An inexpensive solid state rig for "AM" use
is the Yaesu FT-757GX or GX II. There
are a number of them around for about
$300.00 without the power supply (FD-700/757
heavy duty power supply). Any 13.5 VDC 20amp
power supply will work with this rig and the power
supplies, FD-700/757, are cheap as well. If you
don't mind the size and weight there are a number
of other trasmitters, ie Hallicrafter HT-32/A,
HT-37, Heathkit DX-40, DX-60, DX-100
etc that will give you excellent "AM" results. The latter
rigs would need an outboard receiver capable of "AM",
not zero beating an "AM" signal although that
can be done. The HT-32A is an excellent "AM"
transmitter, I used one for years before selling it
because of shipping weight and desk space.

As for "Crowded bands", well that's been around
for years and a few stations using "AM" won't
be a problem. After all, "AM" was the original
mode of voice long before "SSB" ever came around.
That was not to mean that "SSB" is no more important
that "AM", just to say "AM" still works and a lot of
folks still use it.

I have no problem with stations that want to operate
"AM". So if you are looking for "AM" gear than
charge on my friend, there's tons of it out there for the
picking.

73's

Mike
DA1TNJ / WB8TNJ

"Paul Clay" wrote in message
...
Bob Stein wrote:

Running AM is fun, but you don't get the 'full effect' unless it
smells
funny and once in a while catches fire.

"Real radios glow in the dark"

Dan/W4NTI

"Paul Clay" wrote in message
...

Do any of the solid state rigs from the mid-80s to present put out a
good AM signal? If so, which ones? Is the conventional wisdom true
that only by resurrecting a boatanchor tube transmitter can an
operator
get a nice sounding AM signal?

Thanks!





It may be fun, but it is also inconsiderate unless on a little used
band. It takes up at least twice the spectrum of an SSB signal, and
possibly more - hardly necessary given crowded band conditions. Not to
mention the off-frequency heterodynes.

Just two cents worth from an old timer (licensed for nearly 65 years)
and brought up on AM.

Bob, W6NBI


I agree that it's important to be considerate, Bob. But even today, I
think
there's still room for playing around with AM, especially if one is
carefull
about the time of operation, the amount of power used (I'm planning on
using 40
watts output or so) and radiating a good signal. No question that SSB
uses less
spectrum for voice communications, but, if one is willing to forgo the
enjoyment
(dare I say fun) of operating phone, one could conserve even more spectrum
by
operating CW exclusively. Obviously there's a trade-off involved (between
the
extra "utility", broadly defined, of higher fidelity signals and the
extra,
double as you say, bandwidth consumed), but, so long as operators exhibit
good
judgment and courtesy, I think the community's enjoyment of the hobby is
maximized by giving people the choice of operating AM.

- Paul, N6LQ

"Bob Stein" wrote in message
...
Dan/W4NTI wrote:
There are lots of folks running the 'rice boxes'. I can attest by using
the
following rigs to got results.

Yaesu FT-101 series.
Kenwood Twins

Newer rigs such as the FT-1000MP does fine also, and the new Kenwood
TS-2000
sound good.

Running AM is fun, but you don't get the 'full effect' unless it smells
funny and once in a while catches fire.

"Real radios glow in the dark"

Dan/W4NTI

"Paul Clay" wrote in message
...

Do any of the solid state rigs from the mid-80s to present put out a
good AM signal? If so, which ones? Is the conventional wisdom true
that only by resurrecting a boatanchor tube transmitter can an operator
get a nice sounding AM signal?

Thanks!





It may be fun, but it is also inconsiderate unless on a little used
band. It takes up at least twice the spectrum of an SSB signal, and
possibly more - hardly necessary given crowded band conditions. Not to
mention the off-frequency heterodynes.

Just two cents worth from an old timer (licensed for nearly 65 years)
and brought up on AM.

Bob, W6NBI

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Your arguement is invalid. Considering modern day receivers with DSP, notch
filters, and crystal/DSP IF filters. You don't hear the other sideband, or
the carrier.....if you know how to use them that is.

Dan/W4NTI

On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:20:58 -0800, Bob Stein
wrote:







It may be fun, but it is also inconsiderate unless on a little used
band. It takes up at least twice the spectrum of an SSB signal, and
possibly more - hardly necessary given crowded band conditions. Not to
mention the off-frequency heterodynes.

Maybe so, but in my part of the country, there's a group that gets up
at 5 o'clock in the morning to run AM on 75 meters, and their fat
signals do little harm. Good to hear the old timers keeping alive some
of our ham heritage.

Bob
k5qwg


Just two cents worth from an old timer (licensed for nearly 65 years)
and brought up on AM.

Bob, W6NBI

I thought the question was about what kind of rig is usable for AM. I do
not us AM but I do listen at times to some locals, and is good to see many
modes still used. My Icom 765 should work for AM, and some day I might try
it just to say HI to the group. There is plenty of room on the bands for
their use.


"Bob Miller" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:20:58 -0800, Bob Stein
wrote:







It may be fun, but it is also inconsiderate unless on a little used
band. It takes up at least twice the spectrum of an SSB signal, and
possibly more - hardly necessary given crowded band conditions. Not to
mention the off-frequency heterodynes.

Maybe so, but in my part of the country, there's a group that gets up
at 5 o'clock in the morning to run AM on 75 meters, and their fat
signals do little harm. Good to hear the old timers keeping alive some
of our ham heritage.

Bob
k5qwg


Just two cents worth from an old timer (licensed for nearly 65 years)
and brought up on AM.

Bob, W6NBI

I thought the question was about what kind of rig is usable for AM. I do
not us AM but I do listen at times to some locals, and is good to see many
modes still used. My Icom 765 should work for AM, and some day I might try
it just to say HI to the group. There is plenty of room on the bands for
their use.


