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Kirby in Colorado February 17th 04 01:48 PM

Try
http://www.kendoo.com/index.asp
I bought some batteries for an old Yaesu FT-411 at less than 1/2 of what
Yaesu wanted.
Kirby in Colorado
KC0QPS

"Steve Wolf" wrote in message
...
Can anyone suggest a source for the battery shown at
http://www.w8iz.com/ham/alinco/alinco%20battery.htm

I have two Alinco DJ-C5 radios that I use both at home for fun and at work
for monitoring business frequencies. I now need a new battery. Alinco
parts quotes the battery at $48.00. The radio is worth $150 new. The
battery represents one-third of the value of the radio.

The local and Internet ham radio battery shops do NOT have this battery.
Alternative ideas are also solicited. Obviously I don't want to carry a
bulky pack but even something less expensive that can be taped to the back
would be fine. For example, a Pentax L-LI8 pack (~$8.00!!!) could be

taped
to the back of the radio. That battery is shown at the bottom of the

page.
Where could I get a battery clip to allow me to easily install and remove
such a replacement? Another replacement was found on page 1130 of the
Mouser #617 catalog (part 521-7PN (at a cost of $6.72!!!)). It would fit
inside the case but would it charge properly?

I bet this Alinco battery is also used as a camera battery. The question

is
how to find it.

Thanks,
Steve, W8IZ






Steve Wolf February 17th 04 02:39 PM

There is some confusion. This battery pack isn't a plastic-encased slide-on
nickle cadium version containing individual cells. This is an internal
pack. It is lithium ion. You can't solder to it. It is encased in
stainless steel. On the other side it performs better. It lasts longer.
It is "better behaved" than Ni-Cads ... as long as you don't mess with it
.... then it blows up.

Good suggestions so far:
My own: The Pentax battery charged in the widely available Pentax charger.
The tabs are copper.
Andrew: A StarTac pack in a StarTac charger.

Although $50 for the pack is the best way, I can buy eight Pentax batteries
and a charger. For the same price I could throw seven of the Pentax
batteries away and still have one battery either way.

http:\\www.w8iz.com\ham\alinco\index.html

73,
Steve, W8IZ




Steve Wolf February 17th 04 02:39 PM

There is some confusion. This battery pack isn't a plastic-encased slide-on
nickle cadium version containing individual cells. This is an internal
pack. It is lithium ion. You can't solder to it. It is encased in
stainless steel. On the other side it performs better. It lasts longer.
It is "better behaved" than Ni-Cads ... as long as you don't mess with it
.... then it blows up.

Good suggestions so far:
My own: The Pentax battery charged in the widely available Pentax charger.
The tabs are copper.
Andrew: A StarTac pack in a StarTac charger.

Although $50 for the pack is the best way, I can buy eight Pentax batteries
and a charger. For the same price I could throw seven of the Pentax
batteries away and still have one battery either way.

http:\\www.w8iz.com\ham\alinco\index.html

73,
Steve, W8IZ




Dave Platt February 17th 04 10:29 PM

$ 45 is outragous for the battery pack when you can get 4 of the AA cells
and a charger for under $ 20.


That is one reason why I picked one digital camera over another brand.
It used AA cells instead of a more expensive battery pack.


Definitely a valid consideration. There's a lot to be said for
sticking with commodity power solutions, especially if you're into
emergency communications. Being able to refill your radio's power
pack with AA's from the local drugstore can be a big advantage under
adverse circumstances

On the other hand, lithium-ion batteries have a significant advantage
in terms of storage capacity per size and storage capacity per weight,
compared with NiCd cells and batteries. I believe they also win out
over NiMH - the margin is less but is still significant.

I have an Icom T2H which I won in a raffle. I also have a Yaesu VX-5,
with its pricey Li-ion battery. The T2H's battery holder, when
stocked with generic NiNH batteries, weights just about as much as the
whole VX-5 including power pack.

--
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I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will
boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads!

Dave Platt February 17th 04 10:29 PM

$ 45 is outragous for the battery pack when you can get 4 of the AA cells
and a charger for under $ 20.


