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Old January 7th 04, 12:46 AM
Murray Green, K3BEQ
 
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Thank you, however, I doubt very seriously any antenna is going to
last over 70 years. But appreciate your input. Best estimate I
received from those in the business of installing the antennas is
in the area of 15-20 years.

"Ed G." wrote:

Can any of you antenna pros out there tell me what would be the
expected life span for a Cell Wave 4 element vertical dipole?


1. Its "Celwave", not "Cell Wave". (Search also "RFS Celwave")

2. Celwave was formerly Phelps Dodge.

3. The model you want for 2 meters is the PD340-3.

4. A properly installed antenna with properly installed and sealed
feedlines will probably last longer than you.

Second question. I recognize that Cellwave has an excellent reputation.
Are there any other antenna companies that may compare or exceed
Cellwave antenna products in performance and durability?


Other comparable manufacturer are Andrew, Sinclair, and Decibel
Products. Quality is comparable amongst all.

Ed WB6SAT

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Old January 7th 04, 12:46 AM
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Thank you, however, I doubt very seriously any antenna is going to
last over 70 years. But appreciate your input. Best estimate I
received from those in the business of installing the antennas is
in the area of 15-20 years.

"Ed G." wrote:

Can any of you antenna pros out there tell me what would be the
expected life span for a Cell Wave 4 element vertical dipole?


1. Its "Celwave", not "Cell Wave". (Search also "RFS Celwave")

2. Celwave was formerly Phelps Dodge.

3. The model you want for 2 meters is the PD340-3.

4. A properly installed antenna with properly installed and sealed
feedlines will probably last longer than you.

Second question. I recognize that Cellwave has an excellent reputation.
Are there any other antenna companies that may compare or exceed
Cellwave antenna products in performance and durability?


Other comparable manufacturer are Andrew, Sinclair, and Decibel
Products. Quality is comparable amongst all.

Ed WB6SAT

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Old January 7th 04, 12:45 AM
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Thank you, however, I doubt very seriously any antenna is going to
last over 70 years. But appreciate your input. Best estimate I
received from those in the business of installing the antennas is
in the area of 15-20 years.

"Ed G." wrote:

Can any of you antenna pros out there tell me what would be the
expected life span for a Cell Wave 4 element vertical dipole?


1. Its "Celwave", not "Cell Wave". (Search also "RFS Celwave")

2. Celwave was formerly Phelps Dodge.

3. The model you want for 2 meters is the PD340-3.

4. A properly installed antenna with properly installed and sealed
feedlines will probably last longer than you.

Second question. I recognize that Cellwave has an excellent reputation.
Are there any other antenna companies that may compare or exceed
Cellwave antenna products in performance and durability?


Other comparable manufacturer are Andrew, Sinclair, and Decibel
Products. Quality is comparable amongst all.

Ed WB6SAT

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Old January 7th 04, 12:46 AM
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Thank you, however, I doubt very seriously any antenna is going to
last over 70 years. But appreciate your input. Best estimate I
received from those in the business of installing the antennas is
in the area of 15-20 years.

"Ed G." wrote:

Can any of you antenna pros out there tell me what would be the
expected life span for a Cell Wave 4 element vertical dipole?


1. Its "Celwave", not "Cell Wave". (Search also "RFS Celwave")

2. Celwave was formerly Phelps Dodge.

3. The model you want for 2 meters is the PD340-3.

4. A properly installed antenna with properly installed and sealed
feedlines will probably last longer than you.

Second question. I recognize that Cellwave has an excellent reputation.
Are there any other antenna companies that may compare or exceed
Cellwave antenna products in performance and durability?


Other comparable manufacturer are Andrew, Sinclair, and Decibel
Products. Quality is comparable amongst all.

Ed WB6SAT

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Old January 7th 04, 12:46 AM
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Thank you, however, I doubt very seriously any antenna is going to
last over 70 years. But appreciate your input. Best estimate I
received from those in the business of installing the antennas is
in the area of 15-20 years.

"Ed G." wrote:

Can any of you antenna pros out there tell me what would be the
expected life span for a Cell Wave 4 element vertical dipole?


1. Its "Celwave", not "Cell Wave". (Search also "RFS Celwave")

2. Celwave was formerly Phelps Dodge.

3. The model you want for 2 meters is the PD340-3.

4. A properly installed antenna with properly installed and sealed
feedlines will probably last longer than you.

Second question. I recognize that Cellwave has an excellent reputation.
Are there any other antenna companies that may compare or exceed
Cellwave antenna products in performance and durability?


Other comparable manufacturer are Andrew, Sinclair, and Decibel
Products. Quality is comparable amongst all.

