"Woody" wrote in message
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You should really stop by your local terrorist group in Iraq and explain to
our Muslim extremist friends that we are in no way trying to convert them to
Christianity and that we have no intentions of converting to Muslim, so
there is really no problem here.
They'll understand.
rb

.........
Didn't you hear that Islam is a religion of peace? Heck, any Lib or C.A.I.R.
member can tell you that.
So what if they cut off a few heads here or there? So what they kill a few
of their daughters or wives in what they call Honor Killings. Heck, so what
if they cut off the fingers of their women who (gasp!) wear fingernail
polish? (there were more that 1,000 "honor killings" in Pakistan alone in
2005)
Yup...give em' an olive branch and tell em' you love em'. No problem. Then
they'll behead you.

Not Lloyd wrote:
"Woody" wrote in message
news:PjtIg.2047$pX3.667@trnddc07...
You should really stop by your local terrorist group in Iraq and explain to
our Muslim extremist friends that we are in no way trying to convert them to
Christianity and that we have no intentions of converting to Muslim, so
there is really no problem here.
They'll understand.
rb

........
Didn't you hear that Islam is a religion of peace? Heck, any Lib or C.A.I.R.
member can tell you that.
So what if they cut off a few heads here or there? So what they kill a few
of their daughters or wives in what they call Honor Killings. Heck, so what
if they cut off the fingers of their women who (gasp!) wear fingernail
polish? (there were more that 1,000 "honor killings" in Pakistan alone in
2005)
Yup...give em' an olive branch and tell em' you love em'. No problem. Then
they'll behead you.

And here you are whining instead of joining the military to fight them.

Not Cocksucker Lloyd wrote:
Not Lloyd wrote:
Yup...give em' an olive branch and tell em' you love em'. No problem. Then
they'll behead you.

And here you are whining instead of joining the military to fight them.
meltdown in progress

I'm going to reply to TWO of your posts at once............. "Woody"

"IF" the inspectors were to be believed, there was no WMD. But then again,
as proven - the intelligence may have been flawed. SO, who DO you believe?
WAR is a hell of a price to pay for a lie - regardless how started or
perpetuated.

Oppression? Can we "actually" believe that? Those groups couldn't smuggle
arms in - to try to break free of Saddam? His intelligence couldn't be any
better than ours and we know ours has cracks. Seems nothing else can be
believed. Going in - we've not done any better - there is more chaos there
now than ever. More killing and NOT by "our" hands. There isn't a day you
don't hear more have died - soldiers included - and usually by road side
bombs, cars or buses filled with them, people wearing them. We're doing
NOTHING to slow it down or stop it. Unlike some lame brain said, we did NOT
"need" this war. We should have let them live as they want to live. Who are
WE to shove democracy down their throats? They've lived that way for
centuries, why change now? As long as "WE" aren't being attacked, why the
hell should we give a damned. We wouldn't want THEM coming here to do that.
Oppression? Some could even suggest with our own civil liberties being taken
away - WE are being led in that direction to some degree.

Women and children? NO - by rights they should NOT be targets (popular
"moral" thinking) - BUT - times are changing. There have been "reports"
(believed or not) of women strapping bombs on themselves. And we know - that
kids here in the U.S. are getting braver and braver. Doing things unheard of
when we were kids. It has been said that the women and children in Viet Nam
were just as dangerous - if it is to be believed. Women here are getting
braver with crimes too. So.......... they're not so "stay at home - meek and
mild - dainty - mom types" - anymore.

I do NOT agree with war (unless attacked). BUT if you get into it by force
or otherwise, you may as well "FIGHT IT" like you mean it. There is no
backing down - then. We went in there bombs and missles firing. Hardly a
life lost (on our side). It was when we got into the towns when we started
losing them most - just as Saddam predicted. The enemy on the battlefield
was easy to spot. Once in towns - forget it - you're surrounded and have no
clue WHO they are or WHERE they are. If we hadn't backed off - this thing
may have been over - with less lives lost on our sides at least.

Back to Lame Brain......... if war is "needed" then lets twist it around to
make it more appreciated. IF we are attacked - then we NEED to go kick their
ass and do it good - no holds barred. Make them realize they screwed up by
doing so.