That is one reason why I picked one digital camera over another brand.
It used AA cells instead of a more expensive battery pack.


Definitely a valid consideration. There's a lot to be said for
sticking with commodity power solutions, especially if you're into
emergency communications. Being able to refill your radio's power
pack with AA's from the local drugstore can be a big advantage under
adverse circumstances

On the other hand, lithium-ion batteries have a significant advantage
in terms of storage capacity per size and storage capacity per weight,
compared with NiCd cells and batteries. I believe they also win out
over NiMH - the margin is less but is still significant.

I have an Icom T2H which I won in a raffle. I also have a Yaesu VX-5,
with its pricey Li-ion battery. The T2H's battery holder, when
stocked with generic NiNH batteries, weights just about as much as the
whole VX-5 including power pack.

--
Dave Platt AE6EO
Hosting the Jade Warrior home page: http://www.radagast.org/jade-warrior
I do _not_ wish to receive unsolicited commercial email, and I will
boycott any company which has the gall to send me such ads!

Ralph Mowery February 17th 04 11:12 PM

In that light, $48 for a replacement is not that bad though still
expensive. Check the service manual (which is online), but I'd
consider the original replacement. I suspect you had plenty of lifetime
from the old battary.


$ 45 is outragous for the battery pack when you can get 4 of the AA cells
and a charger for under $ 20.
That is one reason why I picked one digital camera over another brand.
It used AA cells instead of a more expensive battery pack.



Ralph Mowery February 17th 04 11:12 PM

In that light, $48 for a replacement is not that bad though still
expensive. Check the service manual (which is online), but I'd
consider the original replacement. I suspect you had plenty of lifetime
from the old battary.


$ 45 is outragous for the battery pack when you can get 4 of the AA cells
and a charger for under $ 20.
That is one reason why I picked one digital camera over another brand.
It used AA cells instead of a more expensive battery pack.



Steve Wolf February 17th 04 11:40 PM

$ 45 is outragous for the battery pack when you can get 4 of the AA cells
and a charger for under $ 20.
That is one reason why I picked one digital camera over another brand.
It used AA cells instead of a more expensive battery pack.


That Pentax battery in the picture is the one that runs my tiny Pentax
Optio-S. I can get them on eBay for a couple bucks. I have a number of
batteries for it and they are cheaper than the AAs, last longer, and behave
better. I was also **VERY** concerned and figured that I was going to get
had on the batteries. I was pleasantly surprised. Even more so now that it
appears the Pentax batteries will be powering my Alinco radios.

Steve, W8IZ
www.w8iz.com/ham/alinco



Steve Wolf February 17th 04 11:40 PM

$ 45 is outragous for the battery pack when you can get 4 of the AA cells
and a charger for under $ 20.
That is one reason why I picked one digital camera over another brand.
It used AA cells instead of a more expensive battery pack.


That Pentax battery in the picture is the one that runs my tiny Pentax
Optio-S. I can get them on eBay for a couple bucks. I have a number of
batteries for it and they are cheaper than the AAs, last longer, and behave
better. I was also **VERY** concerned and figured that I was going to get
had on the batteries. I was pleasantly surprised. Even more so now that it
appears the Pentax batteries will be powering my Alinco radios.

Steve, W8IZ
www.w8iz.com/ham/alinco



Roger Gt February 18th 04 02:08 AM


"Steve Wolf" wrote in message
...
: $ 45 is outrageous for the battery pack when you can get 4 of
the AA cells
: and a charger for under $ 20.
: That is one reason why I picked one digital camera over
another brand.
: It used AA cells instead of a more expensive battery pack.
:
: That Pentax battery in the picture is the one that runs my tiny
Pentax
: Optio-S. I can get them on eBay for a couple bucks. I have a
number of
: batteries for it and they are cheaper than the AAs, last longer,
and behave
: better. I was also **VERY** concerned and figured that I was
going to get
: had on the batteries. I was pleasantly surprised. Even more so
now that it
: appears the Pentax batteries will be powering my Alinco radios.
:
: Steve, W8IZ
: www.w8iz.com/ham/alinco

So where can I get this battery for less than $0.36 ea (the cost
of an AA)????
Please!




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