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Old August 9th 03, 12:19 AM
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Dr. Anton Squeegee wrote:
In article , Mark V. Russo says...


Power has nothing really to do with it to make it legal.



I beg to differ. FRS is, by FCC regulation, limited to a maximum
of 500mW ERP, and an antenna that is fixed/non-modifiable. Any
transmitter above that power level on FRS frequencies is very much
illegal.


That is actually not correct. GMRS licensees routinely use 5w on many
FRS frequencies. See http://www.gmrsweb.com/gmrsinter.html



Any ham radio is not FCC type accepted to transmit on FRS.


That is true.

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Dr. Anton Squeegee wrote:
In article , Mark V. Russo says...


Power has nothing really to do with it to make it legal.



I beg to differ. FRS is, by FCC regulation, limited to a maximum
of 500mW ERP, and an antenna that is fixed/non-modifiable. Any
transmitter above that power level on FRS frequencies is very much
illegal.


That is actually not correct. GMRS licensees routinely use 5w on many
FRS frequencies. See http://www.gmrsweb.com/gmrsinter.html



Any ham radio is not FCC type accepted to transmit on FRS.


That is true.

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That is actually not correct. GMRS licensees routinely use 5w on many
FRS frequencies. See http://www.gmrsweb.com/gmrsinter.html


No, GMRS uses 5W on GMRS frequencies that happen to be
SHARED with FRS. The radios that cover both the GMRS unique
and FRS unique frequencies will ONLY use FRS power levels on
the FRS unique frequencies.

Mike


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Old August 10th 03, 02:02 AM
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That is actually not correct. GMRS licensees routinely use 5w on many
FRS frequencies. See http://www.gmrsweb.com/gmrsinter.html


No, GMRS uses 5W on GMRS frequencies that happen to be
SHARED with FRS. The radios that cover both the GMRS unique
and FRS unique frequencies will ONLY use FRS power levels on
the FRS unique frequencies.

Mike


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Old August 10th 03, 02:50 AM
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that is a common misconception, most retail place sell what they call frs
when if fact the are gmrs..but correct you are .... gmrs channel 1 thru 7
are used as gmrs radio. with a diffrent deveiation that is why frs does not
sound as good a gmrs radio.
"Mike Yetsko" wrote in message
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That is actually not correct. GMRS licensees routinely use 5w on many
FRS frequencies. See http://www.gmrsweb.com/gmrsinter.html


No, GMRS uses 5W on GMRS frequencies that happen to be
SHARED with FRS. The radios that cover both the GMRS unique
and FRS unique frequencies will ONLY use FRS power levels on
the FRS unique frequencies.

Mike






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Old August 10th 03, 02:50 AM
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that is a common misconception, most retail place sell what they call frs
when if fact the are gmrs..but correct you are .... gmrs channel 1 thru 7
are used as gmrs radio. with a diffrent deveiation that is why frs does not
sound as good a gmrs radio.
"Mike Yetsko" wrote in message
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That is actually not correct. GMRS licensees routinely use 5w on many
FRS frequencies. See http://www.gmrsweb.com/gmrsinter.html


No, GMRS uses 5W on GMRS frequencies that happen to be
SHARED with FRS. The radios that cover both the GMRS unique
and FRS unique frequencies will ONLY use FRS power levels on
the FRS unique frequencies.

Mike




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Old August 10th 03, 07:02 PM
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Mike Yetsko wrote:

That is actually not correct. GMRS licensees routinely use 5w on many
FRS frequencies. See http://www.gmrsweb.com/gmrsinter.html



No, GMRS uses 5W on GMRS frequencies that happen to be
SHARED with FRS. The radios that cover both the GMRS unique
and FRS unique frequencies will ONLY use FRS power levels on
the FRS unique frequencies.

Mike



Well, if you want to put a fine point on it, FRS actually shares the
GMRS frequencies, not the other way around. GMRS is the primary user.
FRS must not cause, and must accept, any interference with GMRS.
Obviously, if a transmitter uses a frequency that is not a allocated for
GMRS, then it must use power settings that are appropriate for that
particular service.

All the best, and 73,
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Mike Yetsko wrote:

That is actually not correct. GMRS licensees routinely use 5w on many
FRS frequencies. See http://www.gmrsweb.com/gmrsinter.html



No, GMRS uses 5W on GMRS frequencies that happen to be
SHARED with FRS. The radios that cover both the GMRS unique
and FRS unique frequencies will ONLY use FRS power levels on
the FRS unique frequencies.

Mike



Well, if you want to put a fine point on it, FRS actually shares the
GMRS frequencies, not the other way around. GMRS is the primary user.
FRS must not cause, and must accept, any interference with GMRS.
Obviously, if a transmitter uses a frequency that is not a allocated for
GMRS, then it must use power settings that are appropriate for that
particular service.

All the best, and 73,
Dave KZ1O

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Old August 12th 03, 08:32 PM
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In emergencies, all restrictions are null and void.

Else one is condoning death an/or dismemberment because of 'man-made'
regulations.

I bet if your life were on the line you'd voluntarily give it up so as
not to violate the 'man-made' regulations. N'est ce pas?

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Old August 12th 03, 08:32 PM
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In emergencies, all restrictions are null and void.

Else one is condoning death an/or dismemberment because of 'man-made'
regulations.

I bet if your life were on the line you'd voluntarily give it up so as
not to violate the 'man-made' regulations. N'est ce pas?

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