Ups the real story....

UPS sends all parcels to Louisville KY, to a place they called HUB 2K... The
place is huge and mostly run by computers and conveyor belts (at One point I
counted 14 stacked on top of each other and running in every direction) The
conveyors do a number of things, like scan packages on all 6 sides, and dump
and bump like you wouldn't believe..

A package comes into the hub on a huge cargo plane.,,, A device called a
K-loader unloads two huge air cargo containers at a time ( oh and they have
to use a jackstand at the rear of the plane as they unload or the plane
could tip over) The container is set on roller plate (6 inch casters turned
upside down) that allows anyone to move these huge containers with ease. The
air cargo containers at locked in place in front of a movable belt that the
employees (pretty much the only folks there) move (read toss) packages
onto.... Heaven forbid your package gets on the bottom row of these
containers. From there is off to the maze of belts and chutes where more
employees repack your stuff into different air cargo containers.... The
place is huge and busy.. How do I know I used to work for UPS (in phx) and
have seen what and how they do business. Needless to say I use only FEDEX
ground....

Oh and good luck with insurance claims (the horror stories I used to get
when I mentioned I was a UPS employee... wheew .....)

This are my opinions only.... Make your own choices of carriers...
Bob

On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 14:56:10 -0700, Al Lorona
wrote:


Hi, Everybody,

I have been shocked to learn recently how expensive shipping can be.
What do you guys all do when you have to ship equipment?

I am selling a Drake station and took the AC-4 / MS-4 to the local
Mailboxes, Etc. store to get an idea of how much it would cost. They
told me that UPS Ground was $36.86 to ship from California to Michigan.
And that was not including the packing! And there would be two more
boxes to ship (for the receiver and transmitter)!

I had to give my buyer that sad news that, at these prices, I can't
afford to ship!

What is the best practice to follow when needing to ship equipment
across the country?

I ship FedEx Ground. a 12 pound box from west coast to east coast was
about $7.

Evan
To reply, remove TheObvious from my e-mail address.

On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 14:56:10 -0700, Al Lorona
wrote:


Hi, Everybody,

I have been shocked to learn recently how expensive shipping can be.
What do you guys all do when you have to ship equipment?

I am selling a Drake station and took the AC-4 / MS-4 to the local
Mailboxes, Etc. store to get an idea of how much it would cost. They
told me that UPS Ground was $36.86 to ship from California to Michigan.
And that was not including the packing! And there would be two more
boxes to ship (for the receiver and transmitter)!

I had to give my buyer that sad news that, at these prices, I can't
afford to ship!

What is the best practice to follow when needing to ship equipment
across the country?

I ship FedEx Ground. a 12 pound box from west coast to east coast was
about $7.

Evan
To reply, remove TheObvious from my e-mail address.

For small light items (10# or less) Priority Mail can't be beat, unless you
have to insure it for a high value. Do buy the delivery confirmation,
however. Fedex Ground generally beats UPS, but check the UPS site. I have
found that my lowest costs come by scheduling a "1 time pickup" at my
residence, actually get better rates that dropping off at their customer
counter! YMMV
JohnL sends....

"Al Lorona" wrote in message
...

Hi, Everybody,

I have been shocked to learn recently how expensive shipping can be.
What do you guys all do when you have to ship equipment?

I am selling a Drake station and took the AC-4 / MS-4 to the local
Mailboxes, Etc. store to get an idea of how much it would cost. They
told me that UPS Ground was $36.86 to ship from California to Michigan.
And that was not including the packing! And there would be two more
boxes to ship (for the receiver and transmitter)!

I had to give my buyer that sad news that, at these prices, I can't
afford to ship!

What is the best practice to follow when needing to ship equipment
across the country?

Thanks.


Regards,

Al W6LX

For small light items (10# or less) Priority Mail can't be beat, unless you
have to insure it for a high value. Do buy the delivery confirmation,
however. Fedex Ground generally beats UPS, but check the UPS site. I have
found that my lowest costs come by scheduling a "1 time pickup" at my
residence, actually get better rates that dropping off at their customer
counter! YMMV
JohnL sends....

