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Dan/W4NTI December 14th 03 11:39 PM


"Dwight Stewart" wrote in message
nk.net...
"KØHB" wrote:
"Dwight Stewart" wrote

Several years ago (four or five), QST was
available at the Barnes and Noble bookstore
in this area. But it then disappeared off the
shelf and I haven't seen it since.


At $4.99/mo ($59.88/yr) plus tax, I'm sure it
wasn't a high volume business for Barnes and
Noble, since that's a 53% premium over the
membership dues, and you don't get the other
benefits which comes with membership. Only
an idiot would regularly buy QST from a news
stand!



There are circumstances that might require one to be an "idiot," Hans.

In
my case, I purchased it at the news stand because ARRL never seemed able

to
deliver my copy of the magazine (not fast enough to keep up with me). The
first time I joined, my address changed several times in a single year. I
joined at my home here. Two months later, I went elsewhere to prepare for
our operations in Kosovo. Several months later, I went to Italy for the
actual Kosovo conflict itself. Even though a change of address was sent

with
each move, I received only one issue of the magazine that year.

The second year was pretty much the same as the first. I moved back to

the
USA, moved several months later, and finally ended up back here again two
months after that. I got two issues of the magazine that year and didn't
rejoin at the end of the year (and didn't make any effort to get the
magazine for several years).

I joined ARRL again this year and have gotten each copy of the magazine

so
far.


Dwight Stewart (W5NET)

http://www.qsl.net/w5net/


You do realize that the ARRL has the publication and distribution of QST
contracted out, don't you? You should crab to them, not the league per se.

I had similar problems when I was globe trotting, like you. But when I
finally did settle down I dropped both QST and CQ a note...and guess what?
They sent me every single issue I missed.
Amazing, hu?

Dan/W4NTI



KØHB December 15th 03 12:04 AM


"Brian" wrote


She is, more or less, an official ARRL spam-bot.
Wonder if she is an official bulletin station?


And you are, more or less, the official LHA junior-Unabasher. I want you to
be fully aware of your role in rrap, Brian. It goes like this: LHA is the
organ grinder, playing a song called "I Left My Heart in ADA, and Newington
Won't Give It Back". You are the little monkey in a bright red hat hopping
up and down and acting silly for our amusement.

With all best wishes for the recovery of your missing T5 logs,

de Hans, K0HB/4ID






Dee D. Flint December 15th 03 01:59 AM


"JEP" wrote in message
om...

It probably was no longer cost effective to sell it on newstands.

If the ARRL is making money (a no-no for a non-profit corp) then report

them
to the IRS. If they are not making money, then no matter how big they

are,
it is not about money since no one is making a profit.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE



Creative book keeping and Yankee lawyers keeps them out of trouble.
Are they making a profit? Hell yes. No profit, No ARRL. Can they
legally hide their profit? Well sure. With all of the books, CD's,
DVD's, tapes and magazines they sell every year you know there is a
profit. They are no different than GoodWill when it comes to making a
profit except that Goodwill actually helps people. ARRL only helps
itself!

We will probably see QST being hawked in Publishers Clearing House
before too long. Get a magazine and win a million



If they are making a profit, then who is getting the money?? It's got to be
going somewhere. There are no stockholders receiving dividends. It doesn't
do any good just to sit on the money. And don't say salaries as that is
fully documented in the financial records and is not profit. If you believe
the salaries are too high, get on the board that makes the decisions and
reduce them.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


Dee D. Flint December 15th 03 02:00 AM


"Brian" wrote in message
om...
"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message

igy.com...

It probably was no longer cost effective to sell it on newstands.

If the ARRL is making money (a no-no for a non-profit corp) then report

them
to the IRS. If they are not making money, then no matter how big they

are,
it is not about money since no one is making a profit.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


Un-friggin-believable.

Non-profits aren't about profit. They're about salaries.


If the salaries are too high, get on the board and get them reduced.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


Brian December 15th 03 06:03 AM

Mike Coslo wrote in message t...


Won't happen, Dan. People like that have selective memory. They'll rail
about how QST doesn't have articles about what they want to see, and
conveniently forget about the important jobs ARRL does for us.

1. That only a minority of hams belong to ARRL speaks much more about
hams than it does the ARRL.


Are you saying that I'm a sucker?

2. I would challenge the ARRL haters to come up with scenario's of what
the ARS would be like today (if it even existed) if there was no ARRL.

