radio!
 
So who are you remaining five guys going to talk to?

BTW, I didn't know we lost ham radio and need to take it back.

Blow Code, think before you type will you? You spend entirely too much
time on the computers. Get on the radio and talk to all the old timers
on CW will you? They are lonely and need you there.

Slow Code wrote:
1: No more automatic renewals. Individuals must retest and
pass all elements required for their license class.


2: The passing score for written exams needs to be raised to 85%.


3: Code elements should be 13 wpm for General, and 20 wpm for Extra.


4: Make the no-code license one year non-renewable.


an old friend September 3rd 06 03:58 AM

Let's take back ham radio!
 

JDB wrote:
So who are you remaining five guys going to talk to?

not qutie that bad but Slow code does like llots of BW

BTW, I didn't know we lost ham radio and need to take it back.


his idealogy lostcotrol of Ham Radio completely about 20 years ago with
the introduction of the No Code license

he is going to whine for another 50 year or till he drops dead

Blow Code, think before you type will you? You spend entirely too much
time on the computers. Get on the radio and talk to all the old timers
on CW will you? They are lonely and need you there.

thinking? I realy don't thik he can do that he seems to be one of those
fellows for whom Narrow Band OOKed RF causes brain problems


[email protected] September 3rd 06 06:39 PM

Let's take back ham radio!
 
From: an old friend on Sat, Sep 2 2006 7:58 pm


JDB wrote:
So who are you remaining five guys going to talk to?


not qutie that bad but Slow code does like llots of BW


Correction, Mark, Blow Code likes lots of BS. :-)

He also wants lots of attention and might want to be the
successor to that military impostor Robeson.


BTW, I didn't know we lost ham radio and need to take it back.


his idealogy lostcotrol of Ham Radio completely about 20 years ago with
the introduction of the No Code license


Actually 16 years ago (1990) but the movement to end the
morse code testing for AMATEURS had begun much earlier than
that.

Prior to the opening of the Internet to the public in 1991
the ARRL could retain attornies in DC to promote Hiram
Percy's ideals of morsemanship. [paid for by ARRL
members] However, no-code-test advocates did manage to
get their Petition into the NPRM stage in 1990. That
passed into LAW in 1991 and the rabid morsemen have
been frothing at the mouth over it ever since.

Interestingly enough, the ARRL had to retain a lobbyist
organization after the Internet went public...in addition
to the law firm on retainer. [also paid for by ARRL
members] The competition for the FCC's ear had grown
now that amateurs could "talk" to the FCC directly instead
of being filtered through the ARRL. Rightly so since the
ARRL membership has never been more than a quarter of all
licensed US radio amateurs. Democratic principles in
action for this republic, not the monopolistic pseudo-
"representation" of a minority group organization.

he is going to whine for another 50 year or till he drops dead


Has Blow Code ever identified himself by callsign?

Blow Code is more likely just one of the 'others' under
a new pseudonym. Either that or the pro-code-testers are
just all parroting the ARRL dicta (or is that "papal
encyclical'?) from the Church of St. Hiram in Newington.

Blow Code, think before you type will you? You spend entirely too much
time on the computers. Get on the radio and talk to all the old timers
on CW will you? They are lonely and need you there.


thinking? I realy don't thik he can do that he seems to be one of those
fellows for whom Narrow Band OOKed RF causes brain problems


My take on that is the monotonic beeping did it. :-)

Rabid morsemen reject all communications outside of their
very tight little RF spectra and sing praises of their
very narrowband mental viewpoints. Maybe that's what
they think is "intellectualism." :-)

Or, it may be some undiscovered malady in their brain
which also keeps them from advancing beyond their mental
youth. They can't think "outside their box" but then few
morsemen can think inside the box containing their radio
circuitry. It seems that anything other than their
twitching fingers carressing their code keys is some
mysterious, alien "force" in those radio boxes, a deep
mystery to them. The signs pointing to that are their
inability to talk technical other than parroting (again)
the ARRL information spoon-fed them. That lack of self-
confidence or insecurity may lead to their defensive
"we are better than you!" shouting about their beloved
psycho-motor skill of morsemanship.