"Al Lorona" wrote in message
...

Hi, Everybody,

I have been shocked to learn recently how expensive shipping can be.
What do you guys all do when you have to ship equipment?

I am selling a Drake station and took the AC-4 / MS-4 to the local
Mailboxes, Etc. store to get an idea of how much it would cost. They
told me that UPS Ground was $36.86 to ship from California to Michigan.
And that was not including the packing! And there would be two more
boxes to ship (for the receiver and transmitter)!

I had to give my buyer that sad news that, at these prices, I can't
afford to ship!

What is the best practice to follow when needing to ship equipment
across the country?

Thanks.


Regards,

Al W6LX

On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 19:45:46 -0700, bobinphx wrote:

Ups the real story....

UPS sends all parcels to Louisville KY, to a place they called HUB 2K...

ALL of its parcels? The last five shipments that I have received
and/or sent have never been east of the Mississippi River, and
even those from "the East" never got anywhere near Louisville.

Or is the tracking record lying to me?

--
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane

From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon

On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 19:45:46 -0700, bobinphx wrote:

Ups the real story....

UPS sends all parcels to Louisville KY, to a place they called HUB 2K...

ALL of its parcels? The last five shipments that I have received
and/or sent have never been east of the Mississippi River, and
even those from "the East" never got anywhere near Louisville.

Or is the tracking record lying to me?

--
73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane

From a Clearing in the Silicon Forest
Beaverton (Washington County) Oregon

In article ,
Phil Kane wrote:

UPS sends all parcels to Louisville KY, to a place they called HUB 2K...

ALL of its parcels? The last five shipments that I have received
and/or sent have never been east of the Mississippi River, and
even those from "the East" never got anywhere near Louisville.

Or is the tracking record lying to me?

Nah, it's not lying as far as I can tell. Ground shipments seem to go
direct, pretty much... they arrive too fast to have been shipped to
Louisville unless they were sending 'em by air rather than by truck.

Now, it's quite possible that packages which are sent next-day-air are
shipped to one or more large dispatch hubs, and then shipped out again
from there. I recall hearing that Federal Express used this approach
with its overnight-delivery service... they'd fly everything back to
one big hub (arriving by late evening), sort it, and fly it out again
to the destination city in the wee hours. This approach probably
required a lot less individual airplane routes than would be required
to allow for direct city-to-city shipment.

--
Dave Platt AE6EO
Hosting the Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior
I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will
boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads!

In article ,
Phil Kane wrote:

UPS sends all parcels to Louisville KY, to a place they called HUB 2K...

ALL of its parcels? The last five shipments that I have received
and/or sent have never been east of the Mississippi River, and
even those from "the East" never got anywhere near Louisville.

Or is the tracking record lying to me?

Nah, it's not lying as far as I can tell. Ground shipments seem to go
direct, pretty much... they arrive too fast to have been shipped to
Louisville unless they were sending 'em by air rather than by truck.

Now, it's quite possible that packages which are sent next-day-air are
shipped to one or more large dispatch hubs, and then shipped out again
from there. I recall hearing that Federal Express used this approach
with its overnight-delivery service... they'd fly everything back to
one big hub (arriving by late evening), sort it, and fly it out again
to the destination city in the wee hours. This approach probably
required a lot less individual airplane routes than would be required
to allow for direct city-to-city shipment.

--
Dave Platt AE6EO
Hosting the Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior
I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will
boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads!

"Phil Kane" wrote in message
.net...
On Tue, 22 Jul 2003 19:45:46 -0700, bobinphx wrote:

Ups the real story....

UPS sends all parcels to Louisville KY, to a place they called HUB 2K...

ALL of its parcels? The last five shipments that I have received
and/or sent have never been east of the Mississippi River, and
even those from "the East" never got anywhere near Louisville.

Or is the tracking record lying to me?

I know they don't send "all" parcels to Louisville.. they certainly don't
send local shipments there. We used to get Double O Electronics to ship to
us in Newberg same day all the time.. if we caught them early in the
morning, before pickup, we would have the parts that afternoon, around 2:30
or so.