Ed WB6SAT



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Old January 7th 04, 12:46 AM
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Thank you, however, I doubt very seriously any antenna is going to
last over 70 years. But appreciate your input. Best estimate I
received from those in the business of installing the antennas is
in the area of 15-20 years.

"Ed G." wrote:

Can any of you antenna pros out there tell me what would be the
expected life span for a Cell Wave 4 element vertical dipole?


1. Its "Celwave", not "Cell Wave". (Search also "RFS Celwave")

2. Celwave was formerly Phelps Dodge.

3. The model you want for 2 meters is the PD340-3.

4. A properly installed antenna with properly installed and sealed
feedlines will probably last longer than you.

Second question. I recognize that Cellwave has an excellent reputation.
Are there any other antenna companies that may compare or exceed
Cellwave antenna products in performance and durability?


Other comparable manufacturer are Andrew, Sinclair, and Decibel
Products. Quality is comparable amongst all.

Ed WB6SAT

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Old January 6th 04, 03:13 AM
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Can any of you antenna pros out there tell me what would be the
expected life span for a Cell Wave 4 element vertical dipole?


1. Its "Celwave", not "Cell Wave". (Search also "RFS Celwave")

2. Celwave was formerly Phelps Dodge.

3. The model you want for 2 meters is the PD340-3.

4. A properly installed antenna with properly installed and sealed
feedlines will probably last longer than you.


Second question. I recognize that Cellwave has an excellent reputation.
Are there any other antenna companies that may compare or exceed
Cellwave antenna products in performance and durability?


Other comparable manufacturer are Andrew, Sinclair, and Decibel
Products. Quality is comparable amongst all.


Ed WB6SAT
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Old January 9th 04, 01:51 AM
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On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 13:40:50 -0500, Murray Green, K3BEQ wrote:


Can any of you antenna pros out there tell me what would be the expected
life span for a Cell Wave 4 element vertical dipole? Do not have the
model number but the cost was close to $600 when purchased. The antenna
is cut for 2 meters. Realize that a number of factors can be involved
such as weather conditions, area installed etc. In this case it is up
80' off ground level and 300' above sea level just outside of WashDC.

Second question. I recognize that Cellwave has an excellent reputation.
Are there any other antenna companies that may compare or exceed
Cellwave antenna products in performance and durability?

Thanks.
73 Murray, K3BEQ


That antenna will need some service to achieve a long life. The problem is
when the Coax harness deteriorates with time, I would expect that you will
need to replace or repair the harness ever 10-20 years or so. Most
antennas of this class fail from physical damage. Lightening, Ice Damage,
Tower climbers. or something else that physically damages the antenna.

Others in the class are Decibel, Andrew, Sinclair, Kathrein - Scala,
Maxrad.

Ron
N5HYH
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Old January 9th 04, 03:41 AM
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Others in the class are Decibel, Andrew, Sinclair, Kathrein - Scala,
Maxrad.


Ron, personally, I would not include Maxrad in that class of quality.



Ed WB6SAT

(Never heard of Kathrein, so no comment on that one.)
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Old January 9th 04, 06:46 PM
Murray Green, K3BEQ
 
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***Thank you Ron. Since my initial message and responses here on the
newsgroup, coupled with "homework" we find that Celwave no longer makes
the 4 el vert dipole for the 2 meter spectrum. Nor do they make
replacement harnesses. Suspect drop in sales is the primary reason, but
not certain.

Looking seriously at Decibel's compatible antenna. We are however,
going to open up the Celwave, remove and inspect the harness and
if possible determine what went wrong. Possibility that there could
be damage from lightning which would be covered by our insurance
policy. Thanks again.
73, Murray, K3BEQ
=======================

Ron wrote:

On Mon, 05 Jan 2004 13:40:50 -0500, Murray Green, K3BEQ wrote:

Can any of you antenna pros out there tell me what would be the expected
life span for a Cell Wave 4 element vertical dipole? Do not have the
model number but the cost was close to $600 when purchased. The antenna
is cut for 2 meters. Realize that a number of factors can be involved
such as weather conditions, area installed etc. In this case it is up
80' off ground level and 300' above sea level just outside of WashDC.

Second question. I recognize that Cellwave has an excellent reputation.
Are there any other antenna companies that may compare or exceed
Cellwave antenna products in performance and durability?

Thanks.
73 Murray, K3BEQ


That antenna will need some service to achieve a long life. The problem is
when the Coax harness deteriorates with time, I would expect that you will
need to replace or repair the harness ever 10-20 years or so. Most
antennas of this class fail from physical damage. Lightening, Ice Damage,
Tower climbers. or something else that physically damages the antenna.

Others in the class are Decibel, Andrew, Sinclair, Kathrein - Scala,
Maxrad.

Ron
N5HYH



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