Gotta love their LACK of technical details, all the time
praising to the skies of their narrowband signals yet an
almost utter lack of understanding Shannon's Law, the
universal relationship of message rate, random noise,
information error, and bandwidth. Maybe they can't
THINK faster than 20 to 40 words per minute? :-)

US amateur radio appears to be quite alive and well today.
That despite the ARRL's insistence that all amateurs
should emulate the standards and practices of the 1930s.
Instead of trying to take a neutral, hands-off policy on
code testing, the ARRL ought to look at itself and the
reason they can't get membership from the three-quarters
of all amateur licensees in the USA. That majority IS
the future of US amateur radio, not the frozen-in-their-
youth delusions of some olde-tyme morsemen.




an old friend September 3rd 06 06:53 PM

Let's take back ham radio!
 

wrote:
From: an old friend on Sat, Sep 2 2006 7:58 pm


JDB wrote:
So who are you remaining five guys going to talk to?


not qutie that bad but Slow code does like llots of BW


Correction, Mark, Blow Code likes lots of BS. :-)

that two

He also wants lots of attention and might want to be the
successor to that military impostor Robeson.


indeed asuming he isn't Robeson using the net to hide some more


BTW, I didn't know we lost ham radio and need to take it back.


his idealogy lostcotrol of Ham Radio completely about 20 years ago with
the introduction of the No Code license


Actually 16 years ago (1990) but the movement to end the
morse code testing for AMATEURS had begun much earlier than
that.

Prior to the opening of the Internet to the public in 1991
the ARRL could retain attornies in DC to promote Hiram
Percy's ideals of morsemanship. [paid for by ARRL
members] However, no-code-test advocates did manage to
get their Petition into the NPRM stage in 1990. That
passed into LAW in 1991 and the rabid morsemen have
been frothing at the mouth over it ever since.

Interestingly enough, the ARRL had to retain a lobbyist
organization after the Internet went public...in addition
to the law firm on retainer. [also paid for by ARRL
members] The competition for the FCC's ear had grown
now that amateurs could "talk" to the FCC directly instead
of being filtered through the ARRL. Rightly so since the
ARRL membership has never been more than a quarter of all
licensed US radio amateurs. Democratic principles in
action for this republic, not the monopolistic pseudo-
"representation" of a minority group organization.

he is going to whine for another 50 year or till he drops dead


Has Blow Code ever identified himself by callsign?


nope and likely never will

Blow Code is more likely just one of the 'others' under
a new pseudonym. Either that or the pro-code-testers are
just all parroting the ARRL dicta (or is that "papal
encyclical'?) from the Church of St. Hiram in Newington.


the problem with makig an ID is that so many of of tem were stamped out
of the same warped mold

Blow Code, think before you type will you? You spend entirely too much
time on the computers. Get on the radio and talk to all the old timers
on CW will you? They are lonely and need you there.


thinking? I realy don't thik he can do that he seems to be one of those
fellows for whom Narrow Band OOKed RF causes brain problems


My take on that is the monotonic beeping did it. :-)

Rabid morsemen reject all communications outside of their
very tight little RF spectra and sing praises of their
very narrowband mental viewpoints. Maybe that's what
they think is "intellectualism." :-)

Or, it may be some undiscovered malady in their brain
which also keeps them from advancing beyond their mental
youth. They can't think "outside their box" but then few
morsemen can think inside the box containing their radio
circuitry. It seems that anything other than their
twitching fingers carressing their code keys is some
mysterious, alien "force" in those radio boxes, a deep
mystery to them. The signs pointing to that are their
inability to talk technical other than parroting (again)
the ARRL information spoon-fed them. That lack of self-
confidence or insecurity may lead to their defensive
"we are better than you!" shouting about their beloved
psycho-motor skill of morsemanship.