"Bob Miller" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:20:58 -0800, Bob Stein
wrote:







It may be fun, but it is also inconsiderate unless on a little used
band. It takes up at least twice the spectrum of an SSB signal, and
possibly more - hardly necessary given crowded band conditions. Not to
mention the off-frequency heterodynes.

Maybe so, but in my part of the country, there's a group that gets up
at 5 o'clock in the morning to run AM on 75 meters, and their fat
signals do little harm. Good to hear the old timers keeping alive some
of our ham heritage.

Bob
k5qwg


Just two cents worth from an old timer (licensed for nearly 65 years)
and brought up on AM.

Bob, W6NBI

Bob Stein wrote:

Running AM is fun, but you don't get the 'full effect' unless it smells
funny and once in a while catches fire.

"Real radios glow in the dark"

Dan/W4NTI

"Paul Clay" wrote in message
...

Do any of the solid state rigs from the mid-80s to present put out a
good AM signal? If so, which ones? Is the conventional wisdom true
that only by resurrecting a boatanchor tube transmitter can an operator
get a nice sounding AM signal?

Thanks!





It may be fun, but it is also inconsiderate unless on a little used
band. It takes up at least twice the spectrum of an SSB signal, and
possibly more - hardly necessary given crowded band conditions. Not to
mention the off-frequency heterodynes.

Just two cents worth from an old timer (licensed for nearly 65 years)
and brought up on AM.

Bob, W6NBI


I agree that it's important to be considerate, Bob. But even today, I think
there's still room for playing around with AM, especially if one is carefull
about the time of operation, the amount of power used (I'm planning on using 40
watts output or so) and radiating a good signal. No question that SSB uses less
spectrum for voice communications, but, if one is willing to forgo the enjoyment
(dare I say fun) of operating phone, one could conserve even more spectrum by
operating CW exclusively. Obviously there's a trade-off involved (between the
extra "utility", broadly defined, of higher fidelity signals and the extra,
double as you say, bandwidth consumed), but, so long as operators exhibit good
judgment and courtesy, I think the community's enjoyment of the hobby is
maximized by giving people the choice of operating AM.

- Paul, N6LQ

"Bob Stein" wrote in message
...
Dan/W4NTI wrote:
There are lots of folks running the 'rice boxes'. I can attest by using
the
following rigs to got results.

Yaesu FT-101 series.
Kenwood Twins

Newer rigs such as the FT-1000MP does fine also, and the new Kenwood
TS-2000
sound good.

Running AM is fun, but you don't get the 'full effect' unless it smells
funny and once in a while catches fire.

"Real radios glow in the dark"

Dan/W4NTI

"Paul Clay" wrote in message
...

Do any of the solid state rigs from the mid-80s to present put out a
good AM signal? If so, which ones? Is the conventional wisdom true
that only by resurrecting a boatanchor tube transmitter can an operator
get a nice sounding AM signal?

Thanks!





It may be fun, but it is also inconsiderate unless on a little used
band. It takes up at least twice the spectrum of an SSB signal, and
possibly more - hardly necessary given crowded band conditions. Not to
mention the off-frequency heterodynes.

Just two cents worth from an old timer (licensed for nearly 65 years)
and brought up on AM.

Bob, W6NBI

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Remove spam-suppression X from my address

Your arguement is invalid. Considering modern day receivers with DSP, notch
filters, and crystal/DSP IF filters. You don't hear the other sideband, or
the carrier.....if you know how to use them that is.

Dan/W4NTI

On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 15:20:58 -0800, Bob Stein
wrote:







It may be fun, but it is also inconsiderate unless on a little used
band. It takes up at least twice the spectrum of an SSB signal, and
possibly more - hardly necessary given crowded band conditions. Not to
mention the off-frequency heterodynes.

Maybe so, but in my part of the country, there's a group that gets up
at 5 o'clock in the morning to run AM on 75 meters, and their fat
signals do little harm. Good to hear the old timers keeping alive some
of our ham heritage.

Bob
k5qwg


Just two cents worth from an old timer (licensed for nearly 65 years)
and brought up on AM.

Bob, W6NBI

"Dan/W4NTI" w4nti@get rid of this mindspring.com wrote in message
link.net...
There are lots of folks running the 'rice boxes'. I can attest by using
the
following rigs to got results.

Yaesu FT-101 series.
Kenwood Twins

Newer rigs such as the FT-1000MP does fine also, and the new Kenwood
TS-2000
sound good.

Running AM is fun, but you don't get the 'full effect' unless it smells
funny and once in a while catches fire.


Or get a nice arc from the PA plates to the cage (or, occasionally, the
operator.)

Dan/W4NTI wrote:
There are lots of folks running the 'rice boxes'. I can attest by using the
following rigs to got results.

Yaesu FT-101 series.
Kenwood Twins

Newer rigs such as the FT-1000MP does fine also, and the new Kenwood TS-2000
sound good.

Running AM is fun, but you don't get the 'full effect' unless it smells
funny and once in a while catches fire.

"Real radios glow in the dark"

Dan/W4NTI

"Paul Clay" wrote in message
...

Do any of the solid state rigs from the mid-80s to present put out a
good AM signal? If so, which ones? Is the conventional wisdom true
that only by resurrecting a boatanchor tube transmitter can an operator
get a nice sounding AM signal?

Thanks!





It may be fun, but it is also inconsiderate unless on a little used
band. It takes up at least twice the spectrum of an SSB signal, and
possibly more - hardly necessary given crowded band conditions. Not to
mention the off-frequency heterodynes.

Just two cents worth from an old timer (licensed for nearly 65 years)
and brought up on AM.

Bob, W6NBI

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