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JAMES SHAFFER wiped his
nose with his yarmulke and hissed: ---On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 21:40:38 GMT, (DooDahMan) wrote: ---So this asshole cop pulls me over today and starts asking me why have ---scanner in my car. ****e mate you u live in a police state! you need to be liberated ! |
Get a copy of the New Jersey Police Manual. They are approx. $30.00 from
http://www.gannlaw.com/ If you can't the prosecutor (NJ does not use the term District Attorney) is obligated to let you use his /hers in your defense. You should just be able to quote the state statute. The cop was probably trying to just give you a hard time figuring you don't know the law. I doubt the officer will pursue this further. 73 Bob, K2NNJ |
"DooDahMan" wrote in message ... What should I do? I know for a fact that it's not illegal and this asshole harrassed me just cuz he was bored i suppose. First, speak with some lawyers and the prosecutor/district attorney. If you find you are in the right, then I would see if it's legal for you to record everything. File a complaint against the cop and if they call you, record what they say. They could come and lock you up, and then you could end up with a nice nest egg. |
"RHF" wrote in message om... DDM, States have to demonstrate that they are 'enforcing' the "Seat Belt" Laws or the Federal Government can cut certain Highway and Transportation Funding that is 'tied' to "Safer Highways" Thank You Jimmy Carter ! = Another Big Brother, = = Big Government Idea ! = = = Form the Democrats [.] And we can thank Mr. Reagan for blackmailing the states in a similar fashion to raise the drinking age to 21.. I'm not certain that Carter had anything much to do with the federal seatbelt mandate, but he had his own boondoggles.. the 55mph speed limit, the banning of decorative gaslights, etc. during the Arab oil embargo, and our own oil companies claiming we were dangerously short on reserves so that they could gouge us at the pumps (at least Carter's Attorney General made them give some of it back in the form of free gas). Doesn't matter anyway which party pushes this stuff.... it's BS. The federal government has been strongarming states to do their bidding for years.. wonder what the next unfunded mandate will be?? |
Brenda Ann wrote: "RHF" wrote in message om... DDM, States have to demonstrate that they are 'enforcing' the "Seat Belt" Laws or the Federal Government can cut certain Highway and Transportation Funding that is 'tied' to "Safer Highways" Thank You Jimmy Carter ! = Another Big Brother, = = Big Government Idea ! = = = Form the Democrats [.] And we can thank Mr. Reagan for blackmailing the states in a similar fashion to raise the drinking age to 21.. I'm not certain that Carter had anything much to do with the federal seatbelt mandate, but he had his own boondoggles.. the 55mph speed limit, the banning of decorative gaslights, etc. during the Arab oil embargo, and our own oil companies claiming we were dangerously short on reserves so that they could gouge us at the pumps (at least Carter's Attorney General made them give some of it back in the form of free gas). Doesn't matter anyway which party pushes this stuff.... it's BS. The federal government has been strongarming states to do their bidding for years.. wonder what the next unfunded mandate will be?? Well I sure hope that it's Log Periodic antennas (a whole set of em!) for every short-wave DXer out there. And the big chunk of property to put 'em on too. And of course maintainence will be done at the cost of the taxp...... er... Government too! |
"N8KDV" wrote in message ... Doesn't matter anyway which party pushes this stuff.... it's BS. The federal government has been strongarming states to do their bidding for years.. wonder what the next unfunded mandate will be?? Well I sure hope that it's Log Periodic antennas (a whole set of em!) for every short-wave DXer out there. And the big chunk of property to put 'em on too. And of course maintainence will be done at the cost of the taxp...... er... Government too! Hey, that works for me. Every time I drive onto Kunsan AB and see the huge log periodic antenna they have there, I get all envious.. |
On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 18:47:12 -0500, ex-patBrit
wrote: ****e mate you u live in a police state! you need to be liberated ! True, NJ /is/ a police state. Took a road trip a couple of years ago, drove almost 6000 miles around the midwest and northwest USA, saw maybe three speed traps the whole time. On the final leg through NJ heading back into NYC, counted over TWENTY speed traps. And those are just the ones that didn't bother hiding. And remember, NJ is one of those places where DWB is a felony offense. (Driving While Black, for the uninitiated). I've boycotted New Jersey. Pick up your scanner and move somewhere that the police don't act like stormtroopers. |
And they will plant dope in your car if your not nice to them.
