"Lloyd" wrote in message
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You think I'm a newbie?

Is that the only point you're going to address? Anyway, it looks like I was
wrong about suspecting a newbie. You sure talk the talk, though.

snip

For example, the old Usenet dogma ignores the massive, cheap disk
storage which is available to everyone and attempts to prevent people
from posting either image files or html. In spite of high speed
internet access and large disk capacities, the old guard still behaves
as if they're protecting the disk storage of a VAX-11/785 with a 400
megabyte disk pack as accessed by users using 300 bps modems.

Pathetic.

Ummm...I seem to recall addressing those particular examples myself.

Similarly, certain styles of ASCII posting are politically correct
with the old timers, such as bottom posting. Have you ever looked at
the mess that results after three or four people have attempted to
quote previous posters?

The posts are usually illegible, because most of the bottom posters
don't bother to trim their quotes, and the posts become massively
convoluted and difficult to read. Line wrap errors, coupled with
repeated use of the "" quoting character, turn them into a mess. Run
on up to alt.flame if you want to see how unreadable bottom posting
can become.

And that's the norm for the great majority of bottom posts. I skip
them regularly, rather than trying to decipher them.

It's the norm because people don't adhere to a well accepted standard. If
people did, then we wouldn't be having this discussion. Hint, hint.

If you can't make your points in a top post, you probably haven't
developed the language skills necessary to make your points anyway.
Bottom posting is way overrated and is really a crutch. It should be
avoided.

I certainly didn't advocate bottom posting, and anybody who's been on Usenet
for a week can see just how messy posts can get when people don't snip
properly. That's a different subject entirely, even though you're trying to
claim that top posting will alleviate the problem. Surely that isn't your
reason for top posting? (I'm still waiting for that, by the way.) I also
don't agree with that bit about making your points in a top post. Sure, it's
do-able. That doesn't make it the best way. Interpersing comments is just
the best way to go for all of the reasons I've cited, against all of the
reasons that you haven't. You mileage obviously varies. But as I said
before, you're very much in the minority.

On Sun, 24 Oct 2004 00:07:57 GMT, Honus wrote a 104 line post
which eventually got around to saying:

See, that attribution should be at the top of the post, not in the middle of
it. You're just being obstinant.

You're correct that the netizens decide what's acceptable and what's
not,
and naturally some things will change. I don't believe that top posting
will
be one of those things. You're still very much in the minority. I also
sense
that you're a newbie. Welcome to Usenet.

Try to get along.

And don't think I didn't notice how many of my points you ignored by
snipping. You know...like why don't you allow your posts to be archived.
By the way...my posting history goes way back to dejanews as well. That can
be verified, as my posts are archived.