I find it interesting that MOST of our enemies have been "savages" in
actions......... Not giving a damned if it was man, woman or child. I find
it more interesting that we fight with kid gloves when it comes to finishing
the job RIGHT. The Government always starts the ****, but then takes pity
and pulls back the reins. THAT is when most of our people start getting
killed. Yep "Black Sabbath's" "WAR PIGS" fits ideally here.

L.





"Woody" wrote in message
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Yeah see, but you could've said it simpler as thus: oppression that's out
of sight and out of mind should be left that way. Who wants to lift a
finger in the name of righteousness, for Christ's sake? [haha... I made a
funny...]

Going into another country, [after giving them ample time and warning to
clean up the evidence], then booting out the murderous dictator and his
posse...? How selfishly unfair to the soft, fat and lazy tree-hugging US
citizens that believe in selfish unfairness! Doesn't our government
realize the number of chickens being murdered every day! And for what? A
casserole?!?!
Savages, I say! Another vote for packing up and moving to Somalia!
rb




"L." wrote in message
...
"Mike" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"L." wrote:

And just WHERE are those "Weapons of Mass Destruction" we went in there
to
find - the initial cause of the war? Seems to me, someone screwed up.
Either
our "intelligence" wasn't so freaking intelligent OR the man named
Bush -
LIED.

Since Congress saw the very same intelligence - and then voted for the
war - that means the intelligence wasn't so freaking intelligent!

If "Bush LIED" then all of Congress LIED also. Everyone seems to
conveniently forget this.

Mike

Whats to forget? THE WHOLE FREAKING THING WAS A LIE. Doesn't matter WHO
"started" it or "supported" it. FACT IS - we've got 2000 plus dead
soldiers now due to this LIE. A LIE IS A LIE IS A LIE - no matter how
started or allowed to go on. BUSH, CONGRESS, whoever - ALL are
responsible for this Travisty. THEY ALL have to accept blame - after all,
THEY are in command. AND if our so called intelligence isn't so
intelligent, then maybe we should look a tad harder before going into a
war. Hussien made an ass of all of them. Maybe he did wrong and he's on
trial now for it, but he WAS right!

L.

Woody wrote:
Yo Low! U related to Hu Flung Dung? You should change the spelling to Wun
Hung Low...
Anyway,
I bet they're hiding military secrets in there. Probably new stealth planes
and such. It would be so much better if we all
just opened up to each other and stopped hiding stuff from other countries!
It's only fair, you know.
How the heck is our enemy supposed to defend themselves if they don't know
what is coming next??
Stupid US cheaters.
Sheesh.



Huh? The topic was why the government was hiding the number of dead
bodies coming into Andrews. Why are you off on a tangent and being a
smart ass about stealth planes, SETI and Roswell? You are -evading- the
topic. Please stay focused and try and explain why the government is
hiding the number of dead bodies coming in. (and whatever does hiding
the number of dead bodies coming to Andrews have to do with letting the
enemy "know what's coming next")???

Anyway, thanks for demonstrating that you are not the brightest bulb in
the box.

Sheesh.


PS: Then again, I heard on the SETI site that they may have moved the
Roswell debris and bodies to Andrews, and anyone trying to take pics would
get all those funny lines and crap in the film, caused by all the space
radiation and stuff....
So in order to maintain control on the civilian film stock and keep from
wasting it, the government has a secret
plan to stop all photography within the next 20 years anyway.

Woody wrote:

But the Belkans? What about the Belkans?? They've been at war for years and
no one really notices...
rb

Maybe nobody notices because they didn't turn into another Viet Nam type
of fiasco.

....and the "Belkans"??? You wouldn't mean the Balkans, would you??? But
thanks anyway for illustrating yet again that you're not the brightest
bulb in the box...

One Hung Low wrote:
Woody wrote:

But the Belkans? What about the Belkans?? They've been at war for years and
no one really notices...
rb

Maybe nobody notices because they didn't turn into another Viet Nam type
of fiasco.

...and the "Belkans"??? You wouldn't mean the Balkans, would you??? But
thanks anyway for illustrating yet again that you're not the brightest
bulb in the box...

My Daleks will EXTERMINATE you! K?