- Mike KB3EIA -


World peace?

Brian December 15th 03 06:10 AM

"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message igy.com...
"Brian" wrote in message
om...


Dee got on early supporting the status quo; hook,line and sinker. She
is a perfect mouth-piece for the ARRL, and I've heard her repeating,
word for word, the policies of this organization. She is, more or
less, an official ARRL spam-bot. Wonder if she is an official
bulletin station?


Not hardly. I disapprove of some of the policies but I do not expect it to
change when my view doesn't represent the majority view. I do not consider
differences of opinion on some policies to be reason to stop supporting
them. Also I merely state that non-members shouldn't think they can change
the policies. The ARRL policies, as with any organization, will reflect the
opinions of the majority of members. Someone with a minority opinion in any
organization will have to work very hard to get the majority to adopt it.
Organizations have no obligation to reflect the opinion of non-members.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


Oh, BS, Dee. You just got through saying that if you don't belong, if
you don't rise to the top of the food chain, blah blah, horse crap,
blah blah.

The ARRL wants to be the -ONE- voice for the ARS. I suggest that they
start with forward thinking leadership representing all, not just
their CW-centric membership. Or get out of the way.

Gray Shockley December 15th 03 06:22 AM

On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 0:03:17 -0600, Brian wrote
(in message ) :

Mike Coslo wrote in message
t...


Won't happen, Dan. People like that have selective memory. They'll rail
about how QST doesn't have articles about what they want to see, and
conveniently forget about the important jobs ARRL does for us.

1. That only a minority of hams belong to ARRL speaks much more about
hams than it does the ARRL.


Are you saying that I'm a sucker?

2. I would challenge the ARRL haters to come up with scenario's of what
the ARS would be like today (if it even existed) if there was no ARRL.

- Mike KB3EIA -


World peace?



Are you also wondering what the ARRL has to do with swling?

Perhaps it is time to add "ARRL" to "syphilis"
and "Hal Turner" in my "social disease" killfool.



Gray Shockley
--------------------------
Entropy Maintenance Technician
Tao Chemical Company
--------------------------

http://www.compcomm.com/
Vicksburg, Mississippi US





Brian December 15th 03 06:28 AM

"KØHB" wrote in message ink.net...
"Brian" wrote


She is, more or less, an official ARRL spam-bot.
Wonder if she is an official bulletin station?


And you are, more or less, the official LHA junior-Unabasher. I want you to
be fully aware of your role in rrap, Brian. It goes like this: LHA is the
organ grinder, playing a song called "I Left My Heart in ADA, and Newington
Won't Give It Back". You are the little monkey in a bright red hat hopping
up and down and acting silly for our amusement.

With all best wishes for the recovery of your missing T5 logs,

de Hans, K0HB/4ID


Brakejob/4ID, the only problem with your little organ grinder/monkey
scenario is that is didn't play out here.

You smell like you've been ****ed on, so perhaps you've got some other
monkey scenario going on there. In any case, its none of my biddness
what you do in the privacy of your home so please stop trying to
entertain us with it here.

With all kind wished for a speedy recovery, my T5 logs are intact.
You're still not in them, so don't solicit for an unearned card.

Brian

Brian December 15th 03 06:41 AM

"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message igy.com...
"Brian" wrote in message
om...
"Dee D. Flint" wrote in message

igy.com...

It probably was no longer cost effective to sell it on newstands.

If the ARRL is making money (a no-no for a non-profit corp) then report

them
to the IRS. If they are not making money, then no matter how big they

are,
it is not about money since no one is making a profit.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


Un-friggin-believable.

Non-profits aren't about profit. They're about salaries.


If the salaries are too high, get on the board and get them reduced.

Dee D. Flint, N8UZE


Who said they were too high?

They have to balance their books somehow (to avoid the appearance of
profit), and the salary is the most convenient place to dump the
excess.

It's about your ignorance of what a non-profit really is.

Dwight Stewart December 15th 03 09:00 AM


"Dan/W4NTI" wrote:

You do realize that the ARRL has the
publication and distribution of QST
contracted out, don't you? You should
crab to them, not the league per se.



Of course. I wasn't complaining about not getting the magazine - only
explaining why I purchased the magazine at a book store.


Dwight Stewart (W5NET)

http://www.qsl.net/w5net/



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