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Old November 22nd 04, 08:13 PM
Joel Kolstad
 
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Default Icom IC-745 question (how does CW mode work?)

I've recently acquired an Icom IC-745 and I'm unclear on how it's supposed
to work in CW mode. It does receive in SSB and AM, so in general the
receiver appears to work. When I press the 'mode' button to get it to CW
mode, however, it's just... silent. Actually, if I turn up the audio gain,
there is some slight noise in the background. If I turn the squelch (close
to) all the way up, the green 'receive' LED will go out and there's no
detectable noise coming from the speaker.

Any idea what I might be doing wrong here? I was expected that there'd
still be some hissing (background noise) coming from the radio even in CW
mode?

Thanks,
---Joel Kolstad



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Old November 22nd 04, 11:48 PM
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It could be the filters. Unless an FL-52 or FL-53 455 khz filter is
installed, the radio doesn't work when switched to narrow. Take a
look at page 7-1 in the manual. It shows the various combinations of
filters, and which works when.

Dick - W6CCD

On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 12:13:38 -0800, "Joel Kolstad"
wrote:

I've recently acquired an Icom IC-745 and I'm unclear on how it's supposed
to work in CW mode. It does receive in SSB and AM, so in general the
receiver appears to work. When I press the 'mode' button to get it to CW
mode, however, it's just... silent. Actually, if I turn up the audio gain,
there is some slight noise in the background. If I turn the squelch (close
to) all the way up, the green 'receive' LED will go out and there's no
detectable noise coming from the speaker.

Any idea what I might be doing wrong here? I was expected that there'd
still be some hissing (background noise) coming from the radio even in CW
mode?

Thanks,
---Joel Kolstad



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Old November 23rd 04, 12:56 AM
Frank Krozel
 
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I agree the ex-owner probably ripped out the filter.
Frank KG9H
"Dick" LeadWinger wrote in message
...
It could be the filters. Unless an FL-52 or FL-53 455 khz filter is
installed, the radio doesn't work when switched to narrow. Take a
look at page 7-1 in the manual. It shows the various combinations of
filters, and which works when.

Dick - W6CCD

On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 12:13:38 -0800, "Joel Kolstad"
wrote:

I've recently acquired an Icom IC-745 and I'm unclear on how it's

supposed
to work in CW mode. It does receive in SSB and AM, so in general the
receiver appears to work. When I press the 'mode' button to get it to CW
mode, however, it's just... silent. Actually, if I turn up the audio

gain,
there is some slight noise in the background. If I turn the squelch

(close
to) all the way up, the green 'receive' LED will go out and there's no
detectable noise coming from the speaker.

Any idea what I might be doing wrong here? I was expected that there'd
still be some hissing (background noise) coming from the radio even in CW
mode?

Thanks,
---Joel Kolstad





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Old November 23rd 04, 04:04 AM
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"Frank Krozel" wrote:

I agree the ex-owner probably ripped out the filter.
Frank KG9H
"Dick" LeadWinger wrote in message
.. .
It could be the filters. Unless an FL-52 or FL-53 455 khz filter is
installed, the radio doesn't work when switched to narrow. Take a
look at page 7-1 in the manual. It shows the various combinations of
filters, and which works when.

Dick - W6CCD

On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 12:13:38 -0800, "Joel Kolstad"
wrote:

I've recently acquired an Icom IC-745 and I'm unclear on how it's

supposed
to work in CW mode. It does receive in SSB and AM, so in general the
receiver appears to work. When I press the 'mode' button to get it to CW
mode, however, it's just... silent. Actually, if I turn up the audio

gain,
there is some slight noise in the background. If I turn the squelch

(close
to) all the way up, the green 'receive' LED will go out and there's no
detectable noise coming from the speaker.

Any idea what I might be doing wrong here? I was expected that there'd
still be some hissing (background noise) coming from the radio even in CW
mode?

Thanks,
---Joel Kolstad


I agree also. You're probably missing the CW filter. However check your manual.
Every rig I've had with an optional CW filter had a way to route the CW mode
through the SSB filter if that filter was not installed, either by the menu or a
jumper.
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Old November 24th 04, 03:30 AM
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On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 04:04:45 GMT, AaronJ wrote:

"Frank Krozel" wrote:

I agree the ex-owner probably ripped out the filter.
Frank KG9H
"Dick" LeadWinger wrote in message
. ..
It could be the filters. Unless an FL-52 or FL-53 455 khz filter is
installed, the radio doesn't work when switched to narrow. Take a
look at page 7-1 in the manual. It shows the various combinations of
filters, and which works when.

Dick - W6CCD

On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 12:13:38 -0800, "Joel Kolstad"
wrote:

I've recently acquired an Icom IC-745 and I'm unclear on how it's

supposed
to work in CW mode. It does receive in SSB and AM, so in general the
receiver appears to work. When I press the 'mode' button to get it to CW
mode, however, it's just... silent. Actually, if I turn up the audio

gain,
there is some slight noise in the background. If I turn the squelch

(close
to) all the way up, the green 'receive' LED will go out and there's no
detectable noise coming from the speaker.