Gotta love their LACK of technical details, all the time
praising to the skies of their narrowband signals yet an
almost utter lack of understanding Shannon's Law, the
universal relationship of message rate, random noise,
information error, and bandwidth. Maybe they can't
THINK faster than 20 to 40 words per minute? :-)

US amateur radio appears to be quite alive and well today.
That despite the ARRL's insistence that all amateurs
should emulate the standards and practices of the 1930s.
Instead of trying to take a neutral, hands-off policy on
code testing, the ARRL ought to look at itself and the
reason they can't get membership from the three-quarters
of all amateur licensees in the USA. That majority IS
the future of US amateur radio, not the frozen-in-their-
youth delusions of some olde-tyme morsemen.



indeed


[email protected] September 3rd 06 07:02 PM

Let's take back ham radio!
 

an old friend wrote:
wrote:
From: an old friend on Sat, Sep 2 2006 7:58 pm


JDB wrote:
So who are you remaining five guys going to talk to?


not qutie that bad but Slow code does like llots of BW


Correction, Mark, Blow Code likes lots of BS. :-)

that two

He also wants lots of attention and might want to be the
successor to that military impostor Robeson.


indeed asuming he isn't Robeson using the net to hide some more


I doubt it. Robesin has a peculiar format in his text and shouts
denigrations to others too much.

BTW, I didn't know we lost ham radio and need to take it back.

his idealogy lostcotrol of Ham Radio completely about 20 years ago with
the introduction of the No Code license


Actually 16 years ago (1990) but the movement to end the
morse code testing for AMATEURS had begun much earlier than
that.

Prior to the opening of the Internet to the public in 1991
the ARRL could retain attornies in DC to promote Hiram
Percy's ideals of morsemanship. [paid for by ARRL
members] However, no-code-test advocates did manage to
get their Petition into the NPRM stage in 1990. That
passed into LAW in 1991 and the rabid morsemen have
been frothing at the mouth over it ever since.

Interestingly enough, the ARRL had to retain a lobbyist
organization after the Internet went public...in addition
to the law firm on retainer. [also paid for by ARRL
members] The competition for the FCC's ear had grown
now that amateurs could "talk" to the FCC directly instead
of being filtered through the ARRL. Rightly so since the
ARRL membership has never been more than a quarter of all
licensed US radio amateurs. Democratic principles in
action for this republic, not the monopolistic pseudo-
"representation" of a minority group organization.

he is going to whine for another 50 year or till he drops dead


Has Blow Code ever identified himself by callsign?


nope and likely never will


"Well, there we have it" as Ed Hare liked to write in here... :-)


Blow Code is more likely just one of the 'others' under
a new pseudonym. Either that or the pro-code-testers are
just all parroting the ARRL dicta (or is that "papal
encyclical'?) from the Church of St. Hiram in Newington.


the problem with makig an ID is that so many of of tem were stamped out
of the same warped mold


That mold isn't so much warped as just OLD. It was fine in 1930
but 1930 is 76 years ago.


Blow Code, think before you type will you? You spend entirely too much
time on the computers. Get on the radio and talk to all the old timers
on CW will you? They are lonely and need you there.

thinking? I realy don't thik he can do that he seems to be one of those
fellows for whom Narrow Band OOKed RF causes brain problems


My take on that is the monotonic beeping did it. :-)

Rabid morsemen reject all communications outside of their
very tight little RF spectra and sing praises of their
very narrowband mental viewpoints. Maybe that's what
they think is "intellectualism." :-)

Or, it may be some undiscovered malady in their brain
which also keeps them from advancing beyond their mental
youth. They can't think "outside their box" but then few
morsemen can think inside the box containing their radio
circuitry. It seems that anything other than their
twitching fingers carressing their code keys is some
mysterious, alien "force" in those radio boxes, a deep
mystery to them. The signs pointing to that are their
inability to talk technical other than parroting (again)
the ARRL information spoon-fed them. That lack of self-
confidence or insecurity may lead to their defensive
"we are better than you!" shouting about their beloved
psycho-motor skill of morsemanship.