Lloyd Davies N0VFP
Time Lord

There people go again... a whole novel that can be summed up in a simple
pathetic sentence:

"I just don't want to get involved"

An old and tired cliche for the selfish and foolish that can't do CW.

I bet if you could do 20wpm CW, you would feel differently.
Please help out President Bush, Iraq and the USA by studying code.

Just say Doh! CW saves lives!
thanks,
rb

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"L." wrote in message
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"L." wrote in message
...
wrote in message
...
On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 23:28:30 -0400, "L." wrote:

"Mike" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"L." wrote:

And just WHERE are those "Weapons of Mass Destruction" we went in
there
to
find - the initial cause of the war? Seems to me, someone screwed up.
Either
our "intelligence" wasn't so freaking intelligent OR the man named
Bush -
LIED.

Since Congress saw the very same intelligence - and then voted for the
war - that means the intelligence wasn't so freaking intelligent!

If "Bush LIED" then all of Congress LIED also. Everyone seems to
conveniently forget this.

Mike

Whats to forget? THE WHOLE FREAKING THING WAS A LIE. Doesn't matter WHO
"started" it or "supported" it. FACT IS - we've got 2000 plus dead
soldiers
now due to this LIE. A LIE IS A LIE IS A LIE - no matter how started or
allowed to go on. BUSH, CONGRESS, whoever - ALL are responsible for this
Travisty. THEY ALL have to accept blame - after all, THEY are in
command.
AND if our so called intelligence isn't so intelligent, then maybe we
should
look a tad harder before going into a war. Hussien made an ass of all of
them. Maybe he did wrong and he's on trial now for it, but he WAS right!
saddam was never right

as it happens the documents clearly indiacate that his general were
lead to believe theyhad WMD's and we tapped there phone at varioustime

Saddam thought if he could covince us he had WMD's we would not attack

he was wrong

but saddam was a lyiar for being wrong nor was intel nor the pres or
the congress

OTOH when I voted for Bush in 2000 I was voting for war with Iraq
before 9/11 I felt saddam had to be taken out the congress and
President Clinton agreed with me ut did nothing

so I would not care if you could prove that the WMD stuff was nothing
but a langley fake up to force a war , a war was what we needed and
sooner rather than later. Indeed iwas hoping for war in jan 2002
before 9/11 occoured my beef with bush is that he waitied so long

L.

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No - Saddam was "right" - I'm referring to his description of another
Viet nam for US. He was right on the money. It has been a very close
call - maybe not in all ways, but with the way it is dragging on and our
people getting killed. IT IS POINTLESS. Those ass holes down there have
been fighting for hundreds or thousands of years, do you REALLY think WE
are going to bring peace there in a couple? HELL NO. THIS WAR didn't have
to be. AGAIN - when DADDY BUSH was in power - had he allowed Norman to
finish the job, Saddam wouldn't have had this second go round. So -
BUSHES ****ed up.......... 9/11 wasn't done by Saddam, it was done by a
low life - yellow bellied - son of a bitch with vacuum lips from sucking
too many dongs - who hides in caves - gutless to come out in the open. I
WILL give Bush credit for NOT hiding. Maybe Saddam was doing wrong in
some views = far be it from me to say he was doing right, but he seemed
to be keeping control - right or wrong. You didn't have all this bull
**** there is now - with all of them fighting each other. The Kurds,
Shiites, and whoever else it is. We have to be crazy to think WE are
going to solve that mess. it hasn't worked in a year - so tell me - just
HOW many more years should we stay there and how many more have to die
for it? IF you like that "war" so much, why don't YOU volunteer?

Oh and the WMD - Since we went in under false pretenses of him having
them, just what the hell do you think we would have done with definate
finds? THE SAME DAMNED THING! So HIS threats 0r ploys didn't do a damned
thing. THEY AGREED WITH YOU? GIVE ME A BREAK.............. They don't
agree with US. YOU AND I are peons in their eyes, they don't give a ****
what WE think. All we're good for is paying for their damned
perks.......... and dying for their causes.

WE NEEDED A WAR? Man that is one sick thought........... what the ****
are you smoking?

L.