Any idea what I might be doing wrong here? I was expected that there'd
still be some hissing (background noise) coming from the radio even in CW
mode?

Thanks,
---Joel Kolstad


I agree also. You're probably missing the CW filter. However check your manual.
Every rig I've had with an optional CW filter had a way to route the CW mode
through the SSB filter if that filter was not installed, either by the menu or a
jumper.


Even if the CW filter is missing, he should be receiving CW through
the standard SSB filter.

Just switch to the "CW" mode, and make sure "CW narrow" isn't switched
in.

At least, that's the way my Icom 735 works. The 745 shouldn't be any
different.

Bob
k5qwg




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Old November 24th 04, 04:44 AM
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Bob Miller wrote:
Even if the CW filter is missing, he should be receiving CW through
the standard SSB filter.


Unless the filter was removed incorrectly by a previous owner. For example my
TS50 requires that a jumper board be put in place of the CW filter board if it
is removed. If the IC745 has such a jumper board, and it was not replaced after
a filter removal, then the CW mode might very well appear dead. Just a guess of
course.

Just switch to the "CW" mode, and make sure "CW narrow" isn't switched
in. At least, that's the way my Icom 735 works. The 745 shouldn't be any
different.


Or maybe it really is operator error as you suggest. Lets hope so...
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Old November 24th 04, 07:54 PM
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On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 03:30:18 GMT, Bob Miller
wrote:

On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 04:04:45 GMT, AaronJ wrote:

"Frank Krozel" wrote:

I agree the ex-owner probably ripped out the filter.
Frank KG9H
"Dick" LeadWinger wrote in message
...
It could be the filters. Unless an FL-52 or FL-53 455 khz filter is
installed, the radio doesn't work when switched to narrow. Take a
look at page 7-1 in the manual. It shows the various combinations of
filters, and which works when.

Dick - W6CCD

On Mon, 22 Nov 2004 12:13:38 -0800, "Joel Kolstad"
wrote:

I've recently acquired an Icom IC-745 and I'm unclear on how it's
supposed
to work in CW mode. It does receive in SSB and AM, so in general the
receiver appears to work. When I press the 'mode' button to get it to CW
mode, however, it's just... silent. Actually, if I turn up the audio
gain,
there is some slight noise in the background. If I turn the squelch
(close
to) all the way up, the green 'receive' LED will go out and there's no
detectable noise coming from the speaker.

Any idea what I might be doing wrong here? I was expected that there'd
still be some hissing (background noise) coming from the radio even in CW
mode?

Thanks,
---Joel Kolstad


I agree also. You're probably missing the CW filter. However check your manual.
Every rig I've had with an optional CW filter had a way to route the CW mode
through the SSB filter if that filter was not installed, either by the menu or a
jumper.


Even if the CW filter is missing, he should be receiving CW through
the standard SSB filter.

Just switch to the "CW" mode, and make sure "CW narrow" isn't switched
in.

At least, that's the way my Icom 735 works. The 745 shouldn't be any
different.

Bob
k5qwg

Make sure PBT and Filter are not switched. I remember some jumpers
that needed changing and that information was in the service manual,
might have been for the IC-740 though.

For PBT to work the IC-745 required both the 9 MHz and 455 kHz filters
be installed.

Seem to remember some stuff we did to get it to work with only one
filter but has been a long time since I looked into the IC-745 and CW
filter installation..
Worked at Icom America for 11 years supporting all products, left 3.5
years ago.

Gary K8IZ
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Old November 27th 04, 05:19 PM
Joel Kolstad
 
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"Bob Miller" wrote in message
news
Even if the CW filter is missing, he should be receiving CW through
the standard SSB filter.

Just switch to the "CW" mode, and make sure "CW narrow" isn't switched
in.


Thanks Bob, that works! So the problem was that the narrow filter is
missing. :-( Oh well; not that big of a deal.

Thanks to everyone for suggestions.

---Joel


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Bob Miller wrote:
Even if the CW filter is missing, he should be receiving CW through
the standard SSB filter.


Unless the filter was removed incorrectly by a previous owner. For example my
TS50 requires that a jumper board be put in place of the CW filter board if it
is removed. If the IC745 has such a jumper board, and it was not replaced after
a filter removal, then the CW mode might very well appear dead. Just a guess of
course.

Just switch to the "CW" mode, and make sure "CW narrow" isn't switched
in. At least, that's the way my Icom 735 works. The 745 shouldn't be any
different.


Or maybe it really is operator error as you suggest. Lets hope so...
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Old November 24th 04, 04:44 AM
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Bob Miller wrote:
Even if the CW filter is missing, he should be receiving CW through
the standard SSB filter.


Unless the filter was removed incorrectly by a previous owner. For example my
TS50 requires that a jumper board be put in place of the CW filter board if it
is removed. If the IC745 has such a jumper board, and it was not replaced after
a filter removal, then the CW mode might very well appear dead. Just a guess of
course.

Just switch to the "CW" mode, and make sure "CW narrow" isn't switched
in. At least, that's the way my Icom 735 works. The 745 shouldn't be any
different.


Or maybe it really is operator error as you suggest. Lets hope so...


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