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Old September 11th 03, 07:31 AM
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Why do they all rely upon the kernels AX.25 ?
Kiss mode is limited to packet radio (at least with
the TNC's that I've got) and why would I want to run
packet radio on hf ? Pactor is better for hf and that
means I can't use any of all those "terminals" that
really rely upon the kernels ax.25 to do all the work.
Why pay lots of money for a competent controller and
then make it really stupid by using kiss ?

73 de Per / SM0RWO

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Hello!!
I am looking for "Graphics Packet for Linux" application.



Hi,

what about LinKT ?`

http://1409.linkt.de/projects/linkt/

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Why do they all rely upon the kernels AX.25 ?
Kiss mode is limited to packet radio (at least with
the TNC's that I've got) and why would I want to run
packet radio on hf ? Pactor is better for hf and that
means I can't use any of all those "terminals" that
really rely upon the kernels ax.25 to do all the work.
Why pay lots of money for a competent controller and
then make it really stupid by using kiss ?


A lot of the Linux stuff is like that. When you wander away from the
mainstream, this is to be expected. Part of the problem is that most
software for Linux is open source, written by junior programmer wannabees,
then re-hacked by other "programmers" who are no better.

.... So the third-weenie OS is loaded up with third-weenie software.... Is
that a big surprise?

If you really wanted performance, you'd be going with #1.

Charles Brabham, N5PVL


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Old September 11th 03, 04:02 PM
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In rec.radio.amateur.misc charlesb wrote:
A lot of the Linux stuff is like that. When you wander away from the
mainstream, this is to be expected. Part of the problem is that most
software for Linux is open source, written by junior programmer wannabees,
then re-hacked by other "programmers" who are no better.


... So the third-weenie OS is loaded up with third-weenie software.... Is
that a big surprise?


You don't quite "get" open-source, do you?!

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In rec.radio.amateur.misc charlesb wrote:
A lot of the Linux stuff is like that. When you wander away from the
mainstream, this is to be expected. Part of the problem is that most
software for Linux is open source, written by junior programmer wannabees,
then re-hacked by other "programmers" who are no better.


... So the third-weenie OS is loaded up with third-weenie software.... Is
that a big surprise?


You don't quite "get" open-source, do you?!

--
Chris Cox, N0UK/G4JEC NIC Handle: CC345
UnitedHealthGroup, Inc., MN10-W116, UNIX Services & Consulting
6300 Olson Memorial Highway, Golden Valley, MN 55427
email: (work) (home)
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"Pär C" wrote in message
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Why do they all rely upon the kernels AX.25 ?
Kiss mode is limited to packet radio (at least with
the TNC's that I've got) and why would I want to run
packet radio on hf ? Pactor is better for hf and that
means I can't use any of all those "terminals" that
really rely upon the kernels ax.25 to do all the work.
Why pay lots of money for a competent controller and
then make it really stupid by using kiss ?


A lot of the Linux stuff is like that. When you wander away from the
mainstream, this is to be expected. Part of the problem is that most
software for Linux is open source, written by junior programmer wannabees,
then re-hacked by other "programmers" who are no better.

.... So the third-weenie OS is loaded up with third-weenie software.... Is
that a big surprise?

If you really wanted performance, you'd be going with #1.

Charles Brabham, N5PVL




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Pär C wrote:

Why do they all rely upon the kernels AX.25 ?
Kiss mode is limited to packet radio (at least with
the TNC's that I've got) and why would I want to run
packet radio on hf ? Pactor is better for hf and that
means I can't use any of all those "terminals" that
really rely upon the kernels ax.25 to do all the work.
Why pay lots of money for a competent controller and
then make it really stupid by using kiss ?


They don't.

If you have a PTC data controller then take a look at kptc.
It's a KDE (X-windows) client to drive a PTC in just the way that you want.

You can find it at: http://kptc.sourceforge.net/

I found it by looking at: http://radio.linux.org.au/

regards
Terry

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Pär C wrote:


Why do they all rely upon the kernels AX.25 ?
Kiss mode is limited to packet radio (at least with
the TNC's that I've got) and why would I want to run
packet radio on hf ? Pactor is better for hf and that
means I can't use any of all those "terminals" that
really rely upon the kernels ax.25 to do all the work.
Why pay lots of money for a competent controller and
then make it really stupid by using kiss ?



They don't.

If you have a PTC data controller then take a look at kptc.
It's a KDE (X-windows) client to drive a PTC in just the way that you want.

You can find it at: http://kptc.sourceforge.net/

I found it by looking at: http://radio.linux.org.au/

regards
Terry


Thank you for for the info !
Unfortunately I haven't got a PTC, I've got a PK-232MBX/DSP and an
MFJ-1278. There are no terminals for these, none that I know of
anyway, so I'm building one in kylix. Unfortunately async pro clx
that I'm using seems to have unresolved issues, it tries to free
unallocated memory upon termination and crashes. I'm looking into
building it in python instead but I'll have to learn python first.

regards
per / sm0rwo


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Terry Dawson wrote:
Pär C wrote:


Why do they all rely upon the kernels AX.25 ?
Kiss mode is limited to packet radio (at least with
the TNC's that I've got) and why would I want to run
packet radio on hf ? Pactor is better for hf and that
means I can't use any of all those "terminals" that
really rely upon the kernels ax.25 to do all the work.
Why pay lots of money for a competent controller and
then make it really stupid by using kiss ?



They don't.

If you have a PTC data controller then take a look at kptc.
It's a KDE (X-windows) client to drive a PTC in just the way that you want.

You can find it at: http://kptc.sourceforge.net/

I found it by looking at: http://radio.linux.org.au/

regards
Terry


Thank you for for the info !
Unfortunately I haven't got a PTC, I've got a PK-232MBX/DSP and an
MFJ-1278. There are no terminals for these, none that I know of
anyway, so I'm building one in kylix. Unfortunately async pro clx
that I'm using seems to have unresolved issues, it tries to free
unallocated memory upon termination and crashes. I'm looking into
building it in python instead but I'll have to learn python first.

regards
per / sm0rwo


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Pär C wrote:

Why do they all rely upon the kernels AX.25 ?
Kiss mode is limited to packet radio (at least with
the TNC's that I've got) and why would I want to run
packet radio on hf ? Pactor is better for hf and that
means I can't use any of all those "terminals" that
really rely upon the kernels ax.25 to do all the work.
Why pay lots of money for a competent controller and
then make it really stupid by using kiss ?


They don't.

If you have a PTC data controller then take a look at kptc.
It's a KDE (X-windows) client to drive a PTC in just the way that you want.

You can find it at: http://kptc.sourceforge.net/

I found it by looking at: http://radio.linux.org.au/

regards
Terry

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