RadioBanter - Why You Don't Like The ARRL

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sideband wrote:
I eat my peas with honey,
I've done it all my life.
It makes the peas taste funny,
But it keeps them on my knife.

-SSB

Yum Yum, I like it.

"Dee D. Flint" wrote:

"Dwight Stewart" wrote:
Why limit any exclusion to just the
church building, parking lot, and parish?
Since churches have been running schools,
colleges, homeless shelters, women and
youth shelters, food kitchens, youth camps
and sports activities, hospitals, nursing
homes, and so on, for many years (some
long before this country was created and
each requiring buildings, land, or equipment),
such a limit would have a serious impact on
many traditional church activities.

If we are going all the way on separation of
church and state, why should they get any
special status beyond what other non-profit
organization would get?

There is very little special special status involved. Every non-profit
organization can write off the costs for buildings, land, facilities,
equipment, personnel, and so on. Any remaining special status, and again
there is very little, is covered by the "free exercise thereof" clause of
the First Amendment - "Congress shall make no law respecting the
establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free excercise thereof..."

In my opinion, we cannot "go all the way on separation of church and
state" without violating the "free excercise thereof" clause. If anyone were
to argue to ignore the "free excercise thereof" clause, others could just as
easily argue to ignore the "establishment of religion" clause. Luckily, both
clauses exist and people who truly believe in the Bill of Rights should
honor and defend both. Many people are not doing so today.

Dwight Stewart (W5NET)

http://www.qsl.net/w5net/

"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message igy.com...

And what efforts did you make to convert the majority of members to your
point of view?? While the items you list are worthy activities, they don't
do much to change policy.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Dee, what ARRL office(s) do you hold in your effort to stem the tide
of changes within the ARS? If your answer is "none," I suggest you
start campaigning yesterday.

"Brian" wrote in message
om...
"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message
igy.com...

And what efforts did you make to convert the majority of members to your
point of view?? While the items you list are worthy activities, they
don't
do much to change policy.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Dee, what ARRL office(s) do you hold in your effort to stem the tide
of changes within the ARS? If your answer is "none," I suggest you
start campaigning yesterday.

When and if I wish to change ARRL policy, I'll dive into the political
arena. I'm not the one complaining about ARRL policies.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE

Not in the Mid-Michigan area.....can't find any radio related magazine
anymore! (except for something like Popular Electronics)

Heard some vicious rumor about the anti-radio relay league pulling magazines
from "shelf sales" recently but I cannot confirm this.

Ryan KC8PMX
--
"The Pope has issued a proclamation on Michael Jackson. If he hears any
more allegations about little boys, the Pope says he'll have no choice but
to make him a priest."

"JJ" wrote in message
...
JEP wrote:

2) Can't separate QST from membership

Check your local newstand or magazine rack in stores, many carry QST.
You can purchase it without membership, or check you local library, they
may carry it and you can read it for free.

That would be true if they were selling only ONE copy of it, but when I
COULD find a copy of it locally, due to the fact that it almost ALWAYS sold
out each month, I inquired as to how many copies they got at the closest
store. They said 15 per issue.

So your math would be in slight error. Multiply that number by 15 and you
get $718.56. Not bad for only one magazine, and when you consider they
usually have at least 100 or more magazines on their shelves.

Ryan KC8PMX
--
"The Pope has issued a proclamation on Michael Jackson. If he hears any
more allegations about little boys, the Pope says he'll have no choice but
to make him a priest."

At $4.99/mo ($59.88/yr) plus tax, I'm sure it wasn't a high volume
business
for Barnes and Noble, since that's a 53% premium over the membership dues,
and you don't get the other benefits which comes with membership. Only an
idiot would regularly buy QST from a news stand!

73, de Hans, K0HB

You do realize that the ARRL has the publication and distribution of QST
contracted out, don't you? You should crab to them, not the league per
se.

Cop out excuse. A person's beef would be with the ARRL, not the contracted
agency, and it would be the ARRL's responsibility to deal with the
contracted agency.

Ryan KC8PMX
--
"The Pope has issued a proclamation on Michael Jackson. If he hears any
more allegations about little boys, the Pope says he'll have no choice but
to make him a priest."

Moving it to the south is gonna do NOTHING more than change the location of
the headquarters.....

"Ragchewer" wrote in message
...

Why do I not like the ARRL? I will answer that with another
question. Would you trust a gang of Yankee carpetbaggers,
the same bunch who stole from the southerners at the end of
the War Between The States? You would? Good! Sign
up for life membership with the rest of the NewingtonYankee
gang. As for me, the league can go f..k itself, since that is what
it has been doing to the rest of us for decades.

RC