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Clint December 14th 03 12:01 AM


"Louis C. LeVine" wrote in message
om...
This came from another radio group. They are doing a survey to find
out why some people do not like the ARRL. I don't like it because it
costs to much. If it were $10 a year I might consider joining.
Louis


I don't like them because the head bosses see themselves as self-appointed
gods of ham radio.... at least at one point in time they were trying to get
the FCC to hand over authority of the ham radio spectrum to them
entirely.

Clint



Brian December 14th 03 02:52 AM

Mike Coslo wrote in message ...
Steve Robeson, K4CAP wrote:

(Louis C. LeVine) wrote in message . com...

This came from another radio group. They are doing a survey to find
out why some people do not like the ARRL. I don't like it because it
costs to much. If it were $10 a year I might consider joining.
Louis



And just exactly what do you expect that they could do for $10.00
a month?

Please name me ONE organization in ANY "hobby" activity that
provdes the scope of servcies and resources the ARRL offers to it's
target peer group.

Awaiting your informed response.


I think this is one of those cases where some people think that their
membership is a subscription to QST. Its a lot more than that. ARRL does
a lot for Amateurs, even those who hate the organization.

- Mike KB3EIA -



Fair enough.

I dislike some of the policies that the ARRL has promoted in the past,
and felt as if the ARRL did not represent me even though I have been a
member since 1986.

Luckily, the FCC went over the ARRL's head and showed a little
lesdership with respect to licensing issues.

73, Brian

Dee D. Flint December 14th 03 06:04 AM


"Brian" wrote in message
om...
Mike Coslo wrote in message

...
Steve Robeson, K4CAP wrote:

(Louis C. LeVine) wrote in message

. com...

This came from another radio group. They are doing a survey to find
out why some people do not like the ARRL. I don't like it because it
costs to much. If it were $10 a year I might consider joining.
Louis


And just exactly what do you expect that they could do for $10.00
a month?

Please name me ONE organization in ANY "hobby" activity that
provdes the scope of servcies and resources the ARRL offers to it's
target peer group.

Awaiting your informed response.


I think this is one of those cases where some people think that their
membership is a subscription to QST. Its a lot more than that. ARRL does
a lot for Amateurs, even those who hate the organization.

- Mike KB3EIA -



Fair enough.

I dislike some of the policies that the ARRL has promoted in the past,
and felt as if the ARRL did not represent me even though I have been a
member since 1986.


Did you get actively involved? Did you become a section director? Did you
campaign to sway the majority to your opinion? Or did you just write a
letter or two complaining and were disappointed because it didn't instantly
change the ARRL's policies? If you want your point of view to be policy
then you have to become very politically active in an organization.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


Radioman December 14th 03 07:05 AM



Ragchewer wrote:

Why do I not like the ARRL? I will answer that with another
question. Would you trust a gang of Yankee carpetbaggers,
the same bunch who stole from the southerners at the end of
the War Between The States? You would? Good! Sign
up for life membership with the rest of the NewingtonYankee
gang. As for me, the league can go f..k itself, since that is what
it has been doing to the rest of us for decades.

RC


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Radioman December 14th 03 07:07 AM



Clint wrote:

I don't like them because the head bosses see themselves as self-appointed
gods of ham radio.... at least at one point in time they were trying to get
the FCC to hand over authority of the ham radio spectrum to them
entirely.

Clint


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Dwight Stewart December 14th 03 07:19 AM

"JEP" wrote:
I don't like ARRL because:

1) Membership price too high
2) Can't separate QST from membership
(snip)



Several years ago (four or five), QST was available at the Barnes and
Noble bookstore in this area. But it then disappeared off the shelf and I
haven't seen it since. When I asked the manager about it, he looked on the
computer and said the magazine was no longer available from the supplier.
This was surprising since the magazine sold out almost immediately each
month (I missed several issues because of that).

The newsgroups rec.radio.shortwave and rec.radio.cb has been deleted from
this reply (discussion is off-topic in those newsgroups).


Dwight Stewart (W5NET)

http://www.qsl.net/w5net/


JEP December 14th 03 11:07 AM

And just who is

?????

I have given a real email address and feel free to respond to it.


The ARRL hasn't represented the membership directly---EVER!

The ARRL has had it's own agenda (big money) for years.

The ARRL would be considered a large corp. in most sectors, operating
under a non-profit status.

The only good about the ARRL is/was QST and now I can't even find it
on the news stands.

Bye bye ARRL.

Bye bye ham radio as we know it.

JEP



Radioman wrote in message ...
JEP wrote:

I don't like ARRL because:

1) Membership price too high
2) Can't separate QST from membership
3) QST only counts as $15 of the $39 membership fee
4) Incentive licensing from the 60's
5) Ham radio is a dying hobby
6) 5wpm Extras
7) No value given for the money invested
8) No accountability of the board and Executive staff
9) Really doesn't represent the majority of hams (majority don't
belong)
10) Really no different than 'NRA', 'AARP', 'NAACP'. Take your money
and use it for their own agenda, NOT yours!

That is enough for a start.

Sorry to see '73' and Wayne Green exit publishing.
Sorry to see 'Ham Radio' exit publishing.

ex ARRL member



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KØHB December 14th 03 02:48 PM


"Dwight Stewart" wrote

Several years ago (four or five), QST was available at the Barnes and
Noble bookstore in this area. But it then disappeared off the shelf and I
haven't seen it since.


At $4.99/mo ($59.88/yr) plus tax, I'm sure it wasn't a high volume business
for Barnes and Noble, since that's a 53% premium over the membership dues,
and you don't get the other benefits which comes with membership. Only an
idiot would regularly buy QST from a news stand!

73, de Hans, K0HB





KØHB December 14th 03 02:54 PM


"Dr. Daffodil Swain" wrote

Did you become a section director?

Those jobs are reserved for Lifetime Members.


There is no such animal as a 'section director'. Perhaps you meant 'Section
Manager'. There is no requirement to be a life member to be elected to that
position. Neither is there such a requirement for Division Director or
Division Vice Director (I was twice elected to that position, and I'm not a
life member.)

Doncha just hate it when facts come into play and spoil your lovely rant?

73, de Hans, K0HB








Dan/W4NTI December 14th 03 03:44 PM


"KØHB" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Dr. Daffodil Swain" wrote

Did you become a section director?

Those jobs are reserved for Lifetime Members.


There is no such animal as a 'section director'. Perhaps you meant

'Section
Manager'. There is no requirement to be a life member to be elected to

that
position. Neither is there such a requirement for Division Director or
Division Vice Director (I was twice elected to that position, and I'm not

a
life member.)

Doncha just hate it when facts come into play and spoil your lovely rant?

73, de Hans, K0HB

It continually amazes me Hans.

BTW, THanks for the chat on 20. I am playing a bit in the 10 meter
contest, CW only.

Dan/W4NTI




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