Gotta love their LACK of technical details, all the time
praising to the skies of their narrowband signals yet an
almost utter lack of understanding Shannon's Law, the
universal relationship of message rate, random noise,
information error, and bandwidth. Maybe they can't
THINK faster than 20 to 40 words per minute? :-)

US amateur radio appears to be quite alive and well today.
That despite the ARRL's insistence that all amateurs
should emulate the standards and practices of the 1930s.
Instead of trying to take a neutral, hands-off policy on
code testing, the ARRL ought to look at itself and the
reason they can't get membership from the three-quarters
of all amateur licensees in the USA. That majority IS
the future of US amateur radio, not the frozen-in-their-
youth delusions of some olde-tyme morsemen.



indeed


Thank you, T'ealc. :-) [let's send the morsemen through the
Stargate...one way...}


an old friend September 3rd 06 08:06 PM

Let's take back ham radio!
 

wrote:
an old friend wrote:
wrote:
From: an old friend on Sat, Sep 2 2006 7:58 pm


indeed asuming he isn't Robeson using the net to hide some more


I doubt it. Robesin has a peculiar format in his text and shouts
denigrations to others too much.

so do I although he has his moment

BTW, I didn't know we lost ham radio and need to take it back.

r identified himself by callsign?

nope and likely never will


"Well, there we have it" as Ed Hare liked to write in here... :-)


Blow Code is more likely just one of the 'others' under
a new pseudonym. Either that or the pro-code-testers are
just all parroting the ARRL dicta (or is that "papal
encyclical'?) from the Church of St. Hiram in Newington.


the problem with makig an ID is that so many of of tem were stamped out
of the same warped mold


That mold isn't so much warped as just OLD. It was fine in 1930
but 1930 is 76 years ago.

it is warped if nothing else from doing that muchstamping even if it
fit all though years ago

indeed I supect it bent abit some 30 years when it tried to put it
stamp on ME


indeed


Thank you, T'ealc. :-) [let's send the morsemen through the
Stargate...one way...}

do they have to get through at all can' t we leave them in limbo
somehow Id hate to polute some other world


[email protected] September 3rd 06 09:07 PM

Let's take back ham radio!
 

an old friend wrote:
wrote:
an old friend wrote:
wrote:
From: an old friend on Sat, Sep 2 2006 7:58 pm


indeed asuming he isn't Robeson using the net to hide some more


I doubt it. Robesin has a peculiar format in his text and shouts
denigrations to others too much.


so do I although he has his moment

BTW, I didn't know we lost ham radio and need to take it back.

r identified himself by callsign?

nope and likely never will


"Well, there we have it" as Ed Hare liked to write in here... :-)


Blow Code is more likely just one of the 'others' under
a new pseudonym. Either that or the pro-code-testers are
just all parroting the ARRL dicta (or is that "papal
encyclical'?) from the Church of St. Hiram in Newington.

the problem with makig an ID is that so many of of tem were stamped out
of the same warped mold


That mold isn't so much warped as just OLD. It was fine in 1930
but 1930 is 76 years ago.


it is warped if nothing else from doing that muchstamping even if it
fit all though years ago

indeed I supect it bent abit some 30 years when it tried to put it
stamp on ME

indeed


Thank you, T'ealc. :-) [let's send the morsemen through the
Stargate...one way...}


do they have to get through at all can' t we leave them in limbo
somehow Id hate to polute some other world


...just the one where the Ori hang out. :-)


[one who has talked with J. Michael S. on a Writer's BBS and
still can't remember how he correctly spells his surname...:-) ]


an old friend September 3rd 06 11:00 PM

Let's take back ham radio!
 

wrote:
an old friend wrote:
wrote:
an old friend wrote:
wrote:
From: an old friend on Sat, Sep 2 2006 7:58 pm


indeed asuming he isn't Robeson using the net to hide some more

I doubt it. Robesin has a peculiar format in his text and shouts
denigrations to others too much.


so do I although he has his moment

BTW, I didn't know we lost ham radio and need to take it back.

r identified himself by callsign?

nope and likely never will

"Well, there we have it" as Ed Hare liked to write in here... :-)


Blow Code is more likely just one of the 'others' under
a new pseudonym. Either that or the pro-code-testers are
just all parroting the ARRL dicta (or is that "papal
encyclical'?) from the Church of St. Hiram in Newington.

the problem with makig an ID is that so many of of tem were stamped out
of the same warped mold

That mold isn't so much warped as just OLD. It was fine in 1930
but 1930 is 76 years ago.