I refuse to drive in the state with New York plates. Yeas ago I was stopped on the Palisades Pkwy in Alpine for a tire presser test. The cop said the tires have to much wear and said: "you cant drive garbage through the streets here" They impounded my 68 Chevy van and slashed the 2 front tires, handed me an unsafe vehicle ticket and told me start walking ......waiving nightsticks -RP "Joe User" wrote: True, NJ /is/ a police state. Took a road trip a couple of years ago, drove almost 6000 miles around the midwest and northwest USA, saw maybe three speed traps the whole time. On the final leg through NJ heading back into NYC, counted over TWENTY speed traps. And those are just the ones that didn't bother hiding. And remember, NJ is one of those places where DWB is a felony offense. (Driving While Black, for the uninitiated). I've boycotted New Jersey. Pick up your scanner and move somewhere that the police don't act like stormtroopers. |
"core_dump" wrote in message
. 3.44... (DooDahMan) wrote in : Wasn't this exact message posted once before? It seems awfully familiar. Absolutely it was. By a RedXIII: http://www.google.com/groups?q=g:thl...0comcast.c om This troll who has now assumed my identity , obviously has mistaken me for some cop hating maggot. And everyone here is still stupid enough to fall for it. |
DooDahMan wrote:
Go **** yourself doc. I think I see why the cop may have been a little rude. Could you attitude have had something to do with it maybe? |
On Sun, 7 Dec 2003, Stinger wrote:
That's a shame. Well, the first thing to do is wait thirty days so you won't have two charges to defend (bogus or not, it will take up your time if he's provoked into filing the charge). After that, my suggestion would be to ask your local District Attorney for an opinion on your radio (he'll appreciate the links, or better yet-- a hard copy), and get his favorable reply in writing. (You may end up with an Assistant DA, but they will accommodate you if you persist.) What the DA thinks doesn't matter. See FCC ruling 93-17, which dealt with amateur radio equipment which could RX public safety frequencies. Once the feds rule, local jurisdictions don't have a choice. Keep the letter with your insurance certificate and registration handy in your glove compartment, just in case you forget to buckle-up again. What I didn't see in the original post was whether or not the driver WAS wearing a seat belt or not.... |
On Sun, 7 Dec 2003, Jim Shaffer, Jr. wrote:
[Scanner post text deleted] Well, what do you expect from someone so ****ing stupid that he can live with himself for enforcing seatbelt laws? Victimless crimes should be abolished. The "people" enforcing such laws are robots, not human beings. Since when is that a "victimless" crime? Jerk not wearing a seat-belt gets involved in an accident (his fault or not; doesn't matter) - and sues the other driver for the aggravation of his injuries (which could have been avoided or certainly lessened if a seat belt had been worn). Insurance company raises rates on ALL customers due to the litigation (even if their insured is not at fault - because of the "general statistics" of more serious accidents in the area). Unless you can show me that ONLY the rates of the non-seat-belt-wearer are affected, then there are victims other than the perp. of your "victimless" crime.... |
"DSL" wrote in news:i2XAb.9736
: What county (Specifically what city) did this happen in ???? It didn't happen anywhere, this whole thread is based on a bogus story that showed up in April. It's troll bait. The OP even includes himself in the his moron list, reread the original message. The OP is just a cross-posting dumbass sheep shagger who has a hardon for some of the radio groups. Search google groups using this criteria: asshole cop group:*.scanner -- You are a fluke of the Universe You have no right to be here And whether you can hear it or not, the Universe is laughing behind your back |
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TROLL ALERT
This is the same troll that posted the FALSE message a couple years ago about having his scanner in a department store. He heard security watching someone else, warned that someone else, and got his butt whipped by security for doing so. I WISH IT REALLY HAPPENED!!! TROLL ALERT On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 09:25:55 GMT, Lord Floyd wrote: "DSL" wrote in news:i2XAb.9736 : What county (Specifically what city) did this happen in ???? It didn't happen anywhere, this whole thread is based on a bogus story that showed up in April. It's troll bait. The OP even includes himself in the his moron list, reread the original message. The OP is just a cross-posting dumbass sheep shagger who has a hardon for some of the radio groups. Search google groups using this criteria: asshole cop group:*.scanner |
In article , says...
big snip Go **** yourself doc. Oh, such an intelligent, well-thought-out response! I think I've found another entry for my Usenet filter file. *PLONK!* -- Dr. Anton Squeegee, Director, Dutch Surrealist Plumbing Institute (Known to some as Bruce Lane, KC7GR) kyrrin a/t bluefeathertech d-o=t c&o&m Motorola Radio Programming & Service Available - http://www.bluefeathertech.com/rf.html "Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati" (Red Green) |
Midwest Kid wrote: "DooDahMan" wrote in message ... What should I do? I know for a fact that it's not illegal and this asshole harrassed me just cuz he was bored i suppose. First, speak with some lawyers and the prosecutor/district attorney. If you find you are in the right, then I would see if it's legal for you to record everything. File a complaint against the cop and if they call you, record what they say. They could come and lock you up, and then you could end up with a nice nest egg. Let's get real and stop the BS. The police are not going to lock anyone up for having a scanner in their vehicle of not having the belt on. That's the most stupid thing I have read. You most likely was stopped to for NOT being buckled up. Most states require some other violation before they can use the belt laws. The scanner was just an after thought when the officer seen it. The majority of police (citizens) know nothing about radio/scanner laws. It's not a hobby like fishing or motorcycling etc.. What you DDM should do is stop being a nut and start being polite, just like you would expect be to done to you. The newsgroups are not the place to ask legal questions in the first place. As was stated, get a copy of the scanner laws and show the officer, that could help him/her in their duties and help keep the heat off off of you and someone else in the future. |
The "55" came from Nixon. You remember him and watergate.