Saddam may have been doing wrong by his actions (going according to the bs
fed to us) - but even with keeping them suppressed - however it was done -
he did have control. We took him out of power and all hell has broken
loose and we have ZERO ideas for ending it or getting the hell out. Now WE
are stuck with the mess WE created by going in and sticking our nose where
it didn't belong. I'm willing to bet, though his ass is in the sling now -
he is laughing his ass off knowing what we have to deal with. Unless we
can clean this mess up - HE WON. IF we were "just" fighting the Al-Quaida,
that is one thing. But - we're fighting them, and the other 3 (the Sunni's
I forgot before); they're fighting amongst each other for power and
fighting us as well for now being there. WE ARE IN A HORNETS NEST AND IT
IS ACTIVATED. Those desert rats don't play by rules. Unfortunately, we
do....... If you're going to fight a war - FIGHT IT with all you have. You
have no time to be picking and choosing who you'll shoot or not. IT IS
KILL OR BE KILLED. OUR people having to play by the rules are getting
killed.

SO, again I ask you - we "needed" this war? Have YOU ever been in the
military? Do you serve in any other capacity in the name of "Defense"? I
have been and I DO. A few of my friends and relatives have been to Iraq -
a couple still are there, one is still in Afghanistan - has been for 2
years - minus a 30 day break. SO don't go spouting off about how we needed
this war. THAT IS AS SICK AS YOU CAN GET. Say that to the parents,
husbands, wives, Children old enough to understand who they've lost - of
those who have lost family to this mockery.

Again, I SUPPORT the troops, I DO NOT support the ****ing lie that put
them there. YES, they are trained to fight and accept they may be killed.
But again, this was for NOTHING.

I see you picked on quite a bit in here, NOW I KNOW WHY............ Cease
and Desist you say? You ought to take your own advice and keep your mouth
shut of things you are clueless about. You made your bed, now you have to
lay in it. They've got your number. The best way for you to get them to
stop - is to stop yourself. Apparently you've not learned that.

IF you're young enough, why not prove you're a real man - volunteer to go
fight that war that you feel we "needed". DO THAT and maybe you'll have
some credibility. IF you can't do that - then don't spout off with us as
to what we "needed". WE don't need the likes of you deciding whether a war
is needed. Hell, you can't even win a battle on here without crying foul
and you think you can conceive a reason for a useless war?
Hahahahaha....................

Tell me - if Bush was so RIGHT - how come his popularity dipped to below
50%? It may have risen since then, I'm not up on the last reading, but THE
WAR CAUSED IT TO DIP. People are tired of IT and being lied to about it.
And to answer a point the other guy made - YES - ALL of them ought to be
held accountable. BUT in this case, since the poll is only about Bush, I'm
using him as the example. Bush isn't the only one at fault here, but HE
had a choice to make and he made it - A BAD ONE - for Iraq. I WILL agree
with Afghanistan since those ass holes were into the 9/11 deal. We should
have finished THAT first if we "needed" to get into another. WE're spread
pretty thin and if N. Korea and Iran decide to start acting up, maybe even
the likes of you will be drafted to help fight those wars........... I'm
glad I don't live close to you - I'd hate to smell the **** which will be
running down your legs if you are drafted. Tell the draft board to cease
and desist...... HAHAHAHA..........
Are you going to tell the N. Koreans or Iranians aiming guns at you to
cease and desist? ROFLMAO.............

Go away little boy.............. We're not playing with little plastic
soldiers who can come back for another war time after time after time.
REAL LIVES are being lost for NOTHING................ Oh yeah, I'd LOVE to
see you tell those survivors we "needed" this war....... Man, you'd be
tarred and feathered in a heart beat.

L.

Inevitable is the word you're looking for...


rb

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"David" wrote in message
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On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 00:35:44 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 23:28:30 -0400, "L." wrote:

so I would not care if you could prove that the WMD stuff was nothing
but a langley fake up to force a war , a war was what we needed and
sooner rather than later. Indeed iwas hoping for war in jan 2002
before 9/11 occoured my beef with bush is that he waitied so long

War is insane. We can no longer afford such madness.

War is insane.
it is insane but sometimetime the only sane response to insaity is
more insanity



I'm doing the best I can brother... hang in there.
rb


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