it is warped if nothing else from doing that muchstamping even if it
fit all though years ago

indeed I supect it bent abit some 30 years when it tried to put it
stamp on ME

indeed

Thank you, T'ealc. :-) [let's send the morsemen through the
Stargate...one way...}


do they have to get through at all can' t we leave them in limbo
somehow Id hate to polute some other world


...just the one where the Ori hang out. :-)


[one who has talked with J. Michael S. on a Writer's BBS and
still can't remember how he correctly spells his surname...:-) ]

I just leave it JMS much easier that way


Slow Code September 4th 06 03:27 AM

Let's take back ham radio!
 
JDB wrote in
:

So who are you remaining five guys going to talk to?

BTW, I didn't know we lost ham radio and need to take it back.

Blow Code, think before you type will you? You spend entirely too much
time on the computers. Get on the radio and talk to all the old timers
on CW will you? They are lonely and need you there.



JDB, You're back.

Did you get tired of playing with your model Cho-Cho trains? You could
try stamp collecting for something else to do, but you might not be smart
enough to figure out what side of a stamp to lick.


Sc

an old friend September 4th 06 03:32 AM

slow code on parade
 

Slow Code wrote:

Did you get tired of playing with your model Cho-Cho trains? You could
try stamp collecting for something else to do, but you might not be smart
enough to figure out what side of a stamp to lick.

slow code on parade


Sc



Slow Code September 5th 06 12:15 AM

Let's take back ham radio!
 
"an old friend" wrote in
ups.com:


Slow Code wrote:

Did you get tired of playing with your model Cho-Cho trains? You could
try stamp collecting for something else to do, but you might not be
smart enough to figure out what side of a stamp to lick.


slow code on parade



I won't suggest stamp collecting for you Mark. You would probably whine
that the little boxes where you paste the stamps are too small and you
won't go any further until the post office makes bigger boxes, and that
the problem is the big stamp collectors want stamp collecting to be like
a frat house and squeeze out the little guy.

Sc



an old friend September 5th 06 01:00 AM

Let's take back ham radio!
 
Slow Code wrote:
"an old friend" wrote in
ups.com:


Slow Code wrote:

Did you get tired of playing with your model Cho-Cho trains? You could
try stamp collecting for something else to do, but you might not be
smart enough to figure out what side of a stamp to lick.


slow code on parade



I won't suggest stamp collecting for you Mark.


well stamp collecting is one of my hobbies as it happens

but you it seems will always be the hate filled bag of bile that show
yourself as much like Wisemen and Robeson and Heil

slow code:kook on parade


John S. September 19th 06 02:01 PM

Let's take back ham radio!
 
OK, who are you going to take it from. And what are you going to do
once you get it.


Not Lloyd wrote:
"an old freind" wrote in message
oups.com...

get help wrote:
On 27 Aug 2006 13:37:53 -0700, a welfare ham

wrote:

in a time where numbers are declining but that does not maater to al
since the No Code techs are not hams anyway according to AL


Indeed I'm not.

--
Mark caught forging using Steve's name.
"Steve's" post has headers:

X-Complaints-To:
X-Submitted-By: 66.82.9.42


Your reply contains headers:

NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.82.9.42
Injection-Info: 38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com; posting-host=66.82.9.42


'Nuff said.

www.marksspamblog.blogspot.com



Brian Hill September 19th 06 05:12 PM

Let's take back ham radio!
 

"John S." wrote in message
oups.com...
OK, who are you going to take it from. And what are you going to do
once you get it.



Those idiots couldn't take back an overdue library book.

BH



R. Scott September 19th 06 08:09 PM

Let's take back ham radio!
 
they have failed to adapt and change with the time and thus lostthe the
place of the ARS in techinical inovation (wether that can be regained I
don't know) the have lost control of the ARS now. sadly the Nocoders
have not manged to fully grab control either

BH


Received my License in 1977.

Funny I don't feel like I've lost anything, I've gained a lot since I
started, but haven't lost (well maybe the 220mhz
theft by lying scum of UPS but that's another story)


Scotty W7PSK




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