"ONE" term Carter was a boondoggle. Carter needed the FREE gas to cook his peanuts. 10-4 on the unfunded mandateed laws from the Feds. They make laws that the states are required to enforce but fail to fund them. Brenda Ann wrote: And we can thank Mr. Reagan for blackmailing the states in a similar fashion to raise the drinking age to 21.. I'm not certain that Carter had anything much to do with the federal seatbelt mandate, but he had his own boondoggles.. the 55mph speed limit, the banning of decorative gaslights, etc. during the Arab oil embargo, and our own oil companies claiming we were dangerously short on reserves so that they could gouge us at the pumps (at least Carter's Attorney General made them give some of it back in the form of free gas). Doesn't matter anyway which party pushes this stuff.... it's BS. The federal government has been strongarming states to do their bidding for years.. wonder what the next unfunded mandate will be?? |
On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 07:52:44 GMT, "D. Stussy" wrote:
On Sun, 7 Dec 2003, Jim Shaffer, Jr. wrote: [Scanner post text deleted] Well, what do you expect from someone so ****ing stupid that he can live with himself for enforcing seatbelt laws? Victimless crimes should be abolished. The "people" enforcing such laws are robots, not human beings. Since when is that a "victimless" crime? Jerk not wearing a seat-belt gets involved in an accident (his fault or not; doesn't matter) - and sues the other driver for the aggravation of his injuries (which could have been avoided or certainly lessened if a seat belt had been worn). Insurance company raises rates on ALL customers due to the litigation (even if their insured is not at fault - because of the "general statistics" of more serious accidents in the area). Mandatory insurance is also fascism, and the government should be paying for everyone's health care anyway -- they're not doing anything else useful with the taxes they take from us. |
On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 17:20:46 -0500, Jim Shaffer, Jr. wrote:
Mandatory insurance is also fascism, and the government should be paying for everyone's health care anyway -- they're not doing anything else useful with the taxes they take from us. Is it a full moon already or what? Dave -- You can talk about us, but you can't talk without us! US Army Signal Corps!! www.geocities.com/davidcasey98 Added Patriot live fire pics from June 2002, Bosque fire pics from June 2003, CQB training pics from October 2003, FTX pics from October 2000, NBC training pics from September 2000, and Dining Out pics from October 2000! |
"D. Stussy" wrote Since when is that a "victimless" crime? Jerk not wearing a seat-belt gets involved in an accident (his fault or not; doesn't matter) - and sues the other driver for the aggravation of his injuries (which could have been avoided or certainly lessened if a seat belt had been worn). Another example of the Great Dumbing Down of America. The world is methodically being dumbed down by government efforts to protect us from stupid people. Stupid drivers don't recognize the dangers of speed, so they drive too fast and kill themselves. The government regulates speed, so now more stupid people survive. Stupid automobile passengers get killed because they don't buckle their seat belts. Government steps in and makes seat belt usage mandatory, so now more stupid people survive. Stupid pedestrians don't know enough to not step out into a busy street, so they get injured and killed trying to cross the street. The government makes laws giving them the right-of-way, so now more stupid people survive. Stupid parents don't recognize the value of childhood inoculations. The government makes them vaccinate their children before entering school, so now more stupid people survive. Stupid hams don't know enough to keep their fingers out of 3KV plate transformers, so they get fried in their own juice. Some would have the government protect them, and more stupid people would survive. In the ways of Mother Nature, stupidity was kept in check because stupid people generally didn't survive to breeding age, thus our species tended to get smarter over time. But stupidity begets stupidity, so we are being overwhelmed by a tsunami of stupidity. The tsunami is triggered by the government protection of stupid people, which allows them to survive to reproduce. Ergo, less government regulations makes a smarter populace. 73, de Hans, K0HB |
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KØHB wrote: "D. Stussy" wrote [seatbelts] Another example of the Great Dumbing Down of America. The world is methodically being dumbed down by government efforts to protect us from stupid people. Stupid drivers don't recognize the dangers of speed, so they drive too fast and kill themselves. The government regulates speed, so now more stupid people survive. [...] Most people aren't willing to be this honest. But it is true -- nature prunes itself, everywhere from the old branches on that oak tree in your backyard, to the newly-hatched turtle who can't make it to the shoreline before the seagull eats him up. It's sad but true. And as usual, humans are trying to change the way nature works. My guess is that the dinosaurs tried that once. ONCE. Dave KZ1O -- This file is PureMail protected. To reply to the sender, you MUST include this in the subject line: YKXWBSX7I6 01/03/2004 (without that string in the subject, your message will be deleted, unread) |
"DSL" scribed upon the newsgroup
