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RF getting into audio of TS-440SAT
I have been struggling for some time to get RF out of the TX audio on
a TS-440SAT when in data mode. I have ferrite blocks everywhere; power lead, 13 pin audio lead, aerial feeder, data control cable. Sometimes I seem to cure it then it returns. Checked every grounding screw in the rig, checked all internal connectors. Fitted isolation transformers on audio. It stillcomes back. Does anyone know where the weakness is in this rig? Richard G4BBH |
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I had this problem myself once. RF was getting in through the
Microphone connector. ferrite on the Mic cable corrected it for me. Good luck, Bruce , N1RX On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 15:08:25 +0100, Richard C. Ferryman wrote: I have been struggling for some time to get RF out of the TX audio on a TS-440SAT when in data mode. I have ferrite blocks everywhere; power lead, 13 pin audio lead, aerial feeder, data control cable. Sometimes I seem to cure it then it returns. Checked every grounding screw in the rig, checked all internal connectors. Fitted isolation transformers on audio. It stillcomes back. Does anyone know where the weakness is in this rig? Richard G4BBH |
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I had this problem myself once. RF was getting in through the
Microphone connector. ferrite on the Mic cable corrected it for me. Good luck, Bruce , N1RX On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 15:08:25 +0100, Richard C. Ferryman wrote: I have been struggling for some time to get RF out of the TX audio on a TS-440SAT when in data mode. I have ferrite blocks everywhere; power lead, 13 pin audio lead, aerial feeder, data control cable. Sometimes I seem to cure it then it returns. Checked every grounding screw in the rig, checked all internal connectors. Fitted isolation transformers on audio. It stillcomes back. Does anyone know where the weakness is in this rig? Richard G4BBH |
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I had this problem myself, years ago. Turns out, the RF was getting in
through the Mic cable. If you still have the mic connected, even though you are putting your data in through the back, try disconnecting the Mic, or using ferrite on the mic cord right at the front panel connector. Good luck. Bruce, N1RX On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 15:08:25 +0100, Richard C. Ferryman wrote: I have been struggling for some time to get RF out of the TX audio on a TS-440SAT when in data mode. I have ferrite blocks everywhere; power lead, 13 pin audio lead, aerial feeder, data control cable. Sometimes I seem to cure it then it returns. Checked every grounding screw in the rig, checked all internal connectors. Fitted isolation transformers on audio. It stillcomes back. Does anyone know where the weakness is in this rig? Richard G4BBH |
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I had this problem myself, years ago. Turns out, the RF was getting in
through the Mic cable. If you still have the mic connected, even though you are putting your data in through the back, try disconnecting the Mic, or using ferrite on the mic cord right at the front panel connector. Good luck. Bruce, N1RX On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 15:08:25 +0100, Richard C. Ferryman wrote: I have been struggling for some time to get RF out of the TX audio on a TS-440SAT when in data mode. I have ferrite blocks everywhere; power lead, 13 pin audio lead, aerial feeder, data control cable. Sometimes I seem to cure it then it returns. Checked every grounding screw in the rig, checked all internal connectors. Fitted isolation transformers on audio. It stillcomes back. Does anyone know where the weakness is in this rig? Richard G4BBH |
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The RF is definitely getting into the data audio as the mic is not
plugged in and the mute line is grounded. The effect is that the transmitter runs full power rf out regardless of gain setting. When it is stable the power controls smoothly with the tx (mic) gain control. Richard Leigh W3NLB wrote: On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 15:08:25 +0100, Richard C. Ferryman wrote: I have been struggling for some time to get RF out of the TX audio on a TS-440SAT when in data mode. I have ferrite blocks everywhere; power lead, 13 pin audio lead, aerial feeder, data control cable. Sometimes I seem to cure it then it returns. Checked every grounding screw in the rig, checked all internal connectors. Fitted isolation transformers on audio. It stillcomes back. Does anyone know where the weakness is in this rig? Richard G4BBH Are you sure it's only in data mode? And are you sure it's RF getting in? I'm asking because data is more sensitive to frequency variations than most other modes. There is a known problem with the VCO in this radio. Contamination of a conformal coating designed to protect the components from humidity is actually hygroscopic. The fix is to remove the coating and replace it with hot-melt glue. Any Kenwood warranty station will perform this mod under warranty on any TS-440, regardless of whether you were the original purchaser (or they used to... I can't speak for Kenwood). 73 de Leigh W3NLB |
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The RF is definitely getting into the data audio as the mic is not
plugged in and the mute line is grounded. The effect is that the transmitter runs full power rf out regardless of gain setting. When it is stable the power controls smoothly with the tx (mic) gain control. Richard Leigh W3NLB wrote: On Wed, 13 Aug 2003 15:08:25 +0100, Richard C. Ferryman wrote: I have been struggling for some time to get RF out of the TX audio on a TS-440SAT when in data mode. I have ferrite blocks everywhere; power lead, 13 pin audio lead, aerial feeder, data control cable. Sometimes I seem to cure it then it returns. Checked every grounding screw in the rig, checked all internal connectors. Fitted isolation transformers on audio. It stillcomes back. Does anyone know where the weakness is in this rig? Richard G4BBH Are you sure it's only in data mode? And are you sure it's RF getting in? I'm asking because data is more sensitive to frequency variations than most other modes. There is a known problem with the VCO in this radio. Contamination of a conformal coating designed to protect the components from humidity is actually hygroscopic. The fix is to remove the coating and replace it with hot-melt glue. Any Kenwood warranty station will perform this mod under warranty on any TS-440, regardless of whether you were the original purchaser (or they used to... I can't speak for Kenwood). 73 de Leigh W3NLB |
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Richard C. Ferryman wrote in message . ..
I have been struggling for some time to get RF out of the TX audio on a TS-440SAT when in data mode. I have ferrite blocks everywhere; power lead, 13 pin audio lead, aerial feeder, data control cable. Sometimes I seem to cure it then it returns. Checked every grounding screw in the rig, checked all internal connectors. Fitted isolation transformers on audio. It stillcomes back. Does anyone know where the weakness is in this rig? Richard G4BBH What kind of antenna and feedline are you using? MK |
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Richard C. Ferryman wrote in message . ..
I have been struggling for some time to get RF out of the TX audio on a TS-440SAT when in data mode. I have ferrite blocks everywhere; power lead, 13 pin audio lead, aerial feeder, data control cable. Sometimes I seem to cure it then it returns. Checked every grounding screw in the rig, checked all internal connectors. Fitted isolation transformers on audio. It stillcomes back. Does anyone know where the weakness is in this rig? Richard G4BBH What kind of antenna and feedline are you using? MK |
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I just disconnected every multi-pin connector in the rig that carries
audio or rf and wiped the pins and applied some 'switch cleaner' lubricant. I also removed several screws around chassis components and antenna connector and cleaned the mating surfaces with a glass fibre brush, wiped with same lubricant and refitted screws. The rig is stable again. Seems that the TS-440 must have some horrendous rf curents circulating around the chassis that can't tolerate a few milliohms of contact resistance. Now we'll see how long it stays stable! Oh for a solid cast aluminium chassis. 73 de Richard G4BBH |
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