scroll : Uh pardon me, but he won't be able to tell you that because you and everyone else that replied are being trolled. The post that you are replying to was originally posted in April of this year not by me, but by someone going by the alias "RedXIII". http://www.google.com/groups?q=g:thl...&lr=&ie=UTF-8& oe=UTF-8&safe=off&selm=XiGdnQpVrN5FVTijXTWcpw%40comcast.c om Further info on this, he posted the same as "RedXIII" in rec.radio.scanner on April 22, 2003 (probably a cross post). Link is: http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=e...ght&rnum=&thl= 0,1083608724,1083589878 A click on the link in his sig (http://mywebpages.comcast.net/RedXIII1/Info.html) provided enlightenng, yet crude, info that RedXIII is just a troll. This link verifies this. The actual page text says: "You're all a bunch of f***ing losers that are being duped by the REC.RADIO TROLL!!!! F**K OFF!!!" How much more more do we need to realize every bit of the original post is troll fodder? Gosh. - Allen McBroom Remove WOOF when replying by email |
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We have MORE Big Brother stuff now then before thanks to those Rush
Limbaugh Republicans. We need a change for the better: Vote Democratic in 2004. "Brenda Ann" wrote in message ... "RHF" wrote in message om... DDM, States have to demonstrate that they are 'enforcing' the "Seat Belt" Laws or the Federal Government can cut certain Highway and Transportation Funding that is 'tied' to "Safer Highways" Thank You Jimmy Carter ! = Another Big Brother, = = Big Government Idea ! = = = Form the Democrats [.] And we can thank Mr. Reagan for blackmailing the states in a similar fashion to raise the drinking age to 21.. I'm not certain that Carter had anything much to do with the federal seatbelt mandate, but he had his own boondoggles.. the 55mph speed limit, the banning of decorative gaslights, etc. during the Arab oil embargo, and our own oil companies claiming we were dangerously short on reserves so that they could gouge us at the pumps (at least Carter's Attorney General made them give some of it back in the form of free gas). Doesn't matter anyway which party pushes this stuff.... it's BS. The federal government has been strongarming states to do their bidding for years.. wonder what the next unfunded mandate will be?? |
"Jerry None" wrote in message om... We have MORE Big Brother stuff now then before thanks to those Rush Limbaugh Republicans. We need a change for the better: Vote Democratic in 2004. "Brenda Ann" wrote in message ... "RHF" wrote in message om... DDM, States have to demonstrate that they are 'enforcing' the "Seat Belt" Laws or the Federal Government can cut certain Highway and Transportation Funding that is 'tied' to "Safer Highways" Thank You Jimmy Carter ! = Another Big Brother, = = Big Government Idea ! = = = Form the Democrats [.] And we can thank Mr. Reagan for blackmailing the states in a similar fashion to raise the drinking age to 21.. I'm not certain that Carter had anything much to do with the federal seatbelt mandate, but he had his own boondoggles.. the 55mph speed limit, the banning of decorative gaslights, etc. during the Arab oil embargo, and our own oil companies claiming we were dangerously short on reserves so that they could gouge us at the pumps (at least Carter's Attorney General made them give some of it back in the form of free gas). Doesn't matter anyway which party pushes this stuff.... it's BS. The federal government has been strongarming states to do their bidding for years.. wonder what the next unfunded mandate will be?? Read the 10th Amendment for the few limited powers the FEDs were explicitly given. All other power was left to the states. All the rest of FED power is economic blackmail upon the States. Ghost |
JN,
Everyone Who VOTES - Votes Democratic. Regardless of which Political Party Democrat, Republican, Green, Peace and Freedom, American Independent, Libertarian, ETC. Do Not Confuse Democratic Principles and the Concept of Democracy: = = = With the Political Party that Labels itself "Democrat" BE AN AMERICA FIRST AND FORMOST [.] - Political Party Label and - - Political Party Membership is way down the List. - - - After Family, Faith and the Brotherhood of Man . . . Blessed by God with Life and Progressive by Nature thru Living ~ RHF [ Just an Old Retired Blue Collar Union Member - Dosvedanya Tovarisch ] .. .. = = = (Jerry None) = = = wrote in message . com... We have MORE Big Brother stuff now then before thanks to those Rush Limbaugh Republicans. We need a change for the better: Vote Democratic in 2004. "Brenda Ann" wrote in message ... "RHF" wrote in message om... DDM, States have to demonstrate that they are 'enforcing' the "Seat Belt" Laws or the Federal Government can cut certain Highway and Transportation Funding that is 'tied' to "Safer Highways" Thank You Jimmy Carter ! = Another Big Brother, = = Big Government Idea ! = = = Form the Democrats [.] And we can thank Mr. Reagan for blackmailing the states in a similar fashion to raise the drinking age to 21.. I'm not certain that Carter had anything much to do with the federal seatbelt mandate, but he had his own boondoggles.. the 55mph speed limit, the banning of decorative gaslights, etc. during the Arab oil embargo, and our own oil companies claiming we were dangerously short on reserves so that they could gouge us at the pumps (at least Carter's Attorney General made them give some of it back in the form of free gas). Doesn't matter anyway which party pushes this stuff.... it's BS. The federal government has been strongarming states to do their bidding for years.. wonder what the next unfunded mandate will be?? |
Jerry None wrote:
We have MORE Big Brother stuff now then before thanks to those Rush Limbaugh Republicans. We need a change for the better: Vote Democratic in 2004. Yeah. ??? Voting for a democrat will help ??? Oh, wait -- YOU'RE STUPID! I didn't realize that! My mistake. You need to put a .siggie at the end of your post that says that you are stupid. By the way, we (taxpayers) would like to spend $200 Million to make sure that your seat in the short bus is comfortable. Is that OK? It will be funded from the taxes from the "rich". OK? I'm going to be flamed. But at least I identify myself. They won't Check it out yourself. If they use a real address, mark it on your calendar. If they use a fake, or anon, address, they are typical libs. Worthless. See the trailer if you want to reply! All the best, Dave -- This file is PureMail protected. To reply to the sender, you MUST include this in the subject line (it may already be there): YKXWBSX7I6 01/03/2004 (without that string in the subject, your message will be deleted, unread) |
RHF wrote:
JN, Everyone Who VOTES - Votes Democratic. So, democrats elected Bush? Let's see -- Bush is President. RHF says that "Everyone Who VOTES - Votes Democratic". Done. |
DB,
Your {Il}Logic Fails You [.] NOTE: Some Democrats undoubtedly did Vote for Candidate GW Bush in 2000. - But then again some Republicans - - Must have Voted for - - - Candidate Al Gore in 2004. FWIW: Members of Both Major Parties: Democrat and Republican. = = = Evidently did Vote for Ralph Nader and Pat Buchanan. (Either By Choice -or- By Accident) Its Called "Democracy" and Inspite of Your Party Affiliation: = You Have The RIGHT To VOTE For The Candidate of Your CHOICE. = = Another Basic American FREEDOM ! = = = An American Citizen Has . . . = = = = The Right, Duty and Responsibility to VOTE [.] AMERICANISM {The Spirit of America} FIRST: = = = Overcoming Political Affiliation and Party. Doing What Is Right For Your Country Out Of Love And Respect For It. Maybe JFK said it very well in these few Words. "And so, My Fellow Americans: - Ask NOT What Your Country Can Do For You - - Ask What You Can Do For Your Country." - - - Inaugural Address of President John F. Kennedy - - - - Washington, D.C. January 20, 1961 NOTE: Not Political Party - But YOUR COUNTRY [.] FWIW: Many remember these Lines . . . - - - But do Many Remember the Next Lines ? ? ? "My fellow citizens of the world: - Ask Not What America Will Do For You, - - But What Together We Can Do For The FREEDOM Of Man. - - - John F. Kennedy President of the United States of America "Finally, whether you are Citizens of America or citizens of the world, ask of us here the same high standards of strength and sacrifice which we ask of you. With a good conscience our only sure reward, with history the final judge of our deeds, Let Us Go Forth To Lead The Land We Love, asking His Blessing and His Help, but knowing that here on earth God's Work Must Truly Be Our Own." - - - John F. Kennedy President of the United States of America Where are the Democrat Party Leaders like JFK Today ? ? ? - And WHY arn't any running for President in 2004 ? ? ? - - WHY Must We Be Left ONLY with the Choice of GW Bush - - - and one of the DeMoCratZys in 2004 why, Why. WHY ! Blessed by God with Life and Progressive by Nature thru Living ~ RHF [Just an Old Retired Blue Collar Union Member - Dosvedanya Tovarisch] .. .. = = = Dave Bushong = = = wrote in message . net... RHF wrote: JN, Everyone Who VOTES - Votes Democratic(ally). So, democrats elected Bush? Let's see -- Bush is President. RHF says that "Everyone Who VOTES - Votes Democratic". Done. .. .. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = JN, Everyone Who VOTES - Votes Democratic (ally). Regardless of which Political Party Democrat, Republican, Green, Peace and Freedom, American Independent, Libertarian, ETC. Do Not Confuse Democratic Principles and the Concept of Democracy: = = = With the Political Party that Labels itself "Democrat" BE AN AMERICA FIRST AND FORMOST [.] - Political Party Label and - - Political Party Membership is way down the List. - - - After Family, Faith and the Brotherhood of Man . . . Blessed by God with Life and Progressive by Nature thru Living ~ RHF [Just an Old Retired Blue Collar Union Member - Dosvedanya Tovarisch] .. .. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = From: Jerry None ) Subject: Asshole Cop Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave Date: 2003-12-16 11:08:01 PST We have MORE Big Brother stuff now then before thanks to those Rush Limbaugh Republicans. We need a change for the better: Vote Democratic in 2004. .. .. |
RHF,
I'm not going to followup any more after this one, except to say that the dashes and equal signs in your posting confuse me. You must be new to the keyboard. However, I'm really digging my new IC-R10. Not terribly hot, nor selective, receiving on HF, but it's nice to be able to take a hand-held to work that lets me know if HF or 6m is "hoppin", plus for use as a regular scanner on VHF/UHF. That being said, since this is a radio group, I also want to say that you should post *before* you start drinking. You sound like a very old person with the mind of a child. But getting back to the JFK quote, you seem to forget that the purpose of government is to serve the people. The idea of "ask not what your country can do for you..." is completely contrary to the concepts espoused by the framers of the U.S. Constitution. You can compare that document, he http://memory.loc.gov/const/const.html and then compare it to China's version: http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/20...ent_633686.htm "It also follows that if a government ... itself begins to violate those rights - then it is the right and duty of the people to regain control of their affairs and set up a form of government that will serve the people better." --Thomas Jefferson Here are some good links to learn more about this country: http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/7970/jefpco21.htm http://www.kidport.com/RefLib/UsaHis...ion/DecInd.htm http://quote.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Jefferson http://usembassy.state.gov/posts/rp1/wwwhw022.html Now, it's important that I say this: whatever you feel about politics or religion, in this country you may say it freely. Yes, that's right, even if I don't agree with you. I've been called a jerk by people whose opinions I deeply respect. All the best, and 73, Dave KZ1O RHF wrote: DB, Your {Il}Logic Fails You [.] NOTE: Some Democrats undoubtedly did Vote for Candidate GW Bush in 2000. - But then again some Republicans - - Must have Voted for - - - Candidate Al Gore in 2004. FWIW: Members of Both Major Parties: Democrat and Republican. = = = Evidently did Vote for Ralph Nader and Pat Buchanan. (Either By Choice -or- By Accident) Its Called "Democracy" and Inspite of Your Party Affiliation: = You Have The RIGHT To VOTE For The Candidate of Your CHOICE. = = Another Basic American FREEDOM ! = = = An American Citizen Has . . . = = = = The Right, Duty and Responsibility to VOTE [.] AMERICANISM {The Spirit of America} FIRST: = = = Overcoming Political Affiliation and Party. Doing What Is Right For Your Country Out Of Love And Respect For It. Maybe JFK said it very well in these few Words. "And so, My Fellow Americans: - Ask NOT What Your Country Can Do For You - - Ask What You Can Do For Your Country." - - - Inaugural Address of President John F. Kennedy - - - - Washington, D.C. January 20, 1961 NOTE: Not Political Party - But YOUR COUNTRY [.] FWIW: Many remember these Lines . . . - - - But do Many Remember the Next Lines ? ? ? "My fellow citizens of the world: - Ask Not What America Will Do For You, - - But What Together We Can Do For The FREEDOM Of Man. - - - John F. Kennedy President of the United States of America "Finally, whether you are Citizens of America or citizens of the world, ask of us here the same high standards of strength and sacrifice which we ask of you. With a good conscience our only sure reward, with history the final judge of our deeds, Let Us Go Forth To Lead The Land We Love, asking His Blessing and His Help, but knowing that here on earth God's Work Must Truly Be Our Own." - - - John F. Kennedy President of the United States of America Where are the Democrat Party Leaders like JFK Today ? ? ? - And WHY arn't any running for President in 2004 ? ? ? - - WHY Must We Be Left ONLY with the Choice of GW Bush - - - and one of the DeMoCratZys in 2004 why, Why. WHY ! Blessed by God with Life and Progressive by Nature thru Living ~ RHF [Just an Old Retired Blue Collar Union Member - Dosvedanya Tovarisch] . . = = = Dave Bushong = = = wrote in message . net... RHF wrote: JN, Everyone Who VOTES - Votes Democratic(ally). So, democrats elected Bush? Let's see -- Bush is President. RHF says that "Everyone Who VOTES - Votes Democratic". Done. . . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = JN, Everyone Who VOTES - Votes Democratic (ally). Regardless of which Political Party Democrat, Republican, Green, Peace and Freedom, American Independent, Libertarian, ETC. Do Not Confuse Democratic Principles and the Concept of Democracy: = = = With the Political Party that Labels itself "Democrat" BE AN AMERICA FIRST AND FORMOST [.] - Political Party Label and - - Political Party Membership is way down the List. - - - After Family, Faith and the Brotherhood of Man . . . Blessed by God with Life and Progressive by Nature thru Living ~ RHF [Just an Old Retired Blue Collar Union Member - Dosvedanya Tovarisch] . . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = From: Jerry None ) Subject: Asshole Cop Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave Date: 2003-12-16 11:08:01 PST We have MORE Big Brother stuff now then before thanks to those Rush Limbaugh Republicans. We need a change for the better: Vote Democratic in 2004. . . -- This file is PureMail protected. To reply to the sender, you MUST include this in the subject line: YKXWBSX7I6 01/03/2004 (without that string in the subject, your message will be deleted, unread) |
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= = = Dave Bushong = = = wrote in message t... RHF, I'm not going to followup any more after this one, except to say that the dashes and equal signs in your posting confuse me. =R= Its just something that my old mind can still understand in formating my ideas on the new fangled computer media. .. .. You must be new to the keyboard. =R= You are Oh So Right - tYPING wAS nOT sOMTHING a mAN lEARNED wAY bACK wHEN i wENT tO lOOHCS. .. .. However, I'm really digging my new IC-R10. Not terribly hot, nor selective, receiving on HF, but it's nice to be able to take a hand-held to work that lets me know if HF or 6m is "hoppin", plus for use as a regular scanner on VHF/UHF. =R= we All should Enjoy the Simple Things In Life. = = = Enjoy Your Radio. .. .. That being said, since this is a radio group, I also want to say that you should post *before* you start drinking. =R= That is True - I Drink To Much ! .. .. You sound like a very old person with the mind of a child. =R= YES - I am a very old man. And Child Like - I Love My Country [.] ? ? ? Am I WRONG To Love My Country ? ? ? - I Loved My Country As A Child. - - I Loved My Country As An Adult, Husband, and Father. - - - I Taught My Children to Love Their Country. - - - - And Today As An Old Man "I LOVE MY COUNTRY" [.] .. .. But getting back to the JFK quote, you seem to forget that the purpose of government is to serve the people. =R= In The USofA - The Government is "The People". - JFK was Calling On "The People" to Serve In Their Government - - To Make Their Government - - - The Best It Could Be - - - - On Behalf of "The People". ( Been Their Done That ! ) .. .. The idea of "ask not what your country can do for you..." is completely contrary to the concepts espoused by the framers of the U.S. Constitution. You can compare that document, he GoTo= http://memory.loc.gov/const/const.html and then compare it to China's version: GoTo= http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/20...ent_633686.htm =R= AHhhh, The Constitution of the USofA -=V=- The Constitution of the Constitution of Communist Party of China. ? ? ? How Can These Two Documents Be Compared ? ? ? The Constitution of a Nation -=V=- The Constitution of a Political Party. This is Where 'todays' DeMoCratZys error in their Priorities. = = = They Put Party - Before Nation. .. .. "It also follows that if a government ... itself begins to violate those rights - then it is the right and duty of the people to regain control of their affairs and set up a form of government that will serve the people better." - - - Thomas Jefferson =R= My Choice has always been to Work Within The System to Affect Change. = = = A Process of Evolution Not To Attack the System to Effect Change. = = = A Process of Revolution. .. .. Here are some good links to learn more about this country: http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/7970/jefpco21.htm http://www.kidport.com/RefLib/UsaHis...ion/DecInd.htm http://quote.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Jefferson http://usembassy.state.gov/posts/rp1/wwwhw022.html =R= I will add them to 'my' Reading List - Thank You :o) .. .. Now, it's important that I say this: whatever you feel about politics or religion, in this country you may say it freely. Yes, that's right, even if I don't agree with you. I've been called a jerk by people whose opinions I deeply respect. =R= If this is True ? ? ? Then why, Why. WHY ! - - - Did you "Choose" words like: "I also want to say that you should post *before* you start drinking." "You sound like a very old person with the mind of a child." All the best, and 73, Dave KZ1O Blessed by God with Life and Progressive by Nature thru Living ~ RHF [Just an Old Retired Blue Collar Union Member - Dosvedanya Tovarisch] .. .. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = RHF wrote: DB, Your {Il}Logic Fails You [.] NOTE: Some Democrats undoubtedly did Vote for Candidate GW Bush in 2000. - But then again some Republicans - - Must have Voted for - - - Candidate Al Gore in 2004. FWIW: Members of Both Major Parties: Democrat and Republican. = = = Evidently did Vote for Ralph Nader and Pat Buchanan. (Either By Choice -or- By Accident) Its Called "Democracy" and Inspite of Your Party Affiliation: = You Have The RIGHT To VOTE For The Candidate of Your CHOICE. = = Another Basic American FREEDOM ! = = = An American Citizen Has . . . = = = = The Right, Duty and Responsibility to VOTE [.] AMERICANISM {The Spirit of America} FIRST: = = = Overcoming Political Affiliation and Party. Doing What Is Right For Your Country Out Of Love And Respect For It. Maybe JFK said it very well in these few Words. "And so, My Fellow Americans: - Ask NOT What Your Country Can Do For You - - Ask What You Can Do For Your Country." - - - Inaugural Address of President John F. Kennedy - - - - Washington, D.C. January 20, 1961 NOTE: Not Political Party - But YOUR COUNTRY [.] FWIW: Many remember these Lines . . . - - - But do Many Remember the Next Lines ? ? ? "My fellow citizens of the world: - Ask Not What America Will Do For You, - - But What Together We Can Do For The FREEDOM Of Man. - - - John F. Kennedy President of the United States of America "Finally, whether you are Citizens of America or citizens of the world, ask of us here the same high standards of strength and sacrifice which we ask of you. With a good conscience our only sure reward, with history the final judge of our deeds, Let Us Go Forth To Lead The Land We Love, asking His Blessing and His Help, but knowing that here on earth God's Work Must Truly Be Our Own." - - - John F. Kennedy President of the United States of America Where are the Democrat Party Leaders like JFK Today ? ? ? - And WHY arn't any running for President in 2004 ? ? ? - - WHY Must We Be Left ONLY with the Choice of GW Bush - - - and one of the DeMoCratZys in 2004 why, Why. WHY ! Blessed by God with Life and Progressive by Nature thru Living ~ RHF [Just an Old Retired Blue Collar Union Member - Dosvedanya Tovarisch] . . = = = Dave Bushong = = = wrote in message . net... RHF wrote: JN, Everyone Who VOTES - Votes Democratic(ally). So, democrats elected Bush? Let's see -- Bush is President. RHF says that "Everyone Who VOTES - Votes Democratic". Done. . . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = JN, Everyone Who VOTES - Votes Democratic (ally). Regardless of which Political Party Democrat, Republican, Green, Peace and Freedom, American Independent, Libertarian, ETC. Do Not Confuse Democratic Principles and the Concept of Democracy: = = = With the Political Party that Labels itself "Democrat" BE AN AMERICA FIRST AND FORMOST [.] - Political Party Label and - - Political Party Membership is way down the List. - - - After Family, Faith and the Brotherhood of Man . . . Blessed by God with Life and Progressive by Nature thru Living ~ RHF [Just an Old Retired Blue Collar Union Member - Dosvedanya Tovarisch] . . = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = From: Jerry None ) Subject: Asshole Cop Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave Date: 2003-12-16 11:08:01 PST We have MORE Big Brother stuff now then before thanks to those Rush Limbaugh Republicans. We need a change for the better: Vote Democratic in 2004. . . |
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Obviously "asshole" & "cop" is a redundant term, like "political moron".
"RP Jones" wrote in message ... And they will plant dope in your car if your not nice to them. I refuse to drive in the state with New York plates. Yeas ago I was stopped on the Palisades Pkwy in Alpine for a tire presser test. The cop said the tires have to much wear and said: "you cant drive garbage through the streets here" They impounded my 68 Chevy van and slashed the 2 front tires, handed me an unsafe vehicle ticket and told me start walking ......waiving nightsticks -RP "Joe User" wrote: True, NJ /is/ a police state. Took a road trip a couple of years ago, drove almost 6000 miles around the midwest and northwest USA, saw maybe three speed traps the whole time. On the final leg through NJ heading back into NYC, counted over TWENTY speed traps. And those are just the ones that didn't bother hiding. And remember, NJ is one of those places where DWB is a felony offense. (Driving While Black, for the uninitiated). I've boycotted New Jersey. Pick up your scanner and move somewhere that the police don't act like stormtroopers. |
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Dave Bushong wrote: snip But getting back to the JFK quote, you seem to forget that the purpose of government is to serve the people. The idea of "ask not what your country can do for you..." is completely contrary to the concepts espoused by the framers of the U.S. Constitution. You can compare that document, he http://memory.loc.gov/const/const.html and then compare it to China's version: http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/20...ent_633686.htm snip JFK was making a request that people volunteer their time to make this nation and through the Peace Corps the world a better place. It was not a demand and not against the Constitution. Trying to compare this request to any demand Red China has made of their people under penalty of their law is insulting to our nation and memory of a great leader. You show no understanding of past events with comments like this. You should be ashamed of writing something like this. Please re-think what you wrote. I can count the number of times on one hand that a world leader made a speech inspiring people to make the world a better place out of self sacrifice and you try to compare this to a repressive communist regimes actions? Totally incongruous is this thinking. -- Telamon Ventura, California |
TELAMON,
JFK's "Call" was NOT Limited to the Peace Corps; but to Service of All Kinds to This Nation to Make It Greater. + To Get Involved in Government Civil Service. + To Join the Military + To Become a Teacher, Nurse, Doctor, ETC + To Become a Fireman, Policeman, Public Service Worker + To Volunteer in Your Communities - Helping Others + To Volunteer for the Peace Corps, VISTA, AmeriCorps + YES - Even To Get Involved into Politics For Every American to Actively Work to Build A Better America [.] NOTE: IMHO - A Better America - Will Make for A Better World. - I Do Not Subscribe to the "False" Idea of the OWLES - - That Only By Tearing Down America in Words and Deads - - - That We Can Then Start to Begin To Build A Better World. REMEMBER TOO: On that Inauguation Day JFK Also Spoke These Words. "Let Us Go Forth To Lead The Land We Love, asking His Blessing and His Help, but knowing that here on earth God's Work Must Truly Be Our Own." - - - Inaugural Address of President John F. Kennedy - - - Washington, D.C. January 20, 1961 gba ~ RHF = = = God Bless America and Our Elected Leaders - Amen ! .. .. = = = Telamon = = = wrote in message ... In article , Dave Bushong wrote: snip But getting back to the JFK quote, you seem to forget that the purpose of government is to serve the people. The idea of "ask not what your country can do for you..." is completely contrary to the concepts espoused by the framers of the U.S. Constitution. You can compare that document, he http://memory.loc.gov/const/const.html and then compare it to China's version: http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/20...ent_633686.htm snip JFK was making a request that people volunteer their time to make this nation and through the Peace Corps the world a better place. It was not a demand and not against the Constitution. Trying to compare this request to any demand Red China has made of their people under penalty of their law is insulting to our nation and memory of a great leader. You show no understanding of past events with comments like this. You should be ashamed of writing something like this. Please re-think what you wrote. I can count the number of times on one hand that a world leader made a speech inspiring people to make the world a better place out of self sacrifice and you try to compare this to a repressive communist regimes actions? Totally incongruous is this thinking. .. |
"RHF" wrote in message m... TELAMON, JFK's "Call" was NOT Limited to the Peace Corps; but to Service of All Kinds to This Nation to Make It Greater. + To Get Involved in Government Civil Service. + To Join the Military + To Become a Teacher, Nurse, Doctor, ETC + To Become a Fireman, Policeman, Public Service Worker + To Volunteer in Your Communities - Helping Others + To Volunteer for the Peace Corps, VISTA, AmeriCorps + YES - Even To Get Involved into Politics For Every American to Actively Work to Build A Better America [.] I notice these are all government paid (read Welfare) positions! Was there ever a shortage of people with their hand out? ,snip REMEMBER TOO: On that Inauguration Day JFK Also Spoke These Words. "Let Us Go Forth To Lead The Land We Love, asking His Blessing and His Help, but knowing that here on earth God's Work Must Truly Be Our Own." - - - Inaugural Address of President John F. Kennedy - - - Washington, D.C. January 20, 1961 Do you suppose JFK was shot for mouthing off? If he had not said those things, would he still be alive? Would he have been elected for a second term? |
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